Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread

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NEXT: POCKET MONSTERS XY&Z28: THE WINDING WOODS... THE DAWN OF EVOLUTION! (MAY 26TH)
>Following the Eisetsu Gym match, Satoshi disappeared into the forest all by himself. And then Gekkouga ends up disappearing as well, making Pikachu and the others worried. Then a storm suddenly starts up! What will happen to Satoshi and Gekkouga!?

>Summary:
>Satoshi has disappeared into the forest at night all by himself. When he hasn't returned by morning, Pikachu and the others decide to wait for him. But then a massive storm suddenly arrives! Serena and the others get worried and set off together to search for Satoshi. Meanwhile, Satoshi has realized something while interacting with the Pokémon in the forest. And then, appearing before him, is...

>Voice Cast:
>Rica Matsumoto: Satoshi
>Ikue Ohtani: Pikachu
>Mayuki Makiguchi: Serena
>Yuki Kaji: Citron
>Mariya Ise: Eureka
>Megumi Sato: Dedenne
>Megumi Hayashibara: Musashi
>Shinichiro Miki: Kojiro
>Inuko Inuyama: Nyarth
>Yuji Ueda: Sonansu
>Kenta Miyake: Onvern
>Kiyotaka Furushima: Fiarrow
>Kensuke Sato: Rentorar
>Miyako Ito: Pumpjin
>Chinatsu Akasaki: Joy
>Unsho Ishizuka: Narration

UPCOMING SHIT:

POKÉMON NO UCHI ATSUMARU? EPISODE 34 (May 29th)

XY&Z029: Ash Greninja VS Mega Abomasnow! The Giant Water Shuriken Triggers!! (Jun 2nd)
>After interacting with the Pokémon in the forest, Ash has matured a bit further. No longer lost on what to do, Ash once again issues a battle. Ash summons up everything he has gained so far on his journey: The knowledge, the experience and the memories made with the Pokémon. But the ultimate opponent appears before him: Mega Abomasnow.

XY&Z030: Find Carbink! Goodra and Dedenne!! (Jun 9th)
>On their way to Lumiose City, Ash and his friends decide to stop by the wetlands where Goodra lives. Ash and the others are delighted at seeing Goodra again, but then trouble suddenly arrives! Incredibly, a single Carbink appears to be going on a rampage in the wetlands. Ash and his friends attempt to stop the Carbink together with Goodra and the wetland Pokémon, but then Team Rocket show up.

DREADREA (BY SERENA, CV MAYUKI MAKIGUCHI):
http://www.megafileupload.com/aynY/DreaDrea_(Serena,_CV_Mayuki_Makiguchi).aac

VOLCANION AND THE INGENIOUS MAGEARNA MANGA CHAPTER 1:
http://imgur.com/a/PAdz8

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>yfw da Luna wins da Satoshi

Well, the thread's better and now the shitpost thread's OP came here to post his bait chart again.

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:^)

>>26440008
>bait chart
>implying it isn't 100% accurate

Will Ash defeat Shota in the league?

>>26440008
It's sadly accurate no matter who posted that and you know it

>>26440024
Good thing it isn't.
That's why it's called a bait chart.

>>26439732
I'd actually suggest that acted as a wake-up call for people that wanted something else to win. Shit like Meloetta hasn't had any distro for ages, so there's a good chance of people rallying behind that.

>>26440059
It is accurate. Just look at the other thread if you want proof.

>one line in the OP changed but the new sub link is still there
>people start shitposting and spamming porn

>>26440060
The results were after three weeks of voting and there was only one week left.

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>>26440077

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>>26440077
C U T E
U
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I really hope something like this happens.

>>26440058
>>26440084
It'd be accurate if not for the fact that the OP was changed on purpose and if it weren't someone trying to shitpost with it they'd have fixed it.

>>26440009
dumb foxposter

>>26440084
This. I'm not a shipfag but I find that "it sure looks that way" cringe as fuck everytime a new thread is up. And yet you don't see me spamming porn to get them deleted.

>>26440060
Meloetta is already scheduled for distrubution at the end of the year though.

>>26440121
And that it's obviously OP spamming porn there to falseflag

>>26440145
Not in Japan.

>>26440146

What leap of logic even leads you to that conclusion? Holy fuck.

And stop spamming spoilers for attention you insipid reddit fucktard.

>>26440145
That's for the west.

>>26440121

Literally the only things that matter in the OP are the links.

>>26440157
>>26440191
Surely Japan must have something similar for the 20 year anniversary?

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>>26440160
Are you really being that daft about what happens in the threads?

>>26440077
DON'T LOOSE YOUR WAY

>>26440198
They don't, but most of the mythicals have already been distroed this gen.

>>26440205
Are you?

The only reason porn is being spammed is because amourfags want the thread to get deleted since their precious line in the OP was changed.

You retards are so delusional you act as if everything bad that happens is done by ONE poster because you're so precious and holy you fags can't be the ones doing it right?

>>26439963
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>>26440205
That's him

What are the angry territorial pokemon in the newer generations? Like how beedril, spearow and ursaring and that wild tyranitar were.

just wondering because i watched the tyrantrum episode and was surprised they were so gentle

Why is Ash such a bad trainer?
What its making him unable to achieve his potential?
His shitty training methods?
His lack of constant training?
His lack of strategic battling?
His ignorance of using
His inability to continue with just pikachu when he moves to other regions?
His utter incomprehension of the usefulness of In-battle effect items?

Literally what a shitty Ash is

>>26440241
They went back to Beedrill.

How do we fix Ash-Greninja and the XY Companions' screentime?

>>26440241
Tyrantrum was raised in a lab, so it isn't really a wild one.

As for territorial Pokemon, you still got your Beedrill and Ursaring. Pangoro kind of falls into this when the food got stolen back in the Bonnie and Meowth episode.

>>26440260
We don't.

>>26440241
There's been two episodes about pissy Pangoro so far.

