Do you believe the 1000 arms theory?

It was more of a purple prose to talk about its power, not that it literally has that many arms

>>26845760
>>26845807

I'll bet Richard believes it

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Each "arm" is an avatar of sorts that does buisness on behalf of the real thing which sleeps in a pocket dimension. Don't expect it to wake up until the heat death of the universe.

I wanted the little nubs on its neck to extend out into little tentacles and split and branch and shit

>>26845917
entropy is super weird in pokemon, theres energy pouring out of every damn thing

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>>26845760

No. I don't believe in unofficial sources.

But do Arceus actually have a thousands arms.

>>26845917
>believing in universal heat death

>>26845943
genesect, slugma, etc

>>26845911

Arceus having a thousands arms is not a theory. It's a fact.

No. All pokemon are for is collecting and battling, and that's all the game is about, too. It is the only lore. This is irrelevant.

>>26845924
entropy simply doesn't exist in pokémon, I mean, there's this fucking infinite energy

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>>26845960

Everything in the Pokédex is true.

>>26845943
fuck off Richard, etc etc

>>26845971
That would mean the type chart doesn't exist, either.

>>26845947
Well, if thermodynamics are right, it's bound to happen. Even if "this" universe end in a big crunch or whatever else, heat death will happen eventually.

>>26845943
Mátate Ricardo

>>26845975
nope. everything in the pokedex is NOT ALWAYS true

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>>26845977
>>26845982

Everything in the Pokédex is true.

>>26845992
everything in the pokedex is NOT ALWAYS true

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>>26845990

Liar.

Each "Arceus" is just one of the thousand arms

The true Arceus will never be shown

>>26846005
you are a liar

>>26846005
>zzzz-dddd-aaaa!
Can the pokedex tell me what did he mean by this?

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>>26846001

Liar!

>>26846013
Is that why arceus is so fat?
>every "space globe" in an arceus' torso is the spherical 3-d cross section of an extradimensional arceus finger

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>>26846019

I didn't say it. The Pokédex did.

>>26846028
no, you are liar because pokedex is not always true

You're not lore. The only lore is collecting and battling. Everything you say is invalid.

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>instead of conversations about lore, we can only have mewtist threads

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>>26846023

Ask the scientists in Hoenn region.

>>26846058
I wish Richard was gone so we could discuss lore without having all this autistic shitposting about the pokédex.

>>26845960
Not to be a Richard, but with ORAS talking about parallel universes or different dimensions or whatever, all Pokédex entries could technically be correct, but only for the universe that it comes from.

>>26846058
No one ever really talks about lore. It's all fanfiction. You must get rid of everything but collecting and battling.

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>>26846047

oh...that. well...The Pokédex is always right about everything.

>>26846059
That's not a pokedex. NPC dialogue is non-canon because it happens outside of the pokedex.

>>26846074
The Pokédex is NOT right about everything.

how do we kill this autist using his own logic and arguments?

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>>26846076
>>26846086

It's part of Pokémon lore.
Yes. The Pokédex is always right about everything.

>>26846072
Ya see, the writing in pokemon is forced to be so inoffensive and bland that in canon no interesting exploration of lore could ever be possible.

When it comes to lore, all that matters is the rules put forth and explored by the current fanfiction you are reading.

The only problem with this is that fanfiction is almost universally trash.

>>26846104
No. The Pokédex is NOT right about everything.

Battling and collecting is the only thing that no one can argue with. It is the only truth. It is the only lore. Everything else is fanfiction.

>>26846118

Lies.

>>26846094
>>26846086

You can't because nothing in the games proves the Pokedex entries wrong.

The whole "Pokedex is bullshit" thing is because of a few select entries like Magcargo or Machamp, even though most everything the Pokedex says is actually true.

>>26846094
You can't, every source that isn't the Pokedex or straight from Masuda's Mouth is considered false to him.
>Accelgor's Entry says it's fast but it has shit base speed!
>lolstats aren't canon
>Magcargo should literally be melting the Earth and surrounding areas!
>lolnah, Pokemon Logic is different from Real Life

>>26846072
Are you nega-Richard?

