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For example: Honedge hatching from a egg is non-canon and exist outside of core series of Pokémon lore.


In Pokémon Actuality,

Honedge doesn't hatch from a egg.
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>>26800388
If it hatched from an egg then it hatched from an egg.
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Read the first word of the dex entry.
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Inb4 "the pokédex is unreliable because it's written by children".
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https://youtu.be/ZQP0UCbC24k

0:29
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>>26800415
It's not unreliable because it's written by children, it's unreliable because it's filled with bullshit.
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>>26800402

Non-canon.
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>>26800388
Richard, what do you do for a living?
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>>26800461

Nah. Everything in the Pokédex is true.
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>>26800499
You don't get to decide that, Richard. You're not an official source.
Fuck off.
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>>26800406

Canonically, It's not a from a egg.
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>>26800515

The Pokédex is the Official source.

The Pokédex says It's born from a soul infusing with a sword.

It doesn't come from a egg.
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>>26800503

That's completely off topic.

We're talking about Pokémon.
We're not talking about me.
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>>26800406
>>26800415
>>26800505
>>26800527
>>26800516
How them Indian elephants treating you Richard?
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>>26800542

That's a animal. Honedge is not a animal. It's a Pokémon.
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This is clearly a Richard impersonator.

The sentence structure and word usage is way beyond Richard's threshold.
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>>26800596

It is me.
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>>26800607
prove it
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>>26800646

Everything in the Pokédex is true.

For example: Honedge hatching from a egg is non-canon and exist outside of core series of Pokémon lore.


In Pokémon Actuality,

Honedge doesn't hatch from a egg.
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>>26800499
How is that non canon when you can literally do that in the games
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>>26800660
>Honedge doesn't hatch from a egg.
but it does
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>>26800668

Because. It exist outside of core series of Pokémon lore.
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Reminder
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>>26800388
The dex entries. ALL of them. Fuck that garbage. I refuse to believe that titans like Zekrom aren't the size of a building or that birds can fly faster than the speed of sound.
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>>26800684

In Pokémon Actuality - It doesn't.
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>>26800688
no u
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Which came first the Sword or the Egg?
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>>26800388
It can be born from a dead spirit possessing a sword, but it can also reproduce. Idiot.
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It's simple, every Pokemon that lay "Honedge" eggs are just laying eggs filled with a sword, and the spirits possess the sword in the eggs shortly after they're laid
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how does the pokedex no about every pokemon if it isnt already complete
why do the professors send kids out on fools errand
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>>26800688

That's non-canon. It is not a Pokémon lore/actuality.
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>>26800728
fake image troll post
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What came first?
The honedge or the egg?
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>>26800689
>Cuckrom
>size of a building
Then how come it fits inside of N's Castle?
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>>26800708

Lore wise - Honedge doesn't come from a egg.
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>>26800733
>>26800733
Liar. I would never go against the Pokédex entries.Honedge
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>>26800688
I didn't know there was a move tutor for crabhammer
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>>26800754
It's Draco Meteor I think
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>>26800736
How big do you think that ceiling is? It's been years.
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>>26800388
Maybe the egg gets fertilized every time someone dies and their soul transfers inside.
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>>26800725
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>>26800779

No. Honedge doesn't come from a egg.
Honedge
From Hatching a egg is non-canon.
It's not a part of Pokémon lore.
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>>26800734

Canonically, Honedge doesn't come from a egg.
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>>26800388
Since when do you decide what is and isn't canon?
I hadn't realized we had a GF dev on the board.
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>>26800798
It isn't even a definite origin in the dex entry to begin with.

Says "apparently" in the first word. What we do know from the games though is that it 100% comes from an egg so the more likely explanation is it is a pokemon that just looks like a sword. Tons of dex entries have speculation and folklore in them.
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>>26800710
>>26800721

Pure fanon. Canonically, a Honedge doesn't come from a egg.
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>>26800388
Every time you hatch a Honedge someone dies.
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Honedge isn't a Hammer. Mew can learn Honedge.
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>>26800830

Everything in the Pokédex is true.

