/pmdg/ - Pokémon Mystery Dungeon General

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>that pic

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>>26886796
go away i've seen pics and proof that it's there

>>26886906
I recognize that background in that anon's pic from months back anywhere, that's ZIS

>>26887006
do not bully the woops

>>26887006
I have a screenshot that I thought was proof of the tight belt existing but it was actually the goggle specs so welp

>>26887006
I'm gonna prove you wrong eventually

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First mystery dungeon title I play, I quit after around 4hours. Plot is mentioned as a strong point of this game, and I could feel that it was actually going somewhere (which is something not usually expected in a pokemon title) but the game mechanics were just a huge turn off.
Terrible grinding, combat is uninteresting and flat, moving through randomly created dungeons is boring as hell (dont do the random generated thing again. Wasnt .hack enough as a lesson??). Just go trough dungeons, enemies will swarm you, use same moves again and again, rinse and repeat. The dashing is horrible (while does your character stop all the time you entered a new area?) and the controls are painful (kept coming up the wrong menu out because how buttons are layed).
Art direction is ok, music is actually GREAT, graphics are passable.
If this is supposed to be the best Pokemon Mystery Dungeon title, dont bother playing the series. Stick to the original games(which are awesome).

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>>26888242
It's a copypasta of a random Metacritic review, don't bother.

>>26888270
it's one of those guys huh

How do you like your evolution, senpais? (Let's assume you do evolve even if you don't)

RT/Explorers/Super
>locked until epilogue completion for all mons
>have to travel to a spot to actually evolve

Gates
>all but player/partner can evolve during story
>can evolve mid-dungeon

I don't know guys, is there any downside to the Gates method? Would you evolve mid-story if you could?

>>26888373
Shit man, if there's ever a time for experimentation, it's in spinoffs. I'm all for making evolution reversible, especially in these games where it has little to no impact on stats.

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>get to post game
>first post-game dungeon you're all alone
>Hmm, I'd better check a walkthrough to see what they recommend for strategy
>Recommended Level: 40+
>I'm Level 27

>>26888494
Most people finish the game at a similar or lower level than you, you'll be fine. Just bring wands if you're scared.

Is that the GameFAQs guide you're looking at? I've seen it cause panic before.

>>26888534
Yes. Is the fucker that wrote it wrong? Do I have to threaten his family?

>>26888560
I wouldn't say wrong, but he probably tried brute-forcing it with a Pokémon that's less-than-great offensively and thought he had to grind to beat it.

To be fair, certain wands just make you avoid fights altogether so he probably wasn't accounting for people using/abusing those.

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>spent countless hours trying to get a Pidgey in Howling Forest to no avail
>come post-game attempt
>fucking recruit the very first 2 I see

>>26889020
Congratulations, anon. It's better than nothing.

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>mfw i die to screech seviper in northern range
is there a point where it stops being a threat
because honestly, it might just be easier to run a soundproof for keks now when i think about it

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>>26888373
>mfw Adventure Squad introduced enemy evolution, but was less sane when it came to allowing it
>also that other feeling when evolution did matter because it could change size, which affected the tower mechanic

>>26890482
>is there a point where it stops being a threat
even at max level with like 200 defense screech will never not fuck your shit

>play adventure squad
>have reviver seeds
>get killed by enemy
>get revived
>enemy still evolves
WHO ALLOWED THAT

>>26890535
guess what happens in super

>>26890551
>be anon
>have a friend
>friend throws iron thorn at onix
>it evolves
It's pretty unique, but...

wow

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>>26888270
>moving through randomly created dungeons is boring as hell
the bait.
IT'S STRONG WITH THIS ONE

>>26890482
Screech was made to fuck you over at any time and any level. That's why certain mons such as Seviper and infamously Kecleon have it.

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>>26887964
It's fine if you don't like it.
It's still a great game for many others

I know that anon was bait, but for reference, here's how to get Tight Belt

Rescue Team: Appears 7.69% of the time in walls of Far-off Sea (buried items are 33th floor onwards), ABOUT 0.1853565% of the time on Far-off Sea's floors (all 75, chances vary depending on how far are you in), 8.33% of the time in Kecleon Shops at Purity Forest 90-98F (which appear 8% of the time on these, effectively making it a 0.664% chance), 0.091408% of the time in the Purity Forest (about 3 times as common on 20th floor) and about 0.198909% of the time in Marvelous Sea and Fantasy Strait (both of which are Wonder Mail dungeons).
Explorers: Well, this is a funny thing. You see, Zero Isle South has special kecleon shops on 90-99F that have them; 95F has 50% rate but all other 9 have 8%. This is the only place in Explorers with a Tight Belt. The funny thing? It sells Tight Belts there only in Time (16.66% per shop) and Sky (8.33% per shop). In Darkness, the equivalent item seems to be Goggle Specs.
Adventure Squad: *shrug* Haven't got far enough to know where you get these.
Gates: Hunger? What is that?
Super: rip held items ;_;

Is there any real reason to evolve in any of these games, besides preferring the designs of evolved mons? Seems like I can cap stats with anyone, and in Super, there's no way for me to replace the unevolved forms after they evolve.

>>26893357
I can't remember how relevant it is in Explorers, but in Rescue Team you could only get most if not all second- and third-stage Pokémon via evolution. I think Explorers just game them really low recruitment rates instead of locking them off entirely, same with Gates.

>>26893379
Never mind, that's not the case at all. Literally two seconds of research would have stopped me from making that post.