>>26846115
What are you talking about? All pokemon is about is collecting and battling. This is lore, not anything written by fanfiction.

>>26846125
What's your proof that it is always right about everything ?
And do NOT post an example. You'd need to prove it for EVERY SINGLE pokémon for it to be an acceptable proof. Even 720 examples wouldn't be enough of a proof. You've only proved that it is SOMETIMES right.

>>26846134
If it can't be proven, then it is useless regardless.

>>26845760
Thread theme
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fD73ZEmjmVE

>>26846136
>145 Base Speed
>shit

Wat? Also, depending on how the heat is contained inside Magcargo, the statement that "it should literally be melting the Earth and surrounding areas!" is literally false.

>>26846074
>>26846028
The overworld has no effect on canon. Only the pokedex is canon

sunspark has more arms because fire ghost

>>26846162
>m.

>>26846154

Prove that Pokédex is wrong.

>>26846141
Not really. I just want it to be set straight what the real lore is.

>>26846169

What is lore?

>>26846164
Fuck, I meant Escavalier.

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>>26846173
Slugma sleeps yet never sleeps. That is NOT possible. The "Johto Slugma vs Hoenn Slugma" theory isn't proven and is only a theory

>>26846172
https://youtube.com/watch?v=fD73ZEmjmVE
Better?

>>26845980
the theories that come to the conclusion of heat death are based on principles that assume the flow of energy is consistent throughout the universe, and as much as I admire science, it becomes a very impractical practice once you get beyond the realm of more astute observations, mapping space, one of our more typically regarded achievements, proves to be inaccurate, week to week, as new asteroids, planets, and theories regarding the mechanisms that interact between all of them change

It's not a BAD theory, going off of energy conservation laws, but it assumes too much, which in science, is unfounded without sufficient research to back up the claims needed to make those assumptions

>>26846186

In our reality?
Yes. It's impossible.


In Pokémon Actuality?

It's possible.

>>26846195
Maybe.

Mobilefags should still stop existing.

>>26846182
Collecting and battling. Nothing else matters.

>>26846202
How the fuck can Slugma sleep yet never sleep ? I can understand a world with different rules, but that goes against the basic concept of logic. Explain to me how it works. Fuck, fanfiction is better written than the fucking pokédex.

>>26846208
Not that guy, but why?

>>26846186
It never sleeps AWAY from lava.
Hoenn has a volcano and lava, Johto doesn't.

>>26846228
The entire game is built around it. It is the only thing that is clearly observable from every standpoint. This makes it the law.

>tfw Richard's Dextism has me leading to believe Zinnia's Multiverse Theory was actually right which explains inconsistent Dex Entries like Slugma

>>26846222

tell your Pokémon to put to Entei to sleep.
It'll still run.

>>26846258
That's just a game mechanic so that it remains a roaming pokémon, though.

>>26846240
Shit, meant that for >>26846205

>>26845760
The arms are basically a reference to the Unown surrounding it or its plates. It's not a literal interpretation.

>>26846325

Lies.

>>26846332
Still more interesting than the shitdex.

>>26846267

The Pokédex is always right.

>>26846342

Fan theories are more interesting than The Pokédex.

Are You insane!?

>>26846358
The pokédex is absolutely crap and a 5 years old could write more interesting entries.

>>26846358
NO ONE FOLLOWS THE LORE. ALL OF YOU LIVE A LIE! NONE OF YOU REALLY LIKE POKEMON NOW!

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>>26846369

That's bull. You know it.

by the way. Arceus was born alone when It hatched from a egg before the Universe even existed.

>>26846384

What is this?

>>26846394
I legitimately think Gamefreak's shit at writing lore. Why would you care about pokémon's lore when pretty much any fictional universe is far more interesting ? Fucking hell, Yugioh's lore is more interesting and it isn't even written, it's all in the cards' drawings.

>>26846410
The truth.

>>26846418

You don't know what that word means.

>>26846441
If you want to believe your fanfiction more than the foundation of the game, then YOU'RE the one that doesn't know it means. Pokemon is only about collecting and battling, period. No one can argue me.

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Pokedex is always right
Mew
Crabhammer

Sure is a specific time of year where people are idiots in here

>>26846476
The summer shit is STILL not true.