>>26440231
I'm asking you because I've seen who the fuck does this shit and how much time he spends here. This isn't even about amourfags, it's his fucking M.O.

>>26440279
One of the pissy Pangoro episodes was really about how everyone just kept doing shit on it rather than it being territorial.

Inkay sprays ink on the face, Meowth lands on Pangoro's head, Team Rocket supposedly bullying the Pancham, and Chespin throwing a twig at it.

The second time was about food being stolen but they went after everyone.

>>26439956
Why is Pikachu such a jobber this season?

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>>26440332
Inkay was one suicidal motherfucker.

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>>26440120
Thursday can't come soon enough

Such forced drama, such forced bullshit.

>>26440051
Nope. The whole point of Shota is to have him turn from a nub trainer who admires Ash, into a competent trainer who will be the reason Ash can't win this regions league. I'm not looking forward to the shitstorm.

>>26440098
>>26440120
What was it?

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>>26440205
>>26440237

I swear to fucking god the both of you faggots carry on this perpetual circlejerk in the threads where you whine about "the shitposters" and enable each other's insanity. One faggot who thinks every person he doesn't like is a single poster with a dozen fucking personas apparently, and one spoiler spamming newfag sucking him off, validating his shit with his own passive aggressive third party spectator garbage.

Both of you make these threads fucking unbearable, moreso than any legitimate shitposter. Just because you are in here literally all day long doesn't mean that every person you dislike is also one person who is in here all day. The biggest irony is that you insist people are samefags based on "posting style" when you two have the most unmistakable brand of posting faggotry. Get the fuck over yourselves.

Ash is such a lame trainer.
No wonder why he's going to lose the league.

>>26440382
Ash being hugged by greninja and Pikachu

No clue why it got deleted

>>26440372
The point of Shota is going the distance against his sempai on a full 6v6 battle. Like Rocky vs Apollo (the first one).

>>26440372
Other way around. He gets good but will still end up losing to Ash. Shota's win even came from Ash being distracted and internal conflict. Ash is getting over that so by the league Shota's pretty screwed.

DIGIVOLVE

INTO CHAMPIONS

DIGI-MODIFY

Unless Shota stops following the path of the Satoshi he will never be a competent trainer who knows everything.

>>26440448
Paul pls

I need Ash vs Shota at the league to end with Mega Sceptile launching his tail missile, Ash Greninja appearing to get impaled only for it to be revealed as a Double Team clone and for the real Ash Greninja appearing, grabbing the tail and throwing it back at Mega Sceptile. Would look a lot cooler than simply ending it with a giant shuriken to the face.

I wonder if ash-pikachu will be a thing some day

>>26440448
>>26440458
Well, the thing is that he's been specifically building his team to counter Ash, as opposed to building it to be a good team in general.

>>26440444
>Ash will never take it a step further and biomerge with Greninja

>>26440249
>Why is Ash such a bad trainer?
He's not
>What its making him unable to achieve his potential?
His need for traveling with companions
>His shitty training methods?
His abstract training methods are what make his Pokemon so much stronger than others
>His lack of constant training?
He trains constantly
>His lack of strategic battling?
Using Iron Tail on the ground to knock out a Pokemon using Dig or using the smoke created from Water Shurikens exploding to launch a surprise attack on the opponent is pretty strategic
>His ignorance of using
???
>His inability to continue with just pikachu when he moves to other regions?
What
>His utter incomprehension of the usefulness of In-battle effect items?
No one uses items in battles in the anime

>Literally what a shitty Ash is
What

>>26440478
Ash Chu is already a thing

Didn't Shota said that he no longer admires Ash?

>>26440508
What?

>>26440508
He literally thinks to himself:
>"It's fine. The person I admire so much will definitely win. I... I'll wait. Let us meet at the league."

>>26440521
>watching shitsubs

>>26440387
I'm not even here all day. The majority of the time I don't even get to be here until after late in the day.

You just pick up on the crap after you get a guy admitting it himself and every fucking day you see the same shit at the same time. Everyone picked up on it being the same guy except you apparently.

>>26440499
>Ash Chu
>Not Serena Chu

>>26440528
I think adamant translated that

>>26440499
I mean as a synchro

>>26440521
>Shota doesn't see 100% synchro Ash-Greninaj
>he doesn't see Goodra

I'm calling this right now, it will all come down to whether Hawlucha decides to job or not at the league. He's literally the key to all of this.

>>26440552
>Serena chu
Please stop

>>26440480
It's going to bite him in the ass because Ash will out-ruse him and he'll get put down by some other trainer because of that. Paul's 6v6 team was specifically designed to counter Ash though.

>>26440528
I know enough nip to understand that.

>>26440553
Adamant isn't the only person in this thread with at least a very basic knowledge of Japanese.

>>26440552
Why is Serena trying to ntr Pikachu from Ash?

Ash will lose the league due his shitty team based on 3 jobbers, Pikachu and that frog that will kill him if it dies.

>>26440580
Definitely. As >>26440561 points out, Shota doesn't know about Goodra, and that WILL hurt his carefully planned Anti-Ash team.

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>>26440587
Hey senpai no need to be upset I just misremembered

We were so close /padt/

>>26439956
How different would it be if Ash had Guilmon as his starter instead of Pikachu?

I mean in terms of interactions of course.

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>>26440599
>ntr Pikachu from Ash
>not making a menage a trois from the beginning with Ash and Pikachu

>>26440496
>His abstract training methods are what make his Pokemon so much stronger than others
a) He neglects most of his pokemon while they aren't with him, no training, no breeding, no nothing. b)He only trains 6 pokemon at the time c)Even if he does train his 6 pokemon, he'll eventually leave them at Oak for a good time and never use them constantly in battle again.
d) Ash's pokemon acquire little to nothing of experience, Ash is more focused on traveling or helping third parties that improving himself.