Here's a example:
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>>26800839
It isn't canon as an angry spirit attaches to a sword, the very dex entry that states it isn't 100% sure on that point, it was speculation.

You as a trainer found out the origin because it could breed through eggs.
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>>26800822

read the Pokédex entries.

It doesn't come from a egg.
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please

just stop fucking responding jesus christ when will anyone learn
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>>26800860

It is canon.

Honedge doesn't come from a egg.

Honedge Hatching From a egg is non-canon
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>>26800856
Here is one of Grimers

"Sludge that was transformed when exposed to X-rays from the moon. Loves sludge, industrial waste and other refuse."

You don't want to make this a pokemon dex battle as there are literally hundreds of absolutely ridiculous entries.

They aren't always canon, accurate and often dipict speculation and folklore in them.
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>>26800840

Nah. Canonically, It doesn't come from a egg.

The Pokédex would said it came from a egg.
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>>26800877

On what grounds because it seems you just lost this argument based of that simple fact I stated and just resort to stating Goodra argument esque replies.
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>>26800881

do you realize that Pokédex entries are part of Pokémon lore right?

Honedge hatching From a egg is not.
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>>26800388
Fuck off, Richard.
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>>26800904

do you know what Pokémon lore is?
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Do people really think a shark can sink an oil tanker by itself? Whoever writes that stuff has their head stuck up their ass and all credibility goes out the window when you start talking about talk about indian elephants. Suspension of disbelief can only go so far.
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Every time a honedge is hatched a soul that's not possessing anything will inhabit it. So really a normal sword hatched from the egg and THEN a soul inhabits it.
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>>26800917

The users don't know that something in the games are part of Pokémon lore.
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>Apparently
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>>26800905
>>26800919

So you want this to be the next Goodra shitposting i'm guessing?
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>>26800931

No.>>2680094
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>>26800949

I don't care about that non-sense.

I care about Pokémon lore and collecting of all Pokémon species.
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How do you know a spirit doesn't just posses a Honedge egg before it hatches?
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>>26800938
Game over. User wins.
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>>26800946
Everything in the Pokédex is true.

It is said.

It is believe.

It is tell.
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>>26800575
could you slide me some info on genesect's cannon, old richie boy?
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>>26800994

This is no game. I'm not playing around with you. You people don't understand Pokémon lore.
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>>26800971

The Pokédex would said it.
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Pokédex is fanon.

Pokédex is fake.

Pokédex is non-official.

Pokédex is stupid.

Pokédex is not Cannon.
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>>26801047
The Pokédex says different things in different games, so it has to leave out some information.
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>>26801036
Richard, where does the pokédex's lore apply ? Not in the games, but the games ARE the official pokéworld, and they don't seem to follow the dex.
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>mfw my name is Richard and I share a name with this autist

Where did he even come from? How did people find out his name?
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>>26800931
>>26800971
One of these
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>>26800388
This is Imposter Richard.

Real Richard, Is me.

I been convert and change My mind. Pokédex not more Canon then Gameplay.
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>>26801086
He posted his Twitter.
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>>26801085
In real Pokémon World. Games are not real Pokémon World, only represent It.
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>>26801139
And then where is the real pokémon world ? There's no game, no books, no movie, no music, no nothing about it. If there is no media, it doesn't exist.
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>>26801139
This.
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>>26801109
Finally.
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>>26801143
But, it Does Exit. You are Just stupid troll.
>>26801139
/Thread
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>>26801161
I'm not being a troll here, I just want to understand. How can the pokémon world exist if there is no media made about it ?
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>>26801139
Thank You
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>>26801165
Because it only exists in the minds of the most autistic and retarded pokemon fans.
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>>26801019

Here.
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>>26801085

In Pokémon Actuality.

