I'm mad

>>26589530
The GF apologists defending these confirmed shitty new games on this board will make you madder

>>26589530
Fuck I had hoped they had dropped sky battles. I hate those flying models.

>>26589530
where is the trainer that should be behind it ?!!

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>>26589579

>Mfw Sky Battles aren't in but they kept the models like this anyway.

>>26589583

>Thinking they would actually include trainer models for anything other than rival battles.

Top kek.

>>26589576
>wanting them to waste more time on models instead of other areas that were wrong with XY

You shitting me?

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>>26589576
>having common sense makes you a Game Freak apologist

I understand why GF wanted to focus less on the models this time but I hope they fix the blatantly shitty ones, like almost every flying type

>>26589598

What time would need to be wasted on models? They'd just need to put them in a neutral grounded position. Amie already has them in said stances.

>>26589579
They have dropped sky battles, but that doesn't mean they can be arsed to produce new animations when it's much easier to recycle everything into oblivion. That's the same reason why we had pokemon stadium models of the original 150 in pkmn battle revolution.

But who cares, kids and pokemon fans will eat that shit right up

>Not even changing the color palette
Wew

>>26589598
They would've only had to fix those Flying models though. Especially those of Xatu and Eelektross need to get fixed.

>>26589610
There's really no reason a Pokémon able to fly should stay on ground instead during battles.

>>26589621
The only thing wrong with Eelektross is the size.

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>>26589626

There is if they're less maneuverable in the air.

Oh well. The games aren't catered to you, entitled faggot.

>>26589530
what the fuck are you mad about?

Is this some kind of fucking meme?

What's the big fucking deal?

>>26589612
You don't know that. Post a source if you're going to grasp at straws, fag.

>>26589639
That pretty much only applies to Archeops.

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>>26589650
Ok, here's my source
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>>26589530
anti-3D fags blown out yet again, lmao.

>>26589530
What did you expect?

>>26590028
Normal models after all the backlash

Gen 6.5 confirmed.

God I miss the sprites sometimes. Salamence used to look fucking cool

>>26589612
The grounded animations ARE THERE though. Look at fucking pokemonamie. Every flying pokemon has a grounded animation. It's in the fucking game, but they refuse to use it.

>>26590077
Not really. Salamence always looked kinda shit. Easily the worst dragon that isn't altaria in every gen its in

>>26589530
This ruined the whole trailer for me.

They're just fleshing out the graphics in general so the fact that battles are gen 6 style is so fucking disappointing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW14HO7C1Dg

0:12

It says "game footage is not final"

Now give me the (You)'s

>>26589583
It's a wild Salamance. Why would a trainer standing behind him?

You know I didn't care about the models during sixth gen, but when jumping to the new one I hoped they would at least update them. This shit honestly make GF look to me more lazy than ORAS did.

You guys really expected they would change over 700 models? LMAO

>>26589583
It looks more like a wild battle considering it doesn't show the opposing trainer's pokeballs could be wrong though

>>26590147
Not over 700. Just maybe 20 including Salamence, Unfezant, Eelektross and Xatu

>>26590147
>implying they can't

>>26590126
Oh, there still hope.

>>26590048
As far as battles go/look this is true.

>>26590159
Tbh i was hoping that they would change the models for some pokemon too but i don't give a flying fuck if we are getting over 100 new pokemon with some good models.

face it, the "Gamefreak is lazy" meme will never catch on outside of your hugbox that is /v "we totally don't have a hateboner for GF but still buy their games anyway" p/

>>26589601
No it's the people defending ORAS and agreeing with XY dumbing down the story/difficulty

>>26589530
Hopefully most will not be flying, they wont make the flying starter glide constantly im prity sure.

>>26590227
>meme

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>Wailord will never be the correct size

>>26589621
Eelektross actually looks better in his XY animation IMO. But then again I never liked Eelektross's design.

>>26590752

I know anon, Old 3DS users hold us back.

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>>26590752
N E V E R
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>>26590117
>one of the few dragons that actually look like a dragon
>bad
The only bad thing here is your taste.

>>26590159
Don't forget this. Nice way to treat the second most recognizable Pokémon.