>nuzleaf is actually a bad guy

Well, shit.

Will he be redeemed?

>>26893357
no, i have a wooper with 255 across the board

>>26893357
Movepool

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Should I buy Explorers of Sky or Blue Rescue Team?

And why is Blue a DS game but not Red? Are they any different?

>>26895372
I found Explorers of Sky to be the better of the two, but go back to Rescue Team eventually.

Blue and Red have some version-exclusive mons like the main games (but only like four) and the soundtracks are a little different IIRC.

>>26895372
EoS for story, BRT for post-game exploration. Take your pick.

Not sure why they did that with RT (guess to see which system people would buy? idk). They differ in certain mons being absent/available, but with a wonder mail code you can easily get them. So not much of a difference.

>>26895372
Blue and Red are the same game, just different versions for different devices.
If you feel the need to eventually play all the mystery dudgeon games, you should probably play rescue team first since it might be a bit hard to go back to if you play explorers first.
I think Sky is the better game though, and the games don't really have any direct ties to each other plot wise, so not playing the previous titles won't really affect your enjoyment of the game any.

I don't mind Carracosta dad, I think he's good, but I rather have a Archeops dad

>>26895791
>the very first original Japanese BRT version has a bug that deletes the save of the game inserted in slot-1 if it's not RRT
Whoa, really? Shit, that's a pretty dangerous bug.

Is there any other strange bugs these games have, other than what Bulbapedia notes, the sprite glitch and transforming into an item game over?

>>26895971
>transforming into an item game over
that's no but

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>>26897453
FUCK

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i'm thinking about picking sky back up only this time i'll do some more ZIS runs for my guide. Only problem is, to take pics better, i'll have to recruit everything again.

Why does PSMD feel so slow at the start then feel so rushed near the end?

The game didn't really leave a big impact because of all the TWISTS and plots being dumped on me.

>>26899651
>tutorials at the beginning
>the gauntlet of dungeons at the end lasts for what feels like a third of the story

At least space some of it out

>>26899584
If you have CFW, you could use this version of FBI to dump your save and play it on an emulator to get high quality images, or do the reverse if you want custom starters on your cartridge.
https://gbatemp.net/threads/release-fbi-open-source-cia-installer.386433/page-139#post-6417614

What should I use my Gold Bars for?

>>26899818
Vitamins.

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>modding songs into Smash
>decide I'll get some PMD in there
>play this on accident https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xT3kQKtKqrE
>get all choked up just thinking about PMD Sky as a game
What the fuck, /pmdg/. I love it so much.

>>26900273
Yeah, I tried to copy my save over to a computer, and it worked fine. I still don't know about the other way around, since I think exulated saves are twice the size, so I changed starters through save editing.

>>26900335
It seems DesMuMe has a minimum file size for its .sav files or something and so Sky's just has 128KB of filler at the end. You could likely remove all that with a hex editor and be good to go.

What are some names for a cute eevee partner?

>>26901073
>nickname partner
>Hey, Bidoof and Leon!
Always seemed really weird to me. Also, wouldn't it be better to go with Hero Eevee? Run Away is a huge pain if it's on anyone but the lead character.

>>26899779
i can't hack my 3ds right now so i gotta do it the hard way

Do you evolve your starters, /pmdg/?

>>26903976
Nope, the only time i ever did was when i had a Mareep partner.

>>26903976
Every time I have I've come to regret it.

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It's music time.

Post your favorite Mystery Dungeon soundtracks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9oPdT1aX58

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>>26904200
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX4b37e3Cqg

If I bring another pokemon besides my starters, the exp is shared, right?

If so, is there any reason to ever bring another pokemon?

>>26904200
Narrowing things down is hard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xn59hsssENY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIY8aKg4sOw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvCQyiuhFHs

>>26904724
Everyone gets the full amount, it's not divided or anything.

>>26903976
Always, never regretted it. Have to check if I don't miss moves first, though.

>Salamence tanks 4 Blast Seeds
>recruit him
>82 HP
Fair.

>>26906065
it's like when you recruit any legendary, they lose hundreds of HP

>>26903976
Yes, only regretted it slightly in RT (not enough to reset tho), never regretted in any of the other games.

>>26903976
Why wouldn't you?

>>26906945
>no stat increase
>pre-evos are cuter
>lose special animations

Chespin's moveset is already perfect, why would i need to evolve it?

>>26907013
Because pre-evos aren't real pokemon.

>>26907144
This.

>>26904765
Until PSMD I never thought a more orchestral OST would have fit into PMD so damn well
Better hardware helps, I guess

>>26907370
Indeed.

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After a long break, it's time to return to the game.

First thing's first, we're making Drifblim the deadliest motherfucker on earth, while recruiting some sacrif-i mean pokemon that'll go to ZIS

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>>26908519
Lucked out by recruiting a fucking Salamence from a simple Crystal Cave mission. That's one more victim for the list.

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>>26904200
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4S4WVWoxwaU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKKJ72i9QeU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAudIPHHqYs

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>>26908519
Oh boy, time for Wooper's Bizarre Adventure Part 4: Drifblim is Unbeatable.

>>26908685
I want to see one of those stats break 300. I think it can be done.

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>entered Buried Relic for the 3rd time
>find Mew on floor 56; doesn't join
>can't escape due to sticky trap; last cleanse orb is also gunked up alongside throwing items
>move on through the floors and pray for a miracle escape
>floor 80; Mew spawned again; joined the team and warped us out
>miracle was answered

Should I take 2 low leveled Pidgeys with me through the Stormy Sea? I'm going to recruit Kyogre next and I might as well level up some mons while I'm there so I can evolve them once I'm out.

