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PTCG/O General: 7 Edition

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New? Check the pastebin for advice on starting the game, client information, a guide on the various theme decks/products you can redeem in-game and more.
>http://pastebin.com/gPEnw6GW

You can also check this FAQ:
http://i.imgur.com/HoY1IaG.jpg

How to progress in PTCGO, tl;dr edition:
>complete all Trainer Challenges (Cheat Engine's speedhack strongly recommended to speed up AI games)
>play through using Basic decks to unlock them for versus play
>farm Versus Mode theme ladder for Tokens and Tournament Tickets
>Enter Theme format tournaments whenever possible
>enter Standard/Expanded ticket tournaments and accept that you'll lose
>you'll get tradable tournament chests and sometimes tradable packs
>DON'T OPEN THEM
>Instead, trade them for the cards you actually want for a deck you want to build, most cards go for like 1-3 packs each.
>Public trade is like the GTS, if you want proper results, put up your own offers.
>if you don't know what deck you want to build yet, see http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/forum/tcg-competitive-play.156/ or check out tournament results for a list of viable decks http://www.pokemon.com/us/play-pokemon/state-province-championships-2016/decks/week-four/

To see what your PTCGO stuff is worth, look on the PTCGO forums in the trading section. Top Cut & other big trading companies will typically overprice cards, expect to get lower
>http://forums.pokemontcg.com/forum/33-in-game-item-exchange/

Tips for Code Giveaways:
>Post them as an image with the QR code covered. Don't just post it as plain text because of bots lurking threads

>Your Old Cards
No one wants them

Old: >>???

Tott: 7 hours to go.
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ded.
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Assuming it is Steam Up Volcanion-EX in the fall tin and not a new card, building the 8 Volcanion deck will be pretty cheap thanks to regular Volcanion also being in a theme deck.
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>>26765127
>mfw Greninja Break is now going for 20 bucks
I'm glad I bought three for 12 each 3 months ago.
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Should I use Emboar-EX for my Pyroar deck?
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I fucking hate fighting challenges. The decks are all so all-in that people fold once you get going. What is a good deck to rip through a damage and a ko challenge at the same time?
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>>26766812
Medicham

It's fragile enough to give hope of a counterattack
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So with what type of deck would a M-Ray EX go well with?
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>>26765127

Thank you so much anon
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>>26766971
Man I fucking love exploiting Medicham's double yoga kick. I didn't even know there was a common deck around it; I got it randombly, decided to try it out, and it was just a matter of time before it became my favorite card and made decks around it.
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>>26769629
list?

How soon after this ends does the ladder update. I have three hours to burn before a flight here.
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>>26769847
Just rotated now.

The ladder has:
>FF Mienshao
>PC Medicham
>PC Groudon-EX
>Full art Maxie's
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A simple 1 part Speed Ray challenge
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>>26769921
Or I can scream KNEEL BEFORE YOUR GOD at the next unlucky sap on the versus ladder.
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is it worth to try and grind to the end of the ladder for maxies hidden ball trick?
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>>26770167
I would say no and use trades as proof but there's just no listings right now. Probably still pretty worthless and a waste of time to get it.
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>>26767053
Colorless.
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Any good strategy against this piece of shit? (that isn't another EX).
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>>26770398
Pumpkaboo.
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>>26770398
Hit it really really hard
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>>26770167
It's worth like 2-3 FC packs.
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>>26770398
Regice ',:^)
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>>26770398
Meme march
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>>26770398
Raichu bats has a good match up against night march and damage change Mewtwo right?
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>>26770761
>Night March
Nope, you're an inherently slower deck.

>Mewtwo
HAHAHA
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Does Raticate breaks hyper fang count towards the 300 coin challenge?
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>>26770797
Care to explain on the mewtwo match up? I do not understand what you are trying to say friend
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>>26771037
To kill a Mewtwo EX with FFB attached you need all eight (8) benched Pokemon + Muscle Band + Golbat + Crobat (230 damage) OR + a second Golbat (220 damage).

And if you can't hit that perfect number, it's all coming off and taking a Raichu, or whatever's active, with it.
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Bink
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I love how I lose the opening coin toss every time I flip but my opponent loses every time they flip.
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Pretty pleased today, found a Mew box for £9 mainly because I wanted the card + badge.

Got a few nice pulls from the packs too.
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>>26770797
>nightmarch
>slower than anything
What? When did that become a thing?

I know you technically cap at 180 or something, but you have Mew who can make you hit 240 with just 6 night marchers.
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>>26772909
You're reading it backwards.

Raichu is the deck to which I was referring as being slower than Night March.
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>>26772971
Oh true, my mistake
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>>26771090
Raichu bats best bet is to win the prize exchange by crippling Mewtwo with the threat of 2 hit kos
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>>26773066
>2 hit kos
>Mewtwo EX
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>>26773105
Yes, damage change can only shave off 90 hp per raichu or 130 per crobat
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>>26773423
Does Damage Change not remove all damage from it if the Defending Pokemon has no damage on it?
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>Get my first Shaymin EX
>Public Offers in trade become utter garbage
sadness
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>>26773423
>Does Damage Change not remove all damage from it if the Defending Pokemon has no damage on it?

Damage change does remove all damage counters from mewtwo and move them to the defending pokemon. I was wrong my bad. It was just so op i couldn't believe it.
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i don't need them
have fun
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>>26765127
why is my PTCGO app crashing?
it loads for 5 seconds and then crashes.
I downloaded it again, and reinstalled. nothing
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im new to this
where can i find speedhack?
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>>26770398
pyroar
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>>26775250
Probably because PTCGO is generally trash. With all due respect, of course.
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>>26775267
Download cheatengine.
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>Building expanded deck
>Buying singles for said deck off of eBay
>Some dude selling 3 Virbank City Gym cards for 5.50 each or Best Offer
>Offer him 4 for each
>Declined
>Offer 4.50 for each
>Declined
>Finally offer 5 for each
>Counteroffers with 5.25 for each
>Find a guy selling 2 for 9.95
>Find another dude selling 1 for 4.95
>Buy those instead
Why the fuck put up an item for sale with the Best Offer option if you are just going to deny every offer except for more than the other sellers are asking for?
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>>26775250
Assuming you're running windows