>He trains constantly
a)Fact: Ash travels and helps out third parties more than he trains

>No one uses items in battles in the anime
They aren't illegal to use

remember the out of context shitposter

>>26440606
>3 jobbers

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>>26440610
>Goodra is what literally shits on keikaku

>Ash sends Noivern out against Alan
>narrowly loses
>he tells Noivern this battle won't prove pointless
>three episodes later Noivern battles another Steel type ands wrecks it, proving Ash right
Based bat.

>>26440644
>a)
>no training
They obviouly train, it isn't shown most of the time due to plot purposes.
>no breeding
>implying the anime cares about breeding

>b)
>Implying that's a bad thing

>c)
What the hell does it have to do with how he does in the league?

>d)
Read a)

>they aren't illegal to use
Nobody cares about in-battle items in the anime, except for Mega stones.

>>26440682
Shota fighting Alan when?

>>26440550

I know there are actual shitposters here you retarded faggot, what's not right is lumping in every single poster you don't like with "that one shitposter." It's fucking deranged, and half the time just used to avoid responding to criticism. There is a distinction between shitposting, genuine contrary opinions and humor, but you fail to draw it, and just delude yourself with these pathetic "callouts" to protect your ego.

To reiterate, get the fuck over yourself.

I find it a bit disappointing how no adult has warned Ash against using Ashninja too much yet, not that many know about about it or the mechanics of it for now. What if Greninja ultimately gets forcibly Oaked or left at the ninja village because it's become hazardous to both their healths?

>>26440644
>He neglects most of his pokemon while they aren't with him, no training, no breeding, no nothing.
He isn't with them so there is no way for him to train or breed them. That's like saying you neglect your family because you're at College.
b)He only trains 6 pokemon at the time
When? In every region he's been in besides Kalos, Ash has trained more than 6 Pokemon.
c)Even if he does train his 6 pokemon, he'll eventually leave them at Oak for a good time and never use them constantly in battle again.
When? He's used every single Pokemon at Oak's in some way after he's left them
>d) Ash's pokemon acquire little to nothing of experience, Ash is more focused on traveling or helping third parties that improving himself.
This entire Greninjash plot completely falsifies your statement.
>a)Fact: Ash travels and helps out third parties more than he trains
Fact: You spend more time in your life not eating than eating.
>They aren't illegal to use
We don't know this since no one has ever used items in battle.

Talonflame fourth move when? Or is it peck?

>>26440718
You don't honestly believe Ash will feel pain after perfecting the form, do you?

>>26440718
I wonder if Wulfric will say something about it in the rematch. I get the feeling the shared pain issue will be somewhat mitigated once full synchro is achieved though.

>>26440718
As of now, it appears he just gets paralyzed and blacks out for a moment, which they probably don't see as actually hazardous.

>>26440718
If froge gets Oak'd, I hope it is because it loses its synchro powers.

>maximum synchro achieved
>Ash and Greninja become literally one being
>Final Water Shuriken Greninja

>doing 200% synchro burns their power permanently

>>26440508
He does. But he didn't care for the way Ash battled this time. He was cocky, and far too reliant on Greninja.

>>26440737
Either Razor Wind or Double Team got replaced by Brave Bird upon evolution. Since they're both flying type, I think it was probably Razor Wind, so the unknown fourth move should be Double Team.

>>26440717
The shitposters are real, but like you said, they've given amourfags an excuse to dismiss any post they dislike as made by The Shitposter. So I don't see them letting it go anytime soon.

>>26440610
And that's assuming Ash doesn't pull a DP and use his boxed pokemon

>>26440718
Well Joe Yabuki never knew he was diagnosed with major punch drunk syndrome until he was told by Yoko prior to the final fight.

*wink* *wink* *nudge* *nudge*

>>26440815
>Sceptile VS Sceptile

>>26440765
I hope if it gets Oak'd, when it comes back its form design changes to matches Ash's new outfit

Because right now the form is literally based off of XY Ash's design.

>>26440703
>they obviouly train, it isn't shown most of the time due to plot purposes.

With the only exception of Charizard (until recently) and Primeape. All other Ash's pokemon are never stated to train, nor it seems they do considering.
> it isn't shown most of the time due to plot purposes
Also, do you have anything to back this shit up? I have the charizific valley and primeape training with the wrestling guy. But do you have any resource that says his pokemon do train there? Or are you just making shit up?

>no breeding
Yes, the anime does care about breeding. Considering Brock wanted to be a breeder himself and numerous episodes revolving around breeding or breeders

>Implying that's a bad thing
When most of the time they're the same ones and region specific. Yes, it does matter because they're the only ones training while the rest doesn't do shit. Hence no acquiring experience, ergo no getting stronger, then making Ash a trainer with under trained weak pokemon

>c)
see this b)

>d)
>Read a)
Citation needed
Do you have any source to back this up?

>>26440815
Oh he will and that's what is going to hurt the most.

Shota isn't going to face any of Ash's old Pokemon but he'll be intimidated by how strong Ash really is outside of Kalos

>>26440717
Apparently you don't if you don't recognize when he does it. It is deranged but guess what, that's what he does and how he does things.

There's a difference between having different opinions, being contrary just for the sake of it, and then there's shitposting in such an asinine manner that it makes the others look deranged. Hell, the Barneyfag existed in case you missed that.

It isn't even about "calling out". Stop being daft.

>>26440835
90% percent of this post can be responded with "watch the Kalos anime, nigga".

>muh primeape
What made that monkey so special? I rewatched OS a couple of months ago and I don't see how people still care about it so much. Hell, even as a children I didn't see it as something special.

>>26440725
>He isn't with them so there is no way for him to train or breed them
Are you serious? what about the charizific valley? what about Primeape still training? what about cacnea training with Gardenia? Ash doesn't necessarily needs to personally train them, he could AT LEAST, send them to a place or with someone that would train them.

>This entire Greninjash plot completely falsifies your statement.
Are you sure? Because as far I can remember the rest of his pokemon at Oaks ain't getting no experience, and they're the vast majority of his pokemon

>fact
Ad hominem.