>>26908726
>two mew spawns
you motherfucker

Take the pidgeys, but SEND ONE HOME before you fight Kyogre. If you have 3 pokemon, it won't join

>>26908746
It surprised me too, and Bulbapedia mentioned it was possible (I didn't even have the Friend Bow yet; I was hoping it'd spawn again too). I got super lucky.

Shit, I forgot about the size. I'll keep that in mind (hopefully I can protect them long enough to reach that point and dismiss them).

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I lied.

I'm getting that motherfucking Tight Belt if it kills me.

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>>26909084
Using Explosion means going to 1/4th my health, to deal 160 damage to everything around me, because I explode twice. Bad idea? Absolutely, but it's good to have a last resort so I'm hanging onto this.

>>26909164
Just remember to not explode in a shop

Change of plans, it's a little late and i'll pick up the run tomorrow.

>>26909891
I don't even plan on using the move because of how much it destroys my HP

>>26909960
Have you tried Mightyena? I assume not since it's not listed, but I think it might be good.

>>26910186
I haven't.

Honestly it may have been a bad idea to jump into ZIS so soon after coming back from a break.

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What do you guys want to see in the next PMD besides your favorite pokemon as a starter? SMD hit almost every mark for me, but it really could've used the random quest system from previous games.

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>>26914138

>>26914155
But mareep was a starter in ithe wiiware games

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>>26914138

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>>26914138
>What do you guys want to see in the next PMD besides your favorite pokemon as a starter?
>Tfw can only think of my favourites
This wasn't supposed to be so hard

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So, how long until we get a MD with the S/M Pokemon?

I can wait, I'm still playing Sky and haven't even started SMD.

>>26914792
Oh wait. FEATURES besides just adding to the roster. My bad.

More customization, like being able to change the scarves you wear or the inside of your base.
An online rescue system would be pretty neat too.

>>26915890
Probably 8-12 months after

>>26915890
A year or two from now

I'm going to marry the chief

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>>26918658

>>26914138
Last thread there was the idea of giving dungeons more gimmicks like reverse type match-ups and randomly lowered stats, and possibly implementing them like the V-Wave or Mysteriosity from Gates.

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Come save me. 9F Revelation Mountain. I just wanna beat the game, dammit.

>>26923993
On my way. Just sit tight!

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>>26924071
>>26923993
Yep yep

>>26914138
Bandanas that don't go away forever postgame

I liked being twinsies with Chespin

>recruit all these cool mons
>half the story dungeons force hero+partner+plot character
I only remember this ever happening once in RT, where you and your partner have to flee and meet Absol, but the rest was fine with letting you use whoever. Are Gates and Super better with letting you use different mons?

>>26924541
Not really? Super lets you use anyone outside of story missions, but it actually works pretty badly because after a few jobs you have no reason to use your shitty underleveled player/partner outside of those story missions.

>>26924751
>no reason to use your shitty underleveled player/partner
>no reason
>shitty
What, did you pick Chikorita or Riolu something? Most player/partner combos are great throughout the game no matter their level.

>>26924811
Not the Anon, but I picked Riolu and had no problems. Extremely better than my first runthrough

>>26924938
Oh really? I just heard Riolu was shit-tier at some point near release. I've never actually tested it. I might go through the game with it some time.

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>>26924993
I personally had no problem with Riolu.
Keep Counter until you learn Reversal. It's his best move, especially against mons who you can't fight due to typing. Then once you learn Reversal it's your choice to keep it or trade it for that
Even though I say it's his best move, do not interpret that his movepool is bad. Both Force Palm and QA are going to be the moves you'll use the most, especially Force Palm doe to it's stun. The same with Feint as well.
The Raisin why Counter is good is because, like said above, you can use it against mons who any other moves do nothing to. Including Ghosts. So as long as an enemy uses a physical move, regardless of the mons type you will counter it.
It also never misses. So a move you counter will not miss. You will counter that move successfully every time

Counter is also really broken in that regard because it applies to multi-hit moves as well. So, say an enemy mon used Fury attack on you. As long as you survive it (key word), you will counter every hit. Thus Counter can become you broken multi-hit move
Now, once you learn Reversal, here's where Riolu's whole "Companion shield" goes into full. And where you choose between being a Cross Counter Riolu or a Juggernaut Riolu
The main raisin to trade Counter for Reversal is sheer damage. Counter works on PA and with counter any PA and deal the same damage back
Reversal on the other hand scales on how much health you have. The less health you have, the more damage it will do. It doesn't matter if an enemy brings you down low or you messed up and stepped on a Blast Trap. The less health, the more damage

This is your highest hitting move

Once you evolve into Lucario, and I recommend evolving, then you get the meaty stuff. Aura Sphere, Bone Rush, Dragon Pulse, CC, Extreme Speed, learnable moves like Dual Chop, Low Kick, Thunder, Ice, Drain, and Power-Up Punch to name a few.
Riolu's not bad. Just play him as a physical shield until you evolve and you'll be fine

How do I farm Reviver Seeds for the graduation exam? Loudred won't let me do the Sentry minigame.

>>26925267
It's reason, anon, not raisin. Stop mobile posting.