>Uninstall the game
>Go into your AppData (Disk/User/-You-/ Appdata)
>This folder may be hidden, if it is show hidden folders
>You'll find three folders there
>In each delete anything with pokemon in the name (May be PKMN or something like that)
>Empty your recycle bin
>Reinstall PTCGO
>should work
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>>26777587
I made on offer of $15 on a listing for $17. It got declined right away.
Why the fuck would you set up auto declines for $2 less?
Like it's not something thats just natrually a part of best offers on ebay. you have to type in the amount under which it will auto decline
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>>26777836
Might as well just make it buy it now.
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>>26766809
You shouldn't use Emboar or Pyroar.
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>>26769994
Wow this deck is shit
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>rebirth Ho-Oh will never be reprinted

This makes me sad, it was a great gimmick
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>>26779930
Two different gimmicky Ho-Oh EX's isn't enough for you?
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Won a 24 tournament ticket standard tournament with Mega Rayquqaza EX/Jolteon EX. Posting list and noteworthy pulls.
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>>26780384
Just noticed I'm not playing an AZ, would also like an escape rope in there too. -1 float stone and I'll have to find more room.
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>>26780427
Overall Haul. 2 Roaring Skies is nice. I'll open all the single packs first.
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>>26780435
Only good pull from Break Point, Ancient Origins, XY, Breakthrough, Furious Fists, and Phantom forces combined. Good thing I saved the best for last. Roaring Skies next!
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>>26780492
JACKPOT! Hopefully I can trade this few a few legacy cards. I'd really like some celebi prime.
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>>26780522
Off to a good start for Fates Collide
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>>26780548
Not the best FA, but FA
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>>26780560
Needed one more of these
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>>26780564
Last pack, needed one more of these too. Good haul overall!
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24 ticket Legacy when?
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>get Zygarde box
>the fucking promo has the galaxy holo all over the card

The English company can go fuck themselves with this shit QC.
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http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?gcode=CGM-5242&page=top%2Fsearch%2Flist%3Fs_keywords%3Dpokemon+20+pack+box%24pagemax%3D40%24getcnt%3D0%24pagecnt%3D1
>Release Date: mid Jun-2016
This is guaranteed not 1st edition, right?
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>>26781222
>This is guaranteed not 1st edition, right?

Since Wild Blaze was released in 2014, I think that's a definite "yes" in regards to that question.
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I can't never get to the end of the ladder. Do all wins only give 10-15 points?
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It's really hard to win a match on this game since everybody concedes.
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>>26783243
Yes. I finally got to make a good deck and this is probably going to be the first ladder I'll get to the end. Keep going, anon.
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Holy shit how I fucking hate meme march. It's just no fucking fun allowed.
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>>26784643
Play Latios donk for a nice 99% win ratio against it, Frogs and Garchomp.
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ded thred
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>>26784660
Someone rekt me with that the other day and I couldn't stop laughing. Got a list?
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Cleaning my room and found these weird things from McDonalds circa 2012. Tell me if they work. Says they unlock a FREE 60-card deck and avatar item.
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Standard ladder is absolutely stuffed full of Trevenant BREAK decks.

Myself included. No rugrats.
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>>26786652
Yeah but they aren't so difficult to win.
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>>26787273
I got dodrio-kangaskhan. I'll post pulls later.
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Anyone here have a stardust jirachi they want to trade? I need two.
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>>26787722
Why did EX pokemon have to be the only ones with mega evolutions?
It would even make thematic sense to allow mega evolutions to regular pokemon in their second stage, as there is supposed to be a strong bond between trainer and pokemon, and what better way of forming a bond than going through the process of evolving a pokemon twice.
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>>26772868
That Zapdos. I have to get that. Beautiful...
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>>26788429
Because they wanted Megas to be playable.
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>>26784620
It's so fucking annoying. Whenever I get challanges about knocking out a certain amount of pokemon, it takes more battles than it should because people almost always quit after one of their EX or legendaries get defeated.
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>>26784620
>>26789492
>make mega ray deck for colorless challenge
>go second every time
>they concede THE INSTANT I'm set up to KO their starting pokemon

Mega Ray is just the worst
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>>26789733
True, but if it bumps this dead thread, it's not a big deal.
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>>26770398
lel, i always fuck this faggot with motherfucking Garchomp
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Any idea how to integrate the new Aereodactyl with normal types?
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>>26789831
You don't.
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>>26789733
I care more than I care about your opinion
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>>26787273
>>26787392
You know the thread is dead when a code dump goes 6 hours without someone taking the first code. I'm really glad it's dead though.
>28 Roaring Skies
>21 Primal Clash
>5 Breakthrough
>4 Ancient Origins
>3 Plasma Blast
>3 Plasma Freeze
>1 Plasma Storm
>1 Next Destinies
>1 Noble Victories
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>>26790299
This is all I'm opening, one EX is good enough. The rest of the packs go towards building M-Alakazam and Metal Genesect decks.
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>>26790299
>1 anon took almost all codes
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>>26790411
Thanks for posting at least 1 ex pull.
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>>26790299
FUCK
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>>26790452
Why wouldn't I? I did this in thirds, 5 minutes after it was posted, then 2 hours after that, then 3 hours after that.
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>>26790487
I just thought there would be more people interested, although I know there were a lot of old codes.

Have a nice day fellow anon.
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>>26790299
>Taking all the codes
>not opening all the packs
How's it feel to be a scumbag?
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Can anyone post a deck list for a decent steel deck?
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>>26791715
Look up Genesect toolbox, got second in Italy.
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>Make Typhlosion deck just for fun
>Ended up spending 122 tickets
>Won all tournaments

Damn I made the deck because the idea sounded ridiculous and it would break boredom but man this is amazing.
So many people bitching about hacking and cheating after their EXs got 400 damage down their throats.
I am more motivated to try crazy decks outside the meta. Next step: Swampert EX.
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>>26788429
The real problem is that they cemented EX Pokemon as a permanent mechanic in the TCG. It's not like Megas are a temporary concept like ATs or SP Pokemon.
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>>26792204
What did your Typhlosion list look like?
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>>26792655
I have no problem with this.
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>>26793052
4-2-4 line of typhlosion
30 energies
4 rare candies
4 VS Seekers
4 Skyla
4 N
2 Lysandre
2 Teammates

I think I could improve by adding super rods or other helpful items but lets be honest, this deck is for gambling addicts due to having no knowledge of what you are discarding. Ence the big number o key supporters plus 4 VS seekers.
Im using N instead of Sycamore due to heavy energy presence, and late in game you want every energy in the deck.