Lore = Pokémon Actuality.
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>>26801078

I know but it says none of the current games.
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>>26801064

Nah. Everything in the Pokédex is true.
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>>26801219
Then the game is just a different canon, a different universe. It's not the pokéworld, it's the game world, with different rules. And it's the world we know and love, not one we've never seen outside of the dex's text. The games are just as canon, just a different canon.
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Mew can't learn crabhammer so the pokedex is not correct. Therefore it can never be trusted.
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>>26801252

Already, Here's a example that everything in the games are not part lore/Actuality.

In Pokémon Actuality - May never meets Game freak.

May nevers Jirachi and etc.
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>>26801266

Lie. You are confuse again.

Mew learn every move.
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>>26801304
Yeah, I'm with you there.
Lore/dex/whatever is canon 1
Games are canon 2.
And there are people who care about canon 2 and not canon 1.
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>>26801320

I've noticed that.

It's sad, really.
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>>26800388
Eggs arent eggs but magical pokemon cradles according to an NPC in XY.
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>>26801313
Mew can't learn crabhammer.
Just like Allah, God and moses aren't real. Just because a shitty book or dex says something doesn't mean it's real.
If so the gameworld is the real pokeworld and the dex is a seperate univserse but that's not the pokeworld, that is not the main lore.
Also you're autistic.
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>>26801329
It isn't. I do care about canon 2 far more, because the games are actually something you can experience. You can't experience lore, you can't experience the "real" pokémon world, but you can play videogames and go on a trip with your pokémon, battle with them and whatnot. I honestly don't know why you care so much about the lore, go get a job at gamefreak and write a book if you care so fucking much.

>>26801313
And again, here, not in the games. Mew can't learn every move in canon 2, because it is not offered to you as the player, you can't do it legitimately. The pokédex's lore does not apply to the games.
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>>26801313
Mew can learn every TM/HM, not every move.
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>>26801139
If the games outside of the Pokedex aren't canon
>>26801248
>>26801036
>>26800856
>>26800785
then why the fuck are you using overworld screenshots in your arguments?
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>>26801371

Lore wise, Mew learn every move.

read It's Pokédex entries.
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>>26801384
Not in the games. Mew cannot legitimately learn some moves in the games.
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>>26801353

I know.
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>>26801349

You are confuse. Mew learn every move.
Canonically.
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>>26801395
Then if you know, then you should be aware that it is normal to enjoy the game's canon over some shitty lore.
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>>26801403
No the gameworld is what decides the lore, not your dumb pokedex meme
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we have no way to interact with whatever "canon" the Pokédex purports
so who cares about the dex
fuck the dex
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>>26801386

That's not part of the lore.
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>>26801417

I don't do meme.

The Pokédex doesn't say that Honedge come from a egg.
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>>26801430
It's a different universe, with different lore. And the people on this board mostly care about the game's canon, not the dex's.
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>>26801422

The Pokédex is what's most important.
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>>26800690
In pokémon, literally it does
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>>26801430
And lore is not canon, is just lore.

Lorewise, as in, "people said", Mew can learne everymove.
In the practice, it can't. Lore =/= canon.
Canon is what happens and what not, and some retcons happens, Mew cannot learn Blast Burn, Frenzy Plant, Hydro Cannon and Draco Meteor.

Canon is what happens, lore is just lore: background bits of information that are just there to give some flavor to the world; get your concepts right and stop this nonsense.
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>>26801452
That's your opinion.
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i wish richard died instead of anton yelchin
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>>26801384
Mew can't learn Crabhammer though.
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>so many people taking the obvious bait
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>>26800388
The Dex only refers to the Adam of that particolar species. First honedge was born this way. That doesnt mean another honedge cant come from an egg or how the Dex describes it. One thing doesnt excludes the other
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>>26801384
Pokemon Y Dex entry on Mew
>Its DNA is said to contain the genetic codes of all Pokémon, so it can use all kinds of techniques.
>techniques
Not moves but techniques, as in Technical Moves. And since XY appear to be more modern, this would mean that XY's dex entries are more accurate and up-to-date.
Face it, Mew cannot learn crabhammer.
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>>26801374

something in the games are part of Pokémon lore.
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>>26801479

The lore = the story.
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>>26800886
>implying that any pokedex entry says a pokemon "came from a egg"

Case closed everybody, no pokemon came from a egg because the pokedex didn't said it came from a egg.
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>>26801464

You do know what Actuality means?
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>>26801623

Canonically, Arceus came from a egg.