>>26440790
Ash not using Double Team seems odd. (Did Fletchinder use Double Team? I don't remember)
Razor Wind is Normal btw.

>>26440748
Looking at the battle with Diantha, it looks like it's more of a thing until they just crashed from the bloodlust.

Will Ash volt tackle his way through Siebold in the league?

>>26440894
It wasn't the bloodlust, it was the strain of the transformation.

Those two, along with not being able to trigger the synchro at will, are the three issues Ash has to solve before the league.

>>26440883
Fletchinder had Peck, Steel Wing, Flame Charge, and Fletchling had Peck, Steel Wing, Razor Wind and Double Team. My guess is it forgot Razor Wind and kept Double Team.

>>26440877
>he hasn't seen Oak episodes

get the load of this guy

also

>he still thinks Primeape is "being left to train"

Ahahahahaha

>>26440799

Yeah, that's why I think some of these shitposts are actually falseflags, some kind of inside job to maintain the status quo of the shitposter scapegoat. Like the porn getting spammed in the first thread.

Though I guess this tinfoil shit makes me sound like them.

>>26440863

Just the fact that you thought the OP of the last thread was "the shitposter" is evidence enough that you're full of shit. You or your little spoilering buttbuddy even suggested it was him shitposting his own thread, then those posts got deleted but the thread is still up.

The fact you get so triggered over the most trivial shit just shows that you're a newfag who can't handle this site. Reddit might be more your speed.

>>26440877
>Are you serious? what about the charizific valley? what about Primeape still training?
He isn't the one who is training them which is what you were complaining about in your first pose you retard.
>Ash doesn't necessarily needs to personally train them
>Moving the goal post

>he could AT LEAST, send them to a place or with someone that would train them.
I highly doubt the Pokemon at Oak's don't train themselves especially when Oak mentioned how Unfezant would make a good flying partner for Ash's other Flying-types. They aren't all just slacking off.
>Ad hominem.
You're retarded if you honestly think that.

>>26440957
>>26440873

No more substantial arguing?
Alright, then I think it's safe to say that once again I have been proven correct

yeah it's the out of context shitposter and you've all given him attention

DIGIVOLVE

INTO ULTIMATES

>>26440983

Not them but Ash obviously trains offscreen. It's intentionally ambiguous how much he trains, but it's implied to be substantial since he teaches moves that way and his Pokemon are just generally really strong. The episodes just show training when it's directly relevant to plot, either in timing or substance.

>>26440979
>He isn't the one who is training them which is what you were complaining about in your first pose you retard.
>moving the goal post
Then you are admitting Ash doesn't train them nor does he allow them to train?

>I highly doubt the Pokemon at Oak's don't train themselves especially when Oak mentioned how Unfezant would make a good flying partner for Ash's other Flying-types. They aren't all just slacking off.
Citation needed. Give me a when and where these pokemon did they say these pokemon train at Oaks?
I give you three examples: Charizard, Primeape, and cactenea. All of which have been explicitly mentioned to be left behind to train or to train.
Give me substantial proof or otherwise you're just making shit up

>>26440937
I just checked Fletchinder used Razor Wind against Korrina's Machoke.
So Talonflame has either Peck or Razor Wind.

So is Goodra rejoining Ash?

>>26440967
You're talking about newfaggotry when you act like the guy doesn't reset his IP.

It's not about trivial shit, it's that he does it to fuck with everyone all the time for no reason. Truthfully, you sound more like the ledditman if you think it's all about trivialities and that you somehow know of it.

>>26441047
Most probably yes.

>"It ain't Me" will start playing soon

Is he talking to himself again?

>>26441031
>responding

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Stop loving him so much.

>>26441039
So then it forgot Double Team then because of speed hax of Flame Charge.

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There's a lack of Serena in this thread

>>26441078
>>26441102
>false flagging

>>26441031
>intentionally ambiguous
>it's implied

So no hard evidence then? Ok, that's quite revealing actually.

>>26439956
>Serena confesses
>Ash tells her to get in line

>>26441054

>reset his IP

Oh fuck off. First you appeal to "posting style." Then when it's different you say he "changed up his style." Then when the timestamps are too close you say "multiple devices." You jump through every fucking mental hoop to affirm your own delusions and it's pathetic. When your only contribution to these threads is "calling out" "the shitposter" then you need to emphatically fuck off.

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>>26441112
i just got in here, kid

>>26441073
Wouldn't be surprised if he were at this point.

>>26440372
But if they're setting up so Alain can do the league, wouldn't losing to him be more likely?

>>26441036
>Citation needed. Give me a when and where these pokemon did they say these pokemon train at Oaks?
Literally the episode right afte the Unova League ended.

Watch the Oak lab episodes

>>26441116

Ash is only explicitly shown sleeping every once in a while, are you saying he only sleeps a few times a year? I mean they never explicitly said that they need to sleep regularly.

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>>26441152
I never called same fagging kiddo.
Jumped the gun there pretty early. Is there something you want to tell us about those two posts?

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>>26441078
>Yfw Luna loves him more as her aniki

>>26441181
the fuck is false flagging then
jesus christ this nerds and their words

>>26441168
Why would Ash lose to a main rival at the League?

He is either going to lose against some new person or win it all

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Its a shame this shit is too complex for the games, I'd love to have it in S/M.

>>26441215
BW really ruined a lot of things, now people thinks Ash loses to his rivals because he lost to an autistic faggot

>>26441146
Seriously?

He posts in different styles while changing IP. I never 'appealed' to one or the other.

>>26441078
Stop giving a shit about shipping, you waste of oxygen.

RIP thread, it was going so well earlier

>>26441226
The only complex part would probably be the clothing.

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For you

>>26441303
it's not even clothing really - just have to copy the color segments of the clothing. The pokemon just needs to gain a few modifications like AG's frills and water fuuma shuriken

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>>26441303
That's very, very complex though. Maybe they could find a way around it but I can't think of one.

