Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread

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NEXT: POCKET MONSTERS XY&Z28: THE WINDING WOODS... THE DAWN OF EVOLUTION! (MAY 26TH)
>Following the Eisetsu Gym match, Satoshi disappeared into the forest all by himself. And then Gekkouga ends up disappearing as well, making Pikachu and the others worried. Then a storm suddenly starts up! What will happen to Satoshi and Gekkouga!?

>Summary:
>Satoshi has disappeared into the forest at night all by himself. When he hasn't returned by morning, Pikachu and the others decide to wait for him. But then a massive storm suddenly arrives! Serena and the others get worried and set off together to search for Satoshi. Meanwhile, Satoshi has realized something while interacting with the Pokémon in the forest. And then, appearing before him, is...

>Voice Cast:
>Rica Matsumoto: Satoshi
>Ikue Ohtani: Pikachu
>Mayuki Makiguchi: Serena
>Yuki Kaji: Citron
>Mariya Ise: Eureka
>Megumi Sato: Dedenne
>Megumi Hayashibara: Musashi
>Shinichiro Miki: Kojiro
>Inuko Inuyama: Nyarth
>Yuji Ueda: Sonansu
>Kenta Miyake: Onvern
>Kiyotaka Furushima: Fiarrow
>Kensuke Sato: Rentorar
>Miyako Ito: Pumpjin
>Chinatsu Akasaki: Joy
>Unsho Ishizuka: Narration

UPCOMING SHIT:

POKÉMON NO UCHI ATSUMARU? EPISODE 33 (May 22nd)

XY&Z029: Ash Greninja VS Mega Abomasnow! The Giant Water Shuriken Triggers!! (Jun 2nd)
>After interacting with the Pokémon in the forest, Ash has matured a bit further. No longer lost on what to do, Ash once again issues a battle. Ash summons up everything he has gained so far on his journey: The knowledge, the experience and the memories made with the Pokémon. But the ultimate opponent appears before him: Mega Abomasnow.

XY&Z030: Find Carbink! Goodra and Dedenne!! (Jun 9th)
>On their way to Lumiose City, Ash and his friends decide to stop by the wetlands where Goodra lives. Ash and the others are delighted at seeing Goodra again, but then trouble suddenly arrives! Incredibly, a single Carbink appears to be going on a rampage in the wetlands. Ash and his friends attempt to stop the Carbink together with Goodra and the wetland Pokémon, but then Team Rocket show up.

DREADREA (BY SERENA, CV MAYUKI MAKIGUCHI):
http://www.megafileupload.com/aynY/DreaDrea_(Serena,_CV_Mayuki_Makiguchi).aac

VOLCANION AND THE INGENIOUS MAGEARNA MANGA CHAPTER 1:
http://imgur.com/a/PAdz8

>>26406643
When did the Pokemon anime become Shonen Jump bullshit?

>>26406643
>filename
The animators have budget to spare now.

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Flying to the new thread. Before the anti-flying police arrives.

>>26406643
still five eps behind. glorious.

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Final stitch I think I'm doing for the episode.

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So anybody betting the trailer of upcoming episodes will be after Ash beats Wulfric?

>>26406709
TSUBAMAGAESHI MY LIFE INTO PIECES

>>26406713
We're not done with the three parter, so yeah.

>>26406713
Cute.

Regarding the trailer, yeah probably, don't we know already that XYZ031 might be Serena-centric?

>>26406709
I fucking love XY/Z backgrounds. You know what would make this even sadder? Actual snow falling.

>>26406713
OP update the episode after Wulfric and Preview likely night of the Wulfric rematch.

>>26406709
Where's Shota heading to anyway?

>>26406736
The League, he says he'll wait for Ash there.

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>>26406713
XY&Z 31 tittle when?

>>26406739
>Shota becomes the champion before Ash gets there
Fug

>>26406739
>hey, Satoshi, take a look I have a Mega Sceptile now!

I didn't realize Serena actually wore leg warmers over her thigh high socks.

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>>26406777
How fitting that it would be Bonnie to name Ash-Greninja.

>>26406777
Yeah, it's the first time.

G-guys, I think we're getting Ninja Blade next episode.

>>26406794
How so?

Man, I wish they removed the OP for the next episode just this one time.

>>26406801
It would make sense to have Gekkouga obtain this mysterious move when they get over this issue. It could also be nice to show its power by facing a Gym Leader.

>>26406813
Is it a big deal considering the OP plays after a brief introduction?

>>26406821
I second above poster, a punchy rock song would be kinda out of place for a "down in the dumps" episode.

how heavy are dedenne and squishy anyway

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>tfw Bonnie takes the spotlight again from the main girl.

>>26406843
Dedenne is like 5 pounds, Squishy no idea.

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>>26406692
STOP FLYING IF YOU KNOW IT'S WRONG.

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>>26406848
Do you even lift?

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>>26406856

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>>26406872
Who doesn't?