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>>26925267
By the by, Cross Counter Riolu and Juggernaut Riolu are just something I made up

Cross Counter Riolu/Lucario is where you keep and have both Counter and Reversal. This is an extremely defensive/offensive choice due to the way you can combo it effectively
As stated above, Counter counters all physical moves. But you are still hit by that move regardless, thus what I mean by "as long as you survive it" with Fury Attack. COUNTER DOES NOT MAKE YOU IMMUNE TO ATTACKS
But, with having both Reversal AND Counter, this isn't a problem. If you take too much damage from, say, Fury Attack. You countered all five consecutive hits but the enemy mon is still standing and you're left with 5HP. This is not a problem because Reversal scales with your health, as stated above.
Thus, use Reversal because now it's your strongest move.

Juggernaut Riolu/Lucario (Now renaming Bezerker Riolu/Lucario) is just full damage, I.E scrapping Counter for Reversal
Now you have three move slots free instead of two, and you can just make those damage dealing moves. Having Aura Sphere when you evolve is a must for its damage, its range, and because it doesn't miss. The rest are up to you
With this, you are damage. Raw damage. You dish out raw damage without a care for getting hit. If you take a lot of damage, it's no problem, because that just makes Reversal stronger. This is what I use

Move combo's are entirely up to you. The raisining behind this is because it's entirely preference. This is mostly just to give you a heads up on what, to me, are his best moves and helpful for lvling until evolution

>>26925392
Who said I was mobile posting?

>>26925267
>>26925429
>All that shit
I just taught the nigga focus blast lmao

>>26925373
Recycle items for them, do Dojo runs to refresh the shops.

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>>26914138
Yeah, SMD is pretty great, my favorite in the series. Here's what I want in the next game:
-More starters(all the starters from RT and Sky, with a few extras). I don't care if the portrait or animation quality suffers, I just want something more than "starters+mascots". I don't know how the personality test would work, but I wouldn't miss it if they got rid of it. I know the test has a lot of fans so they'd probably find some way to make it work.
-Random missions in addition to the Connection Orb, as well as normal recruiting. I don't like how I can only get 1 of each mon and how evolving anyone basically ruins your save.
-More of a focus on characters rather than tweests. By the end of Explorers, I felt close to the partner and Grovyle. In Super, the only character I cared about was the partner, and only a little bit.
-Balance. I want to be able to fight enemies on my own. Nerf wands, nerf emeras, nerf guest members, don't let me recruit a goddamned level 50 Salamence at the start of the game. Then the enemy levels can come back down and I can have a fair fight rather than a special effect spam-fest.
-Don't let me boost to 255 so easily. In Super, ranking up gives you a billion gold bars, and if you spend them all on vitamins you become an untouchable god of death. Sky has a similar problem with gummis but at least gummis are rare.
-More variety in dungeons. Take a look at Shiren. There are only 30 floors(in the main game), but it covers a lot of ground(premade maps, an outdoor map, the trial floors with loads of traps). Each floor has a unique set of enemies with interesting effects. It's a bit harder to make the enemies interesting in Pokemon, but I'd love to see some weird dungeon gimmicks.
Can't think of anything else. It's a good game.
If they decide to make the next game smaller in scale, I'd actually like to see a PMD/Shiren crossover. It sounds kind of stupid but I think it could work.

>>26925373
>he didn't buy seeds from Kecleon every chance he got even if it nearly bankrupted him
Helps every once in a while to play like a crazy person.

Recycle/mission rewards are really your best options.

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>>26925373

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>>26925525
>That moment in Super where you become a bad enough guy to steal from the Kecleon

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>>26925546
>realize I have a pair of Minimize users, a pure seed, and a switcher wand
>mfw making the big bucks for the first time

>>26925546
>that moment when you eat the pure seed that kecleon is selling

>>26925546
>that moment when you become a bad enough dude to steal without items helping

>>26925546
>That moment when you learn how Kecleon's ability works in Super and go into dungeons with mons that are weak to each other

>>26925429
>>26925267
Autism is at work here.

JEW BARS STAY WITH ME

>>26925677
He's right though. Riolu's movepool is okay but not great. Counter is absolutely fantastic. You're basically your partners body guard. And Reversal is broken. And evolving is mandatory
Seriously, he's fucking right here. I ran Riolu too and that's basically him in a nutshell

>>26925719
Occam's samefag.
If it looks like a samefag, smells like a samefag, quacks like a samefag, it's a samefag.

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>>26925758
Not the Anon, but are we really pulling out the samefag card here?

>>26925770
No. It's my activated trap card.
Who the fuck would be a sycophant on /vp/?

>>26925546
>Your team steals from Kecleon so much that your team become wanted criminals

>>26926444
They should make that a mechanic

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>>26925525
Here you go.

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>>26926582
Alternative version

>>26926666
Looks 10/10, thanks anon.

>be rescue team player
>yanma used sonicboom
>fixed straight line 55HP
this is truly hell valley

>>26928887
Just wait for Dragon Rage, which is the same shit only 10 damage extra

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>>26928925
I swear Dragon Rage hits only front tile, and not in straight line.
>sonic boom gets nerfed to 20 in explorers, the same as in core series
>dragon rage gets nerfed to... 30
>30
>tfw dragons got cucked

>>26924541
GtI does it whenever you go to a place that won't let you go back to Post Town, but it gives you a little more freedom, since like 5 Pokémon come with you.