>>26792655
I love EX since they make the game faster by taking 2 prizes instead of one. Plus when you take out a key EX the most likely is having your opponent forfeit.
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>>26787273
I tried (I'm sure it was before that other anon claimed them all for them), but it didn't accept any code. It always processes them without the first "-". Is that normal? Do I just type them in capitals with the corresponding "-"s?
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>>26793415
you don't need the "-" make sure there are no spaces and it isn't cap sensitive.
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>>26793415
The last letter/number was cut off of every code. You need to add 1 letter/number to the end.
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>>26793516
>>26793622
Thanks a lot, I'll keep it in mind next chance.
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>>26770398
It's called "Twisted Spoon". Look it up.
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How good is this pull? This Gengar doesn't seem to be strong really. I'm quite new to tcg.
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>>26794086
All garbage
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>>26794086
It could make for a really annoying deck
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Are the best boosters to gamble on objectively Roaring Skies, Plasma Freeze, and [s]Generations[/s]?
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>>26794705
Wait what the fuck? Did they change the spoiler tags, or am I just really fucking high?
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>>26794336
Pretty much this. I pulled the same gar out a physical pack the other day. Neat looking card (I fucking love PHF's Janemba jellybean aesthetic), but it's not very useful.
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>>26765127
Aside from bringing 8 hammer + Grunts and deleting all their colorless energy straight away, is there a consistent way to beat night march?
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>>26794705
Plasma Freeze has the least chance for big bucks but the highest payouts, at 200, 70, and a few 20-30.
Roaring Skies has an easier chance at a payout but the jackpot is lower at 60, 50, and two 30's, only one being secret rare.
Generations has only two money cards in it, both are regular ultra rare in a set with higher ratios at 30-40 each, so it's easier to hit but the payout is less and many other ultra rares can pay the value of the pack.
Phantom Forces has one money card at 30, which is secret rare, but it also has two uncommons at 10 dollars and 5-7 dollars apiece, so buying those packs can actually yield the highest profit overall.
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I pulled this a little while ago.
Is it any good?
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>>26794903
>Generations has only two money cards
Oh, which other card besides Jolteon? Is it Charizard because Charizard?

Also, that one secret rare in RSK is one that'll only appreciate.

Honorary mentions go to Plasma Blast and Ancient Origins I suppose. Love me some SR Trainers.
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>>26795116
Rare Candy isn't that expensive and PB's other ultra rares are all cheap to middling except Jirachi. AO's most exspensive card is Trainer's Mail and it's less than 30, most of the rest of the set is very cheap.

VS Seeker will only appreciate if it gets reprinted.
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>>26795144
>VS Seeker will only appreciate if it gets reprinted.

You mean, if it continues to be reprinted.
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>>26795174
Ultra Ball was less than a hundred for a long while. On release if I remember correctly it wasn't even that pricey. Only until it got so many reprints that it would stick around forever did it spike. Same will be true for VS Seeker.
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>>26795203
You're correct, I just misunderstood what you meant.
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>>26795116

>Is it Charizard because Charizard?

It is practically a cardinal rule of Pokemon TCG, if it is a Charizard it will worth than anything else with the same rarity in a set maybe except the Generation Radiant Collection one

>>26795203

ScR Ultra Ball was around $30~40 when it first came out since everyone was all over Deoxys EX when Plasma Freeze first came out
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>>26793116
Wouldn't an Energy Recycler or Super Rod be helpful? Hell, I'd drop two energy for both of those due to both your low basic count and the likelihood of discarding pivotal cards.

>>26794903
>200
What the fuck card from Plasma Freeze is $200? SR Ultra Ball?
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>>26795458

>SR Ultra Ball?

The one and only
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>>26794889
Item lock.
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>>26795018
In any EX heavy deck, sure.
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>>26795487
>bought a box of PLF from a toy store that was going out of business
>it was missing six packs but hadn't been weighed since it had been behind the counter the whole time
>open the 30 packs
>FA Heatran
>Heatran
>Rock Guard
>Heatran
>Life Dew
>FA Heatran
I hope some kid who knew how to take care of cards got something awesome in those first six packs, because holy shit.
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>>26795540

I would assume those packs were mixed from leftover packs since there is very little chance of you would open 2 of the same EXs (and 2 of the same FAs) back then from the same sealed box as the pulls weren't that generous Pre-LTR/XY

I opened a ScR Ultra Ball from a single-pack Promo blister back when PLF first came out
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>>26795340
Nope, Generations is worth more too. I traded in four of them the other week for more than a buck a piece. Was worth more than the recent White Kyurem.

>>26795653
I've been going for those blisters recently. Is this the one with Next Destinies, Plasma Blast and Plasma Freeze?
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I got a zygarde collection and got a genesectEX, and that figure, which is pretty neato. But i also got this meowth, and it's holographic all the way through, what's up with that? Is that normal?
Also, post pulls from this code if you could.
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>>26769847
A bit late but this is the deck I'm using right now.
Pinsir and Simisage are other cards I absolutely love.
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>>26777656
thanks but MacBook ;_;
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>>26789733
I think you cared a little bit. At least I posted a list. Here, have another, brother. I picked this one because you seem to be having a rough time dealing with all that salt in your love crevice.
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>>26798464
>>26798464
this is the worst deck ive ever seen
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Has there ever been a deck as dominant as Haymaker in the TCG?

pls no bully i know my fone is shit
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>>26796128
Yes. It's a fake. Congrats.
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>>26803456
It's not fake you cunt, they are errors.
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>>26770398
Regice. Probably Lugia Ex as well
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>>26803558
Here all the non-EX ways to counter Mewtwo's damage change attack:

>Regice AOR
>Pumpkaboo PHF
>Bent Spoon
>Pyroar FLF

That's it.
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>>26803558
>>26803596
Regice, Spoon, and Pyroar don't counter it. When Mewtwo uses Damage Swap against a target that isn't affected, all the damage counters on Mewtwo still get removed, they just don't get moved onto the target.

