We next gen yo

It's like going from Red and Blue to Gold and Silver.

>>26932614
If I hadn't looked at anything pokemon in 5 years, and you told me "on the right is the newest, generation 7 game. The left is gen 4" i'd believe you.
#Progress

>>26932661
>left is gen 4

>>26932654
Still a very satisfying improvement. The major changes are in the overworld. I just hope the frame rate will be nice and clean.

>>26932676
come on man, hashtag progress makes it obvious enough

There were hardly any difference between gen 4-5 either and gen 1-2. In fact gen 4 literally recycled some of gen 3 sprites, just recolored them. Same with gen 5, they just added animations. And gen 5 overworld hardly looked any different from gen 4.

Besides, it's hard to make any drastic changes to 3D graphics. The world also looks a lot more detailed in gen 7 and people aren't chibi anymore.

no, its gen 6.5

>>26932698
>There were hardly any difference between gen 4-5
>>26932701

These are bait.

>>26932719
There really weren't. They pretty much changed the game UI and made some tweaks to the graphics, animations being the biggest thing. Just like in gen 7, UI changes and tweaks to graphics, new animations etc. Gen 6-7 are just as different as gen 4-5 were.

>>26932698
>There were hardly any difference between gen 4-5
I used to think this too. Go look at pictures side by side, because the differences are drastic. 5 looks so much more alive, particularly in the routes.

I played back through the series recently, and the jump is substantial.

>>26932760
>Gen 6-7 are just as different as gen 4-5 were.

no. Gen 5 the entire battle scene and spriting style is different. With SM you literally wouldn't be able to tell if it were a Gen 6 game or not just by looking at the top screen. They didn't change it any more than ORAS changed from XY.

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We next gen yo

Im so glad the circles are gone

think i like the circles compared to plain ugly ground with no features, no flowers or anything jesus

>>26932871
I guess I could manually add circles to the map textures, just for you. No animations however

We've been next gen since they announced Magearna.

>>26932782
If your just looking at the models no, but you can tell the backdrops are far more detailed.

>>26932614

It's not about battle.

It's about new Pokémon.

New Pokémon = new generation.

>>26932698
I honestly think Gen V looks worse. The awkward attempt at a middle ground between 3D and 2D failed hard.
Gen III looks better than either though.

They're 3D games released on the same system, they can only look so different

>>26932949
Gen 4 was 2D-like 3D.

This is all nice and dandy, but the only thing I really care is that they fix the frame rate.

>>26932915
I guess this mere pattern remains unbroken, but for what reason? OR/AS was a perfect title to convince they could be better and hold promises of generations and finish them properly.

>>26932789
I unironically thinks gen IV looks better than V.

>>26932915
Nope

>>26933114
You're unironically thinkings objectively wrong, but okay.

Real time rendered backgrounds when?

pre rendered is bullshit.

>>26933114
That's a fact. Gen 4 is better than 5.

>>26933123
Yes. Are you new or something?

>>26933134
It's a fact that what you're claiming is not a fact, prove me wrong :)))

>>26932698
Exactly what gen3 sprites did they recycle?

Watching teenagers argue about game design is so funny and sad at the same time

>>26933114
Me too. I miss sprites. It sucks we'll never get new games with sprites

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>>26933134
>Gen 4 is better than 5.

Well, at least those horrid circles are gone.

>>26932698
>In fact gen 4 literally recycled some of gen 3 sprites, just recolored them.
Ha.

No, gen 3 sprites are too small and ugly. Gen 3 backsprites did recycle many things from 2, though. And 4's sprites were pretty damn ugly at first, they didn't hit their stride until HGSS.

>>26932949
>The awkward attempt at a middle ground between 3D and 2D failed hard.
That was gen 4, dumbass.

>>26932701
A generation is a generation. You can't say it's only a half

Has the gameplay improved though? Do i still have to ev train or whatever the fuck to compete?