According to the Pokédex entries.
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>>26801604

You still are confuse.

They copy paste that Pokédex entry from older games.
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>>26800505
>Macgargo's body is as hot as the surface of the sun
>anything remotely close to it should be fucking incinerated due to convection
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>>26801542
define "bait"?


I don't do. bait?
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>>26800542
>>26801019
Fuck off with this reddit shit.
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>>26801657

Pokémon Earth is not like our earth.
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>>26801520

Canonically, a Mew can.
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>>26801697
Not in the videogames, which are canon. Just a different canon from the lore.
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>>26801654
> copy paste
> The text is completly different

Fucking hell, what is wrong with this person
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>>26801708

Nah. The lore is canon.
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>>26801682
Apparently it's close to it because you need a fucking super suit to traverse the cave of origin with Groudon.
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>>26801654
Enlighten us then. So some dex entries are canon and others aren't?
Ok, here are all the dex entries on mew; which ones are canon then?
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>>26801714

Read all of Mew Pokédex entries.
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>>26801613
Learn what is lore first.

Greek Lore talks about a dude that is married with his sister in the top of a mountain and can throw lightnings as jabelins.
Lore from different places talks about a turtle that carries the whole world.
Abrahamic lore talks about an omnipotent and omniscient being.

Lore are folktales, stories to talk about. Not history, not facts.
Lorewise, as you insist to say, Mew could do what yoy says.
But in the practice, what really happens, it can't.

Learn what lore means first.
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>>26801727
Whoops, forgot my image
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>>26801718

It don't always follow same rules as our earth.
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>>26801716
Source ? Proof ?
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>>26801727

What are you talking about?

I believe in everything in the Pokédex.
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>>26801751

Lore = story.
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>>26801738

Lore = story.
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>>26801770
And ? You can try to explain that in your own language because I'm not getting your point here. Pokémon is first and foremost a videogame, not an encyclopedia. It is a universe with videogame rules and limitations.
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>>26801770
>>26801786
Definition of lore
1
archaic : something that is taught : lesson
2
: something that is learned:
a : knowledge gained through study or experience
b : traditional knowledge or belief
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: a particular body of knowledge or tradition
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>>26801789

This is Mewtwo lore.
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>>26801542
We bait bait with bait. 90% of this thread is just baiting eachother
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>>26801809
And ? It doesn't make gameplay any less canon. Pokémon is a videogame. What's in the games is canon. Both gameplay and text, albeit they often contradict each other.
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>>26801815

I'm serous about Pokémon lore.
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This is so fucking autistic.
This guy is the new "Look at these Yokai Watch designs" retard
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>>26801827

Are You confuse?
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>>26801841

I am not like you internet troll.

They were trolls. I am not.
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>>26801628
I mean, honedge can literally hatch from an egg
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>>26801844
Honestly, yes. Gameplay is canon, there is no proof that it isn't. I need a PROOF, someone from gamefreak saying that only what's in the pokédex is canon.
Richard, if you have trouble with english, please make your point in español or whatever language you speak. I don't understand the way you think.
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>>26801861

In Pokémon Actuality - it doesn't.
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>>26801862

In Pokémon Actuality - Honedge doesn't come from a egg.

The Pokédex would have said so.

Everything in the Pokédex is true.
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>>26801886
I want proof of that. I want a proof that gameplay isn't canon and that the pokédex is.
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>>26801654
It says "all kinds of moves", not "all the moves". There is a huge difference.