And since neither Regice nor Pyroar can OHKO Mewtwo, it ends up in a stalemate.
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>>26803432
Haymaker had a handful of viable alternatives. Sabledonk did not.
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>>26803646
>Haymaker had a handful of viable alternatives.
Pfft, no.
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>>26803616
Then the only answer is Pumpkaboo. This is also the only actually correct answer since Night March is the reason Mewtwo EX never gained traction.
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>>26803672
Wiggly was arguably a better deck.
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>>26803696
And gets oneshot by Hitmonchan.
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>>26803702
>Hitmonchan with 3 energies
That's not how the deck worked.
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Game 1
>5 turns in a row no energy
>Even Sycamore and Shaymins drawing cards

Game 2
>No basic Pokemon redraw 6 times
>Finally get one basic Pokemon and the rest of the hand is energy
>Draw my only two Shaymins in a row which are next to no use due to hand full of energy I can't get rid of and they draw VS seekers anyway

Game 3
>Starting hand consists of 1 basic, 3 sycamores and 3 vs seekers first draw is Lysandre

Game 4
>No basic Pokemon redraw starting hand 3 times
>I'm just going to concede

Guess that shows me for having a winning streak yesterday guess I was progressing too fast, never seen this shit in the physical card game.
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>>26803717
Yes it is. Lead with Scyther because
>fire types that aren't magmar
and see what threats the opponent has. If they have water stuff then they're playing Rain Dance, so you go for your Electabuzz. If they don't, go for Hitmonchan/Scyther.

Base-Rocket is a solved meta. The only way Wiggly even has a slight edge on Haymaker is if we have access to Vending Machine cards because Hypno.
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>>26803759
By the time vending would have come out, Haymaker was rarely running Electabuzz anymore. Most of them had long since switched to Magmar to counter Scyther or Promo Mewtwo to counter Hitmonchan, because those were far more common than Rain Dance.

Wigglytuff was the primary Haymaker counter, because it could come out in two turns and OHKO 70HP mons with Pluspower. The deck usually operated by throwing Hitmonchans and Scythers at the opponent until mid-game when the ERs had started to dry up a bit.

If we're going all the way from Base-Rocket, trainer lock also saw play.
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>>26802497
Why is that?
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>>26804538
Not him, but you really should check out the FAQ in the OP:
http://i.imgur.com/HoY1IaG.jpg

The biggest issues are the lack of focus, the mixing of many wildly different concepts, the wild ratios, the severe lack of critical staples, and some very questionable tech choices given all the previous points.
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>>26804538
Where to start...

>Pokemon
Get rid of the grass stuff. It's all worthless. Focus purely on Medicham and powering up. The best cards to do this are Carbink BREAK and Landorus (from Fates Collide and Furious Fists respectively).

>Supporters
Tierno is not a good draw supporter compared to Professor Sycamore, which should be in your deck in counts of 3 or 4. N should be in there as well, at least 2. PCL is unnecessary, as is Fan Club. Now that you're focusing on Medichamp, you can afford to run 4 Korrina to help you grab Pokemon and items. Which, speaking of,

>Items
Bump the Evoosoda the 2, as well as the Professor's Letter. Add in a playset of Ultra Ball and at least 1 or 2 Battle Compressor.

>Stadiums
Cut Faded Town and bump Fighting Stadium to 2. And add in 2 Scorched Earth.

>Tools
Bump Muscle Band to 3 and Focus Sash to 2. Cut Energy Pouch, Hard Charm and Bent Spoon, they're gimmicky.

>Energy
Cut the DCE and grass, bump Strong Energy to 4.

>anything else
Since Korrina outs you any Trainer, you're free to play around with your selection, but all of the above decisions are on point. If anyone else points anything out that I'm forgetting, that would also be great.
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>>26804637
Also include a playset of VS Seeker, which would allow you then to run more 1-of supporter's like Hex Maniac.

And to clarify, a playset means 4.
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>>26804569
>>26804637
>>26804661
Thanks a whole lot for the advise.
I started out making decks that worked against EX pokemon (I usually use the other Bouffalant but this one was for Standard tournaments), but as time went on I put more emphasis on Medicham. I've been wanting to go all out with Medicham and turbo Carbink looks interesting. Will give it a try.

>Battle Compressor
I never understood this one. What's the point unless you are using that annoying Joltik strategy?
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>>26805076
>turbo Carbink
*Carbink break
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>>26805076
Battle Compressor lets you do 2 things
>fill your graveyard with Strong and Fighting Energy to use with Carbink BREAK and Landorus
>put 1-of supporters in your discard pile like Hex Maniac or Delinquent that you can tutor out with VS Seeker
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Is this card cheap? I've run into decks made up entirely of EX pokemon that couldn't do anything against it and had to quit (some got madder than others).
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>>26805996

it's irrelevant against half or more of the meta

the mere existence of hex maniac makes it less valuable, even against EXs

it was a much stronger power back on sigilyph and suicune
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>>26805996
>not rare
>not ultra rare
>not secret rare
>not trainer

Worthless garbage
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>>26804637
>>26804661
Holy shit it's working. I can't believe how well these cards complement each other.
I'm starting to like the brown genie.
Thanks again.

>>26805171
I see, it can make cards available. I still haven't been able to use it to my advantage, but it's good to know.
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>>26806074
>>26806260
That makes the time it single-handedly made me win funnier.
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Thoughts?
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>>26806846
>SIXTEEN (16) Fire Energy
You can't be serious.
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This ladder is so shit. I'm only bothering doing it for collection's sake.
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>>26807770
3+6/3+3+3/6+6 energy cards on set up Delphox, and also you need 2 on Entei and/or at least 3 on another Delphox line.

After some testing I found that I can't draw Fennekin AND Ultra Ball for shit.
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>>26805996
> decks made up entirely of EX pokemon
Nobody does that on competitive play.
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Anyone here have any luck playing the android release of PTCGO on a Kindle?
How does it run? What model Kindle are you using?

I've been looking for a cheap tablet, if anyone else has any recommendations.
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>>26806846
Nice draw supports you have there
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Just started tcgo, what is the cheapest standard deck?
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>>26810555
That's on the tier list? Greninja Break, Wailord stall, or Garchomp, since all three can afford to leave out Shaymin.

That isn't competitive? Literally anything, there are no non-cosmetic Standard cards that cost more than 1-2 RS outside of Shaymin and Jolteon.
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>>26810555
Night March
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>>26806846
trash/10
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anyone have a link to the installer to the client?