>>26932789
Groudon looks like its been trying to tell us something important for years

>>26932614

Nice to see a lot better effort in backgrounds and overall style

>>26932789

Jesus fucking Christ Machamp has back muscles on his back muscles

>>26934530
then dont compete casual

>>26934001
no

>>26933812
Compare Skarmory's gen 4 sprite to gen 3 mate. And that's not the only case.

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>>26932614
wew

>>26934916
man I really hope there's another digimon story game. Cyber Sleuth was fun, despite all the long ass text scenes.

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>>26933132
Now that I think about it
Fire Emblem could do it I don't see why pokemon cant either

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>>26934916
You can't compare console graphics to handheld. That's just an inherent fallacy.

>>26935025
Bottom 3 are PS Vita iirc

>>26933123
Yep. Stay mad, faggot.

>>26933812
Good HGSS sprites only apply to the first 251 mons with the exception of Dragonite, Houndoom and Mewtwo, which actually looked worse than in DPPT.

>>26934530
Still better than Gen V, which added literally nothing good to the gameplay

>>26935034
>bottom three are vita
>one is Monhun stories

>>26934916
I just want DQM: Joker 3 localized. That's all I ask Square Enix. I don't even need Terry's Wonderland HD or DW2 HD

>>26936175
It's not going to happen, Square hates DQ being in the west.

>>26935034
Digimon is the only Vita game there

>>26936235
I know, that's just what I would ask for in a perfect world. Ill eventually just have to emulate it and find an unfinished English patch 10 years down the road. Or I could learn to read Japanese, which I guess could be quicker

>>26933114

What the fuck? The sprites are of the same quality, just animated, slightly more pixellated, and bigger, with better shading and color.

>>26934565
>Gen 3
>Hey come on and listen, this is important
>Gen 4
>FUCKING LISTEN OR I'LL BREAK YOUR ARM
>Gen 5
>You know what, lets calm down here. You are going to listen.

>>26936301
The animation fucking sucks.

>>26934565

WOW, IT'S FUCKING NOTHING!

>>26932661
>#Progress
That's some cancerous shit.

>>26933535
The worst is the majority of the fandom accepts nonsense, I'll just watch from the side

>>26932654
But they didn't fix the colors in this one like Gold and Silver.

>>26934565
Fucking kekoken

>>26936536
Because there's nothing to fix.

>>26936543
But they're still so washed out.

>>26934916
Do we have fucking camera controls yet?

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>>26936550

>>26936550
And that's intentional

I just hope this holds a steady frame rate on all 3ds models and not just the new ones.

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>>26936550
The model colors are based on the official artworks

>>26936622
Drop those wishes now anon at the most it'll be a little better on N3DS.
OG 3DS won't cut it.

>>26936686
If it doesn't run well on my 3ds xl then I'll never buy another Nintendo game again. If those lazy chinks can't do this right they don't deserve customers.

>>26936673
>>26936599
>>26936596

Which don't look as nice.

>>26936712
Game Freak has nothing to do with Nintendo besides ownership of Pokemon though

>>26936712
Fun fact: the reason it runs like shit is because they made the models too good for the system it's on.

Also Nintendo =/= GF and if framedrops are what causes you to drop them then you better drop video games as a whole because it's a huge problem with games this generation.

>>26936536
Huh?

>>26936724
I disagree.

>>26936550
"Washed out" are actually the proper colors.

And they look far better.

>>26936724
agreed

>>26933114
I unironically think Gen III looks better than Gen V.

>>26936910
Well we're at an impasse of views then.

>>26936910
>>26937030
I propose a duel.

>>26936596
>Gengar
>Parasect
>Scolipede
>Vileplume
I can cherrypick too.

>>26937106
Cherrypick what exactly?

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>>26937106
>mfw gen 6 is still better

>>26937130
You know exactly what I meant.
Not all pokemon look like their artwork in the models. And that's just talking of the colors, don't get me started on the proportions.
Besides, basing the colors of the artwork and not the sprites was a mistake.