>hail comes out
>only Hawlucha gets hurt, none of the other Pokemon outside of their Pokeballs are affected
How?

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>>26406879
That's it, burning you alive.

>>26406872
>each Bergmite is 220 pounds

NANDO DEMOE
NANDO DEMOE

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Worried froge is cute

Was it ever addressed in the anime how pokemon that need trading evolve in it? or do they just evolve naturally

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>>26406887
Gotta burn all that fat.

>>26406916
There's a trading machine

>>26406889
I suppose because they aren't in the battlefield.>>26406916

>>26406916
They did, that's how Jessie's Pumpkaboo evolved although they didn't know it'd evolve that way, oddly enough the other dude also had a Pumpkaboo and several Gourgeist.

>>26406889
That's like saying why didn't Braixen and Chespin get hurt from Electric terrain during the bro bowl.

Simply but, the effects of the attacks are limited to the dimensions of the battlefield, and aimed at the pokemon that are in the battle themselves.

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>Braixen would have had a heart attack

>>26406916
Love

>>26406916
Trading machines exist in the anime and have been used several times, though not necessarily for trade evolution, just trading in general.

>>26406934
Ah that's nice. I wonder if theres any item involvement to pokemon that need items? Like Electabuzz and so on. Also? those pokemon that evolved in specific locations

>>26406916
Dude, you MUST have AT LEAST watched the original season, right? Have you missed the SS Anne episode?

>>26406955
I think with Misty's Politoed the case was that, she gave Poliwhirl a King's Rock, then when TR took it away and then they when they got it back Misty send it out and it evolved.

>>26406955
They only did it a couple of times. Misty's Poliwhirl jacked Ash's King's Rock and put it on and then it just evolved while they had a Slowpoke who put on the King's Rock and a Shellder bit down on the Rock, evolving Slowpoke into Slowking.

Granted, this was back in Johto.

>>26406965
Not to mention the episode where Ash and Dawn trade Buizel/Aipom with each other.

>>26406965
>>26406976
He's talking about trade evolution, not just trading.

>>26406982
True, but it would make sense that trade evolution would be respected considering the existence of said machine.

>>26406965
Yeah I mean I know there's trading, but in the logic of the anime is it necessary to use the machine to evolve certain pokemon is what I meant, but as >>26406934 said, apparently you do (in some cases at least?)

IT'S A BATTLE WIN OR LOSE

>gyro ball sounds like a fucking buzzsaw
Impressive, almost as impressive as Hyper Beam sounding like a machine gun.

>>26406992
FUCK OFF OR SHUT UP. YOU HAVE TO CHOOSE.

>>26406972
That's actually really cool to know and opens up a lot of possibilities. Things like Shedinja and whatnot with very Particular evolutionary methods in the logic of the anime it would be nice to see I think

There's also the case of Brock's Onix evolving into Steelix but I don't recall if how it evolved was ever addressed.

Note that Ash nor any of his friends were ever seen using a stone to evolve a Pokémon either, the closest thing to that was Ash's Gliscor, Misty's Starmie was already introduced as one.

>>26406910
This was one of my favorite moments, Greninja looking back at Ash to see if they could keep going was great.

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So blue means introspection right? They used this in the Brobowl as well,

>dat self-doubt

>>26406997
Stuff depends on the Pokemon. Valerie's Spritzee didn't emit such a sound when it used Gyro Ball. It would make sense that not all Pokemon would emit the same sounds depending on their body textures, typing and abilities.

>>26407009
Brock's brother, Forest somehow evolved it during the time he was traveling through Hoenn.

>>26407009
I remember that Eeevee episode and a couple of others later on with the first three elemental stones and also the moonstone episode (but I don't think in that episode it was mentioned as being a evolutionary thing)

So I assume it's because Ash was so consumed in wanting to win that he fails to take out the Hail, and take advantage of Talonflame and Greninja's speed to dodge Avalanche, right?

>>26407015
Can anyone translate what he says here?

>>26407003
Yeah, they never touched on Shedinja's evolution in the anime at all, likely because the only episode it was ever in was the Mirage Kindgom/Togetic eps in Hoenn where the main villain used it,

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>>26406713
She's an angel.

>>26407028
It didn't help that Shota was there watching, because he lost to him the episode before, it cause Ash to neglect dodging near enough all attacks and instead was purely on the vulnerable offensive.

>>26407036
Interestingly that guy had two Ninjasks but a single Shedinja.

>>26407001
IF YOU WIN YOU'LL SURVIVE AND KEEP THE DREAM ALIVE

>>26407042
She's indeed Ash.

>>26407044
Deadly when it comes to Wuflric whose entire strategy is based around on just standing around and waiting for the opponent to come close enough to fuck up.

>>26407028
Pretty much what sets apart XY Satoshi and XY&Z's Satoshi. Current Satoshi is full offensive and doesn't think enough. He lost his cool due to his special Greninja and relies on pure head-on offensive while neglecting important battle parameters, which doesn't work. The Satoshi of XY93 is kinda far away right now.