Switched computers and the download link isn't working http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-tcg/play-online/download/

Did they update the client?
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>>26777905
no fucking shit sherlock. That's what makes it so good to win with.
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>>26798860
update your OS to the latest version of El Capitan. a recent patch of PCTGO stopped supporting some versions of Yosemite in their almighty wisdom.
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>Copy pasting in codes sometimes cuts off the last letter


THIS CLIENT IS FUCKING QUALITY.
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>All non-Theme decks rendered unplayable due to the update.

Well, that's a first for me.
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>Keep wanting to get back into this
>Go play a match or CPU
>get energy blocked from the get go and pass every turn while I watch my stupid no energy mons get pummeled
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>>26812969
set up mons on your bench with a wall in the first few turns
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so the change to Korrina has fucked one match for me so far.
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>>26812989
I've gone 10+ turns without any energy save for 1 or 2 in my opening hand too many times to count. That is how the overwhelming majority of my matches go. I know it happens in MTG too but It was nowhere near this often, and I had the same energy to deck ratio as I always do in MTG.
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>>26813078
What
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>>26812969
Most decks run anywhere from 4 to 12 energy. But, essential to this, they also run a shit ton of draw power to ensure they connect with their energy.
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>>26813111
I think the patch changes the way multicard searches work when the cards fit into different categories: ie fighting pokemon and trainers. You do it all at once instead of picking one and then the other.
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>>26813125
the preconstructed decks kill me with their seeming unreliability to draw energy. other than that, its probably mostly just that I'm garbage and haven't invested anywhere near as much time into this as I have MTG
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>>26813149
The preconstructed theme decks are garbage and are meant to play like garbage to teach 6 year olds how to play the game. Actual decks are built nothing like them.
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>open the client
>game patches
>finishes patching
>press play
>client starts patching again
>repeat endlessly
How do I fix this?
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>>26813233
Reinstall
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does the person have to be online in order to make a private trade?
everytime i try to make one it says the user doesnt exist
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Anyone else not won the coin toss in a week unless your opponent loses it?
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>>26814662
Just keep picking tail, it wins 99% of the times.
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anyone here trading their greninja breaks? if so post what you want and see if i can statisfy
im looking for 2 of them
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>run 7 energy
>N
>6 energy
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>>26814840
It's great when you somehow repeatedly draw all your energy over and over again.
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>>26814840
Holy fucking shit it happened again. Did the update fucking break the game?
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Just fucking once I'd like to go first, not have the same worst possible hand, and not watch my opponent play the best possible hand while flipping heads on all possible flips.
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>4 tourneys in a row losing to going second and dying to laserbank, not being able to wake up

Love this game.
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>>26815671
>new player learns the importance of a rotation and why standard is the only viable format: the post
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>>26815685
>new player

Kill yourself. I'd rather deal with lasers than item lock since I never go first and my opponent perfectly sets up every game. At least in legacy I have a chance.
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Don't run the reverse holo and the regular version of the same card in your deck or it will mess up anything that has multiple selections(super rod, battle compressor, water duplicates, junk hunt, brigette).
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>>26815708
>old saltlord fails to understand the importance of a rotation and why standard is the only viable format: the post
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>tfw beating Night March with a Mega Blastoise deck
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>it's a 'people bitch about rng' thread

I'll see you nerds later.
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Heads, up, you can't super rod back more than one copy of a pokemon. If you try, you get this fun bug of the card adding one to itself every time you add and remove it.
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>>26815841
The problem isn't super rod, it's having different versions of the same card that have the same collection number.
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>>26815841

>not wanting 18 zoroarks in your deck
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>>26815919
It doesn't actually add anything to the deck/discard. I already tried a bee revenged after doing it and no damage was added. The only effect it has is soft locking you if you don't have 4 other pokemon when you sacred ash.
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anyone trading their greninja break?
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>>26784620
>>26789492
>>26789695
I remember some years ago that if your opponent gave up, the game didn't actually count it as a victory for you.
Those were dark times.
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>>26815142
No this is normal behavior and there is literally nothing wrong with it.
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>>26770398
Lol

>Fighting fury belt

It needs three turns for a damage change. Unless they have someway to speed this up you should outpace them.

>Mega

Stadium battle. You vs 4 shrine of memories if you take those out he can't heal.
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>>26817922
Forgot about dimension valley though...
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>can't connect to the client or the website

rest in peace pokemon
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Should I drop $200 on an Ultra Ball, or should I spend it on about a dozen of pic related? I've been buying them individually for a few weeks now, and haven't pulled anything spectacular yet (just two Moltres EX from Storm), so I'm hoping there's some goodies in the remaining stock.

Is it worth it to potentially come out with multiple FAs and SRs? I'm guessing not, since these have been on the shelf for a few years, but I'm clearly a masochist.

>tfw go out of way to buy blisters with rare packs
>es nada
>need to buy cat litter closer to home
>literal impulse buy has FA Wailord

Boosters are suffering.
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>>26818235
You'll end up with a stack of garbage EX's and one secret rare if you're lucky. Just buy the fucking Ultra Ball.
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>>26818235

buy one of the blisters just for this nigga
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>>26818291
I already have like 8 of that nigga. And then there's the coins.

The worst is the boring ass Pikachu coin from the RSK single pack blister. I shouldn't complain though, those things have a pull rate that approaches Generations-tier.

>>26818241
Y-Yeah, this is what I knew, but still don't want to accept. I should just buy the fucking card.
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>>26818330
>>26818235
Oh fuck, I forgot that coin also comes with this blister. No wonder I have so many. Fuck this coin. Pic related is vastly fucking superior.
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Cough
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>>26813186

>implying Theme isn't the most fun format for PTCGO
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>>26820659
I agree. Who doesn't like rolling a die alone in an unlit bedroom while masturbating, yelling out every time you get a six?
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Darkrai Giratina shouldn't work but it so so does.
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>>26820870

Haven't lost to it yet in 4 matches, but I haven't been playing decks prone to special energy locks/power locks.
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>>26818357
Pic related IS vastly fucking superior
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tfw you pull more full arts than holos and BREAKs

Have some code cards just because.
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Salamence-EX – Dragon – HP180
Basic Pokemon
[R][C][C] Beast Fang: 10+ damage. This attack does 50 more damage for each Pokemon-EX your opponent has in play.
[R][W][C][C] Dragon Strike: 130 damage. This Pokemon can’t use Dragon Strike during your next turn.
When a Pokemon-EX has been Knocked Out, your opponent takes 2 Prize cards.
Weakness: Fairy (x2)
Resistance: None
Retreat: 2

