/ptg/ – Pokken Tournament General

i love braxien

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>>26646494

Why is this game so dead?

>>26647959
Wii U and no stream of updates/content.

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>>26646615
You aren't for lewd, pls.

>Mewtwo disconnects in Ranked after losing a round

Eat shit.

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>A fighting game that punishes you severely for not being a zoner

Haha great game guys!

>>26648086
How's E5 treating you?

what do i do against gardevoir

>>26648145

I'm C5 bud.
The amount of bullshit you have to deal with as Machamp is ridiculous.

>>26648171
Switch to Suicune.

>>26648171
Get in her face.

>enemy is in burst
>randomly activate my espeon assist
>they burst attack
>counter burst and nullify it

Works everytime.

This game could have easily been one of the best pokemon spinoff games.

>Wii U
>Nintendo/Gamefreak ever addressing balance

Nice knowing you guys.

>>26648350
>Nintendo/Gamefreak ever addressing balance
>not Namco ever addressing balance

literally no content

hardmode you get 2, count 'em, TWO, additions for DLC characters, but you also get 2 support sets

your move

>>26648538

fighters:

Heracross
Swampert

supports:
Slowking/Slowbro defensive set
Breloom/Hitmontop status inflicter/ hazard clear set

>>26648538
Leavanny
Miltank

Support
Cloyster/Granbull
Nidoking/Nidoqueen

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Best Pokken.

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>>26648086
>>26648180
>Machamp featured prominently in Japanese adverts
>Official twitter features Machamp and Machamp alone in the profile photo handler
>even had his own pokenchi episode
>cucked from the cover and nerfed to hell and back

>>26648538
Bug type pokemon.

Obligatory fuck Mewtwo's 120 damage Duel Phase throw that comes out at a decent speed.

>>26651039
Shit like that shouldn't be allowed.

I don't even like it on Charizard.

>>26651371
God I hate Charizards.

>>26648928
Cadc there for a reason
But your fucked with gardevoir

>>26651371
>>26653437
Charizards fun

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Why is Garde considered high tier?
I'm not insulting the poke, I just don't know

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>playing a Power character that isn't the balanced overheating lamp
I seriously hope you guys don't do this

>tfw can't decide on a main because I'm obssessing over tiers
I know it'll never matter at my skill level, but it still gets to me

>>26654791
Where on earth did you get that info? And why is Braixen on there so much (favorably), and yet so absent at tourneys in general?

>>26654620
Because during the entire testing period in the Japanese arcades Namco has failed to fix the inherent problems with Gardevoir, so they just went "fuck it" and increased her damage output threefold for the Wii U release. With zoners having an inherent advantage over the melee characters in Pokken she naturally ended up being high tier.

I like to say that Gardevoir is the Machamp of zoning characters. Except being bad at melee doesn't hinder her nearly as much as being bad at zoning hinders the Champ.

>>26654791
>>26655357
I knew it was too good to be true that Machamp was being given attention

The fact that Machamp was even mid to high tier in the japanese arcade version and Gardevoir was absolute bottom trash tier

I'm now convinced that the nerfs were responsible for this change

And yea I'm fucking salty. Pokemon that's given a once in a blue moon chance to shine (see >>26648928) didn't even experience it fully and properly. I should never probably expect especially if it's the only one out of a group of japan approved pokemon

>>26655502
>can literally KO most Pokemon in 3 moves
>bawwww why isn't he the mascot fuck pikachu ;-;

Are Machampfags whinier than Raichufags?

>>26655357
So, what makes someone like Chandelure only mid-tier compared to Gardevoir?
Does she really just have that much more consistent damage that lmaonomelee doesn't even matter?

I feel like she's really so much weaker than other zoners up close

>>26655585
Like it can actually come in on a zoner. And literally no one said that about pikachu. Nice grasping.

>>26655901
>Chandelure only mid-tier compared to Gardevoir
According to whom?

Garde's good but she's got nothing on the sheer bullshittery of Chandelure.

>>26655901
Better traps and chip damage, I'd guess.