>>26937171
Have you seen their artwork anon?

>>26937193
Yes anon.

>>26937163
But they still look bad, anon.

>>26937163
That 3D Gengar looks pale as fuck, m8. His eyes are closer to pink than to red.

>>26937198
You clearly haven't because their models still look closer to their original artwork than the sprites do.

>>26937171
>basing their colors on what they truly look like instead of what they managed to look like is worse
Huh. Guess Golem has a cute cat face since the sprite had it, despite the artwork not having it.

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Remember when Gengar looked like an actual shadow?
Can't believe people think what we got now is better.

>>26937224
Nigga do you even shadows?

>>26937224
The eyes from the model are way better than from the sprite

>>26937252
The modern artwork is shit です.

>>26937252
What the fuck are you talking about? I was talking about the colors, not about sprite/model errors.
Besides, I don't know what you mean with "cat face".

>>26937271
God, he looks so shit here.
>making him predominantly black instead of purple
>eyes are the wrong color
>teeth outline is the same color as the purple

>>26937274
Do you?
>>26937271

>>26937279
However the sprite looks way better.

>>26937309
>a sprite that literally gets everything wrong
Gengar's eyes were never red, they were always pink.

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>>26937301
>GSC Gengar
>actually threatening
>looks like a shadow
>"god, so shit"

>>26937301
>making him predominantly black instead of purple
Because he's more shadowy that way anon.

>>26937332
>a sprite that literally gets everything wrong
And still manages to look better.
Again, basing the colors off the art and not keeping with the vibrant vivid colors of the sprites was a mistake.

>>26937341
Doesn't mean it's not shit plus there's a thousand other ways they could have done the whole shadow thing without wrecking the colors.
Hell, Mega Gengar does it better.

>>26937351
I disagree. The original colors are far better than the over saturated shit we got in gen 5.

>>26937352
>Doesn't mean it's not shit
But it's not.
>Mega Gengar does it better.
Agree, but one thing being good doesn't mean the other is automatically shit.

>>26937351
>basing the colors off the way the pokemon really looks and not keeping with the sprites that changed it was a mistake.

You're literally saying that making them look like the Pokemon is a mistake.

>>26937362
>mfw gengar can't decide which colors it has

>>26937352
But the colors look good.

>>26937369
>But it's not.
Look, if they can't get the point across without butchering the artist's vision then it's a shit interpretation of it.
On top of that it just looks generally unappealing because there's only about 4 different colors on there when the GBC could have done a whole lot more.

>>26937364
>The original colors are far better than the over saturated shit we got in gen 5.
Well, I don't think it's necessary to state the obvious at this point, but I disagree.
The full of life colors of gen5 are better than the pastel sad shit of the 3D models.
I guess the conversation has been reduced to a matter of different tastes/opinions now.

>>26937379
Learn to use "literally" and don't put words I didn't say on my mouth.

>>26937301
>the GBC doesn't have limitations

>>26937429
>implying limitations is an excuse when Gengar is literally one of the most simple sprites in the game

>>26937409
>more vibrant palette from a pastel colored style
>butchering
That's your opinion, not a fact.
And also an exaggeration.

>>26937409
>>26937462
>there's only about 4 different colors
Just a curiosity, all the gen2 sprites had only 2 colors plus black and white.
I don't know if it's due to memory limitations though.

>>26937419
>Learn to use "literally" and don't put words I didn't say on my mouth.
I don't see how I used the word wrong.
You're saying that the original look of the Pokemon was a mistake and that the inconsistent changes made over the years is what should have been.

You need to learn the difference between "putting words in someone's mouth" and extracting information because you literally can't interpret that any other way given the context of the conversation and the intent of the creator.

>>26933114
Gen IV is the absolute peak of the franchise, for me personally.