>>26846474

Lore = no fantasy and imagination.

The games would be meaningless and boring without a story/lore.

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>>26846476

A Mew can learn every move.

>>26846574
Honestly I'd rather imagine everything and be given no lore at all than be given shitton of lore so that I don't even have anything left to imagine.

>>26846186
It never sleeps, however if it WERE to sleep then it would sleep near magma. Makes perfect sense to me.

>>26846588

Have fun playing a boring game without a story.

People won't play it with you.

My headcanon is that Arceus is a mere physical manifestation of an endless god. Each Arceus is an arm, and each arm has a thousand arms too, ad infinitum.

>>26846613

>Arceus is a mere physical manifestation?


That's accurate and true.

>>26846574
Battling and collecting IS the lore. It is what pokemon is truly about. You think that's boring? Go play another game and let the real poke fans play theirs.

>>26846610
I mean a story's fine, of course I want at least a bit of a story, but I don't mind a game where the lore isn't explained to you, like some MMORPGs who don't tell you shit about the cities or whatever, so you can just imagine how they work, how the people live and whatnot, but you still have an ongoing plot and stuff.
Or give me wonderfully written lore, full in game libraries with tens and tens of books to read about the universe of the game. Now we're talking. Not three to ten lines of text about creatures there could be so much more to talk about. Give us a fucking reason to complete the pokédex other than getting a diploma and a shin y charm, I really want the pokédex to actually be good instead of the piece of shit it currently is.

>>26846476
Richard has been here for months, though.

By the way, I don't get why people still use the summer meme when it has been disproved years ago by moot himself.

And /vp/ is underage all year round, it's not like summer would change that.

>>26846638
Battling and collecting is the only story in pokemon. It's all you need to know.

>>26845943
>in mythology
>mythology
>true
ebin

>>26846663
I honestly wouldn't mind more interesting evil teams, explanations about some pokémon's anatomy, or stuff like idk concept art and origins of some pokémon in GF's cameos, or even characters with a personality. Right now the pokémon universe is one of the most boring ones despite having hundreds of super powered creatures.

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>>26846671

do you realize that myths in Pokémon Earth are true.

The Pokédex is always right.

>>26846635

Pokémon lore is interesting.

If you don't like the story.
then go play boring games without a story.

>>26846675
Go play another game, then. Pokemon was never about learning anything or saving the world or even other people. Battling and collecting is all it was ever about, and it's the only reason to ever play it.

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>>26846613

Yeah. Arceus is a mere physical manifestation.

>>26846696
That's a matter of opinion, Richard. I honestly only like pokémon for its gameplay, but I'm the kind that enjoys games with a good lore and story, may it be told through text or through gameplay itself, like DOOM, who describes a fantastic hellish setting and universe despite barely telling you anything.

>>26846696
I didn't say pokemon doesn't have a story, just that the story is only collecting and battling.

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>>26846715

Pokémon is about collecting.

>>26846724
...and battling. Or will you deny that you have to battle to even collect your pokemon?

>>26846711

I understand that your comment.

>>26846737

But collecting is the most important part.

>>26846743
So, now Richard, please don't hijack threads like you did to that one. If people see you post about the pokédex, you will get answers and the thread WILL be derailed. Please stop posting dex entries. Nobody here cares, and all it does is create shitposting.

>>26845971
No there's not, Infinity Energy is not infinite, it's just a fancy name to lead people away from the fact that it comes from killing Pokémon.

>>26846754
You can't do either without the other, they are of equal importance.

>>26846779

No.

Satoshi Tajiri created Pokémon, because of collecting.

>>26846790
...and made you have to battle to do it. It is a fundamental part of the game.

>>26846755

oh ok. I won't do anything.

>>26846799

You don't have to battle Pokémon to collect them.

>>26846815
Yes, you do. To get them all, anyway. Otherwise, you are not playing the game at all.

>>26846834

I can collect dialga and palkia by using the red chain.

>>26846844
I can collect your mom by using my dick :^)

>>26846844
No, you can't. That is not a function the Red Chain possesses. In fact, it has no function. It is dummy data.