>>26658248
>It's a 'Magical Leaf spam in Duel phase' match
Alright already

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>>26660011
Nice repeating numerals

>all top 3 this month are Garde and Mewtwo
>all top 5 last month are Garde and Mewtwo
>they're also in top 4 all-time
Guys?

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>think Chandelure is cooler
>think Gardevoir is better and more fun
I mean, I'm a faggot either way but still

>>26655585

That's because Machamp has few ways of getting in, has slow attacks that are predictable, and generally is countered by the whole entire roster.

On top of supportmons like I LOVE RESHIRAM, Ninetails, and Dragonite that royally fuck em up.

Is anyone on the code? I haven't played this in a couple months

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>tfw new player and getting Fireblast spammed by Braxien with no chance
Alright, I will take this anger and burn it as fuel in learning how to CADC

>>26661800
What character are you using?

>>26661833
>Chandy
I know that Fireblast doesn't have full range, so I should've just backed up and lasered
but I was so confused that I choked massively

I even managed to get in close with one or two decent CADCs but her tools up close feel so strong, too

>>26661852
Will o wisp is a good counter for all of braixens pokemon moves.

>>26660011
Just listen to Nia's advice, it always helps, right?

>>26662123
>That...was bad
I almost disabled her after that shit

>>26661866
I'll keep that in mind, senpai

>it's a every person is playing Mewtwo or S/Mewtwo in Ranked day

>>26662619
>tfw uncharged lasering them as they wind-up Hyper Beam
evry tim

>>26653728
Go to bed Charizard, you overgrown lizard.

>>26663389
Theoretically, they could just cancel out of it if they had sufficient reaction time.

Who requires more execution? Sceptile or Gengar?

>>26666058
Sceptile. You can't just mash your face against the controller once you hit burst mode like Gengar.

>>26666226
Burst Gengar's air lasers are horribly unsafe.

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List of characters I hespect as a Machamp player:

Other Machamps
Lucario
Pika Libre
Charizard
Garchomp
Blaziken (almost forget he was in the game lol)
Weavile to some extent
Pikachus to some extent

Players who I don't hespect:

Chandlure
Sceptile
Gengar
Suicune
Gardevoir
Braixen

Players that literally should heem themselves:

Shadow Mewtwo
Mewtwo

>>26667142
Don't they pierce counters tho, and they do chip damage.

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So is online play necessary to have any amount of fun with this game?

I've been playing it on Wii U with Loadiine, and I just cannot get into it. The battle system and control schemes just don't feel good, and as a rosterfag there aren't any characters I like playing as besides Garchomp. Is story mode a bad place to get expectations for the gameplay?

>>26669315
yeah, since the AI is garbage.

>>26669315
Yes, if you can't play online find another game.

The only good part of the single player is the training mode

I was playing this for my youtube a month ago, but I've been busy with finals until around now

when you say dead, do you guys mean people aren't playing online?

>>26669426
>>26669523
I'll wait until IOSU comes out and lets me play it online before giving it another try then.

>>26669532
Nah, the matches are still easy to find in my experence.

It's just the "competitive" scene is dead. Most people only seem to play this game for fun.

>>26669554
that's a damn shame, this game is fucking amazing. I'm the kind of person that could play a good game years after its prime, I still play SoulCalibur V and Halo Reach all these years later
and like Red Faction guerilla still has people on


Good games never die, but at least that lets me catch back up on my skills

>>26669009
They don't pierce counter, the only laser that pierces is the field phase one, and you can just side step that.

>>26669637
It's the lack of content that "kills" this game more than anything desu

Single player is barren as fuck and online gets rather repetitive with only 16 characters (14 if we rule out repeating species) in the roster. The dumb as fuck ranking system doesn't help either.

Sequel fucking when Bamco.

>>26669944
i'm with you on that, remember I play soulcalibur, I'm praying for Soul Calibur VI for E3

But, that being said, if the core gameplay is good, I could spend days on that shit, especially if I start losing and rage online. I'm tempted to post a link to my first set of online matches but ehh don't wanna be spammed by 4chan hate

if dubs i'll post it

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What's a good way for a filthy Chandelure player such as myself to not stick my foot in my ass against Charizard in field phase?

Or just against Charizard in general.