>>26441238
Kotetsu was literally the Masamune of Best Wishes. Neither were actual main rivals and only appeared once before the League just like League Rivals usually do. Only difference between the two is that Tyson wasn't cucked out of a battle with Ash so Ash was able to defeat Masamune. Kotetsu on the other hand cucked Virgil out of a battle so it led to Virgil being a literally what the fuck League Rival who isn't even really Ash's rival.

>>26441248
Nah, it's cute.

>>26441350
We don't mention that name in this house.

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Fuck, this shot is gold

>>26441318
Unless of course there was only a select few Pokemon you could synchro with like how megas work, though then what would be the point if you couldn't do it with your bro?

>>26441376
>when you break a little girl's heart but she keeps despairing

>>26441248
>it's a part of the anime now

>>26441376
>wakarimasen lol

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>>26441376
>"Yeah, sorry."

>>26441318

It's literally not. All he gets is Ash's pattern and hat color. Wouldn't be hard to render a few textures for the different clothing options. Remember that most clothes are just colors variations with the same patterns.

>>26441431
The amount of colors and textures and the combinations is what makes it complex. So yes, it literally is.

>>26441454

It wouldn't change it entire color scheme, just its middle horn, and the white on its chest. Like in the show. That is not that much. Do you know how many alts they have in fighting games?

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>>26441431
>Ash's hair
>Ash's zig zags
>Ash's hat
>Ash's jacket pattern
That's quite a lot, of course they could make it a lot more plain and it'd work then kinda.

How about they just make ash-greninja an event distribution like spiky-eared pichu and leave it at that

>>26441454
colors are actually easy to paint over a model

and looking at Ash Greninja there are no texture changes

>>26441429
Alain already BTFO Manon, Ash's turn to BTFO Serena coming soon?

>>26441484
Fighting games are pretty much just color swaps with the occasional game making different forms. You're talking texture and color here, not just color.

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After all the time I watched the raw I never noticed Puni sneaking a peek from inside the bag.

>>26441535
No.
Ash knows he fucked up unlike Alan. Serena doesn't get BTFO.

>>26441496

Handful of fin templates for haircuts.
Handful of hair colors for those fins.
Some "color 2s" for the horn.
Some different patterns for its chest.

It is seriously not that much. It's just some slightly different textures, applied to some haircut templates. It's not like they're changing the whole model.

>>26441529
>chest
>head
>no texture changes

>>26441574
you can pretty much have a "base" x-Greninja with a horn and head frills, and then simply just change the color

and what about the chest and head... wait are you seriously telling me you think the frills are "hair" and Greninja's skin becomes whatever material Ash's clothes are?

>>26441538

Color swaps ARE texture swaps. A lot of times they change patterns too. I don't know how else I can explain it other than it's not that much fucking work.

>>26441566
From a programming standpoint that already looks complex. That's not even taking into account the graphical part of it.

>>26441535
Never.

Ash knows that love, bonds and NAKAMA are the true path to power.

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>>26441589

Look at this thread on neogaf with people saying their fav pokemon human characters, still a lot of people trying to champion Misty saying, "No girl has become as good as Misty was,"

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1222530

>>26441588
Are you pretending right now?
If they're going to make it look like the trainers they're not going to use the Ash "hairstyle". The other Greninja doesn't have the "hair" Ash Greninja has. Not to mention the white at the chest would be stylized in a different form and not what's seen right now.

>>26441554
>>26441603
I hope you niggas are wrong and Ash actually does snap at her.

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>>26441376
Are we expecting the next megahomo episode to hurt already or could there be another sweet reunion before the inevitable pain?

>>26441668
Ash isn't Alan. Not to mention he wouldn't snap at her.

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>>26441102
That's because people gave up on Amour and care about the new hype girl Luna now.

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>Mfw pikachu will never synchronize like greninja does with Ash

>>26441664
The chest are pretty much as people said, fighting game palette recolor.

And the hairstyle is moot - like I said they're frills a la something a mega form obtains, and in this case they just looked like Ash's hair. It can be pretty much ignored (i.e. make the frill color match the player's hat)

>>26441689
I would be very happy if it turned out you were wrong.

>>26441692
>implying
That's just you being retarded again 77.

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>>26441692

Can someone post the Pikachu and Greninja hugging Ash picture please?

>>26441704
The chest wouldn't look like Ash's shirt, so it isn't just a recolor. Also >>26441645.

>>26441707
I guess you're not a happy person as that wouldn't happen.

>>26441735
not a simple recolor but it can be done

>>26441707
You sound bothered that Manon was BTFO by Alain while Serena won't be by Ash.

>>26441664

I don't think you understand how modeling works. The fins would just be another mesh template, no different than your player character's hair. If they can do it for the PC they can do it for the Pokemon. There aren't even that many styles.

More patterns are not hard either. They are not retexturing the entire mon, just a single pattern on it.

Seriously
http://marvelvscapcom.wikia.com/wiki/Alternate_Costumes
It changes both colors and patterns. This is standard shit for alts.

>>26441753
It can be done, but it's complex. It isn't ridiculously complex but it sure isn't easy.

>>26441701
He could if he wasn't so assblasted about evolving. This is completely his fault.

>>26441651
From that thread:

>You have chosen wisely. Misty has a great independent spirit and she had to grow into her own due to her sisters. She's proven herself a great trainer and a fine leader of the Cerulean City gym. Ash never really acknowledges her feelings for him and I feel it's a shame she has been completely forgotten. After all she has suffered and all she has grown, we deserve to see this beautiful tsundere come back and make Ash remember that he's forgotten her.

What am I reading?

>>26441748
We don't know that yet.

>>26441775
Why would I be bothered? I just want some conflict between them is all, would be cool.

>>26440848
I hope this happens. Of course, he'll have Greninja on him since the main rivalry is between Sceptile and Greninja, but I really want to see Ash break out old mons to wipe the floor with Shota.