Seems alright if the meta shifts back to EX heavy decks.
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>>26821322
Eh. At least it uses [R] to synergize with Reshiram. Don't forget about the Mega that was announced a while ago:

[R][W][C][C] Savage Wing: 100+ damage. You may discard as many basic Fire Energy attached to this Pokemon as you like. For each Energy discarded in this way, this attack does 40 more damage.
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got this from a random pack recently. who wants the code? best lewds gets it.
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M Ray / Manaphy or M Ray / Jolteon / Zoroark?
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>>26821408
Lewd
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>>26821466
lewder
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I'm trying to get a Carbink BREAK. What should I offer for trading? How rare is it?
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>>26821550
1 pack RS, or 2 packs FC.
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>plasma freeze packs in tournaments
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>>26821470
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>Mew EX from Dragon Exalted will be back
>Mewtwo EX from Next Destinies won't

Bullshit
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>>26822251
How's the quality of the figures that come in these tcg bundles?
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>>26822363
Carcinogenic/10
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>>26822479
So pretty terrible then?
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>>26822479

>Not BannedinEU/10

>>26822521

If you are allergic to certain chemicals, yes
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>>26822251
Mew anon here. My wallet and body are ready.
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>>26822363
I know that they used to be sculpted by Kaiyodo, who did the Pokemon chess pieces and the gen 4 preorder figures. They're nice sculpts.
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>>26818235
You get Ultra Balls from decks. Get some decks with Ultra Balls.
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>>26822616
They're printing SR Ultra Balls in decks now?
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Once again, I've updated this deck to handle the Legacy meta a little better. The best part about Garbodor is that it doesn't shut down Typhlosion so there are no down sides. Over all, the deck does well when facing most decks, especially VirGen, but still struggles with dark decks.
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>>26822251
What are the chances that the figure will be replaced with a retarded giant card in EU like the other Generations stuff?
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>>26822651
Just normal Hyper Balls.
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How did I do?
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>>26822363
Both M-mewtwo , primals and mega fug are awesome and well detailed. Idk about others but m-gyarados looked like shit
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>>26824752
great senpai, Mew and DCE are good
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I remember someone on here saying these decks were good, but what makes them so good?
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>>26798860
I had the same issue, delete the cache from finder for ptcgo an reinstall the game (mb pro)
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>>26824947
They come with cards whose total value, when added together, is greater than the value of the product.
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>>26824978
even at $40? That's pretty insane if so
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>>26824947
>N
>Vs Seeker
>Prof Syc
>And four EX cards you can resell

Walmart.com i selling it for $27 unill you can find it cheaper else where
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>>26822251
When i this coming out?
I'm a sucker for Mewtwo figs and cards.

I really wish NX Mewtwo EX got reprinted
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>>26825125
At $40, no. But the MSRP is closer to $30.
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>>26825130
I live in canuck land so nothing will ever be that cheap
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>>26825156
October 3rd. Am hyped for new Mew full art.
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I redeemed the phantomforces, flashfire, and furiousfists codes (primalclash also works), do the cards just get dumped in my collection because I don't see rallying cry available as a theme deck anywhere
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Feel pretty okay for my first breakthrough pack
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>>26822966
of course it will. Americans are fine with toxic plastics, Europoor less so. Although America is the same country that banned Kinder Eggs so wtf is going on there
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>>26825598
Well, over here, tide had launch an ad campaign because people weren't watching their kids and they were eating tide pods and getting sick
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Anyone else unable to login?
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>>26825962
Nope
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huehue
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So from my experience Legacy's tier list is basically something like this.

Tier 1
>Weavile/Eggs
>CeleVirGen
>Ninetales/Amoonguss

Tier 2
>VirGen without Celebi
>Plasma
>Typhlosion/Reshiram
>RayEels/Victini
>Tool Drop
>Turbo Darkrai

Tier 3
>Sableye/Garbodor
>Zebstrika/Garbodor
>Deluge
>Deck and Cover
>Landorus

Poverty Tier
>Druddigon/Kyurem/Bouffalant/Conkeldurr

I don't think I've fought anything else. Tier 1 has answers for everything and the lower tiered decks are all walled by at least one of the tier 1 decks, making them harder to win with.
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>>26826756
Nice rice
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Sick of the rigged RNG in tournaments. 2 first round losses to all 4 attackers prized.
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>>26826782
is ninetales/amoonguss really that good?
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>>26828172
>non plasma attacker so not walled by mirror
>type advantage vs worst matchup in VirGen
>attacks for a single energy making it faster than even Weavile
>whole deck searchable via level ball
>can deal 180 with bangle and virbank out
>easiest Lysandre replacement in the tier
>can stall if it dead draws whereas Weavile and CelebiGen typically cannot
>can run either Life Dew or Computer Search
>can use Blend Energy to tech in Virizion and Sableye for Verdant Wind and Junk Hunt while not losing attacking power for Ninetales

Only reason it isn't the best is sometimes you won't draw a laser, devolution spray or evolution option, whereas CelebiGen and Weavile almost always have an out. However, when Ninetales works it works more efficiently than the other two, so it's easily tier 1.
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>>26828172
The only counter is something that is immune to status or can shutdown abilities.
It is one of the main reasons I now run a garbo in >>26822704.
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>>26828999
Garbodor doesn't stop it much since it'll still have laserbank. That and it can Bright Look out the Trubbish anyway.
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Will we ever see Kadabra again? I miss him.
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>>26829023
True, but it does slow it down.
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>>26829607
I'll bet the jews did this.
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I hate Joltik-EX SO FUCKING MUCH.
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>>26830315
>Joltik-EX
I meant Jolteon-EX. I hate it so much I misspell it.
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Finally got a complete set of Worlds gameplay items. Most are common though aside from the 2014 / 2015 sets that only Worlds players got.

What are some other rare, unique things to collect on PTCGO? Also have both Tropical Beaches, but would like some other rare stuff to work towards.
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I found a pokemon card unboxing, straight from the source:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3jQXJ8Zr14
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>>26822251
I hope the English version of the Illustration Collection will be sold separately too.

>>26825598
USA did not ban Kinder eggs specifically. They banned inedible objects inside food decades before Kinder eggs existed.
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>>26831980
For a src I thought you wrote "Kingler eggs".
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>tfw I'm going to end up blowing all my tickets on legacy tournaments this week
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>>26825598
The lack of EU figures is due to the plastic? I've read it had to do with the moulding - too many spikes on the toys.