>>26937419
If you think the over saturated shit looks even remotely good, then I don't know what else to say other than your taste is dog shit.
I'm not even much of a fan of the 3D models, for reasons other than colour, but the original colours are far superior.

>>26937488
>all the gen2 sprites had only 2 colors plus black and white.
Not him but the max is 4 plus black and white but a lot if not all didn't go over 3.
They got pretty lazy with the sprites in GSC in all honesty.

>>26937498
>I don't see how I used the word wrong.
Well you did. Because at no point did I say that pokemon of some gen didn't look like Pokemon, just that the more vivid colors were a better option.
But you choose to modify the intent and meaning of my words, which is literally a strawman fallacy.

For example, if I were to play the same game, I could say that in this post >>26937379 you're "literally" implying that the pokemon before gen6 didn't look like pokemon.

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>>26937528
>Rock bottom of the franchise
>peak

>>26937558
>DP sold more than RS
>rock-bottom

>>26937554
You need to choose your words wisely anon
>Again, basing the colors off the art and not keeping with the vibrant vivid colors of the sprites was a mistake.
They're basing it off of the original look of the pokemon, or rather what they actually look like. You're saying this was a mistake.

Again there's no other way to interpret that sentence.

>But you choose to modify the intent and meaning of my words
The only one who's at fault of doing this is you for willfully ignoring your previous post and the intent.

>>26937534
>I don't know what else to say other than your taste is dog shit
Glad that the only thing you have left when someone just happens to have a different opinion is resorting to simple name calling.

>>26937538
>I'd rather have sequels that take place in Kanto
The sprites in GS but not C had to show properly on the GB and SGB in addition to the GBC.

>>26937602
wew copy-paste fail

>>26937580
>implying sales are everything when the game as a whole was worse with even features from RSE being downgraded heavily and riddled with gimmicks
>also heavy visual downgrades and even halved the fps all around until Gen 5 where they at least gave us back 60fps battles

Oh yeah and
>only 1mil sales over RSE on a system that had nearly double the users

>>26937585
>Again there's no other way to interpret that sentence.
Yes there is. You can just interpret what it says:
>the colors of the sprites looked better
But for some reason you're choosing to interpret it this way:
>they were better when they didn't look like pokemon
which has nothing to do with what I said, and using it to "attack my argument".
That is the very definition of a strawman fallacy.

>ignoring your previous post and the intent
I never intended for that to be the meaning in the first place, you were the one that gave that meaning out of nowhere anon.

>>26937662
>all these shitty opinions stated as facts

>>26937671
>contests being casualized is an opinion
>the BF having features removed is an opinion
>the game going from 60fps to 30 on a more powerful system is an opinion
>secret base battles and sharing being removed is an opinion

>RSE selling 16+ mil and DPPt selling 17 mil is an opinion
>the DS selling nearly 160mil units and the GBA selling nearly 81 mil is an opinion

Now I can say I've been to Egypt because I've seen denial.

>>26932949
>>26933114
Gen 5 looked better in motion though, the advantage of Gen 4 is that it looks better in static pictures because it's static sprites

>>26934916
What's the 4th game?

>>26937716
>contests being casualized is an opinion
They were changed. You can still play the old games with the old contests.
>the BF having features removed is an opinion
There was no important loss.
>the game going from 60fps to 30 on a more powerful system is an opinion
Still smooth.
>secret base battles and sharing being removed is an opinion
If I wanted Hoenn, I'd play it.
>RSE selling 16+ mil and DPPt selling 17 mil is an opinion
>the DS selling nearly 160mil units and the GBA selling nearly 81 mil is an opinion
I said RS and DP, not E and Pt, which barely sold anything.

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>>26937558
He said Gen IV not Gen III

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>>26937558
>XY better than Platinum

>>26937764
>gen III was bad
Hello deserter.

>>26937667
None of what you've put in your post even addresses the one in question and to make things worse you're changing the intent of your own words just to gain some leverage.
This is just pathetic at this point.

