Is Hoenn a tropical region? Friend says it isn't.

Hoenn isn't tropical at all. There's nothing about it other than diving which would support this.

Sub-tropical, like the real world counterpart

It's no more tropical than Kyushu. It doesn't even look tropical, really.

>>26538979
>rainforest (Fortree)
>no snow anywhere except in an underground cave
>warm waters, only Pokemon region with beaches full of people (Dewford, Slateport)

>>26538973
We couldn't know unless we saw a globe of the pokemon world (and not those weird thrown together maps) and could find the tropic areas on that globe and then see if hoenn fit in one of those areas.

"Tropical" doesn't necessarily mean palm trees or steamy jungles.

>>26539019
By tropical, I mean tropical climate. We'll probably never know if it's in a tropical section of the globe.

>>26538973
Our friend? Hello Manjome.

On the flora and fauna side, it's the region with most berry trees, followed only by Sinnoh.
There are multiple tropical Pokemon like Sceptile (Madagascar leaf-tailed gecko), Swampert (Mexican axolotl), Mightyena (African hyena) Ludicolo (Mexican pineapple), Breloom (Australian forest kangaroo) Slaking (South American giant sloth), Nosepass (Easter Island statue) and of course Tropius, the banana pokemon.

>>26539040
Nah lol.

Its a very warm, even hot region but not exactly tropical

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subtropics

>>26539386
Johto isn't subtropic, but it's supposed to be according to the real world map.
Also
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artistic_license

>>26538973
>Tropius's home turf.

>>26538973
It was based on Kyushu but climate wise it's closer to Okinawa

>>26539040
>Manjome
THUNDER

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>>26539019

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>>26540059
The funny thing is that Hoenn is the hottest region while Sinnoh is the coldest, and they're on the same line horizontally.

>>26542464
>that image

Fucking crazy, man.

>>26540059
>implying that's canon
>implying they didn't just put it in as a cool sign of respect to Serebii or out of sheer laziness
Yeah, nah

>>26540059
Sevii Islands aren't that far, are they?

>>26542464
Snow point and the postgame island are the bigger mystery here.

>>26538979

Take a >(you) lad

>>26543066
Probably has something to do with altitude and humidity.
The desert is to the other side of the mountain rage and volcano, and clouds are possibly in a lower altitude than the mountains, making it impossible for them to get to the other side. No humidity and geothermal energy from the volcano means heat.

Same thing happens in Hoenn when you think about it. The desert is between the volcano and moutains and more mountains to the other side. The entire route to the weather institute is a climbing route, with waterfalls and all. The mountains separating the desert from Fortree city must be big.
Same things happens in Chile, in the Atacama desert.

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>>26540059
This is the actual most accurate map we have

>>26543492
Hoenn looking pretty tropical
Is the far left one supposed to be Kalos?

>>26543492
Holy smokes that's atrocious

Who made this? And why were they proud of it?

>>26543518
>>26543535

Using entirely In-Game information.

>Part One:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E1aI4tDgDA

>Part Two:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJNYbQTFb84

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>>26543559
World map is Gen 7 canon, sorry bitch boy

>>26543583
The regions literally can't fit together like the real world dumbfuck.

Unova and Kalos would be sized ridiculously compared to the "Japan" Regions, and Hoenn isn't even facing north.

That's just a generic Globe because Game Freak likely doesn't have an actual PokéWorld map made.

But you'll ignore all of that and keep shitposting wont you?

>>26542464
This is so pixelated and low-res I don't think you can make any concrete connections here.

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>i-it's not the real world guys, i swear

>>26543619
>The entirety of France is equal in size to NYC, and four separate Japan regions
Keep being retarded

>>26543636
Game Freak don't use real world references anymore for a reason, fucktard. They even acknowledge the "Lightning American" in your picture in Gen 5, with an NPC wondering if Surge is UNOVAN. It's called a retcon.

>>26543616
Oh shit, disregard this post. I just noticed that it's EXACTLY the same as Serebii's fan-made map but just flipped horizontally.

Holy fucking shit.