>>26646387
he left, never to be seen again

>>26670332
Use your million counter piece attacks along with plenty of beam.

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I fucking HATE Mewtwo, and literally (literally) half of my goddamn opponents use him
What even counters this genetically overpowered piece of trash?

>Psycho Cut in field shits on projectiles
>his homing hits midair
>he has an attack that also grabs
>Hyper Beam threat shuts down most zoning
>Barrier combos into a half dozen things with no read
etc.

HELP

>>26670673
Don't forget his infinite.

But yeah, Mewtwo doesn't really have any big weaknesses.

I've played roughly 60 matches online so far with moderate success. Is ranking down even a thing? Or does it just take forever for your rank to stabilize?

>>26671571
You can rank down. The point system is pretty weird so it's hard to estimate the number of lost battles needed to rank down.

>>26671571
You will not rank down until you hit where you fit in. For me I'm constantly hovering between B5 and B3.

>>26671740
>You will not rank down until you hit where you fit in.
Don't lie. I ranked down twice in one day, the the next day went up 5 ranks. The system is a mess.

>>26668867
>not respect Gengar and Sceptile
I don't get it. They aren't zoners. Also, I don't see how you could respect Charizard when he shits all over Machamp.

>>26675466
sceptile deserves respect because of how technical his combos and setups are and not just because he's not a zoner, they're mostly fair and require good timing to execute
I used to respect charizard but now every mon with a chargeable piercing midair attack loses that respect because holy shit it's literally all they ever do

>>26675625
Why not Gengar? He's probably the only character as bad as Machamp, the only difference is that his burst is actually good.

>>26675783
he's still a shitburglar with his teleporting and disappearing shenanigans and I don't like it

>>26675625
>Sceptile
>mostly fair

Yeah, sure. Technical, yeah, but fair is not what I'd say.

>>26676024
That's understandable.

>>26669554
>>26669637
aww poor little competitive drones, yes how dare people play for fun

>>26678522
There's nothing wrong with playing the game for fun. Hell, a lot of people wouldn't play a competitive game if they didn't find it fun. But the competitive audience is what keeps a game alive. There's a reason people still see tournaments Melee after 15 years. It's a game that's crazy fun AND has a lot of competitive value. Meanwhile, Pokken is dying because it has very little competitive value and SFV is dying because it's not fun.

New patchnotes

http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/pokken_wiiU/news/160610_01.html

Somebody who can read moon pls translate

>>26654791
>weavile is that advantageous on charizard

what?

>>26669554
What are you talking about, there's tournaments all the time

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>>26679051
>stone edge attack comes out faster
>standard counter hitbox slightly raised
>longer blockstun on 4X
>longer high dodge frames on 2X
>burst attack now forces guardlock for all 3 first hits, increased blockstun on 4th
>something about digging against a bursted opponent
not bad I guess

>>26679051
translated: http://pokkenarena.boards.net/thread/1616/june-15th-patch-notes

>>26679577

those mewtwo nerfs


DELICIOUS

>>26679577

>Shadow Mewtwo buffs

why would you ever
reducing the length of his synergy shit is awesome though

>>26679577
>all those Mewtwo nerfs
YES
>Cresselia nerf
YES
>all those Shadow Mewtwo buffs
NOOOO WHAT ARE THEY DOING

Poor Machamp though, was the nerf really necessary?

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>>26679577
Than jebus they didn't remove Braixen's flame charge cancel.

>5X
I feel dumb for not knowing what this input is.

Also

>all those shadow mewtwo buffs
Fuck. At least vortex got a nerf.

>>26679990
>Poor Machamp though, was the nerf really necessary?
My thoughts exactly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MC7jpr-7Y8

we got new tech

>>26680251
Seems like it's only specific moves.
Trying this out with Braixen and so far it only work with 4X.
The timing isn't as tricky as I tought it would be.

>>26680364
Alright, found the timing for it can now confirm that it works for every attack, at least for Braixen. I can't give you frame specific input details but i'm guesstimating that it's the last frame of the counter attack.

An easier way to practice this is by jumping and then pressing shield. Light attacks do work but the timing is even more strict since you can either press jump too early/late, or accidentally input a grab command.