>>26925505
>If they decide to make the next game smaller in scale, I'd actually like to see a PMD/Shiren crossover. It sounds kind of stupid but I think it could work.
It sounds strange, but I think it could be enjoyable. However, would TPCi ever allow letting Pokémon get hurt by weapons/non-moves? It seems like something they would avoid. Pokémon meat is something they would definitely avoid as well.

>>26929765
Yeah, they seem to be pretty insistent on having only Pokemon fight Pokemon. You never see humans attacking Pokemon(especially with weapons) outside of fighting-type trainers who spar with their bros. Probably due to how human-Pokemon violence could be seen as animal cruelty(Pokemon is already the butt of many jokes about cockfighting).
Personally, I think Shiren is cutesy enough that it could be allowed(although it's probably more likely that they would make it JP-only, especially considering Shiren's low popularity outside of Japan). I hadn't thought about meat, though, that would definitely have to be retooled into something else.

>>26930299
>although it's probably more likely that they would make it JP-only, especially considering Shiren's low popularity outside of Japan
Well, we did get Pokémon Conquest, which is a crossover with Nobunaga's Ambition.

>I hadn't thought about meat, though, that would definitely have to be retooled into something else.
Heh, Transform exists.

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>>26930327
The issue with Transform is how it differs from Shiren's meat. In Shiren, you use a Bufu's Cleaver(or Bufu's Staff) to turn enemies into meat. You carry the meat around for when you need it, and you can even throw the meat at enemies to turn them into whatever monster the meat belonged to.
Transform only works on the user, and is a move instead of an item. It takes away a huge part of the strategy involved in gathering and using the right types of meat(ex: I'll stick around on a floor to get Pacorepkin meat, or I'll hold on to Mamel meat to throw at a tough monster).
I could see something like "Transform capsules" being used. But the question is what the Bufu's Cleaver equivalent would be.

>>26930394
Well, maybe now that we have Wands you could use them like that. Just say it's magic or whatever and there should be no problem, right?
Using a Transform Wand on a specific Pokémon gives you a *Pokémon name* Wand or something. It would be kind of strange like this though.

>>26930394
Kirby literally has a Bufoo's staff inside its mouth

>>26930460
What about the Cleaver, though? It would be weird to have a weapon that turns enemies into wands.
There could be no Cleaver, but Shiren has a bonus dungeon that is entirely based around it. It would be a waste not to have one.

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I just want chespin to be just as broken in the next game

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ded?

>>26934044
Does it even have a footprint

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>>26934057
If you could pick him up and stamp him on something, I guess. Wonder how he even signed his name on that tiny paper.

>>26934124
Very carefully

>>26934376
>carefully

It was sloppy as shit.

>>26935055
"Carefully" is subjective

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>>26935055
DON'T CALL IT SLOPPY!

>>26935959
Calm down, you big Miltank

Any idea when ill be able to play PSMD on my android device?

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>>26936695
>Any idea when ill be able to play PSMD on my android device?

>>26936695
That's fucking retarded.
As far as I know there isn't even an Android version of Citra, and it doesn't run well yet. Well, I don't know about the Chinese fork, but still it's probably not good enough. Just get a cheap 3DS that's under 11.0 and pirate it if it's because you don't have money, mobile phones are not going to give you a good experience with it.

>>26936740
my dad's gonna laugh at me if i buy a 3ds

>>26936780
Why does it matter?

>>26936780
>>26936695
The only way you could've made this more underage is if you said "pls no bully"

>>26936740
sorry, was meant for >>26936695

>>26936804
because he'll make my life worse this way, i dont want that

>>26936810

forgot to add my post, >>26936810

I've been up all night, working on a project, I'm going to sleep

>>26936831
>>26936856
what

>>26936848
What else has he forbidden?

>>26936879
not much, but he wants me to grow up and be more "normal"
normal people dont play games according to him

>>26936695
In about five hours

>>26936900
Heh, I hope you manage to make him realize how dumb that is then.

>>26887964
I personally love it to death, but it's not everybody's thing. Try playing it a bit more until it picks up. It starts pretty slow.

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Need another save. Thanks /pmdg/.

>>26937915
On my way. Just sit tight!

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>>26938285
>>26937915
Yep yep

Why do faggot pokemons who can't pay ask to join my team after the job is done?
I accepted a machop earlier and it was lvl 1
Why is this allowed?

>>26939553
If you decline you get 1000 Poke, which is more than most job reward money, but less than you'd get if the reward is a Gold Ribbon. Generally, jobs with ??? as the reward result in mons becoming a recruit or them giving you an egg, which hatches into a first form/baby of a mon that appeared in the dungeon the job was located in.

Declining a potential recruit that's in Spinda's Cafe or hatched from an egg gives you nothing, though.

>>26939553
>level 1 salamence joins my team

hey i'm not complaining, i dont have to level it.

>>26939780
And will also not get the evolution stat boosts
And potential moveset problems

>>26941290
>evolution stat boosts
Big deal, i'm swimming in vitamins
>potential moveset problems
i only plan on testing it in ZIS, nowhere else

Do EVs work in these games?

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>>26941361
Nope. Instead, vitamins keep working until you hit 255 in said stat.

Pic related, it's a Wooper at the maximum possible stats a Wooper can have. The cap of 255 is broken by hold items and Swap items. HP's cap is 999 in Sky, 500 in Super i think

>>26941361
They don't exist in these games.

>>26941407
>vitamins keep working until you hit 255 in said stat
Can I get 255 in every stat or does it cap in 510 overall like in the main games?

>>26941435
You can get 255 in every stat.