>That is the very definition of a strawman fallacy.
See it would be a strawman if you literally didn't refer to the original coloration as a mistake and I was trying to make it seem like you did in fact do that but again we have a post of you doing just that.

Please learn what a strawman is before you accuse people.

>>26932661
You are a retard

>>26937744
Monster Hunter spnoff

>>26937749
>You can still play the old games with the old contests.
How does that change the fact that the contests were made significantly easier and fluffed up with DDR and dress up gimmicks?
When features are advertised people generally look for an improvement in them.

>There was no important loss.
Except for, you know, the areas people liked and the uniqueness to it. It's clear you weren't there for the mass disapointment when it was revealed to have the name but less content.

>Still smooth
Clear denial.

>If I wanted Hoenn, I'd play it.
So what's wrong with Sinnoh having it too? Shit, on an online system it should have been expected rather than thrown away, especially given how much of the game was just copy and pasted from RSE. It doesn't have the rehaul excuse to go on.
>I said RS and DP, not E and Pt, which barely sold anything.
If it makes you feel better those are only the sales for RS and DP. At this point I go RSE and DPPt out of habit so the point still stands.

>>26937830
>It's clear you weren't there for the mass disapointment
>caring about the Pokémon fandom and its over-the-line autism

>>26937782
???
Yes, I didn't said the original coloration was a mistake, that makes no sense. How can it be a mistake if it's the original?
I said, literally, that it would have been a better idea (in my opinion) to use the vibrant colors of the sprites for the models, and that doing otherwise was the mistake.

But as I explained three times, in this post >>26937379 you interpreted something completely unrelated by twisting the meaning. And you have been defending that strawman since then.
You're just saying I'm the one changing my words but you don't give any explanations unlike me and all just did was act all condescending.
I did not modify my intent at any moment, if not point how and where. And learn yourself what a strawman is, although you probably know it very well already since you're using it so well.
I agree on something though, this is pathetic.

>>26937871
>completely unrelated
Are you seriously saying it's unrelated when it's the post that started this argument to begin with?

Once again, pick your words carefully if you want to avoid this pitiful damage control.

>>26937905
Why did gen 2 get a straight detail downgrade on the overworld?
I mean, look at the buildings in gen 1 compared to 2.

>>26937776
>anyone that dislikes gen III lost interest in Pokemon and jumped ship when pokemania finally died
I didn't lose interest but everyone around me sure as hell did.

>>26937934
Huh? Johto looks different from Kanto, which looks like Red and Green in Gold and Silver.

>>26937934
shit pic is shit
go play the game

>>26937904
>Are you seriously saying it's unrelated when it's the post that started this argument to begin with?
Aaaaaand you do it again. It's obvious that with "unrelated" I was referring to your original strawman in your first post.
But you're choosing to take that "completely unrelated" like I'm referring to the whole argument itself.

Yep, you do know very well what you're doing. And I must say you're quite good at strawmans, although this last one was too obvious.
But that last line clearly shows that you're just having some fun with me. 6/10 you fooled me.
Welp, serves me right for answering with my most honest intentions to a post with a strawman.

>>26937830
Well to be fair the took out the best (pyramid) and worst battle frontier facilities. Battle Arena (Literally the Tower) Battle Area (fucking RNG if you can attack even with the best nature), and Battle Dome

>>26938005
>It's obvious that with "unrelated" I was referring to your original strawman in your first post.
>strawman
Stop using that word like you know what it means anon because you've used it in the wrong way several times already.

In any case, there was no misinterpretation there. You literally said that making the Pokemon more resemble their original work was a mistake

>>26932614
This whole thread is autism

Hoennfags and Kalosfags the 2 worst people here

>>26938086
>Battle Arena (Literally the Tower)
You what?
Have you ever played it?