>>26680251
That's neat. Thought we got the game pretty much figured out at this point.

Could we have a tournament this time around?
please

>>26679577
>Suicune
>jY (Water Gun) now does less blockstun.

Thank you.

>Mewtwo:
>- Homing Attack: The 2nd part of the Homing Attack now has reduced hits. This makes it easier to CA the homing combo. However this nerf does not apply to Burst Mode Mewtwo X.

Jesus, thank you.

>Shadow Mewtwo
>- Recover: Recovery time after using recover reduced.
>- Thunder: You can now combo after hitting thunder on an aerial opponent instead of slamming them with a hard knockdown.
>- Back Y in Field (Light Pillar): Increased hitstun on aerial opponents. Miracle Eye variant also receives this buff.
>- Back Step (Field): You can now cancel into an action out of Shadow Mewtwo's field back dash sooner.
>- Counter Attack in Burst Mode as Shadow Mewtwo X: Can now combo out of Mega SMX's counter attack in burst mode if it either criticals, or is fully charged.
>- Psywave (Vortex): Increases how much life is consumed when fully charged. Damage dealt as chip damage decreased when fully charged. Uh... not sure what this second part is. Something about Psywave moves being + on block or allowing you to move before the opponent can after they block it. Not sure if it's still vortex variant or other psywave moves.

What the fuck is this?

>Magneton: Damage increased. If used to counter an aerial attack, then it increases the damage even further.
>Quagsire: Reduces the outward knockback of mud bomb, making enemies more easily trapped in it.
Nice.

>Cresselia: No longer has invincibility.
Maybe people will actually stop using Cresselia/Reshiram, nice.

Vscode empty af, where y'all at?

>>26681392
A couple hours later maybe.

>>26679577
>Braxien
>5X: Second hit now allows for combo follow ups.
Oh man, I'm excited. Hopefully it'll be something useful.

>>26682839
Maybe, instead of pinning them to the ground it stuns them in place. If you can follow up with 8X we're golden.

Why isn't Paul Phoenix in this game?

Redpill me on Suicune, boys
Also is there a list of what exactly Mirror Coat works on, or is it just a learn by trying thing?

>>26683938
Anything that doesn't counter pierce?

>>26683938
this >>26684539
It also reflects some support moves, like Emolga's Shock Wave or Cubone's Bonemerang

>>26684637
>like Emolga's Shock Wave

You sure about that one?

THEY DIDN'T FIX CHANDELURE'S FUCKING FULLSCREEN FRAME 1 LASER WHAT IS THIS BULLSHIT

>>26685660
yes, unless they changed it for the Wii U version

How the fuck do I get good with Gengar? I secondary him, and even after over 300 matches I'm still shit with him and there is still so much shit to learn.

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>>26679577
>Gengar gets absolutely nothing
No seriously, fuck you Bamco.

>>26686401
You might be good and just not realize how bad he is.

>>26686401
>>26686438
I don't understand how people can say gengar is bad as a weavile player.

Sure, his stuff out of burst isn't great, but it's not bad either and the fact he just phases out of existence on a lot of his moves can fuck you up

But more importantly, the moment he gets burst it's just an auto win for him.

>>26686438
>complaining about gengar not being good.

Please, I main Braixen. I know my shit character.

>>26686851
>Ky Kiske of Pokken
>bad
Anon please

>>26686851
>another uninformed "god my character sucks so much ;_;" complainer
at least find something believable to complain about like RPS shark

>>26686876
>uninformed
>been playing nothing but Braixen since launch

>>26687027
>been playing since launch
>still thinks his character is shit
I got some news for you m8, something is definitely trash but it's not your character

>>26687085
fite me

>>26687126
_____________________no_______

>>26687150
DODGE
O
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G
E

>>26687154
I can't very well play when I'm teaching rich chinese kids how to read

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>>26687179
Oh. That's what I get for trying to start shit between people in /ptg/.

>>26687085
Please. I think I'm decent. Braixen, is with no doubt bottom 3. If this game has proven anything is that your character indeed carries you in a match, hence all the mewtwos, suicunes and gardevoirs.