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>>26590159
Don't forget this, nice way to treat the second most recognizable Pokémon.

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>xF0x posted...

>"How? One is a lion and another is robot spider, I'm not seeing the resemblance. Even speaking purely in terms of types they aren't really the same, Metagross is Steel/Psychic and Solgaleo is Psychic/Steel."

Ayyyyyyy, how this community is pretty and beautiful.

>>26590036
>backlash is a few anons whining
Please no one gives a shit outside of here.

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>>26590128
>>26590148
>wild battle
>against a salamence
>both pokemon level is exactly 50

Are you two retarded?

>>26591498
>One is a lion and another is robot spider
>just a lion
How have people not noticed that it's a robotic lion?

>>26591337

Don't do this to me please..

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>>26589616
Because it was fine, you flashy colors loving kid

>>26589639

This thing seems like it's fighting for it's life while flying.

I think the trainers are just hiding in the side. Im pretty sure theyll be included

>>26591519
Remember the wild Tyranitar, Dragonite, and Metagross in Black and White via rustling grass?

>>26591498
>Metagross is Steel/Psychic
>Solgaleo is Psychic/Steel
>different typing

C'mon now

>>26589530
>always wanted to fly
>wished so hard it actually evolved flight
>expect it to not always fly around
if i could fucking fly id never touch the earth again

>>26590048
>>26590173
Yes and even more beyond that, but stop calling it 6.5 you fucking memes.

How can SOLgaleo, the SUN Pokémon, be weak to FIRE?

>>26591725
Can we stop this meme already?

>>26591519
Kek. It isn't like GF could spawn pokemon where ever they want.

>>26591725
well first of all

the sun isn't on fire nor is it made of fire

>>26591525
PLOT TWIST
Solgaleo and Lunala are man-made!

>>26591725
Please let this meme die.

>>26591409
This

>>26589530

I remember when Black and white used the exact same gen 4 sprites with extra movement

>>26591798
lava isn't made of fire and yet we have volcano Pokémon and slugma, torkoal, numel, and camerupt who even has their own mega.

>>26591966
We also have Volcarona who is also a Sun Pokemon.

How can SOLrock, a pokemon that is shaped like the sun, not be a FIRE type?

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>>26590877
Eelektross' animation is really cool and pretty awesome on its own, but it's not what Eelektross should be doing. He's not standing on his fins and using his arms as... arms like it should be, like it did in gen 5 and everything other then XY. It's an animation for another pokemon

>>26589530
THERE IS STILL HOPE

The release is nearly 6 months, the games must go gold about 1 month before release. So that leaves 5 months of development time.

We know that ground models exist, they're in Amie, so making them the standard models should only require a change in some lines of codes.

We need to make Gamefreak know of this issue. Tweet screenshots of retarded floating mons like Salamence and that Bananamon to Gamefreak developers and tell them that this must change!

WE CAN DO THIS

>>26592087
That's my main problem with Eelektross. They turned it in just another fish while it wasn't that.

>>26592093
The game has already been finished anon.

>>26592139
Nope, the release is in 6 months, games usually don't get the gold status 1 month before release. There's plenty of time.

>>26592139
Storywise probably but not beta testing and some things

>>26592164
>>26592183
Not him but this time frame is usually used for bug testing and other smaller things like minor overworld changes instead of changing the models in a game, which would take far too long and present more problems, there's zero chance of the game changing on such a level any time soon.

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ITS LITERALLY THAT EASY
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>>26592212
They already have the finished ground models, they just need to USE IT. It's worth a try.

>>26591519
They use a debug menu which can generate battles

>>26592224
>They already have the finished ground models
The models yes but they would need new animations for each and every flying pokemon in the game as well as actually putting them in, then there's bug testing for them.
It's not going to happen and whining on twitter isn't going to make it better.

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>>26592087
>>26592107
I hated the gen 5 animation for Eelektross. It looked too goofy for me.

>>26589576
How are these confirmed shit?

>>26591519
Are you new ? XY and ORAS did exactly the same, it's just for promotional material

>>26591537
You can see him saying "help"

I bitched and moaned about the asset reusing in BW and I was told to fuck off. So what?

