HGSS

Platinum
BW2

And I know it's not fair to mention hacks, but Sacred Gold/Storm Silver makes the original feel unplayable by comparison

>>26458086
Gold, Silver and Crystal were better

>>26458160
The sky is green

>>26458123
Seconded BW2. What do those hacks add that makes it better?

>>26458086
you simply cant

Why are Gens IV and V so perfect bros, that mix of nostalgia and non retarded additions was fucking great.

>>26458086
Not even Gen IV's best game

>>26458086

These are not the best.

But they are the ones I enjoyed the most the first time I played them.

That interface was near perfect.

>>26458086
>muh following Pokemon!

Literally the only good thing about HG/SS

>>26458184
https://gbatemp.net/threads/pok%C3%A9mon-sacred-gold-storm-silver.327567/

>>26458234
>gen 4
>non retarded additions
Nice joke there anon

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>>26458267
>16 badges
>customizable safari zone
>the Pokemon that follow you all have a pick up bonus ability
>GB sounds
that's not all there's more but I don't remember

The level curve is unacceptable. Bugsy has a Lv 17 Scyther, and I'm stuck grinding on Lv 6 Oddish?

Kanto is so fucking boring, I still haven't finished it.

>>26458363
You can crush that lv17 Scyther with a mere lv11 Geodude, anon. Get your shit together.

>>26458344
>>customizable safari zone that takes months to see changes in the pokemon available and also doesn't have enough space to make it look good
>>the Pokemon that follow you all have a pick up bonus ability for contest items that are entirely useless and berries
>GB sounds that can't even replicate the original sounds properly
As for the badges, that's just straight battling that panders to nostalgia. Remove the nostalgia factor and you have nothing.

>>26458377
>game forces you into using a specific team or waste time mindlessly grinding
HG/SS confirmed for shit

>>26458383
>that panders to nostalgia

No shit it panders to nostalgia, it's a REMAKE

>>26458392
>WAAAA I cannot beat a lv17 Scyther with my lv6 Bellsprout superbro
Just fucking use geodude, cyndaquil/quilava, hoothoot w/ peck, pidgey w/ gust and box them later YOU FUCKING MORON

>>26458160
This.

>>26458392
It doesn't. Use tactics. Lower defence and attack, confuse, status effects.

In other words: git gut

>>26458403
You do realise that the nostalgia point is the only thing that makes it relevant right?

> it's a REMAKE
Not an excuse, that just makes it worse.

>>26458408
>use some garbage team to get past the hard part you guys!
Dumbass.

>>26458408
>being forced into using a team you don't want to
How can you not see that this is bad game design?

>>26458415
>It doesn't. Use tactics. Lower defence and attack, confuse, status effects.
That still requires you to grind anon.
You could be the king of pokemon and still won't win because you lack the stats to back it up.

>>26458415
>lowering stats and confusing bugsy's scyther
>u-turn, the mon

You've played the game, right?

>>26458422
Don't say hard anon, they're going to think HGSS is actually difficult and not just tedious as fuck

All those people talking about BW and BW2 when i crushed the elite 4 with only one Pokemon at the league lvl (55-60~).

>>26458443
You're right.

>>26458447
What?

>People does not use the emulator speed up feature to grind.

Retards.
Still, I have to accept: the game is boring desu and lacks intersting pokemon in the start.
Also: Chikorita

>>26458431
Well I've never had trouble beating stuff like that with any team without grinding.

>>26458422
>>26458431

Well, if you can't beat a lv17 Scyther WITH THIS MOVESET
>U-turn
>Quick attack
>Leer
>Focus Energy
you can go fuck yourselves. I beat bugsy with a lv16 Totodile, a lv8 Bellsprout and a lv9 Hoothoot and a lv9 Slugma.
I bet you even whine about gen6 low-level difficulty, faggots.

>>26458465
>everyone plays on an emulator
Also if you need to speed up the game that just means it's fucking bad.

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>>26458447
>he thinks he did something special
You can solo every E4 in every game by just being 5-10 levels above them

>>26458465
If you're using an emulator, never need tk grind. Just quicksave before using a move and keep loading it untill you get crit.

>>26458484

>Oh boo! My paid gaaame!
C'mom dude, speed up the game is essencial to ANY generation, if don't, the game sucks in boredom.

>>26458477
Back off anon, he use TWO FUCKING BEASTS like Metapod and Kakuna to let you setup like hell prior to that bloody Scyther!

>>26458503
Are you retarded or something?
How does speeding up the game negate the fact that without it it's fucking dull as shit compared to the other games?