>>26687264
Guess you werent the only one

>>26687266
Braixen isn't godlike or anything, but she's at least mid. She has most of the tools she needs and her ability to charge assist helps cover her holes.

Machamp, Gengar, and Blaziken are all worse than her easy.

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So, /ptg/ , have you ever fount against a famous/pro player?

I played against swillo a while ago in friendlies.

>>26687484
From what I remember I've fought Ouroboro, TheAppleBoom, Gallivantz (the creator of the Arena forum), Maskrin (that one Garde top 8 player at Dreamhack) and Cat Fight a couple of time.

>>26687368
>Machamp, Gengar, and Blaziken are all worse than her easy
Those three used to be mid to top tier

>>26687484
I've fought against suicunemaster a few times but it hasn't gone too well, connections goes to chicken shit whenever I fight him and so does my performance. Wish to fight him with a stable connection. Fought ouroboro also, matches went better with him.

Also, no idea swillo had a sceptile.

Jap moot get your shit together.

>>26687655
Arcade version is basically a different game

It's leak season. Keep the thread afloat

>>26687656
Swillo switches between Shadow Mewtwo, Sceptile and Lucario IIRC

I can't wrap my head how he can be so good with so many characters while I struggle to git gud with 1

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>tfw haven't played in weeks and probably shit now

someone code pls

>>26687484
I basically don't play friendlies aside from the rare code, and my rank is still in the C's, I doubt it.

>>26691723
Sure, I have a bit of time.

>>26691766
ggs obs
guess you're fixed on kfc now then

>getting hit by running stance 4 times in a row

I think I should get some sleep now.

gg, Nanaca.

>>26692126
I'm still playing various characters, but I often sit on one of them for a session instead of just going random now.

Sceptile or Suicune
Decide for me; I'm indecisive

Italian nationals on pokkentournamenteu twitch right now

So far Weavile, Shadow Mewtwo, Charizard and Suicune have advanced to the next round

>>26692463
Suicune is a bit easier to get hang of

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>Suicune main is the only S1 ranked player in the world
JUST

>>26692914
>>26692923
>>26693190
That's 3 votes for Suicune over Sceptile desu
I'll probably keep him off to the side while I focus on the balanced zoner-killing-zoner chilly dog

>>26693693
>haven't played in almost a month due to ranked shenanigans.
>want to stick to friendlies but everyone with the shitiest connections play there.

Why can't the online be like day 1.

>>26695111
Didn't mean to reply.

>>26695111
>tfw occasionally hitting CPUs looking for ranked matches

RIP online.

>>26670673
>Psycho Cut in field shits on projectiles
Pray you picked a character that gets a lateral movement + projectile attack that dodges it.

>his homing hits midair
Pray you're Gardevoir and air counter.

>Hyper Beam threat shuts down most zoning
Duck and pray you aren't a tall character.

>Barrier combos into a half dozen things with no read
Pray that they never ever use psystrike and just grab him all day.

>>26647959
Two of everything required for local multiplayer.

>>26648928
>Machamp featured prominently in Japanese adverts
It was featured as a punching bag each time they revealed a new mon

>>26698188
this desu

even those stupid shitty naruto games that use the exact same camera angle and gameplay concepts somehow manage to let two people play on the same console at 60fps

how did this game drop the ball so goddamn hard? were they just looking for a big-money cashgrab pokemon release until S&M comes out?

is this game still going to be at evo with such dead online and complete lack of scene?

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>>26698267
>It was featured as a punching bag each time they revealed a new mon
Truth. Poor guy.

>>26698277
>were they just looking for a big-money cashgrab pokemon release until S&M comes out?

That seemed pretty obvious. This game shouldn't have gotten a console release. It was already dead in arcades.

>>26698277
>s this game still going to be at evo with such dead online and complete lack of scene?
1. The game's not dead online. Slower than before, sure. But hardly dead. There's still plenty of players online.
2. Not only is the game at EVO still, it's hit over a thousand entrants since April, and I'm sure that amount has only climbed since then.
http://shoryuken.com/2016/04/15/pokken-tournament-breaks-one-thousand-entrants-for-evo-2016/

Anybody else excited for when a literal child wins Pokken at EVO with Chandelure spam?