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>>26941435
255 in every stat, yep. You can only pass 255 with hold items/swap items. Pic related is what happens if you try upping a maxed stat in the Cafe in Sky.

>>26941415
>>26941462
Thanks

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>>26941464
While i'm at it, i should mention Kecleon's so deadly in Sky because it already has maxed stats.

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>enter Meteor Cave after clearing Silver Trench Hell
>get fucking bombarded with Def. Deoxys on nearly every fucking floor
>lv. 42 Absol w/Bite and Shadow Ball doesn't do shit
>only make it to floor 12 and die of hunger due to sticky trap disabling my Tight Belt and last Reviver Seed

Can anyone give me a tip for this dungeon? I got myself a Tight Belt, but I'm not sure what other item will help me here (unless I should grind some more Gummis to get my stats and IQ up to git gud).

>>26941867
>get tight belt
>don't go into the place again until you're level 90+ so you actually have a good chance at recruiting deoxys

>>26941890
That'd take me forever though.

>>26941968
Get Trap Seer then, assuming Absol is your "main"

ZIS guy from a day or two ago, got sidetracked but i WILL continue that run tomorrow

If we get a pmd game with gen 7 mons, I want Grubbin as an option

>>26941867
>this guy didn't buff his absol

>>26942925
Doubt it'll happen, 1st stage bugs like that get very few moves usually

>>26942940
well, can we at least get Helioptile?

I'm honestly disapointed that if you wanted to play as an electric type in super, your only option is pikachu and if you don't like pikachu you get to eat shit.

>>26942973
Bring back starter Shinx

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>>26942973
in addition to pic related i feel like Helioptile/Pancham/Goomy/Tyrunt/Amaura could be decent starter choices. This is only considering Gen 6, though.

I don't see why they can't add a ton of starters in. 20? Fuck 20, why not 40 or more? Something for everyone.

>>26942980
>Shinx

When was shinx a starter?

>>26942999
Sky only

>>26942991
>Cubone
>Growllite
>Axew
>Helioptile

I want these so bad

>>26943004
Ah, never had sky, only time

Why could

>>26943015
Well, with the magic of save editing, you can have Cubone/Growlithe starters in Sky as custom starters. Or any one of the pokemon up to gen 4

>>26942991
>actually including WiiWare starters
I AM PROUD OF YOU ANON

>>26943102
The wiiware starters should be in the games as starters to begin with, and i dont just say that because i have a massive bias for my favorites.

Other than Axew, what other Dragon starter would be good? A fairy starter would be nice as well, but I can't think of anything.

Still trying to get Deoxys; no luck so far, but I managed to get a few more gummis and doing a little better after changing a few items around.
Pitfall traps are actually useful in Meteor Cave since it saves time trying to find it. And Gravelerocks help with Def. Deoxys' constant defense boosts and locating it.

>>26944025
What starter are you running?

Magma Cavern and Uproar Forest seem to be filled with Gummis. Uproar Forest run should yield you like at least 4 or something, or maybe even more if you abuse Pickup.

>>26885483
How do i beat Groudon?

>>26944335
Which game?

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I thought that there were no shiny in the games, beside Celebi

>>26944687
Not sure if serious, but it's not shiny, it's just female.

>>26944687
>s
GtI has Ho-oh and AS has some

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>escort Vileplume to floor 17 of Magma Cavern
>Vileplume used Aromatherapy
>Vileplume used Aromatherapy
>Vileplume used Aromatherapy
>The move Aromatherapy could not be used
>The move Aromatherapy could not be used
>The move Aromatherapy could not be used
At least it's not Purity Forest, I guess.

>>26943267
Bagon is the only one I can think of off the top of my head

>>26943267
Goomy and Ralts.

Tree of Life felt pretty short.
I wish it was longer, like 30 floors total, where it gets harder and harder as you reach the last 5 floors.

>>26948601
People already complain the game is too hard, people wouldn't be able to finish it if the dungeons were longer.

I agree, though. The final dungeons should have been longer, but with Super's accelerated hunger I didn't see it as an issue.

>>26944314
Eevee, but I'm rotating between it, Absol and my partner (custom partner Skitty). I'm using Absol since it resists psychic.

I did a few runs of Uproar Forest with missions that gave Gummis (after running through the dojos to refresh them). Doing better in terms of damage and latest IQ skill is All-Terrain Hiker, which helps since Deoxys keeps getting stuck in a loop in the water on later floors.

>find huge list of wiiware .wads
>md games nowhere to be found

JUST

>>26952215
I have Blazing and Lighting, if you can't find them I could upload them for you.
Anyway look for them individually and you should find them, it's going to be easier this way.

>>26952252
I dunno about them anyways, because i feel like i'd need a translation guide every step of the way.

My wii's hacked and i can put .wads into it, will they work?

>>26952361
>will they work?
Yeah. I think you have to use a regionfree .wad though, like my Lighting one, but I'm not sure.

>i feel like i'd need a translation guide every step of the way.
The most problematic parts are definitely items and moves, since the story is simple and menus don't switch places.

>>26943102
thanks, i spent like an hour making it

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reminder

>>26954212
its a damn shame that pmd cant be hacked properly

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>>26954212
I don't understand how anyone is meant to complete this game without Leech Seed and Revive abuse. No matter which Pokemon you have, they just get one-shot every single turn by most of the legendary gauntlet at the end of the game. It certainly doesn't help that whiting out is game over due to REALLY GOOD SCRIPTING

>>26954212
I'm glad my file glitched out so I couldn't experience that utter hell and bullshit towards the endgame.