>>26590159
What's wrong with Xatu? I can understand everyone wanting him to stand still in the position he's always in but this is fine too.

>>26592301
He took the whole "don't over hype" to it's extremes and decided to shit on it before it's out.

Once again, the problem here isn't the models but their animations. Seeing as these models are future-proofed, you'd hope that they'd build on them with better animations over time.

>>26592373
The problem is that more animations will only make the game chug harder.

>>26590117

>haxorus
>hydregion
>drudgedion

Salamence actually looks like a dragon you digimon autist

i don't get this. pls explain
ps. I haven't played XY yet

>>26591337
god battles would look so much better if the pokemon were scaled correctly against each other. why can't they do this, it can't be that hard

>>26591725
how can LUNAla the MOON pokemon be weak to MOONBLAST?

>>26592614
It's not though.

>>26592290
This. Not even trolling, but I hated Elektross when I initially encountered one in gen 5, his gen 6 model actually redeemed the design a lot in my eyes. I like how he moves and looks like an actual eel and not some weird onahole with the most autistic dance imaginable.

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>>26592687
>some weird onahole with the most autistic dance imaginable.

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>>26592766
>Spritwits will defend this

>>26592353
Xatu looks fucking awful flying, really any pokemon that looks like its constantly gliding should not have a flying model

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>>26592087
>then

>>26592788
>stiff and idiotic as fuck
>hurr but it's cuter that way
spritefags are fucking cancer

>>26592788
Jesus i forgot how awful this is
Then again the fact i prefer this to the 3d models animation really says something

>>26592087
>He's not standing on his fins
That's because they're fucking fins. You can't stand on fucking fins.

>>26592822
Shit taste?

>>26592529
pls

>>26592529
>>26592883
What do you mean?

>>26589530

Is frame rate improved? If so I think they made the right decision prioritizing other things. If not REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>26590048

It might as well be 6.5 since they literally decided to copy and paste the same models(granted I liked the models, but usually I would assume new gen=fresh start, but silly me).

>>26593132
When does this 6.5 meme end?
>they literally decided to copy and paste the same models
They did the same with gen 5. They literally just copied the sprites from gen 4 and animated them,

>>26592290
playing oras and seeing the gen 5 mons in 3d for the first time the 3d models help them a lot.

>>26592224
>>26589530
I don't get the hate for this. Salamance has wings. Isn't it only natural that it can fly?

>>26593132

Anon, why on fucking Earth did you think they would spend so much time making hundreds of ridiculously high polycount models if they weren't going to reuse them for more than one generation? The point was clearly so that they could be reused without looking dated.

>>26590094

This.

>>26593132
>but usually I would assume new gen=fresh start
You do realise the majority of gen 1-4 sprites were reused for Black and White right?
Also they used the overworld pokemon sprites they were making for the entralink in HG/SS.
Hell a lot of overworld sprites were also reused from gen 1 to 2.
Up until Gen 6 they even copied a lot of the code from gen 3.

Where did you get this stupid notion that they start totally fresh each gen?

>>26592598

Because they can't and fuck up the perspective

The 3D stadium games can get away with it because it's a rotated camera

But the main games and it's fixed scaling can't do whatever they want

>>26593203
This. The models are fine, good even, but the animations are shit. Fix the animations, and we won't even care if the models get recycled.

Polygon-ass gen 1 pokemon ripped straight from Stadium looked fine in Battle Revolution because they got re-textured, and had great animations to start with. The models we have will last for decades if GF doesn't shit the bed with implementing them.

>>26593250
Not to mention that the main factor is that it's on a handheld, Roselia was already impossible to see despite being on a TV. Think about Joltik on a small screen.

>>26590094
>The grounded animations ARE THERE though.
You do know the difference between animations and models right?

Or are you honestly stupid enough to believe Amie animations are adequate for battle?

>>26593280
I didn't think a heavy Pokemon stomping around 24/7 for no reason and the Pokemon that got a triple body through magnetism being separated was that great, honestly.

>>26593196
Yeah but the issue is that it doesn't fly. It's not flapping its wings or trying to stay aloft. It's just sort of... hanging in mid air, like it's being suspended from wires.