>>26938112
Well most of it is getting 3HKO's it's not a bad concept but it mostly boils down to just killing them/doing the most damage

>inv4 that's all of them

>>26938098
>you've used it in the wrong way several times already
No, I did not. I used it pretty well in fact. Stop denying it anon.
>You literally said that making the Pokemon more resemble their original work was a mistake
In the color department. And yes, that's what I said.
Finally! You've finally chosen to take what I meant from the beginning. Thank you.

>>26937362
people cried about black jynx so game freak also changed Gengar from black to purple to avoid future crybabies.

>>26932661
>hashtags on le 4chinchin

That's it, I'm done. I've hang around this board in its worst times, like the long drought of 2011 and 2015, and I know that every new gen season we get swamped with newfags and summerfags looking for leaks that instead to lurk start forcing memes thinking that's really the way people communicate here, but that's it, I'm done. DONE. Fucking hashtag on vp I'm too old for this shit.

>>26938136
>I used it pretty well in fact. Stop denying it anon.
You didn't, at all.
If you had used it in the correct sense it would imply that I'm misinterpreting something about your argument and the post in question when you know for a fact that's not the case here.

>In the color department. And yes, that's what I said.
And is that not a key part of a Pokemon's design?
Also thanks for admitting that the first post I made wasn't a strawman.

>>26938160
Gengar wouldn't have been a problem because he doesn't have the lips to go with it.
Anyway Gengar was never black to begin with.

>>26935913
That's obviously an upscale shot though, every 3DS picture there should be pixelated because of the low resolution. I don't know why they had to bullshot that when the game still blow SM away

>>26938225
>That's obviously an upscale shot though
That wasn't the point.
The anon said the last three were all Vita shots. They aren't.
In fact I think the only one that is a Vita game is digimon.

>>26938182
>You didn't, at all.
Yes I did. I explained several times over the course of all this conversation what was your exact strawman.
Your post here >>26937379 says that I meant
>you're literally saying that making them look like Pokemon is a mistake
However, as you said more recently, what I really meant was
>giving them the original colors was a mistake
So thank you for admitting that your first post was, indeed, a strawman.

Also, remember that time I told you to point out where and how did I change the meaning of my words? Why didn't you?
Let me answer that for you: because you were the one changing it.

>And is that not a key part of a Pokemon's design?
I slight color palette change? If it's for the better I don't see what the problem is.

>>26938273
>However, as you said more recently, what I really meant was
>>giving them the original colors was a mistake
So what you're saying is that you changed the intent of your post after the post was made to save face. How does that change anything?
Also stop calling someone out strawmanning when you're doing it yourself.
For one my original post was
>You're literally saying that making them look like the Pokemon is a mistake
Rather than
>>you're literally saying that making them look like Pokemon is a mistake
Implying that after changing the colors they no longer look like pokemon as a whole when that was never said by anyone in this thread. And yes, what you're doing is a strawman despite the small change because it's still misrepresenting the post at hand.

And again the color is a very important aspect of a pokemon's design, if those were the colors it started out with it should have stayed like that when the games gained color.

> If it's for the better I don't see what the problem is
The problem is that it's making the designs as a whole worse, for starters there's the inconsistencies between games.
Secondly there's the fact that its not accurate to the artist's original design, and I'll say it again since you don't seem to get it, color is important to the Pokemon's design.
And lastly, they're way too over-saturated to the point where it just looks gaudy.

I hope you don't try responding to this because this pathetic show of yours has gone on long enough at this point you're just grasping at straws.
Here's a tip, you're anonymous no one is going to care or even know you lost an internet argument against someone.

>>26938247
I know, I'm just wondering why the person who originally posted the screenshot felt the need to pick out Vita games/bullshots when the games already have way better graphics.

>>26938465
I think the image came from /v/ originally so I think that should give you a picture of why

>>26938460
>So what you're saying is that you changed the intent of your post after the post was made to save face
I did not change the intent. That was what I always meant, that giving them the original colors was a mistake.
You keep saying that I changed my intent but you refuse to point how and where, and I'm sorry if I've made a mistake that made you understand something else, but that is honestly all I meant.