>>26441821
Well congratulations, you got yourself caught.

>>26441797
Seriously, the first five are just color swaps. It's the last one that's an alternate. In order to retexture the pattern they'd have to retexture the whole mon to fit the pattern.

>>26441802

It is not fucking complex, holy shit. It is not literally drawing the trainer's pattern on Greninja in real time, it's just rendering a few simple patterns to match the clothing options, and maybe 2 lines of code to retrieve "greninja pattern 3" to "shirt pattern 3" etc.

>>26441824
>I just want some conflict between them is all, would be cool.
It's shit.

>>26441732
Here >>26436706
This is also pretty good >>26440352

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>>26441847
>and maybe 2 lines of code to retrieve

>>26441840

Are you seriously fucking blind? Look at Cap 1 and then Cap 3 and 4. The lining on the suit is totally different. That is exactly how alternate Greninjas would work. Notice how they also don't have wings, one tiny mesh on the outfit.

The only thing that changes on Ash-Greninja is the chest pattern and horn color. That's it. Not the entire thing. I'm starting to think you have vision problems.

>>26441821
Hope Boss Doggie discipline them, also it must suck to be banned everywhere right Scott?

>>26441868

This is just further proof that you need to stop posting about shit you don't understand.

It is not hard to draw a few different Greninjas with a few different chest patterns, and then retrieve one that matches the trainer's current choice of shirt. Same applies to the hair pattern/color and horn color. You are exaggerating the complexity to a hilarious degree.

>>26441882
I'm wondering if you're not the one being blind here if you think the lining is anything more than coloring. The wing thing is one small thing removed vs. two different hairstyles that would have to be added, three if you take into account Ash's. That's already more complex than your Captain America.

>>26441903
I browse neogaf for gaming news mostly, but the occasional Pokemon thread there. Also amuses me Serebii Joe posts in every pokemon related topic on neogaf. I had no idea he posted there since 2012 or so.

>>26441913
It isn't just two lines of code.

>>26441851
You a shit.

I know for a fact /padt/ would like it if they saw Ash apologizing to her.

>>26441954
You a shit if you think Serena has to be BTFO just for Ash to apologize to her.

>>26441651
Does that Menitta guy post here? Some of his posts on neogaf resemble some posts I've seen here.

>>26441936
Joe main job in Neogaf is to shill Nintendo.

>>26441976
What about Pomf?

They have a pokemon community thread on neogaf where they discuss the anime and games, Serebii posts there too:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1110986&page=140

There's some DP fanboy named Menitta there who dislikes every series outside of DP and XY.

>>26442013
You are just mad because he dislikes your precious AG, Scott.

>>26441934

>anything more than coloring

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT GRENINJA'S CHEST PATTERN IS YOU COLOSSAL IDIOT

The only important difference is the hair fins, and again, not fucking hard to render. If it's simple enough on a human it's simple enough on a Pokemon. The male character has like 4 hairstyles. The female has 6, with each having a bang and non-bang version. That's a measly ten fin styles that don't even have to look exactly the same, just resemble it.

It's literally one fucking check. Let's say there are categories for you and greninja. We'll call them PC and greninja2 (synchro).

PC: "hair 2" "hair color 4" "hat 5" "hat color 3" "shirt 3" "shirt color 5" "pants 4" "pants color 6" "shoes 1" "shoes color 7"

thus

greninja2: "fin 2" "fins color 4" "horn color 5" "chest pattern 3"

And this is what it retrieves. Wow so fucking complicated.

>>26442020
He skipped watching more than half the series because he said nothing was happening, even in eps where things were actually happening (May and Jessie's Wurmples evolve for example), etc.

But he says DP did no wrong even though some of DP's fillers especially in the later half also have nothing much happening.

>>26442035

Meant "horn color 3" but you get the point. If the options are numbered separately for each model + color combination, you simply match the horn color to each combination that has that color. etc

>>26441976
nah just pokemon

but man you can really tell how much uneducated people are with Pokemon there

>>26442013
why are you posting my secret nook there

>>26442083
I wish I could post on neogaf just to educate everyone about the anime there.

>>26442083
>nah just pokemon
Is common knowledge Joe is a massive Nintendo fanboy

>>26442035
>>26442064
It's one measly check, at least two animations added, and the ten fin styles. It's more complicated than the over-simplification you're doing there. Hell, even the head fin is larger than regular Greninja. That's only on Greninja alone.

>>26442101
yeah but he shills pokemon more than any other Nintendo product

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>>26442171
His Yokai Watch damage control is top kek

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can I just ask real quick

>Even through fire, water, grass, forests...
>Through earth, clouds, that girl's skirt

so what sort of Pokemon does someone expect to find there

>>26442186
in the girl's skirt, I should clarify

>>26442184
to be fair though, most faggots who talk about YK there have no idea how the Japanese market works, comparable to the ratings shit we see in this thread

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>>26442166

The animations have nothing to do with the trainer. Same with the larger fin. They are the same across every synchro greninja so they're no more complex than a mega.

The check is for the trainer's cosmetic slots, and only four of them, which matches them to S-Greninja's four cosmetic slots. It is not nearly as complicated as you're making it out to be. It literally does the same check when it renders your in-battle model vs your overworld model.

>>26442200
Maybe but you don't need to shit on Yokai Watch and lie about kids not liking it anymore when the third game is the most pre order game there.

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>>26441701

>>26442186
Normally you'd find a Cloyster or even rarer you'd find a Diglett. Ash found the magic flavor of Serena's Puffs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWrcRj1skS8

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>>26442211
there are three Yokai games now?

shit how long has this been around, since 2013?

>>26442210
>The animations have nothing to do with the trainer.
>the thing about synchro is how the human and Pokemon move as one

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>>26442221
>a Diglett
it took me a minute

>>26442211
oh yeah that one is bad

I'm just talking about shit like how they bring up recent trends but not knowing any context

>>26442243
More or less. Just recent in the states.