>>26592822
yeah, it says that youre a retard

>>26593436
So? Its just a childrens game don't try to apply logic to it.

>>26593436
>it's bad when they glide
>then it's bad when they actually fly
god

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>>26593280

>>26593132
We've been given the same 10X10 tiny ass item sprites for 10 years now, tho, and no one gives a flying fuckeroo

>>26591725
Because it's based on alchemy symbolism where a lion eating the sun represents purifying iron to steel, apparently

Doesn't explain why it gets a clear body reskin instead of something revolving around using fire to make itself stronger, however (Fuck, even a reskinned Flash Fire would work)

>>26593322
Well, he's kinda right, the basic grounded animation is here, the pokemon is standing and not doign anything, but it misses all the rest

>>26592818
Hey, sprites can be great

That said, BW is not an example of great sprites

Ground-based sprites for flying/levitating pogies makes no sense. They're immune to ground type for a reason. I'd be more outraged if they were on the ground.

>>26592224
>ground models
You mean ground animations, which are used for Amie primarily.
Also, NO THEY CAN'T just "use it", they would have to create new animation loop points / connect animations to eachother.
Anyway, a good amount of the Amie poses don't even fit for idle battle stances. Look at Yveltal's for fuck's sake.

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>>26589530
>She's going to buy the new pokemon game

>>26593495
See? Polygonal as shit, but decently textured, and with good animations if you bother to go look at them.

Models are potential, and animations act on that potential. The potential is there, just not being acted on.

Either that or GF is planning on people being stupid enough to mistake animations for models and slowly "improve" them over the next decade.

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Looks like they reduced the pixels a bit from Gen 6, although the dull colorization and floating still pisses me off

>>26593880
>reduced the pixels
What did he mean by this?

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Don't mind me. Just alleviating confusion.

This is what you'll always see in battle.

>>26593908
I think he meant pixelation

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>>26593880
You can't change the resolution of a screen, it looks less pixely because it's not a direct feed screenshot, but a vidéo, here's a real screen from SM

>>26593925
No changes.
See >>26593928

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>>26593910
However, there are models for the bird trio and others who are normally floating/flying. Seen here.

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>>26593938
That's their amie models, pic related.

>>26590126
>Circles will be there again

Thanks m8

>>26593975
Why can't they just use these in battles? Do they not know that everyone hates the flyers?

Or do japs like them?

I lik

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>>26593938
Well, I think birds pokemon should stay in the air
It looks ridiculous when Lugia and the other legendary birds are standing with their wings widely open doing nothing, same goes with Reshiram but that's just because bad design choices

>>26594017
That's what i'm wondering. GameFreak should keep the grounded models in battles but can still use the flying models for sky battles and soaring.

>>26594017
>Do they not know that everyone hates the flyers?
No one gives a shit about the models outside of here.

Also those are literally not meant for battles

>>26594060
No. They should finaly make pokemon with no levitate/flying type stay on ground and that would help making animations for those who need it.
I always hated how water pokemon float in the air.

>>26591337
Respect to Genius Sonority for keeping everything to scale but some of the smaller Pokémon looked really really weird.

>>26593694

Right on spot.

I'd be ok with Steel/Psychic with Flash Fire (or a simple immunity, something called SOLAR LIONISM).

>>26594017
See >>26593844

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>>26591537
It's based off the first dinosaur that kick-started the evolution towards birds over 150 million years ago. So would primitive flying not be obvious?

>>26594173
Or maybe Solar Forge, or Full Metal Forge

Something with Forge in it

Honestly that would have been really neat - Solgaleo with an ability that makes it immune to fire and maybe restores hp under sunlight? (Although god that would boost PDon even more in doubles wouldn't it?)

>models are almost identical to Gen 6's
Okay, I knew they'd be very similar, but come on. They don't even look adjusted for a new gen, its the exact same Salamence as in Gen 6, with the exact same problems. Models were a mistake.

>>26590048
Fuck off

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>>26594485
>almost identical
They are literally identical, anon. The game runs on the same engine as 6th gen, with seemingly no modifications. I guess all you're gonna have to hope for is some cool new changes to old mons.