>>26699234
I fully expect this and await the shitposting

>>26699234
>>26699876
>Nintendo's constant spew about this game is shit like
>"Pokken is a game for Pokemon fans of all ages, with simple button inputs for younger and newer players, but with a very in-depth combat system that hardcore fighting games fans will love!"
>they hype it all year for EVO
>EVO '16 happens
>some stinky little 7 year old kid
>wearing a what-might-be-human-shit-stained Pikachu hat
>with several teeth missing
>absolutely tears through the brackets by spamming as Chandelure
>autistically shrieking the whole fucking time
>casters at a loss for words
>nobody even knows if they should clap for him when he wins

EVO is going to be crazy this year.

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X -> enhanced Psystrike = 200 damage
Telekinesis (crit) -> X -> enhanced Psystrike = 183 damage

X1, X1 -> Psycho Cut cancel -> Elemental Punches = 169 damage
Telekinesis (crit) -> X1, X1 -> Psycho Cut cancel - > Elemental Punches= 165 damage

Why is this allowed?

>>26700213
Literally one competent Suicune player will destroy Chandy so hard it's not even funny

>>26700213
It'll be good for a laugh.

>post frequently but never played with anyone from here as far as I'm aware.

Will get home soon, anyone think they'll hop in the code in about an hour or so?

>>26702703
Only way to find out is to post in the thread when the time comes.

>>26703347
how about now

>>26703404
Sure.

Really sorry for the shitty connection, must not be the best time of the day to play.

Yeah, it's a bit laggy.

gg, Flippy.

>that electroweb catching my flamecharge.

Oh I laffin. Good stuff obs, the game felt somewhat new. Can't wait for the update.

Bampu

>>26703974
The air dash? Yeah, that was neat.

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>tfw beat a Braixen online with Machamp thanks to godly counter attack cancelling the projectile spam to close in

>>26707149
Basically everytime I beat a Shadow/Mewtwo at all, I'm always thinking "Eat shit".

>>26707149
good job brah

>>26707149
>tfw think i'm not too projectile spammy with her and try getting more up-close than I should.

I get projectiles/zoning are her game but whenever I'm in a mirror match and the other person is just using ember in field phase and nothing but psybeam and fire blast in duel phase it makes my blood boil.

Machamp wins Italy. Beautifully too.
UK winner went out in Pools to someone who went out Round 1 of top cut losers.
Germany winner came 7th, runner up came 9th.

Clearly Machamp is the best.

>>26709181
How are they using the Champ to get so far in those tournaments anyway? Also, which tournament are you taking about when you Describe Germany/UK? What characters did those winners use?

>>26709181
>Machamp wins Italy. Beautifully too
Holy shit. Video? Stream? Anything??

>still can't pick alt color

I want to be red Lucario all the time.

>>26709919
>which tournament are you taking about when you Describe Germany/UK
Nationals, UK final was Blaziken beats Sceptile, Germany was SM2 beats Charizard

Germany was Machamp beats Mewtwo

For you people who didn't get to see it, the stream was the PokkenTournamentEU Twitch, just like UK and Germany.

>>26711085
So Machamp won Italy AND Germany??

>>26711291
I mistyped, Italy was Machamp beating Mewtwo, not Germany.
Germany was SM2 beating Charizard.
Said SM2 placed 7th at Italy, with the Charizard coming 9th.

>>26700280
Wait, is there actually a stronger psystrike with perfect timing?

>>26711474
Yeah, sometimes you see them shine yellow and hear a shing sound effect, that does more damage.

>>26711625
Ah, so Mewtwo's the game's alpha Patrokolos.

>>26709181
>>26711399
I would love to watch this

>>26713382
I'm guessing that the first (latest) three videos are from the EU tournament we're talking about.
https://www twitch tv/pokkentournamenteu/profile

Code?

Is there a reason we can't get a regular Pokemon game on a NON-handheld system?

Is it me or is Pokken's online connectivity really shitty these last few days?

Dead game

>>26716618
It's been fine for me.

>>26716100
Yeah, the WiiU isn't selling.