Sauce? Or are you just conflating the lack of figures with EU regulations like >>26825630

>>26822251
Oh shit, the Illustration Guide is getting an English print? Does all this shit come bundled with it? Does this mean I need to make a pilgrimage to NYC?
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Hey /ptcgo/ lookin to try and get into this game after seeing some awesome lookin cards like mega mawile ex, but after looking into it more it seems like every single competitive deck runs shaymin ex, which is $50. Is it possible to get into this game on a lower price point (say $75~) semi-competitively?
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>>26833623
Run Greninja BREAK. $75 will cover your 4 frogs on a good day.
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>>26833643
$40 of that will be Greninja BREAK
$40 more of that will be 4 VS Seeker.

Then you still have to get the rest of the deck. The lowest budget you can use to build a competitively viable deck in this card game is probably $90-100.
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>>26833709
Ah, true, I suppose you don't need four of them.

VS Seeker is a bitch for new players.
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>>26833963
As a competitive player, no matter what deck I'm playing, I end up using all four of my copies of VS Seeker. It's such a powerful card, especially with Battle Compressor.

Newer players are definitely getting shafted on this card though. It was only $4-5 from release to some time last fall, then it started climbing up, I guess because PHF was going out of stock.
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>>26833623
Yeah, playing the TCG isn't cheap if you want a good deck, but compared to other card games it is much cheaper.

There might be a reprint for shaymin soon so that will lower the price.
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>>26834826
>reprint
>lower price

Depends on the accessibility of the reprint. If it's a tin promo, absolutely. If it's in a reprint set, it will be depend on the pull rate. Japan's reprint set, Concept Pack 4, didn't lower the price of Shaymin EX for them at all.
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Ive got 23 of these things.

Are they worth anything? I'm looking for anything unrelated to the game itself as I have no interest in playing.
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>>26834898
They can be worth 20-25 cents a piece, but the ones that really sell are Roaring Skies codes. They sell better in bulk though.
>>
That promo ditto is pretty neat, but I fucking hate the artwork.
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>>26834952
Has ditto ever gotten a nice artwork?

It's always clay
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>>26834866
Japan's prices aren't impacted the same way ours are. Since their cards aren't being spread over such a wide area, and the cost of packs are lower, the price for singles never reaches the same heights (except for rare exceptions, like Shining Gyarados).

Any reprint of a useful card over here makes a dent in the price, unless that reprint brings something back into the format just as it's about to be retired, because players might not have them at the ready. Shaymin is getting to be old, but it's ubiquitous, so it'd surely drop even if it was only printed as a SR.
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>>26834988
Can you list any examples of expensive staples that got reprinted in a different set thereby making either the original or reprint significantly cheaper? Not condescending, legitimately curious if there's a precedent.
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>>26835094
Seismitoad from BW and Mewtwo EX come to mind.
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>>26835132
I don't know anything about Seismitoad, but Mewtwo EX got a tin promo way before it got reprinted in Legendary Treasures. Was Mewtwo EX still expensive?
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>>26835094

Mewtwo EX, Darkrai EX, Keldeo EX, and Deoxys EX
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>>26835167
Tin promos before they got reprinted. Unless the tin promos were still expensive.
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>>26835180

Sorry for misreading, but Pokemon Catcher (Pre-errata) and to a certain extent Ultra Ball became a lot more cheaper when they got reprinted in Plasma Blast
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>>26834015
I think the main reason it started to rise in price was Lysandre's Trump Card getting banned. With Supporters reliably staying in the discard pile, VS Seeker's utility increased greatly.

I hope they start putting it in theme decks now that the last English set it was printed in is over a year old, even if it's only as 1 per deck, because that'd make it at least a bit fairer for new players. And if I'm really dreaming big, a full play set in Keldeo vs. Rayquaza would be great.
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>>26835383
If LTC was responsible for its price hike, it was pretty delayed, because I remember helping my friend build a M-Tyranitar EX deck and the vendor sold him a playset of VS Seeker for $5 each. AOR came out mid-August, LTC was banned mid-June. Nonetheless, you are right; with LTC gone, VS Seeker's usefulness rose quite a bit.

As for a reprint in sealed product, I think they'll put one in the next Battle Arena product since they did in the previous one, but I doubt it'll ever come in a theme deck. But anything's possible.
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>>26820735
I already do that for 100% OJ, might as well do it here too.
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Okay pull for just one breakpoint pack?
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>>26835972

nope
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>>26835972
At least the Numel is cute.
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>Finally got challenge done
>Ancient origins pack (always get AO why?)
>No pack in collection

FUCK.
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>>26836197
Hah and all my decks are gone from deck manager.


Quality.
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>Ditto bundle again

Why the fuck do they do this shit. How about putting up the dark Greninja, or BW Ninetales, or BW Drifblim, or Jirachi, or anything fucking useful? I'm not even mentioning new sleeves or anything since I know the lazy bastard devs aren't working on any.
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>>26836371
I just like the fact that nearly every bundle has a Chespin coin still.
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>>26836371
>dark Greninja
We don't know the method to get it yet.
>BW Ninetales
Doesn't come in a bundle.
>BW Drifblim
Doesn't come in a bundle.
>Jirachi
Already done twice with possible reprint on the way.

99% of promo cards are junk, you should know this by now, and there is nothing wrong with a repeat of one from a while back that people could have missed out on.
Now put your rage boner away.
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>>26836418
The devs are fucking stupid. How about just old packs for a bundle at 250 apiece? Having to wait months for BW sets to be put in tournaments is retarded. I'd love to open some locked Triumphant without getting 20 Machamp Primes and its shitty theme deck every 4 months.