>>26594485
Are you literally fucking retarded?

>>26589576
As an outsider to this board it is utterly baffling as to why you still post here if you don't like pokemon

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>>26589530
why did they do this?

>>26589530
AND THAT'S A FACT

I FOUND OUT

ANIMALS DON'T HELP

ANIMALS THINK

THEY'RE PRETTY SMART

>>26591537

Considering they were gliders incapable of powered, sustained flight. So no, flight of any kind shouldn't apply to this mon

>>26589530
what am i looking at

>>26596621
looks tropical

>>26592788
It can't be that ba- HOLY SHIT.
That's horrible.

>>26596959
This was such a weird animation and the pixellation was bad but I thought it was really cute how it just sorta flopped around like that, I wish we got a better version of that for XY instead of it just floating and strectched out into a stright line. That looked much worse, IMO

>>26597118
>it's bad when an eel looks like an eel

>>26597330
it's a lamprey though

>>26593158
>gen 5.
>They literally just copied the sprites from gen 4
>and animated them,
>literally a copy, except it is different

>>26597365
That doesn't make them different or change the fact that they reused them.

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>>26596959
That's not even close to the worst one in Gen V.

>>26597426
Wait, what's bad about it?

>>26589583
Only for the first battle.

>>26589530
>billion dollar franchise
>still using gen vi models

I knew they would do this lazy shit.

>people expect new models after 1 gen
I want them to do it, but these were made to be used for atleast 2 or 3 gens. People on /vp/ aren't actually retarded enough to think they'd do that, are they?

>>26597514
Or they just chose to put their budget and resources into other things rather than re-doing 800+ models that are fine.

>>26597514
>Still used the same sprites in gen 2
>still used the game gen 4 sprites in gen 5
How is this surprising?
Also literally every developer on the face of the planet does the same thing because it's a waste of money and manpower just to use models once and remake the exact same one one or two years down the line.

>>26589530
Do you think we're getting new animations at the very least? Some Pokémon having just one while others have four is pretty sad.

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>>26597572
>put their budget and resources into other things
>models that are fine
LOL

>>26597593
I have to clarify that with Gen 2 it was the overworld sprites with very slight alterations.
And with Gen 4 it was literally the same situation as it is now.

>>26597572
It's not the models that are the problem, it's the animations.
They could at least pose the models a bit differently to make it feel like a new game.

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>>26589530
Wow it's XY except the HP bars are fucking ugly and don't look like any of the originals.

>>26597603
The problem there is that the game chugs when they're barely moving.
We aren't going to get anything else until the next system rolls along.

>>26597597
No, you're right. It would be smarter to spend their budget re-doing everything from scratch again and giving us 70 new Pokemon.

>>26597623
>the game chugs when they're barely moving
I'm not saying they have to move more, just that they have to move differently.
Give them different stances. That's all I'm asking for.

>>26597593
Gen 2 had entirely new back and front sprites and gen 5 had all new backsprites, some new front sprites, and everything was animated.

Keep revising that history to suck GF's cock though.

>>26597654
see >>26597601
You fucking retard.
And having animations doesn't change the fact that they still reused all of the sprites from gen 4.

But hey keep revising that history to suck GF's cock though.

>>26597654
He was talking about Gen 2's overworld.

GF re-used the same box/party sprites for Pokemon for generations. As well as the item sprites. The Pokemon cries were too.

>>26597699
Oh yeah and don't forget those item sprites that they've been reusing since gen fucking 3.

>>26594118
Why didn't GF get them to help with the main games?

>>26597731
Because they didn't want to use models from nearly 20 years ago.

>>26597749
I meant with the scaling and animation.

>>26592893
why are people freaking out about salamance floating

>>26597712
The Poke Balls are still orange for some reason.

>>26597707
Ok. But we're not talking about party sprites. We're talking about in-battle.

>>26597792
How does that change the fact that they reused a mass of sprites?
You're literally just arguing for no reason now.

>>26597811
Because the vast majority of the game is spent in battle. No one gives a fuck about party sprites and no one is complaining about them being reused. I have no idea why you're even bringing it up.