>>26954489
Well there is some progress being made now; you can add portraits at the very least for custom starters (a full set for male Wooper was made).

coming here is really helping me through this extremely depressing day. Thank you guys.

>>26955309
It's what we're here for, Jim. Take a load off

>>26955383
Yeah, After my ferret having a seizure all day, the medicine he usually gets wasn't working, and the vet being closed until monday, he died just a few minutes ago.
sorry for the blog post

>>26955406
>sorry for the blog post
No worries. I was going to ask you if you wanted to talk about it anyhow
I'm so sorry, Anon

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After slacking off for a few days it's back to this. Might not get it done tonight but i'll try. Found a Reviver Seed early on, which is cool

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>>26955406
Hope you feel better soon, anon.

>>26955415
>>26955537
worst part about it is that I'm going to my family's 4th of July party, and I have to tell my sister (who originally owned the ferret for two years before she gave it to me).

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Going to have to dip into all these Max Elixirs soon. Also found a Joy Seed.

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>>26955406
I came in this thread just to share my condolences. I'm so sorry, anon. I'm sure he was a wonderful little buddy, just rest assured he's in a good place now.

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Hooray for the ai being too dumb to eat the good seeds on me.

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shit. Good thing i have Orbs, though

my condolences, anon. might be having to go through that stuff soon myself, but that's still in the future

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With an entire page of Max Elixirs, i feel it's time to spam Minimize and use Wide Slash until Stockpile comes.

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I lost my explorers of darkness game

i loved it so much

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As I go deeper, there's a problem. I have no Trawl Orb or Pure Seed. Worst case scenario, I'll have to get creative to steal.

>>26955892
Going to get started on Sky? Custom starters or normal?

>>26955939
I never really used much the Pounce orbs in Sky, but aren't those infinite length in there as well?

>>26955983
Right up until you hit a wall, yeah.

If i can't find those two items, I'll use this Mobile Orb to escape.

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WHY THE FUCK DID YOU BLOW UP? YOU CAN'T EVEN LEARN EXPLOSION!

Even after like 600+ hours in this fucking game new shit happens

>>26956129
It Traced your Aftermath.

>>26956146
In all the times i've fought porygons in ZIS, I have NEVER seen this happen, ever.

Anyways, i'm not finding Pure Seeds/Trawl Orbs. Might bank on Warp Seeds.

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none of these are the tight belt

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it's on now.

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After like fifty fucking ZIS runs I finally fucking have this fucking Tight Belt. Eat shit, anon from earlier.

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I escape orb'd out the next floor. Might have only been 3 floors, but i am NOT chancing it.

Fifty runs. That's 4950 floors. All of ZIS. I've finally gotten every single fucking item in the game.

>>26956343
Congrats.
So what now?

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>>26956405
>what next

I don't really know. Between 100%ing Blue, 100%ing Sky, and just about 100%ing SMD, i have nothing left to do. I could work on my ZIS guide and try out other pokemon, but I doubt there's something as good as Drifblim, but maybe people might want to use something else for a change.

I could run Sacred Ruins again, but Drifblim's still among the best there even with the nerf, and that dungeon's very unbalanced, not to mention there's no reward.

I'm honestly at a loss. 1 and a half years later, and Sky is totally beaten. Every item gotten (between cart and emulator anyways), every pokemon got on cart, and countless hours put into the game. It's a pretty bittersweet feeling honestly. maybe i'll go for all recruits Round 2.

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>>26956439
Alright. Do whatever as long as you're still having fun.

>>26956439
you'll still hang out with us though right?

>>26956318
Good job!
i'm that anon btw

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hand over the presents or I rape you.... again
no, you are not getting my age

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Any tips for recruiting everyone? Should I just go through dungeons like normal while holding the Amber Tear, or should I actively do ??? missions in hopes of getting mons?
Also, after beating Articuno, he didn't come back to ask me to join, unlike Rayquaza and the others. Does this happen often with other legendaries? It'd seem like a pain to get the Regis if that's the case.

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>>26958275
also, yes it is my birthday, so there's that
good thing no one cares

>>26958650
What I did was go through each dungeon in order, recruiting everything from each that I didn't already have.
Pick up some ??? missions on the side and complete them when you get around do doing their dungeon if you want, but I wouldn't rely on them as your main source of recruits.

I think that the guardians of the Seven Treasures and Regis have their recruit rate fixed at 50%. Regigigas is a guaranteed recruit, though.

Have fun with Porygon.

>>26958765
happy birthday espanon

>>26958275
>>26958765
Happy birthday!

>>26958765
Happy birthday, you adorable pink serial rapist you.

>>26962138
Lilligant can't sing, it has no mouth.

>>26962513
She's trying her best and that's what matters.

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>>26962138
>beat SMD
>everyone in Lively Town's stuck singing forever
Why. It would've been so easy to cycle through all the other events (karate lessons, etc.) on a daily basis.

>>26964962
It's basically tradition at this point that every character dies as soon as the story ends, that their lives just stop. Maybe they'll get it right next game.

>>26965056
Next game will have the same issue, but it will be explained as a time loop.

Cue post-postgame

>>26964962
>Mr. Drowzee left to go travel a while ago.
It's been months since he departed, Marill.
Also, after unlocking Marine Resort it seems like some of the other townspeople just leave and never come back

>>26966523
How long are those teams in Pokémon Square gonna complain about being Normal and Gold rank? Why do they just stop working?