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>>26709181
>Clearly Machamp is the best
Just when I was about to give up even trying to use this guy in both the mainline and in Pokken. Wow.

Goreson really is attuned to Machamp's playstyle. Those matches were amazing.

>>26720440
Links?

>>26721631
See >>26713744

>tfw you CA someone jumping over you and it doesn't autocorrect

Can you turn around?

>>26722721
I want to say it's possible, but I think it's "whenever the game wants it to" so best option is to CADC away.

>make my way to D2 after a week
>matches suddenly get significantly harder
>also facing Mewtwo literally every other match
Coincidence?
Fuck this pokemon

>>26722943
I sometimes feel like deleting my save to see what it's like back in E rank.

>>26723042
I coasted on Chandelure desu
I've begun to see the limits of the character, and am pursuing a new main though

>>26716100
They wouldn't be particularly pocket monsters in that case, would they?

Anyone have any Gengar tips?

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NO ES FAKE, ES HADA himself mentioned on Twitter that he was suspicious of the 1.3 patch the game is getting. As it turns out, the last patch we had weighed some measly 15 Mbs, but the next patch (which he says might go Live Around the same time as Nintendo's showings at E3) weighs a whopping 517 Mb.

Something clearly big is happening. The question is what?

Are we getting New Characters or modes to add some spice to the game in hopes of resurrecting it? Who or what are you expecting at this point? Will they be FREE? Will it be an 8k version of Never Gonna Give You Up to laugh at people for buying their game?

>>26724757
spectator mode

>>26724615
If the enemy has a dive kick, it's usually a free hypnosis with good timing.

What if they added some extra stages
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jW9A35Lqcy8

>>26724615
Jump, Nightshade, Dive attack.
SPAM SHADOW PUNCH!!!

>Those jumping grab attacks

Jesus Christ, Machamp is hype as fuck in tournament play

>>26725726
I only look for Machamp games in tournaments for real. It kind of pisses me off how Machamp is an underdog in a fighting game and makes me ecstatic if Machamp wins just like in Milan

>>26724757
Voiced lines for rematches against League champs.

Seriously, why are the initial ones voiced but the rematches aren't?

>>26725335
>>26725335
How do I beat Pikachu?

code

>>26727020
How do you not?

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>>26724757
Shit, 500 mbs? We know that nintendo will only be talking about zelda, s/m and games they've already announced but there might be a slight chance they'll reveal something for pokken? I really hope so.

Splatoon first got light updates as well and out of nowhere it recieved an update of questionable size which led it to get datamined, and sure enough it had dlc elements.

How big was the first patch that fixed S.Mewtwo's infinite?

Who's the cutest support?

>>26730565
Well, so far we have 171 MB worth of update data. We've gotten two updates as of now, right?

>>26731107
Sylveon of course, followed by Eevee and Victini.

>>26731128
>171

All of that was balance patching, right? It doesn't seem too unfeasible that the new 517 patch would be a very large balance patch.

>>26736845
Well, the first update enabled online and that was 370MB. Second update recieved the first patch, which removed s. mewtwo's infinite, bug fixes and some move alterations, that was 15MB.

This next balance patch is much larger, but it being over 500mb is questionable.

>>26737379
bumpming

>>26734506
None of those are cute

So did ZeRo totally drop Pokken?
Am I better than ZeRo at this game he wanted to be good at?

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>>26740084
>None of those are cute
What the hell's your definition of "cute" then?

>>26740982
Ness and Lucas are pretty cute

>enemy sceptile apparently forgets Leaf Blade is a counter

Been getting random disconnects all day today, how odd.

Patch when?

>>26745123
They never specified an hour. Shouldn't be too long.

>>26745123
I got some server maintenance trying to play, does it come out today?

>>26745349
Yup.

Please let it be EST time.

Update is now live.
Just go to online matchmaking, close your game after it shows you the error and open again.

>second hit of braixen's X attack.

Well, that's underwhelming.

code pls

>>26746037
What were you expecting?

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>machamp smacking the SHIT out of mewtwo

my dick

>>26747727
For it to have more momentum.