>>26458490
Well you must be dumb to understand what I said in this way.
I'm saying the E4 in BW(2) is so bad you can solo it without even grinding before going. That's some great ending for my Pokemon adventure. I was so proud going to the champion temple after i crushed them... You dumbnon.

>>26458521

Well, some feature like Safari Zone makes the game proud, besides that issues.
Still, I'll tive you that.

>>26458477
You can also use Mareep, Sanshrew and Onix. You actually have plenty of choice, anti-HGSS confirmed for embarrassing scum.

>>26458419
Actually, I love HG&SS and I never played the originals because my parents didn't buy videogames until Sapphire

>>26458533
>I'm saying the E4 in BW(2) is so bad you can solo it without even grinding before going.
You can do that in literally every game. Except HGSS because of the shitty level scaling.

>>26458363
>not picking cyndaquil best starter

>>26458558
With which Pokemon can you solo those E4 with?

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>>26458561
>using starters on a replay

>>26458582
What do you mean "which Pokemon"?
You can just pick your team and get going. It's fucking pokemon dude.

HM slaves in HGSS are an issue too

>>26458600
Do you know what SOLO means? I'm saying you have ONE Pokemon and you use it to beat the whole E4 with it, and without being overlevel.
The BW E4 was really really bad.

>>26458558
>I'm too much of a scum to beat HGSS's E4 without grinding
>better shit on the game level curve

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>>26458533
>All those people talking about BW and BW2 when i crushed the elite 4 with only one Pokemon at the league lvl (55-60~)
This is what you said. You didn't even try to convey the correct meaning to your post, probably because you lack the proper knowledge of english grammar and syntax.
Also my point still stands: you can do that in every game

>>26458086
you fucking cant.

>>26458618
BW/2ers are such butt hurt faggots. Gen 5 didn't even have a safari zone

>>26458618
Thank you grammar synthax nazi, even though I couldn't care less.
So, as I said, tell me the name of ONE Pokemon for each generation with which you can beat the E4 of his generation being on the same level as their Pokemons.

>>26458615
Okay fine, just pick a Pokemon and get to it.
This isn't a special trait to gen 5 you know.

Hell I soloed the gen 1 E4 with an underlevelled Parasect. You can do this shit in every game.

>>26458637
>GF finally got rid of a shitty feature
Yeah?
Did you forget that HGSS introduced the worst version and it pissed everyone off because it was so obtuse?

>>26458640
I had a level 55 Scrafty when I first went to the E4.

Sure. Your Parasect was around lvl 50 or under and you soloed the water/ice/psy, fight/rock/ground, ghost/poison and dragon type. Sure?

>>26458639
On the top of my head, they are probably not all accurate:
Gen 1: Alakazam
Gen 2: Suicune
Gen 3: Swampert
Gen 4: Empoleon
Gen 5: Scolipede
Gen 6: Aegislash

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>>26458234
They're the tipping point.

I just wish gen 7 would blow everything out of the water.

>>26458687
You might be right for Alakazam but he is so fragile I still doubt it if he wasn't overleveled.
Playing with legendaries...
Swampert is probably too slow and not sturdy enough to be able to do it.
Let me doubt your Penguin.
Did you even try?
Implying gen 6 is difficult anyway.

>>26458422
>OP tries to make a point that is generally agreed upon: HGSS level scaling sucks
>but you can just use this, I never had to grind I used this tactic
Every. Single. JRPG. Thread. Ever. Yes if you know all the tactics beforehand the game is easier. But then you wouldn't have to play it anymore. Then you might as-well watch a guide

>>26458737
I'd take a little grinding over finishing the game in a day without any difficulty like I did with XY.

>>26458759
Grinding isn't difficulty. It's tedium.

>>26458737
THE GAME GIVES YOU 4 FUCKING MONS TO BEAT BUGSY
GEODUDE
ONIX
SLUGMA
CYNDAQUIL
TWO OF THEM DOESN'T EVEN REQUIRE A CATCH
>b-b-b-but what if HG/SS is my first pokemon g-
THEN READ THE FUCKING MANUAL
LOOK A THE TYPE CHART YOU FUCKING RETARD

>>26458770
Read >Yes if you know all the tactics beforehand the game is easier. But then you wouldn't have to play it anymore. Then you might as-well watch a guide

>>26458770
Actually three of them, you can trade a Bellsprout for an Onix at Violet City. Plus, a traded mon requires less grinding. But, you know
>herr derr I'm forced to use a specific mon to beat the hardest part in vidya history derrrrp
so here we go again.

>>26458782
The fuck anon, I didn't learn to drive with a fucking bend on my eyes, I read the fucking "Hot to drive without killing people" book before. You just have to look at a chart, christ, you can't complain of trial&error if you are an illiterate

>>26458810
meant *How, but "hot" is equally pleasing.