>>26845760
yes and Tentacruel has 80 tentacles and Magcargo is hotter than the Sun.

whoever wrote the pokedex clearly can't count and has no number sense.

>>26846864

The same logic applies to you'res with me.

:)

>>26846931
The pokédex isn't written by anyone, it writes itself automatically.

That's probably the reason it has so much bullshit sometimes, it's like a machine translation.

>>26846869

This is getting boring.
Enough games. back to talking about Arceus thousands arms.

>>26847009
It's irrelevant. It has nothing to do with collecting and battling.

Indian Elephants exist in the Pokémon world, right?

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>>26846059

>>26847039
oh shit... i noticed something else

>>26846069
BUT FIRST LET'S TALK ABOUT PARALLEL UNIVERSES

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>>26845807
This. Multiple arms is a common religious metaphor for power, worth, and relevance, especially in eastern societies. Arceus is God, so it has a "hand" in all things. Its lore is mythologized.

Maybe the people here will understand when they reach the 3rd grade and learn what metaphorical language is.

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A pokedex entry is a pokedex entry! You can't say it's not canon

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>mfw """"Richards"""" try to tell me Pokedex entries are canon
Ridiculous, everyone knows that Pokedex entries tend to be wrong or take place in that game's parallel universe. What's next, are you going to tell me the original Gold and Silver had gen 4 pokemon in it. Face you can't dispute each gen is a parallel universe.

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It's literally a canon fact that ORAS tskes place in a parallel universe.
>Hurr durr NPC dialogue doesn't count
Then where did Zinna come from? Face it """""""""Richards"""""""""

>>26846134

>"The Pokedex is always is always infallibly true except for the times its not"

DIAF Ricky baby

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>>26846186
S-S-STATUS EFFECTS ARE NOT CANON. THEY ARE A GAME MECHANIC. I AM R-RIGHT... DAMN IT...

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>>26845760
>TFW people are arguing over myths and legends in a game where myths and legends are always true.

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>>26846671
MYTHS ARE TRUE. GODDAMN IT THEY ARE. THE POKEMON UNIVERSE MYTHS HAVE NEVER BEEN FALSE. EVER. JUST STOP. POKEDEX ENTRY IS AN POKEDEX ENTRY. END OF STORY.

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>>26846104
See? I told you... You dumb shitposters... Heh...

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>>26846074
THE ISLAND IS IN SOUTH AMERICA. FACT. POKEDEX ENTRIES ARE C A N O N. YOU SEE AMERICA IS JUST A NAME FOR A GROUP OF ISLANDS IN THE POKEMON WORLD, NOT THE ACTUAL CONTINENT.

The only lore is collecting and battling. There is no other story.

>>26847488
But """"Richard""""! What about Unova?!?!

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>>26847500
UNOVA IS NOT THE SAME AS REAL NEW YORK, ONLY BASED OFF IT. THEREFORE, UNOVA IS NOT CANON. ONLY IT'S POKEDEX ENTRIES ARE.

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>>26847039
NPCs were right... Damn...
"""""""""""Richards"""""""""""" BTFO

>>26846186
Can it not be possible for pokemon to learn different behaviors in different regions relative to the terrain?
Pikachu in viridian forest prolly do different things than the ones living in, say, the trophy garden or the power plant

So if the pokedex is cannon, then Mew can learn Crabhammer.

>>26846182

Baby don't hurt me

If it's not about collecting and battling, it is irrelevant. Only collecting and battling is real.

>>26845760
It's a metaphor. This >>26845917 seems to be in the right direction, but I think it's more along the lines of a collective consciousness interlinked throughout time and space (the Unown are carriers)

>>26846682
Then why are they called myths?

>>26845975
until today I can't believe this scene
wtf groundon was thinking?
stupid scene in the games ever

>>26848214
What was Kyogre thinking? They're in the middle of a giant volcano crater.

>>26845760
I want this Unown now!

>>26846242
Link to this multiverse theory?

>>26846983
Oh wow you really got him good!

>>26845992
why does nothing happen if i have a team full of unown

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>>26846104

>>26850116

I don't know.

:^)

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but guize
arceus does haff thousand arms
they're the unknown
each unown is an arm
and together they make up the source code of the gaems