"I have all kinds of root beer in my fridge" doesn't mean I literally have one of each brand (and home brewed) root beer in existence in my fridge. It means I have a large variety.
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>>26801806

This is part of Mew lore.
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>>26801912

In something in the games are part of Pokémon lore/story.
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>>26801919

Read Mew Pokémon black and white pokédex entry.
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>>26801912

some of the stuff in the games are canon and are not.
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>>26801929
Then refer to what's been said earlier. The games are a different universe. A different canon. Different rules. The dex is canon in the "real" pokéworld, but not in the games, which has its own canon info.
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>>26801943
Do you know how science works?

The first one claims EVERY move yes, but the sequel then goes on to say all kinds of moves.

THIS MEANS RESEARCH HAS BEEN DONE, AND THEY LEARNED THAT IT CANNOT LEARN LITERALLY EVERY MOVE.
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>>26801943
Well duh, Mew can learn metronome, so obviously it can use any move.
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My baby cousin has autism and it makes me sad because I know people are going to bully him because retards like you give them a bad name.
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Richard, if Machamp can punch over 1,000 times a second, how come he can't learn Mach Punch?
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>>26801990

No. Mew learn every move.
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>>26801965

No. The Pokédex is always right about everything.

Continue to read future Pokédex entries.
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>>26802010
see >>26801965

Face it, even in your own argument your proven wrong.
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>>26802025
It's not right about what happens in the game world.
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>>26802025
Are you the kind of guy to say everything Freud said was 100% correct, ignoring what modern psychologists believe?

Science advances, things get proven wrong and updated in later versions. The BW2 pokedex is the updated version of the BW pokedex. And guess what? It says it learns all kinds of moves and not all of them
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maybe they just didn't think the lore through, though yes it is in the pokedex it is easy to make simple mistakes. For example what if it meant the first one was made that way, or the first several, pr just a handful of them are still just spirits inhibiting a sword?

What if the sword is born inside the egg, then the spirit inhibits it within the egg?

I think though, it's just best to assume that eggs are for convenience most of the time.

We just don't know.
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>>26802008
>he?

It. Machamp can be girls too.

Where does it say that it can't learn Mach Punch?
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>clearly mammallian Pokemon emerge from eggs
>Kanghaskhan emerges from an egg with a baby already in-pouch
>Cubone emerges with its mother's skull on
>Skitty and Wailord can mate

For once, I think Richard might be right. Eggs don't make much sense lore-wise. It's almost like they're just a game mechanic for breeding moves and stats into Pokemon.
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>>26802036

No. The Pokédex doesn't work like that.
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>>26802041

define " actuality".
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>>26802103
The pokédex doesn't apply to the game world, which is the only pokémon world that matters.
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>>26802062

No. The Pokédex doesn't work like that.

It's always accurate and correct.
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>>26802103
Then how DOES it work?

And why does it differ from literally every other scientific publication in existence.
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>>26802124
But how can it contradict itself then?
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>>26802075

some stuff in the games are non-canon.

For example: Honedge hatching from a egg.
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>>26802124
Where's your proof that it's always right ? Not examples. Examples are NOT proof. I need an actual quote from Masuda or Sugimori or whoever saying that the pokédex is always right.
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>>26802139

Prove it.
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>>26800388
REMINDER THAT THE ANIME AND THE GAMES ARE DIFFERENT CANONS.

I FUCKING HATE WHEN PEOPLE BRING UP THE ANIME TO ARGUE ABOUT LORE IN THE GAMES

And also: games lore>anime lore
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>>26802142

The Pokédex is a official source.