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>>26442243
Third one releases in July, I think. It got delayed

>>26442273
well yeah I've seen the merch at Target

is it doing well over here?

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>>26442259
I'd have said Rayquaza but I was keeping it in the spirit of Gen I.

>>26442242
The realization that the dresses are see through

>>26442283
Last I heard not too hot but not too cold. I don't keep up with Yo-kai.

>>26442283
It's bombing hard.

>>26442244

Oh for fuck's sake dude, Greninja literally has 3 attack animations, plus one idle adjusting his tongue. They can give the trainer the 3 measely animations, if they even decide to go that far.

You don't seem to understand that this is a turn-based RPG with instanced battles, so every model and animation is very static and contained, thus easy to render.

>>26441683
It already hurts. Have you seen that big fucking smile when Alain greeted Ash?

>>26442302
Not really

>>26442304
For fuck's sake.
>3 attack animations
>1 more for giant shuriken
>1 idle pose
>2 more made to match the trainer
>then have the trainers get the attack pose

>We will never see Alain's charizard go up against Ash's charizard

>>26442307
He just wants Ash to spank him.

>>26442329
Unless Ash has a mega, I assume Alain's will just overpower Ash's.

>>26442334
If it's no Mega then Ash's would most likely beat Alan's. If you go by what they have now then Alan's would win. If they both have Megas Ash's would probably come out on top.

>>26442319

>2 more made to match the trainer

What the absolute fuck are you talking about? It's not going to get unique animations based on its trainer, the trainer model will get animations based on Greninja. Every trainer will move the same way, that being the 5 (and that's being generous) animations that every "synchro greninja" has. You have a hilariously poor understanding of how this works, and the best part is you keep insisting shit is hard and when I explain how it isn't you add more shit.

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y'know, watching subs of the OS movies that I used to watch to death as a kid dubbed of course - not like I had/knew of any other option at the time feels so weird but it feels so right

>>26442211
YW a shit. Inazuma is the superior level 5 children game. The original anime series was great too.

>>26442379
>Champions League, Alola.

>>26442349
What the absolute fuck are you on about? The synchro shit is about the Pokemon matching the trainer, not the other way around. Greninja would get the idle pose of the trainers and both male and female trainers don't stand the same way. There's more to it than just "2 lines and done". What I've said is that Ashninja would be complex to implement into the games because there's more to it than just one thing which is the clothes and look.

>>26442379
Remember how beautifully rekt Paul's Aggron was when Infernape punched the shit out of it

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does Greninja still have nightmares about pic related

does he feel used

violated

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>>26442406
>fire/fighting vs. rock/steel

>>26441376
The comment Ash made about the league having strong trainers + Alan's comment about it sounding fun and wanting to grow stronger sorta makes me think they'll throw him into the league too. But I can't see that happening if the Flare arc ends before the league begins and if we assume that Ash will see Tierno and Shota in the league.

I think a 6v6 between Alan and Ash mite b cool though.

>>26442421
He got over it. Probably.
Braixen kept taking Sylveon over to him.

>>26442421
Hell be fine.

>>26441718
friendly reminder that serena accepts palermo's training

>>26442451
Tierno's pretty much become fodder at this point.
The Flare arc's supposedly coming up at the end of June so the league would happen after.

>>26442398

Why do you keep repeating my phrasing? It's fucking childish.

You have this ridiculous notion of how things are represented in the game. Mega evolution is "all about" the bond between mon and trainer, but translated in game mechanics it's just a fucking held item and button. Plus, do you even watch the battles? Ash isn't constantly matching his movements, only sometimes. Their stances are often different.

It would work exactly how I said. And animating two models simultaneously isn't hard either, Mega Kanga already does it. Again, the only thing resembling a complex check is matching S-Greninja's "cosmetics" to the trainer's, and that's as simple as doing the same thing for the trainer's multiple models.

Post Pikachu and Serena

>>26441102
pls clemont stop your shit

>>26442469
>implying
serena already said she wants to see more first

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>>26442453
>Braixen kept taking Sylveon over to him.
>Greninja's fw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tg7iuVVB-vA

>>26442480

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>>26442484
But Clemont would ant Ashs to be posted

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>>26442494

Snowball to the face incoming?

>>26442480
>>26441312

>>26442516
them being friends

>>26442506
But she appears to leave Pikachu behind and find Ash herself.

>>26442538
Will Pikachu ever find happiness?

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>>26442507
pls no bully the Satoshi he's lived a hard life

he's died several times
he lost too many damn leagues
he's had several heart attacks
he went to Unova

life is pain

>>26442475
Seriously, using mega as an example is terrible because it's still separate from the trainer. The thing about synchro is that it ties the trainer and Pokemon. Yes I've seen the battles and they have key moments that they move the same. That's why it's called synchro.

How you described it isn't how they'd go about it to show that the trainer and Pokemon aren't synchronized and the complexity isn't animating models simultaneously, it's that they're doing it for one specific Pokemon that would have more appearance alterations and animations than what megas have which they use the same ones in or out of mega.

>>26442507
No just snow to the face from a tree.

>>26442544
why is he so emo about losing?

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>>26442543

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>>26442538
And Pikachu is alone in the mountain when he's with Serena.

>>26442494
>>26442506
Has Pikachu ever been held by the female lead as much as this? And has there been a girl that wasn't shocked by it at all?

>>26442585
Misty May and Dawn weren't shocked by Pikachu but he fried their bikes.
Iris and Bonnie got directly barbecued while Serena didn't suffer any of that.

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>>26442544
Ash has led a hard life.

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>>26442585
nope

Pikachu knows

>>26442549
>they use the same ones in or out of mega.

No they fucking don't. They have completely new models with completely different animations. This is literally enough for me to dismiss your entire argument, since you clearly have no eye for these things.