>>26543662
>Game Freak don't use real world references anymore for a reason

>image has Gen 5 and Gen 6 stuff
>Gen 7 has the motherfucking world globe
denial

>>26543614
>Assuming North is on top on the in-game maps
The Pokemon world uses a different system, man

>>26543663
>GTS
Generic Globe. You click on it and set your IRL location. Note how "United States of America" and "France" aren't listed as Kalos or Unova.

>Anime
HAHAHA

>Another Anime
Also, this one doesn't even look like the real world. The fuck is that supposed to be?

>Gen 7 Globe
Same as point A. Just a generic recognizable Globe.

Game Freak has said numerous times that the geography of the Pokémon world is unique, and only loosely inspired by the real world.

>>26543559
While I don't NECESSARILY abide strictly to the real-world theory - I'm open to different interpretations - I feel like this guy is pulling stuff out of his arsehole. His reasoning for the cliff faces in Hoenn and Kalos is just pulled out of thin air, the Unova/Sinnoh stuff seems weakly linked at best, and I don't buy for a second that Sinnoh and Kalos are the same landmass however you spin it.

>>26543701
>Another Anime

It's Gen 6 announcement trailer, nigger

>doesn't even look like the real world

No wonder you don't like the real world theory, YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW THE REAL WORLD, lmaoo

>>26543694
>Hoenn not even facing North
You know, I used to think people were serious about this, but I am starting to be convinced that you're just a troll.

Please tell me you guys don't unironically think the Regions match up like that right?

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>>26543701

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>>26543690

>>26543718
It's pretty much confirmed in interviews and such, that the first 4 regions are Japanese regions

There's also the route system

Gen 1-4 has the same numbering system for routes
Gen 5 and 6 have different numbering systems

>>26543736
This picture has been posted 3 times now. Is it too hard to read the thread, or what?

>>26543758
Gen 7 confirms, beyond any shade of doubt, that the Pokemon world has the same geography. Sorry buddy, at least you tried.

>>26543754
Same National Dex though.

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>>26542464
While I think it's neat that Serebii's map was actually used in some official capacity, I don't think it's anything more than a friendly nod.

Personally I'm a supporter of the Earth globe theory; I'm aware that the region sizes don't exactly match but given the dialogue of NPCs over the course of the series I believe GF's overall intention was definitely to line the Pokemon maps up with their real world inspirations.

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>>26543694
I would imagine Hoenn would be the right way up, also Sevii was missing

Hoenn's moved down a bit because realistically I think it makes sense canon wise for it to loosely line up with the Sevii Islands, but other than that it's more or less still in it's real world position. Will fix up properly later m8

>>26543559
Using pokemon found in routes to justify things is iffy, but I agree with Sinnoh/Johto/Kanto/Hoenn placements.

>>26543583
Hoenn is shaped differently than Kyushu.
Ever Grande City is just three roads away from the main island, but the real life distance is more or less equal to going from NY to Florida.

>>26543847
>Hoenn is shaped differently than Kyushu.
Nope, it has the same shape, it's just rotated 90°

>>26543718
Find an official map of Hoenn with a compass rose. Alternatively, prove that the sun in Hoenn rises and sets the same way it does IRL.

I don't think we can assume that the Hoenn we know is oriented on the planet in the way we're inclined to think.

>>26543861
I mean the entire archipelago. There's a continental distance between Kyushu and Japan's southernmost city, Okinawa, which is removed in Pokemon.

>>26543881
>non-ironically thinking that GameFreak pays such attention to detail

>>26543886
>distance is different in Pokemon
who could have thought

next you are going to tell me Pallet has more than 2 houses...

>>26543890
Exactly.

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>>26543694
>>26543830
Sinjoh region when? Ripe for re-appearances of fan fave characters, more exploration of Arceus lore, cool local stuff like the Tohoku snow monsters, deep lore based on the 2011 earthquake

I'm not a pattern fag but if the "odd gens try new things, even gens play it safe" rule is really a thing then Sinjoh in gen 8 would be the tits

So, we're just going to ignore that Kalos, Unova, Johto, Hoenn, Kanto and Sinnoh, are all approximately the same size, yet this literally can NOT in the slightest match up IRL?

Of course we are. Otherwise we'd have to accept that the Regions can't match up with their IRL locations. And, well, we can't have that now, can we?

>>26543938
Quit crying, autist.