Not fan fiction.
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>>26802155
I don't have the dex entries with me, but the ones that say that Magikarp can jump over a mountain on rare occasions, and the one that says it can NEVER jump higher than a few feet.
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>>26802158
No one posted anime lore though.
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>>26802170
The games are not fan fiction either. Gameplay is therefore canon, if we follow that definition.
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>>26802155
Literally the BW and BW2 mew pokedex entries you fucking autist.
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>>26802155

Enjoy, Richard.
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>>26800388
>is it an interesting thread?
>no its just mewtist bait
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>>26802093
See, here's where you can say the pokemon world doesn't match up with the real world. Also it could have something to do with the actual breeding process that no one has apparently witnessed properly.
Either way Pokemon coming from eggs is canon.
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>>26802177

No. Post it.
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>>26802193

You are confuse.
Everything in the Pokédex is true.

Can't you see that?
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>>26802093
Wasn't it said that Eggs were more like cradles than actual eggs?
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>>26802236
>>26802195

Check em
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>>26802195

Give me a minute, ok.
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>>26802236
Welp, you kept the ruse going but you let it drop at the end.

6/10
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>>26802195
Thanks mate.
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>>26802236
No es fake
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>>26802219
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>>26802254

What are you talking about?
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>>26802261
>>26802266
>dexmind
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>>26802266
>>26802261


unofficial websites.
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>>26800761
Not a very high ceiling, considering its ratio to you and N.

Face it, man, your cuck dragon is a manlet.
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>>26802275
Well I guess we just kill this thread
Check em
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>>26800388
I agree with this. Eggs are a mechanic for the games to help the player with trading and battling. Honedge is a literal sword, which has been overcome by a spirit. A manmade sword hatching from an egg is ridiculous.
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>>26800877
So you're saying the games are not canon?

The logical explanation is that the sword that hatches from the egg is possesed by honedge the moment the egg hatches
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>>26802308
Or that it's a Pokemon that resembles a sword in the same way there are bugs that resemble sticks.
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>>26802275
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>>26802324
Was about to post it.
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>>26802324
>>26802334
He's not going back or just keep pulling the same
>Some things in the game are non canon. Example: Honedge hatching from an egg

I just had the mental image of the guy crouching alone in a corner avoiding any kind of human contact.
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You people seem to forget that everything written in the pokedex is written by humans in the pokemon world after their experiences with pokemon, it may not be accurate because we can't know everything about these pokemon, it's an on-going investigation in the games and it might never stop, the pokedex is ALWAYS being updated.
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>>26802356
If this was the real Richard I think he'd be bested, but since this is a troll pretending to be Richard it will continue.
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>>26802360
So what you're saying is that the Pokedex is highly inaccurate.
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>>26802298

Everything in the Pokédex is true.
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>>26802360
So you could make the argument that besides the original 151, the rest are not canon cause they weren't in the rgby pokedex?
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>>26802308

I'm saying that the Pokédex is true.
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>>26802382
>>26802398
Then answer this

>>26802324
>>26802334
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>>26802334

Both of the Pokédex entries are true.
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>>26802404


They are both right.
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>>26802407
They contradict themselves. Slugma sleeps near magma or never sleeps, is the one or the other, nor both.

If you choose either, you discard the other as false, therefore, the Pokédex isn't always true.
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>>26802407
>>26802419
They both can't be true because they contradict each other.
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>>26802376

Ok.
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>>26802424
>>26802420

They are both right.
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>>26802438
Explain how then, the burden of proof is on you this time.
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>>26802360
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>>26802442
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>>26802463
So the Pokedex is automatically wrong then.
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>>26802446
>>26802463
That doesn't prove anything. The entries contradict each other.
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>>26802473

No. It's always right.
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>>26802478
But the entries contradict each other, Richard.

How can a Pokemon never sleep, but also sleep?
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>>26802477

It does prove something.
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>>26802478
What's your proof that it's always right ? It could record false information.
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>>26802484

It's like Mew and Arceus.

Mew is the ancestor of all Pokémon species and Arceus was born alone before the Universe.
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>>26802502

Those two have nothing to do with this.

Slugma can never sleep. But Slugma also sleep.