>>26745873
Wait, was this the 500mb patch?

according to a dataminer, data for empoleon, scizor and darkrai were found

>>26749510
YOOOOOOOOOOO

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>>26747878
Right?!

>>26749510
proof?

>>26749720
excuse me for linking to reddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/PokkenGame/comments/4o5mnh/some_info_about_file_differences_in_the_new_13/
http://imgur.com/a/OAq4E

>>26749709
funny thing about Machamp, I feel like his 2X change is an actual buff for him
before the patch it was a true blockstring and the opponent could option select (read mash) the punisher, after the patch it's not a true blockstring anymore, which means they have to observe, if you go for 2X or 2XX

Mewtwo's barrier is no more instant counter and confusion is -12 on block now (still safe against chandi)
Blaziken's j. Y beats certain projectiles like Suicune's j. Y, Lucario's 8Y, Sceptiles Bullet Seed and Leech seed and more, his 2Y is -4 on block, if you don't cancel it into a special move
Garchomp's 4X is -4 on block now, his stone edge followup comes out faster and the first 3 hits of his Burst Attack is a true blockstring, still as unsafe as ever though

>>26749510
I knew the filesize seemed fishy, fucking nice.

>darkrai will be the pseudo s. mewtwo.

>>26749510
Scizor Confirmed

Darkrai and Empoleon support sets Comfirmed

>>26749903
Darkrai is the one who is a character, as he has more move data

>>26749909
Oh, wait...shit

So Scizor and Empoleon are the next Support sets and Darkrai is the next Playable fighter.

>>26749944
>>26749909
>>26749903
what if all 3 are playable characters? it's early to speculate and we don't know everything, yet
we can at least say that we get at least one playable character

>>26749975
Darkrai data is more, containing shit EX hit, EX mode, etc.

the two only have a single attack data (Slash and Rock Smash)

How much will it cost? Because as nice as it would be, I'm doubting it would be free.

>>26750206
4-5 bucks?

>Decide to play because of balance patch
>Nothing feels different
>Still lose to spammy Chandlure
>Pokemon still do way too much damage

>>26750760
chandi got minor buffs
unless you really invest time into it, you won't notice the small changes

Mewtwo got nerfed hard

>>26749483
yup

For any Braixen mains, noticed that now she gets a bit of synergy with every move she makes, , but not as much as s.mewtwo.

Wonder if any other character got this.

>>26751840
Ah, and it's only in field phase. Holy shit, this feels good.

please have scizor playable instead of another overrated legendary shitter
hell I'd even take empoleon over edgerai albeit I won't play shitpenguin

>>26749999
actually, there's actually movedata for Bug Bite as well, though for some reason it's not attached to scizor's dex number
It's still pretty likely for scizor to come out as a playable character

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>>26749909
Shit, I didn't really want Scizor, but Darkrai is a fucking garbage choice. Less legendary dick sucking, goddamn Gamefreak.

>>26756475
>less legendary dicksucking
>only two playable legendary, one being the banned type

>>26756724
>only two playable legendary
There's three, which is too many

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>Sceptile nerfed
BUT WHY

I have to work so hard to get the damage other people get just mashing A, why would you nerf him and buff fucking Weavile?

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>>26646387

>>26757135
>I have to work so hard to get the damage
All you had to do was spam drop slash. Shit was safe on block and lead into a bigass combo afterwards.

Also Sceptile was one of the best characters in the game. Stop bitching about Weavile, you should be bitching about Shadow Mewtwo

>>26757280
>All you had to do was spam drop slash. Shit was safe on block and lead into a bigass combo afterwards.
Don't forget the tiny hitbox, the incredibly slow backswing on whiff, the ridiculous simplicity of being crossed up, and how the combo did less damage than most people mashing Y anyway.

Shit was balanced. Now the bulletseed pressure is gone, Leaf Blade is worse than his regular counter, the drop slash is all he's got. So if you hated it before, enjoy seeing more of it, I guess.

>>26757361
>Don't forget the tiny hitbox
Don't lie.

>the ridiculous simplicity of being crossed up
You aren't using it properly

>combo did less damage than most people mashing Y anyway.
Optimize your combos, goddamn