>>26836470
They can make a bundle out of anything like they did with the Johto starter primes. Nobody wants the Ditto or more Primal Clash. If they could program for shit they'd just release the Greninja with a Phantom Forces pack like it was in real life, or Ninetales with a NXD, PlS and PlF. Why the fuck you're apologizing for shitty, lazy devs is beyond me.
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Is there any way to obtain XY Generations in game other than trading? And what about the other Fates Collide boosters?
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Hey look, we're opening the Zygarde Collection and posting codes. It's what we do.
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>tfw we're gonna be out of state when nationals is happening
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Do you guys think we're getting a shaymin reprint in the Shaymin box in july?
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>>26836371
>>26836541
I bet this is the same guy who complained about clumping and got BTFO.
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>>26837028
>complaining about lazy devs not putting in bundles people want is the same as complaining about clumping
Suck that dick harder.
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>>26836994
oh god I forgot to post the video. I just woke up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykzViVBi95w

Have one more code.
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>>26836994
rip
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>>26837047
>>26837016
>>26836994
thanks, claimed
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>>26837021

If you are talking about THE Shaymin EX, then no since the included promo was already shown ages ago
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>>26837040
I'm just saying that there is a lot of similarities in the way they write.
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>>26837016
>>26837047
some asshole didn't post pulls
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>>26837115
I got the last one. It was a Xerneas EX.
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>>26837083
People have been asking for a better store forever, it's only natural people are sick both of them not doing it and people defending their laziness. Telling people what the newest set is isn't a real upgrade.
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>>26837159
I don't see what that has to do with this.
I was talking about how that guy is clearly the same as the guy who was talking about clumping.

Besides, he was complaining about the bundle not being 10/10 every week, not the shop.
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>>26837218
>Besides, he was complaining about the bundle not being 10/10 every week, not the shop.


The bundle hasn't been 10/10 for a long ass time stop moving the goalposts.
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>>26837218
And you sound like the guy who constantly defends this game like it's his job, the state this game is in currently shows that no one should be defending it.
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>>26837665
No, but there have been some usable ones like Blacksmith and Froakie.
Almost every promo card isn't worthless, so it's only natural that a good amount of the bundles don't have something usable.

>>26837681
Well someone has to at times when the complaints are BS.
I still think that they need to get their act together when it comes to implementing all the deck boxes, but I don't go around screaming like a 13 year old who just found 4Chan.
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>>26837059
oh what is the promo? can't seem to find it
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>>26838089
Did you seriously bring up a set blister promo like Froakie as a good bundle? By that logic any set that prints good promos in their blisters is PTCGO making a good bundle. Blacksmith isn't unique. People want new things with more varied packs, not the same shit over and over. Feel free to continue moving goalposts to justify bad dev decisions.
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>>26833607
had a google around for sauce but no luck. That was the reasoning I'd heard a while ago though - something to do with the type of plastic used being against some Euro safety regulations. As opposed to the Kinder thing which is against something American.
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>>26833623
play online for now. It's legitimately free2play and a few weeks of grinding will get you enough cards & knowledge for everything you ever need to go further online without ever paying a cent. This will make RL play cheaper as you won't make shitty buys. Ofc it's quicker to drop 30 on codes and trade into the cards you need welcome to life.

If you want to play IRL sooner or later you will need to invest some money. Vs Seeker & Shaymin are the expensive parts - but the good news is once you have a set, they go into every deck. So while you can drop 150 on your first deck, your next deck costs a fraction of that since those cards are interchangable into your next deck and your third and so on. A few other cards like Sycamore, N, Battle Compressor & Ultra Ball fit this same category.
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I've collected cards on and off for a majority of my life. I've been playing TCGO pretty consistently since it came out, but I've never played the physical game with anyone. A local shop is having a prerelease for Steam Siege and I'm thinking about going. Is there anything I should know/do/don't do to keep myself from looking like a total faggot? Thanks
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>>26838655
Well you're playing Pokemon in public, at a prerelease no less, you're going to look like a faggot no matter what. The best you can do is try not to act like a massive faggot. Know the rules and how to play the TCG. Be familiar with most of the new cards. Don't try to overwhelm people with trades. That sort of thing.
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>>26838393
Froakie was a good bundle because it has a place in high tier competitive decks.
Also that Blacksmith bundle was unique.

You said that there hasn't been a 10/10 bundle in a long time and that is only because only about 1 in 50 promo cards are usable.
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trev bundle was good too. Just cos you already have doesn't make it bad. I for one am glad to see it working through the old ones. Promo Malamar will be soon. Promo Jirachi can't be long after.

time for a new thread too.
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New TCG player been playing the online version for about a week cumulative. All I know is that VS seeker and shaymin are good and something about "night march."

Should I just keep playing trainer challenges/versus until I know more about decks to build my own? I've attempted to make my own decks (using the deck composition guideline in the OP; tonnes of supporters) but they're all shit. The forum threads aren't really helpful.

I just participated in my first tournament since I was told you could get tradeable packs that way but I got last place. The first guy I fought had shaymin-ex and mega gardevoir EX and aromatisse, while I had fuckin vaporeon and jolteon.
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Ha shit doing the trainer challenge task figured I would get some free boosters from the 12 wins with a deck thing AND THERE IS NO BOOSTER IN MY COLLECTION that's two fucking boosters I'm missing now.
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>>26838801
Froakie doesn't count because it was released alongside Fates Collide. You are ignoring that logic that the devs did not choose to put it in the store, it was going up regardless. The Blacksmith bundle can be obtained via code card. They have had XY packs for weeks now without any variation, and Ditto was in the store mere months ago where people didn't buy it then. Regirock bundle would have been better just for desired packs.

God you defend dumb choices like your life depended on it.
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>>26838963
So alternate art doesn't count even if both BW Ninetales and BW Drifblim, two cards that were called out as good promos, are the same way. This failure of logic is astounding. I'm not sure if the Blacksmith can be done with a card code, but eve if it can, isn't a good thing that people can get it without the code?

So now you've complaining that the only packs are standard? Make up your mind.
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>>26839078
No alternate art doesn't count if you can get it from a code card. You're once again ignoring that the variety is shit, which is as big if not a bigger reason than the promos you defend so much. Nobody wants Primal Clash. Ancient Origins was last wee with Pyroar Box the week prior. Nobody wants any packs in those, out of all of them only the Blacksmith one has anything remotely different. Greninja, Jirachi, Regirock, Ninteales and Drifblim and the like cannot be obtained in this way, and Ninetales and Drifblim are from packs that are not in the store. Why do you double down on defending devs' laziness like your life depended on it? I'm curious, because you're acting like such a weasel I'd believe it if you were some kind of marketer.

It's like if a card shop didn't restock in any variety and kept buying the Ditto blister when all the players were looking for for restocks in Jirachi or Expanded/Legacy packs, or new gameplay items, and some guy hangs around the shop 24/7 and mouths off at anyone saying the selection sucked.
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