How do you resolve that?
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>>26802493

It can't, since. The Pokédex always get updates.
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>>26802510
So it gets updates because the past entries were wrong ? So you admit that at some point, the pokédex was wrong ?
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>>26802380
Exactly, it's up to the trainers who want to complete the pokedex to piece everything together and understand the origins of each pokemon by themselves, there's no other way to know, and even if you complete the pokedex, there will be more pokemon species discovered that will interact with already discovered species, which means the pokedex WILL ALWAYS NEED TO BE UPDATED
>>26802386
RBY are canonically really early in the games timeline, it was a time where we, the players in the Kanto region did not know about pokemon species besides the ones in Kanto because our technology didn't allowed us to know, Kanto is a small rural region, it makes sense.
Eventually Oak wanted to get his ass off his chair in his office and actually advance the investigation of the pokedex and went to the Sinnoh region, by being there and having a national pokedex, the Kanto region now knew about pokemon from other regions and logically the pokedex entries were updated.
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>>26801440
But it does. In the game itself not the autistic dex honedge comes from eggs. You literally cannot disprove that you turbo autist.
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>>26802502
Mew is never actually confirmed to be the ancestor of all pokemon, it's always "believed" or "said" to be.
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>>26802515
No. It gets updated to see more new Pokémon species.
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>>26802527

Look at my post with Rayquaza.
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>>26802484
>>26802508
Not him, since he can't answer for shit.

But after a brief thought, the Slugma that are lucky to live at any time near magma can get sleep since the heat in the enviroment will protect them. Trained or stray Slugma that aren't that lucky, can get sleep for the LACK of heat in the enviroment.

Now, Mew cannot learn Starter exclusive moves (Elemental Hyperbeam variants and the Pledges) and neither Draco Meteor.
Machamp cannot get Mach Punch via breeding.
Snorlax doesn't fall sleep after just eating because we can use it in battle.
Hydreigon isn't a murder machine, just look at Pokémon Amie.
Eevee "adaptation to the enviroment" is false since the very first evolutions are artificially triggered, and the most recent is a thing that "Eevee loves you".

And so on.
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>>26802521

not everything in the games are part of Pokémon lore.
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>>26802398
The pokedex is not entirely true retard, in this case the pokedex is not entirely correct, it was probably written by some retarded fat fuck literally who pokemon professor to fill space in the pokedex entries and get paid for doing so, your job as a trainer is to actually fucking see with your own eyes how pokemon are born with the use pokemon breeding and eventually update the pokedex with your information.
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>>26802583
>Slugma that aren't that lucky, CAN'T

I made a mess.
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IT'S BEEN THREE

AND A HALF

HOURS

WHY ARE YOU STILL RESPONDING STOP IT
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>>26802585
Specifically the pokedex.
Glad you finally agree with us.
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>>26802595

It is true. You are just confuse.
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GUYS THE POKEDEX IS ALWAYS RIGHT THIS POKEMON HAS ONE THOUSAND ARMS LEARN TO COUNT FAGGOTS
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>>26802585
You are not one to decide what pokemon lore is, do you not understand that?
Give me a single good reason that we should take the pokedex as the lore and not the atual game that we actually play?
Yes the pokedex automatically detects pokemon and what not but it is a man made object, no man made object is perfect, all man made objects have mistakes. Your holy pokedex is a man mode object that has different entries that contradict one another so it is not something to trust. There is no legit mew that can learn crabhammer.

You are wrong. Go and drink bleach
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>>26802604
Eh, I just jumped in because I was bored.
Richard threads are funny.

We could always change the topic
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>>26802607

The Pokédex is canon.
>>
>>26802604
This is /vp/ its slow as fuck and there isn't much else to post on unless you're willing to circlejerk with turbo autists
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>>26802617

The Pokédex is always right.

The Pokédex is canon.
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>>26800919
The deepest?
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>>26802585
Everything in the games IS the pokemon lore.

I know you're baiting, but the anime, the manga, the spin off games are nothing but fan fiction written by other people, NOT BY GAMEFREAK and aproved by the pokemon company, NOT GAMEFREAK (the ones who make the fucking games) to milk the franchise.
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>>26802655
I know you're trolling but show me a citation of this autistic bullshit

Because the gameworld is canon.
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>>26802667

No. It is not.