>>26458810
read >>>26458782

>>26458824
>please anon who is quoting X, read X before posting

You must be a very special human being.

>>26458676
>I had a level 55 Scrafty when I first went to the E4.
>Literally SE to 3 of the 4 members
No shit you soloed it.

> Your Parasect was around lvl 50 or under and you soloed the water/ice/psy, fight/rock/ground, ghost/poison and dragon type. Sure?
Are you just butthurt now or what?
Because Gen 1 was hilariously easy.

>>26458086
>I'm not blinded by nostalgia
It's nice they remade your favourite game from childhood, I liked it back then too... All the same, Platinum is much better and not just a remake with some gimmicky bonuses.

>>26458086
Because Black 2 and White 2 are way better.

>Infinite TMs
>Moving items in party
>Automatic Repel question box
>Black Tower/White Tree
>Battle Subway
>Pokemon World FUCKING Tournament
>More Pokemon
>Better story
>Better front graphics
>Better routes
>Better difficulty (selectable hard mode)
>Poke Studios
>Join Avenue
>Seasons

>>26458842
And it's not normal. The type coverage is shit in BW E4. I didn't even know what I would face in BW E4 and ended up really easy.

You sure are a bad liar Anon. Parasect has 30 speed. How can you even beat the ice type E4?

>>26458895
>And it's not normal.
Yes it is, it's a pokemon game anon, they aren't hard at all.

> Parasect has 30 speed. How can you even beat the ice type E4?
80 Special, giga drain and retarded AIs. Not to mention they can't do shit with the available moves.
Anything with over 70 special can demolish the game by the way stop thinking speed matters in the main game.

>>26458945
Every single E4 was way more challenging the first time i did them. Except XY. No, it's not normal.

Parasect has 60 special. Wasn't Giga drain power something like 60? With 5 PP?
Dewgong has 70 special. Knows Aurora beam.

>>26459039
>Every single E4 was way more challenging the first time i did them
That just tells us that you're terrible at Pokemon if you found any one of them particularly difficult.

>Parasect has 60 special
It was 80 anon.
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Parasect_(Pok%C3%A9mon)#Base_stats

>Wasn't Giga drain power something like 60? With 5 PP?
Yes but you make it sound like PP recovery items were in short supply.

>Dewgong has 70 special. Knows Aurora beam.
Dewgong has 95 special anon. But it doesn't help because of the
1) Terrible AI that rarely used it anyway
2) No maxed out stats

It wasn't difficult anon.
Pokemon is never difficult

>>26458833
read >>>26458824

>>26458874
makes me sad there's no hack tools for gen v yet. Gen 3 has Fairy Type and 721+ pokemon at this point. And they can't do that with gen 5.

>>26459108
>I could beat the game by cheating
Anon, with items you can beat the game with a level 1 pokemon. Jesus

>>26458363
>>26458392
>>26458431
>>26458422
>>26458558
>>26458737
>>26458782
I bet you love E4 with 4 pokémon, Exp Share on and free legendary pokémon too to make the game normal difficulty.
I hate people like you so fucking much.

>>26459279
read >>26458824

>>26459108
Giga Drain didn't even exist in Gen I. If you're talking about FRLG, Dewgong had Ice Beam.
Sure you could Spore and Mega Drain the guy until death, but Jynx/Lapras will just Blizzard Parasect in its face.

>Terrible AI
The AI was terrible, yes, but it always used a move that was able to hit SE back then. So Dewgong will spam Aurora Beam against a Parasect.

>>26459283
Read >>26459283

Because Gen 2 is fucking garbage that's why

>HURR WE GET TO GO TO KANTO

Who the fuck cares

The Pokemon are trash, the vareity is literally Gen 1.5

It's shit anon

It's the dictionary definition of Nostalgia goggles

>>26459108
Sure Anon, whatever you say, stay delusional.

Yeah as a 6 years old playing Pokemon for the first time on my gameboy color, I did had some difficulty.

Parasect would still be OHKO by any ice type move, and looking at its speed, I doubt it didn't happen to you.

I'm sure you could afford the luxe to use an item to restore your PP when you get OHKO by any Pokemon she had.

Yeah, i guess she never used any ice type moves when she's an Ice trainer.
Oh, maxed out stats, so you IV/EV selected and trained your Pokemon just for the adventure? Looks like some hardcore player. Of course the game wouldn't oppose any difficulty to a pro like you.

I just don't find BW2 as fun as HGSS.

Does that make me a pleb?

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>>26458086
If you've never played gen 2, you can argue that.