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Gentleman, how do we fix Talonflame?

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Gentleman, how do we fix Talonflame?
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>>26865190
Make Iwanko fast and give it Gale rocks
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>>26865190
Talonflame is flawless already.
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>>26865200
>Early fire type
>Also the early bird
>Strong stats
>Flying type with flame body for breeding in game
>Strong ability for competitive
>Based on the most based bird, the peregrine falcon
This is true, it really is flawless
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Give it a good name.
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I start by turning the sound off...
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>>26865198
Also rock type pursuit. Never have Talonflame problems again.
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>>26865190
Gale wings to work on moves 60bp or under
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You can't fix what isn't broken.
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>>26865274
But Talonflame IS broken
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>>26865190
Nerf Gale Wings, +.5 priority instead of +1, that way at least you can Aqua Jet the shit before it fucks you up
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Reduce the strength of brave bird
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>>26865190
Sacred Fire and Dragon Ascent.
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>>26865283
No, it's really not.
>>26865291
Uh, no.
>>26865294
No.
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Sneaky Pebbles
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>>26865324
t. Talonflame
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>>26865320
This.
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>>26865324
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>>26865342
Very funny assfag, but I'm not buying that shitty b8. Cute Rotom.
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>>26865337
On the internet no one can tell you're a talonflame
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>>26865190
Hopefully they'll give it a boost in attack in SM, that's all it really needs.
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>>26865198
>>26865246
>Also rock type pursuit
Catapult Charge

>Talonflame usage plummets
>Fighting types rise again
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>>26865351
You already did, Faggot McFaggotstein
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>>26865580
Don't forget bug types!
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>>26865190
Rotom-W is probably the best option for dealing with all variants of bravebird. resists both STABs, doesn't care about Will-o-Wisp for the most part, taunting it doesn't really matter.

T-tar's also a great choice to deal with banded birds, especially for pursuit-trapping on the switch.
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>>26865324
I agree w you're opinions but you are in denial
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>>26865190
gale wings only works in the first (and maybe second) turn
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Buff Brave Bird by 30bp
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>>26865607
Not with Gale Rocks and Catapult Charge around.
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>>26865703
Let's use meme magic to make Catapult Charge real
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Rock type priority move, I don't get how that's not a thing yet
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>>26865190
High Jump Kick.
There, it's now perfect.
>>26865920
>Rock
>getting anything good
Fun fact: Rock had the second-fewest moves of any type in Gen I and Gen VI, and maybe others, I didn't check, only beating out Dragon both times.
Besides, rocks aren't known for being particularly fast on their own.
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>>26865190
Mega +100 attack and now gets close combat
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>>26865190
Gale Wings now temporarily increases its speed by 1 stage when using a Flying-type attack instead of giving it +1 priority.
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Gale Wings increases your speed by 1 stage when using Flying moves instead of priority.
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>>26866255
>>26866227

there is no precedent for this mechanic. it makes no sense anyway because of how priority is determined. even if a mon becomes faster as a mega, it will go second on the turn it megas.

it would literally be easier to increase all current priority moves by 1 while leaving gale wings at +1.
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>>26866227
>>26866255
Gale wings trade off priority with STAB
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To everyone saying rock type priority would help, there is only one rock type that outspeeds talonflame' priority, pic related, and it's not like talonflame stays in when up against one of the few types that resists it so well.
Rock type pursuit for when it switches would be the best.
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>>26865190
remove gale wings
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Retcon Gale Wings like Chandelure lost its HA between gens.
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>rock-type version of aeril/refriger/pixilate
>extremespeed
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>>26865216
I like to think it's more like a chicken for the in-game breeding
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>>26868605
also remove or de buff flair blitz/ brave bird
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By cutting its balls off, idiot
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Priority Electric attack with wide distribution (no idea why electricity-which moves at the speed of light-doesn't already have priority, to be honest).

Also gives Electric types a bit more useability, which they (on average) need and Rock types do not. The only reliable Electrics are Rotom, Thundurus and Zapdos. The rest all have way too many flaws (notably a weakness to Earthquake) to be used competitively,
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Did you notice that the people who think talonflame is broken are the same people who refuse to use stealth rocks because "MUH SMOGON HAZARDS XD"? Because I sure did.
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>>26866314
I support this.
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>>26865190
Buff Gale Wings
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>>26868900
Electricity doesn't move at the speed of light. Electrons, small as they are, still have enough mass that such speeds would require too much energy. But it IS goddamn fast, so your point stands, sans my pedantic autism.
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>>26869041
I have no problem using SR. I despise Talonflame because it is a braindead easy revenge killer that can fit on literally any team, and which necessitates that every single team have something capable of taking two BBs and return a OHKO just to threaten it into switching.

Also priority healing is horseshit and you fucking know it.
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>>26865190

Make him friends with Fred Flintstone
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>>26868798
That'd be great if we get a proper chicken thats not fire type and it randomly has flame body as it's rarer ability because of eggs
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Gale Wings doesn't trigger in rain, hail, or sandstorms.
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Needs Close Combat
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>>26865190
Give it a gun
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>Use Rotom-H
>Never have Talonflame problems
I'm surprised this thing is UU, it's great in OU.
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>>26865324
keep the denial, faggot
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>>26871489
Rotom Wash is just as impervious to Talonflame. Both resist Flying and Fire type moves.
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>>26865190
Remove Gale Wings
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