Doing it for one specific Pokemon makes it LESS complex. Not being a mega, but rather the same Pokemon, thus sharing model and animations, makes it LESS complex. You keep throwing around these vague concepts like "ties trainer and Pokemon" but in game terms all this means is that the trainer's model animates simultaneously. Not complex.

>How you described it isn't how they'd go about it

Then how would they, faggot?

>>26442584
>Bonnie smiling as Serena despairs
Goddamn lemons I swear.

>>26442421
>yfw Satoshi loses the league to attract sylveon

>>26439965
>XY&Z24 RAW:
>http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=806938
>XY&Z25 RAW:
>http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=808965
>XY&Z26 RAW:
>http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=811007
>XY&Z27 RAW:
>http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=813168

Jesus christ, this is awful.

>>26442584
This preview still confuses the fuck out of me.

>>26442611
>No they fucking don't. They have completely new models with completely different animations. This is literally enough for me to dismiss your entire argument, since you clearly have no eye for these things.

>Lucario
>Gardevoir
>Charizard
>Mawile
First ones that come to mind.

>Then how would they, faggot?
Literally told you how and why they'd do it that way faggot.

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>>26442585
The other girls have held Pikachu. Being samefags with him, no.

So is XY&Z24 next or 25?

>>26442668
Pikachu already does this with ash

>>26442641
No one knows what the fuck's going on with the previews.

>>26442649

All different models and animations. Some of the moves look similar, but they are still animated from scratch using the new model.

You didn't literally tell fucking shit. You just threw around vague "idea guy" terms like "ties trainer and pokemon" without explaining how that translates to game mechanics or animations. I've been providing all the actual explanations so far, so now it's your turn faggot.

>>26442421
DELETE THIS

>>26442668
But that's Ash not Serena

>>26442681
The only parts that are confusing are the Serena parts.

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>>26442611
>>26442649
>>26442549
>>26442475
>>26442398
>>26442349
>>26442319
>>26442304
>>26442244
>>26442210
>>26442684
are you two gonna fuck or what

>>26442698

Sorry I don't fuck retards.

>>26442709
then how the hell did your parents make you

Serena should put Pikachu under her winter jacket

How do you rate Ash's Greninja, Alan's Charizard and Shota's Sceptile in terms of power level while on their regular (not Mega or Synchro) forms?

>>26442731
Too lewd.

Man, I literally btfo'd you when I showed Ash is a shitty trainer.

And I forgot to mention one very important reason

>he is almost completely ignorant to both abilities and hidden abilities to the point he needs to discover by accident

LOL, literally. This point is too powerful.

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>>26442720

Did that comment make sense in your head

>>26442671
I hope PM skip Phantump episode.

>>26442684
They're different models with the same animation. They weren't from scratch. One example I can give you of supposedly doing it from scratch would be Sharpedo. They have the same idle animation but the attack animation changes.

I already said how they'd go about it because of the concept of synchro. Greninja would get his attack animations then one more because of the giant shuriken, Greninja would be given the idle animation of the trainers because of the fucking concept. All you've done is go "not hard" when the coding would take more than just two lines, animations would have match up while allowing the games to run.

>>26442733
Well, Sceptile can definitely catch up to normal Greninja. But Greninja has shown that it can outspeed it even without going Ash-Greninja. Should be interesting when Shota gets a Mega.

Charizard seems weaker, or Alain is just a poor trainer that relies too much on overpowering his opponents, though since Alain is always off fighting Mega Evolutions I'm assuming it has become stronger since its last encounter .

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>>26442668
This why Serena won't win da Ash

She is too busy with Pikachu

RIP amour

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>>26442733
Based on this I'd put the frog at number 1, then charizard then sceptile.

>>26442695
The Pikachu part became even more confusing.
>Pikachu is with Serena searching
>Pikachu is in the cave
>suddenly Pikachu out in the woods without Serena fighting Team Rocket
Unless somehow Pikachu saw how depressed Serena was and goes out on his own which is why she isn't with him.

>>26442788
That's frog tapping into the synchro force.

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>>26442784
>implying same fagging with his Pokemon isn't the key to winning the Ash

>>26442795
I just think the summary is full of shit.

>>26442801
All the summaries say they go looking for him in the snow and wait for him until it starts. Voice cast doesn't lie about things either.

Ash's theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oa-ae6_okmg

>>26442788
Sanic xDD.

>>26442814
Voice cast says "Pikachu and the others wait", butt later says "Serena and the others search". It's almost like they're excluding Serena from the initial "waiting" part.

>>26442767

When you say idle animation are you just talking about them standing there? Because that's not what I mean. Almost every Pokemon has the same idle animation in that regard. Greninja would share all of his animations, plus some new ones.

Even if you're right that's still only two more standing animations. That's still not more than most megas, plus it keeps the same model. For the tenth fucking time, the only remotely complex part is the cosmetics which the game already fucking checks. The thing that you said would be extremely complex, and then moved the goalposts when you got refuted.

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>Luna will get skrong like Aniki (Satoshi)

Ash is so fucking lame.
I'm going to throw bbq party when he loses the league again.

>>26442844
you mean you're going to cook two packets of ramen because fuck it you're going all out

>>26442834
Yeah but at the same time why would Pikachu not go with Serena in the first place. That and then it kind of makes Pikachu seem like he gives no shits in the beginning.

>>26442743

You never responded to me m8

>>26441177

He trains offscreen. He has Pokemon learn new fucking moves offscreen. In the Lapras ep he said he was going to train, even though we don't see it. Episodes start in the middle of his training. He explicitly said Goodra evolved "through training" although it's only shown being trained once briefly as Goomy.

Hell we rarely got to see Serena train for Tripokalons, yet she had all these moves that I guess she improvised and nailed on the spot because implicit offscreen training doesn't exist according to you.

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>>26442857
>instant ramen

Ewww,

>>26442871
I went out to do some jogging
>He trains offscreen

So you're basing yourself on implied shit?

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>>26442878
You shouldn't trust be Ash even if he is wearing reds hat