Are You saying that May actually meet Game freak?
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>>26802690

I don't troll.
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>>26802610
Again, baiting, but let me get this point straight for anyone wondering.
Even if the pokedex updates automatically, the entires were written by a person that interacted with pokemon and obtained their information that was put in their entries, the pokedex just can't know everything for itself, it's just a fucking man-made machine.
So the info in the pokedex may or not be accurate, it's up to the trainer to see if it's true or not and update it.
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>>26802712
Yes, why wouldn't she met GF? the gamefreak guys are characters that appear in every game, i see nothing wrong with that.
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>>26802740

So Red actually met Game freak?
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>>26802722

The Pokédex get updates.
It's impossible for it to be wrong.
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>>26802719
Yeah because you have actualy autism
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>>26803000
ALL YOU HAD TO DO WAS NOT FUCKING RESPOND AND THE THREAD WOULD HAVE DIED YOU LITTLE SHIT
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>>26803000

It's just that some people don't understand how complex the Pokédex is.

It's not the Pokédex that is wrong.

It's some of things in the games that are wrong and non-canon.
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>>26802796
Yes?
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>>26803124

No. Prove Red did.
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>>26803205
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ITT: Replace all instances of pokedex with the Bible/Koran
Entire new shitshow starts
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>>26803215
It hasn't been officially confirm by Game freak.
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>>26800447
underated
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>>26803361
IT'S IN THE GAME THEY DESIGNED
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>>26800388
A Honedge can be created by a spirit inhabiting a sword, but it can ALSO be created through reproduction. It isn't rocket science. It doesn't say "This pokemon is ONLY born when a departed spirit inhabits a sword", nor does it say that it does not come from an egg.

Case closed.
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>>26804212

That's non-canon to the plot of the story.

Red nevers shows game freak, his pokédex that he completed.
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>>26804290

Ok. I guess, I'll wait for future Pokédex entries to see what's possible.
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>>26804294
Prove that it's not a canon plot of the story.

All things in the games, unless stated by Gamefreak or within the games themselves, are canon.
>>
Hold on mates. Let's consider the Pokedex as a definite source of objective information. Now, let's remind ourselves that years and years ago, the Greek pantheon was objectively correct, and the earth was objectively flat. The entire philosophy of science is to find a statement that is truer than the last. Now, even the Pokedex entry in OP's pic is unsure, as it uses the word "apparently", suggesting a lack of substantial evidence to prove or disprove. Honedge born of a spirit embedded in a sword is purely ancedotal, especially when we (for the purpose of the argument) physically observe a sentient sword hatching from an egg that we recieve from unknown suspicious activity from leaving two mons alone together. The Pokedex descriptions are most likely observations or hypotheses recorded by others.
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>there is someone this autistic about Pokedex entries

I guess I'm on /vp/, so it's not surprising.
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>>26804755
Its probably just folklore
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Why isn't there a main series game that lets you write your own entries/notes already? I mean, the Pokedex is already filled with OP bullshit, it might as well just let me write in my own bullshit already.
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>>26804931

Everything in the Pokédex is true.
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>>26804755

It's facts.
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>>26804322

Prove it is.
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>>26802446
>>26802463
You said only the Pokedex is canon, why are you using overworld dialouge to prove that? Do you not see the problem?
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>>26805822
Does it happen in the games?
Yes.
Therefore, it is canon to the games.
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Consider the following: The first Honedge came about by a spirit possessed a sword. More Honedge came about when that particular pokemon started breeding with others.
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>>26807753
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>>26801384
>it's
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>>26805822
Burden of proof falls on the accuser, you are the accuser, therefor you must find the proofs now
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>>26808246

Burden of proof actually falls on the positive statement. In this case, Pokedex entries are infallible, all of the content is canon.

Prove it.
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