>>26967213
>"waaa i'm normal rank"
>can get it by running into tiny woods like 10 times
>"i'm gold rank i'm the fucking shit"
>can get it by going into buried relic with a "find item" mission with the item and using an escape orb instantly

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>>26967213
>Charizard and Blastoise come crawling back from Western Cave
>"Hey I know we were just on the verge of death a few seconds ago, BUT HAVE YOU HEARD ABOUT RANKS? WE NEED TO TRY HARDER."
>meanwhile Alakazam can't stop talking about how much he wants to become One Punch Mon

>>26968483
>charizard and blastoise are supposed to be the best of the best
>get fucked hard by mewtwo
>meanwhile a small unevolved pokemon can walk on in and 1shot the mewtwo while tanking everything

They need to learn what Gummis are, so much for being Gold rank

>you will never go on a life changing adventure with your best friend and become respected amongst your peers

>>26968483
>One Punch Mon was the original "Lucario Rank"
I could believe it, we haven't made much lore for him

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>>26969900
>you will never explore a vast world filled with ancient ruins, breathtaking vistas, and untold legends, all alongside a tightly-knit team you can trust with your life
I can't wait for EOV.

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>>26960510
>Do this combo in Super
>Wow, this combo really goes well with each other!
>I should find art of this combo!
>Search up combo
>Realise this is the furrybait combo
>Too deep in Super to restart
>Too invested in the characters to restart
>Love combo too much to restart
Fuck it

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>>26972806
>pick the two biggest furbait pokemon in the roster
>somehow didn't realise this immediately

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>>26972806
>Pick basically the most furbait mons in the roster
>Didn't realise they're the most furbait mons in the roster until now

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>>26972838
>>26972896
It was an honest mistake! Anyone could've made the same mistake!
I just didn't think at the time that they were furrybait. I just thought "Hey, these two look good together"

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>>26972954
>I just thought "Hey, these two look good together"

>>26972954
Congratulations, you've just found out you were a furry this entire time!

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>>26972954
>I just thought "Hey, these two look good together"
Son

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There is nothing wrong with liking Riolu and Fennekin. Not everyone associates them with furries.

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>>26972971
>>26972981
>>26972997
I didn't connect the dots until now! I'm not one of those people!
They just looked good together and they cover each others flaws and they're cute together!
Cute things are cute! Is it wrong to cherish the special doggu with a special doggu?

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>Picking Riolu and Vulpix/Fennekin

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>picking riolu and fennekin

>>26954212
>there's nothing here worth sight-seeing
>IT'S FUCKING NOTHING
Prophets???

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>>26973031
Son, who's your third party?
And by that i mean your third party member for dungeons

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>picking Fennekin as your partner
Too bad that I hate the Super partner for bullying Goomy and turning out to be the reincarnation of some pink fuck.

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>>26973069
Why? Does it matter?
I mostly use Zoroark but that's because of the Warrior/Mage/Rogue dynamic! It's not what you're thinking!
IT'S NOT WHAT YOU'RE THINKING

>>26973124
Survival of the fittest. Goomy couldn't adapt and he suffered for it. The Super partner literally did nothing wrong.

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>>26973143
>tfw someone uses Riolu, Fennekin and Zoruark on their Exploration team, and only realizes now that it associates with furbait.

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>>26973143
>I mostly use Zoroark
>with fennekin and riolu
>it's not what you think

It's okay anon. I believe you. Totally.

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chespin is so good its almost unfair

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>>26973143
>Zoroark
>Funnelcake
>And Riolu
>"it's not what you think!"

>>26952418
>>26952361
>>26952252
>>26952215
>tfw playing WiiWare games

okay, they're not masterpiece, but they're still fun enough.

Dat party-wide Max Elixir, though.

>>26954212
>mega man music at the lv. 100 gauntlet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfJDYfYMD3s
at least it's good

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>>26973153
Any partner who ditches their teammates is no partner of mine.

>>26973313
As long as they don't ditch me I couldn't care less. ;_;

Partner betrayal when?

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>>26973313
>When you rob from a Kecleon and it goes surprisingly well
There should be a mechanic where if you escape from a Kecleon they do nothing like normal
And then ambush you five floors later when your guard's down

So is chikorita still ass awful in Super?

>>26974549
You have no idea

I don't need to care about my partner's belly, right?
If I give him an item that makes it go down faster, it'll change nothing, right?

>>26974982
Companion health is usually frozen unless they step on a hunger trap, but I don't actually know if giving them one of those items would change that.

>>26974982
Their Belly gets depleted by Pass Scarves or when they catch an item that speeds up hunger that's thrown at them, but holding them won't do anything.

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>>26973031
>cherishing two doggos
>being this furry
funnelsnek is the OTP

>>26975456
Just finished Super main story.

It's good. I enjoyed more RT and Sky though.

Nuzleaf best character.

>>26975732
>Nuzleaf
>not Espurr
Acceptable, nonetheless.

I'm not at my computer, someone else is gonna have to make the new thread.

>>26976715
fine i'll do it, give me a couple minutes

>>26976758
New thread

>>26976774
>>26976774
>>26976774

>>26976758
>>26976776
Thanks man. Sorry, I've only done the past few threads. I'm not used to running something that's not my own.

>>26976829
i've just been lazy and hoping someone else makes the threads, which you did for a bit.

>>26976874
It's not a problem, I thought it was always a "whoever gets to it first" kind of thing. I just happened to be my turn to grab it.