>>26597426
>>26592788
I like both of these.

>>26592401
>Doesn't like any non-Gen V Pokemon.
>Has to shit on Gen V Pokemon like it proves a point

Kill this meme. Then kill yourself.

>>26589530
>GAMEFREAK DID NOT APPEAL TO MY UNDERAGE SHITTASTE REEEEE
Salamencefags on suicide watch

>>26597597
Models are fine.

Textures are way too washed out, and animations need variants.

>>26589650
>>26589898
Get fucking rekt you cock loving fag

>>26589530
Look at that dixie cup shit behind the info, did I just never notice that?

>>26589598
they already have models on land, they just need to animate them

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>>26589598
>>26589601
>>26592301
>>26595834
Nintendo shills confirmed

>>26592290
And the XY model looks so serious and intimidating, right?

>>26594081
This. The degree of autism in this thread amuses me.

This is reaching "muh following Pokemon" levels of autism, who fucking cares

>>26600890
yes I want big daddy Nintendo to read me a goodnight story and give me a kiss before sleeping.
But what does Nintendo have to do with Pokemon though?

>>26600904
A swimming lamprey looks a little more serious than a dancing one, yes.

>>26592401
>Hydreigon
>not a hydra
>not a 10/10 design

Anon I

>>26597330
Eelektross wasn't designed to be in that pose all the time.

>>26601794

hydreigon is a beach ball covered in sock puppets

>>26597330
It's not an eel. It's an Eelektross

>>26601877
Hydreigon is okay but Zweilous and Deino are top tier

>>26597606
>being surprised
Everyone expected that. That"s why people were calling it gen 6.5.

>>26591519
They just spawned something to beat up. Relax.

>>26589530
What's the problem of this? Seriously.

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>>26593196
That'd be true if it were actually flying instead of hovering.
pic related is an example of a good flying model.

>>26597330
They shrunk him down WAY too much. He's supposed to be 6 feet long.

Literal XY backgrounds with shittier paint blob UI

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>>26602535
It's ok here is your (you)
It isn't even the same background from XY and the HP bar is pretty sick

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>>26592087
>>26592107
>>26592290
>>26592687
>>26592835

But Eelektrik animation is original Eelektrik stance. Eelektross should have it's original stance with small changes.

>>26602671
It's a example. Eelektrik have the same stance but small changes to make it more natural. Eelektross have a new animation and it looks really tiny in battle.

>>26601794
I don't like its wings. As they are, they're just flesh ribbons that are somehow able to produce enough lift for that large body. Really my only fault with its design.

>>26592401
> Shitting Hydreigon and Druddigon

Kill yourself.

sprites are better than models

>>26602711
You're aware that Eelektrik isn't touching the ground in gen 6, right? Just like the other two. You know, Levitate.

>>26602825
They really aren't. In other games that actually had good spritework, like Street Fighter, maybe.

>>26602837
they are though

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>>26602831
I know. But that doesn't mean it couldn't have the same stance with different animation.

Btw, Gengar has levitate too.

>>26602874
>it couldn't have the same stance with different animation

I mean Eelektross

>>26602874
Vibrava and Gengar are just exceptions to the rule, all the other Levitaters levitate. Vibrava doesn't even have an excuse, at least Gengar on the ground makes sense because Mega Gengar is stuck there.

If Eelektross was on the ground you also would have to get Tynamo on it, and that wouldn't look good.

>>26602846
They actually aren't.

>>26589530
>being this autistic about a model that in no way affects gameplay
i'm still mad they didn't stick to sprites
but really though who the fuck cares

>>26589576
Can you tell me why them not fixing a few models makes it inherently a bad game? Or are you so autistic that it actually matters to you?

>>26603000
Because the models are lifeless and terrible.

>>26592399
That's not how animations work, chuckfuck

>>26602936
But I don't said Eelektross should be on the ground. Eelektross might be levitating with BW stance. Instead of jumping, it moves its fins.

The problem of the current animation is that it's completely different and looks weird and tiny. And, as someone has already said, now looks like another generic fish.

they actually are

you're mad??? Are you Max ????