>>26543903
If there's a continental distance in something like that, chances are there are massive distance differences elsewhere.

There is a huge chance of Deoxys being created from the Kalos Civil War, since its Pokedex entries talk about being hit by a laser. Moreover, meteors in ORAS are Megastones, and megastones were established to be created from Xerneas' and Yveltal's power. A meteor impact in France would never send debris to southern Japan.
If the distance is changed for that, the placement must be different.

>>26543955
>Oh shit a valid point!
>SHITPOST MODE, ENGAGE

>>26543938
You're assuming that each region map is drawn at the same scale, but we actually can't prove that they are.

>>26543938
Plus all the In-Game dialogue and shit that says otherwise.

But nope, there "Real Earth" theorists will just stick their fingers in their ears the moment any proof comes up discrediting their theory.

>>26543636
None of those regions will ever appear in Pokemon with those names. When a region based on China/India/South America appears, it will not have the same name.
Unless Pokemon is some post-apocalyptic real world where Groudon, Kyogre and Regigigas decimated continents as we know them and only information was left from those places were cultural, then those are just references that the real players could understand. Giving real names to those locations is like making Star Wars aliens speak English. It's not what they speak in reality, but the media has to have meaning to the audience.

Shit, maptism is an actual thing? I thought it was just a new form of shitposting that you faggots we're trying on for size a few weeks ago, but it's looking more and more like it's actually real

For the record, it's pretty clear that Game Freak intentionally made the connections vague, such that you can make your own interpretation. None of you in this thread are 'right' about your maptism, but I don't suppose that'll stop you from arguing it to the ends of the Earth regardless

Carry on, folks

>>26543987
We can, since Cities and Towns are kept at a consistent size in Pokemon, both in the map and in game.

>>26544025
Retcons have already occurred. The man in the Pokemon World Tournament in Black 2/White 2 that describes the gym leaders and champions in the lobby says that Lt. Surge is from Unova. I don't need to explain any further, right?

>>26543492
Everything is too big I think. And Hoenn is way too far away. Like holy shit.

>>26538973
What's that big green thing below Fortree?

Am I meant to think that's typical filler jungle? Because its a lot of shades lighter green than any of the other filler forest, plus it seems to clump

>>26538973
Friend's a faggot

>>26543711
>lmaoo
Not the other anon but I would just like to pose a friendly reminder that you must 18 or older to use 4chan.

>>26543927
>Evacuated cordoned off town to the east
>Tonnes of irradiated pokemon
>Sudden unexpected Fallout crossover

>>26543955
Nice argument.

>>26543986
Don't flatter yourself, retard. Your "valid point" has already been disputed and responded to on countless occasions, including in this very thread.

Wait, people unironically believe that the RL world has the same geography as the Pokemon world? Is it even possible to be so autistic?

>>26544259
THIS

>>26544259
not same, similar

>>26544128
Yes, Hoenn seems to have unexplored areas such as hills/mountains. Even next to Route 119 there's mountains next to a desert. >>26543480

>>26544259
see >>26544053

Game Freak blatantly stays vague about this shit on purpose. Having strong unmoving opinions on either side of this """"""""debate"""""""" is heavily autistic

>>26543535
>>26543662
I'm so glad people are getting tired of 1:1fags

>>26543675
The Gen V and Gen 6 stuff is a pokedex entry of a Gen 1 pokemon. The Pokedex entries for old pokemon stopped being unique since Gen 4, and are now just repeated from older Gens

>>26543718
heres a (you) my man.

>>26544891
Thanks fám

>>26543938
>>26543987
We can approximate though, with landmarks like the mountains.

The mere idea that Unova is in the same place and is it's natural size means it cant be the real world

>>26543614
>Unova and Kalos would be sized ridiculously compared to the "Japan" Regions

Not necessarily, there's no scale to compare them.

The regions don't have to all be similar in size.

>>26538982
>>26539019
>>26539039
>>26539252
>>26539386

Pretty much /thread.
It's warmer and looks subtropical yes. That doesn't mean it's along a tropic, nor does it look like a fully tropical region.
So technically no it's not, but in colloquial terms it's close enough.

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>TROPical
>TROPius

I think we're done here.

>>26544939
The "Trop" part can also be a reference to the troposphere