>For one my original post was
>>You're literally saying that making them look like the Pokemon is a mistake
It still not what I said and implies something different of my original intent (the color change), if not, why bothering posting just the same I said but with other words?

>The problem is that it's making the designs as a whole worse
Our disagreement is that, what you may call an inconsistency, I call it an improvement.
>color is important to the Pokemon's design
Agree but I don't see why that means that they have to stick to a washed out color palette on the games instead of a changing to a slightly different one that could fit better.
>they're way too over-saturated to the point where it just looks gaudy
Your opinion.

>this pathetic show of yours has gone on long enough at this point you're just grasping at straws
>no one is going to care or even know you lost an internet argument against someone
I'm sorry that this is what you think. It's not a matter of winning or losing, I'm just having a conversation where I disagree with someone and I don't see why I shouldn't express my own opinions on the matter.
By the way, I hope you realize that last line can be applied to you as well, and that that "no one is going to care or even know you lost an internet argument" bit implying that there's zero possibility you can be wrong sounds extremely obnoxious.

>>26937905
>S/M still look 6th gen
God damn what we're GF thinking when they were planning S/M having it be 7th gen

>>26936536
best post in thread
>>26936550
worst post in thread

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>>26938666
No, Satan. There's a reason I'm making this goddamn ROM hack.

>>26932685
We have seen footage of Lunala using its signature move, which caused framerate drops. It will be just as bad as Gen 6.

>https://youtu.be/XW14HO7C1Dg?t=48s

Game Freak has no incentive to make efforts.

>>26938700
Of course they don't, as 7th gen is gonna be just S/M and nothing else
They wasted a "whole new gen" on two goddamn games and then they're moving to whatever the next handheld is with 8th gen
Why would they put effort into anything but the games after S/M at this point?

>>26938731
This argument is flawed because Game Freak will not put effort in the games following Sun and Moon. They know those extra bits will not make them more money.

>>26938583
>That was what I always meant, that giving them the original colors was a mistake.
In other words making them look like the original pokemon as stated here because or the last time, color is an important aspect of the design and changing it is altering what the pokemon looks like. This shouldn't be hard for you to understand.
This is why I said pick your words carefully.

>It still not what I said and implies something different of my original intent
See above.

>Our disagreement is that, what you may call an inconsistency, I call it an improvement.
Look at the pokemon sprites over the ages anon, they've all been various different shades, hues and colors over the years take Slowpoke for example.
It's a huge mass of inconsistencies and I for one prefer when my favourites keep their original color and aren't changed to something I dislike.

> I don't see why that means that they have to stick to a washed out color palette
Because that color is the color of the Pokemon, the original chosen for it when it was created.
>Your opinion.
I'd give you a whole explanation as to why over saturation is bad especially with 3D games of this variety but in all honesty it's 1am and I truly can't be bothered and just want to play some Soulcalibur.

> I'm just having a conversation
This has long since passed the point of a simple conversation because it should have been over two or so posts in when you realised your mistake and said something along the lines of "Yeah but I like it when they're like this". At this point it's about you getting the last word in.

>>26938743
>those extra bits
Since when was a new gen an extra bit?

>>26938700
It's not that they don't want to make an effort it's that they're reaching a plateau like most games this and last gen which is why they're slowing down.

>>26938775
I'm talking about framerate issues. Don't jump in a discussion if you can't figure out context by yourself. Kindly shut the fuck up.

>>26938776
There are millions of ways to improve XY and ORAS and it's impossible that they have plateau'd at the best they can do to make a quality SM release and the ones after.

>>26938761
>when you realised your mistake
Dude, c'mon, why do you have to act condescending? No need for that shit.

Ok, so we finally have stopped arguing over arguing (mostly) and we've come down to a simple argument of "diferent opinions", etc.

Can we just agree to disagree? It's 2am here and I've got a severe headache.
You can even call my tastes pure shit if you want.

>>26938817
>it's impossible that they have plateau'd
You do realise that the "reaching" part of my post is important right?
And unlike western games there's still a style to preserve.

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>>26938817
Yeah no I was talking about effort and why they wouldn't put any effort into S/M BECAUSE it's gonna be short as fuck, just how the "They're not putting effort into game for X gen platform when they're probably developing for X+ platform, you know, the next gen platform" meme goes

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>>26932661
>#Progress

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>>26934565

>>26938700
The game hasn't even been released yet. Bitch about the designs all you want (They seem aight though), but it's a little early to complain about performance based on a demo in the very first trailer released.

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>>26937301
>the single best GSC sprite looks like shit

I will send you to the fucking hospital.

I will gather my nigger friends and we will find your house and we will wait until you walk outside alone and fucking pile on you.

>>26938932
Why are there so many technologically impaired people on this board
I swear that less than a percent of posters have A9LH and those who do used more than two hours on it
I feel alone knowing why the fuck S/M still has problems with framerate, even with multiple people pointing out that the 3DS can't properly handle all these high as shit poly models while running on this poorly optimized 6th gen engine

>>26936449
omg I hashtagged Cramp earlier just being a douche cause I thought it was funny. I didn't realize it would catch on. I feel so guilty. Sorry, lol.

#regrets #sorry #roflcopter

>>26938961
>I will gather my nigger friends
And how will they get here huh?
Niggers ain't got a paying job to pay for a flight.

GSC was a fucking turd game.

>>26936596
Where did Gen 5 models come from?

>>26939006
Pokedex 3D Pro I assume.

>>26937538
>max is 4 plus black and white

That's factually wrong. Every Gen 2 sprite has black and two colors, along with a "white". All the palette data, for every single Pokémon and trainer, only has two colors, and those are put on its sprite when it loads along with black, which is on every sprite to save space, since they only have to store two colors per sprite. The "white" is actually just the transparent layer.

There are GBC games that use special tricks to add more colors, by overlaying multiple sprites to appear as one sprite, but the battle sprites in the Game Boy games are actually background tiles, so something like that wouldn't work without move animation conflicts, since those are all sprites.

>>26938988
Then I'll make new nigger friends once I'm near you're house and then we'll do the rest of my post, you fucking Kalosperm.

>>26937362
Shiny Gen III Gengar should have been the default color.

>>26937409
>butchering the artist's vision

I bet you think Final Fantasy characters should look like the Amano artwork.

>>26939034
>Every Gen 2 sprite has black and two colors
Not him but you're going by pokemon. At most they had about 3 colors at a time.

Look on some of the more detailed GBC games and you could see they had a lot more range to work with.

>>26939133
Can you give me some examples of Game Boy JRPGs with better sprites? Sincerely asking, since games like Shantae have an entirely different method of displaying its graphics, while JRPGs are more likely to use the backgrounds for sprites. The only non-Pokémon RPGs I've played on the Game Boy were black and white games.

>>26939096
If they could translate well?
Yeah why not.

It would be a nice change from the knockoff FF7 crap Square's shovelling out nowadays.

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>>26939168
Alright then. This is our (male) protagonist for Final Fantasy V.

>>26939184
Still better than the boy band.

>>26936799
Yeah they made the 3DS models high res enough that the 3DS can barely handle them so that they can be reused for at least a couple more gens on future platforms without needing to redo them.

>>26937381
Do an image search for "gengar". Nearly every image in the top row is a different shade of purple.

>>26932614
Sun and moon backround looks way more detailed than in x and y

>>26939024
Pokedex 3D pro uses the gen 6 models, but without the color filter.

>>26932661
Daily reminder that you can merrily report any post that clearly violates rule 6

>>26932614
Thank god those circles are finally gone. Those were stupid as hell in XY.