>yfw if Ash is unable to clear up Hail he will instead have his mons go under Avalugg as cover and to attack it until it faints

>>26407064
>Avalugg uses body slam and turns anymon under it into paste
yeah, no.

>>26407064
yeah because Gyro Ball isn't a thing

>>26407070
His Avalugg doesn't have Body Slam :^)>>26407074

>>26407061
He considered the battle parameters back when battling Zapdos though. He just lost his cool this time around.

>>26406643
>Meanwhile in Serena's head.jpg

What if Ash melts the battlefield?

>>26407064
>Getting under Avalugg
>When it's belly is fucking ice spikes

Yeah, no.

>>26407064
>Hawlucha does Karate Chop ORAORAORA run
>it's a repeat of Jotaro vs. Dio with the steamroller

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>>26406643
SIXTY SATOSHIS

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HAPPENING!

>Abareru-kun Becomes a Movie Voice Actor! He Will Be Playing "Onigohri"!!
>Abareru-kun is well known from the "Pokémon no Uchi Atsumaru?" show airing on the TV Tokyo Network, among other things!
>In one of the segments on the show, he has been been putting in extreme effort on a daily basis for the purpose of becoming a Pokémon movie voice actor, and now he has finally succeeded!

>For about two months, Abareru-kun studied voice acting, including being taught the basics and know-how of voice acting by Satoshi's voice actor Rica Matsumoto, before shockingly going directly to director Kunihiko Yuyama himself! The director was touched by Abareru-kun's dedication and okayed an appearance in the movie as a special favor to him!

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>>26407096
>Abareru-kun will be playing the voice of "Onigohri"!
>Onigohri is one of the members of the "Mega Evolution Army" led by "Azoth Kingdom"'s Cabinet Minister Jarvis, who acts as Satoshi and his friend's antagonist. This Onigohri is being mind controlled through the use of incredible scientific power and is also forced to mega evolve. How will Abareru-kun play this role!?

>The announcement that he was going to be a guest voice actor was made as a complete surprise to him, and can be seen on the episode of "Pokémon no Uchi Atsumaru?" that airs Sunday May 22nd!
>"Pokémon no Uchi Atsumaru?" airs every Sunday at 8am on the TV Tokyo Network!

>For a list of the guest voice actors, see the Cast page

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>Serena stutters to answer Bonnie asking where Ash is
Holy shit, it almost seemed she was about to cry.

Also:
>dat Ash ignoring pretty much everyone where he was going until Pikachu asked what was up forcing him to answer
>Ash literally spending an entire night outside alone in the woods.

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This is your time to fucking shine, Serena, prove Yashio wrong, prove that you can give smiles back and have people rely on you instead of the other way around.

>>26407096
>>26407100
Based

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>>26407079
..........
but it has gyro ball

>stale so buttmad now he resorts to insulting posters
top kek

>>26407096
>>26407100
Oh hey, he made it. Nice.

>>26407128
>yfw Ash's entire team next match is set-up not only to counter the hail but to prevent gyro ball from being bused
Latter part Ash has already got down, problem is now the hail, and Avalanche (which he could easily dodge with his fast mons)

>>26407128
STOP LOOKING AT ME LIKE THAT

>>26407129
>Tomioka destroyed just about every bait he had in the book

So why did they have an eagle's screech at the end?

>episode ends with a somber tone
>all of a fucking sudden Puni-chan song
Goddammit, Bonnie.

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>>26407096
>>26407100
>mind controlled Glalie
Refrigerate Explosion?

>>26407105
Broken Ash is killing her on the inside.

>>26407018
>spritzee's gyro ball is just a damn dodgeball.

>>26407260
What would be a Steelix's Gyro Ball be like.

>>26407162
>preview ends with a melancholic tone
>suddenly dancing Magearna

>>26407280
A runaway wrecking ball.

>>26407285
>next episode starts with a somber tone
>suddenly fucking XYZ

>>26407272
>deflects with brainless shitposts
>deflects
Seriously, are you being new or are you just being daft that it's the same guy that spams it in /a/?

>>26407292
That's him

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>>26407221
>Reminder that old Pikachu was also a far fatter character than new Pikachu

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>>26407096
>>26407100
This fucking pokemon scare me alot.

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>>26407295
Well fuck me in the ass then.

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Serena in alola soon right?

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>>26407280

>>26407309
It's probably because it looks like it has a dislocated jaw.

Why does it seem that Ash is more down after losing just a gym battle than he was after losing the Unova league?

>>26407333
There's no such thing as Luna.

There's the new girl but that's just a color swap.

>who's personality reflects Ash's seemlessly. No conflict, no development, no nothing.
Says the dumbass troll who has obviously ingored the last 4 episodes

Just ignore him holy shit.

>>26407322
nope, Serena will be replaced, that hat just doesn't match Serena's fashion sense.

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>>26407329
Y-yes... look at it, is so creppy.

>>26407342
Unova was a bad dream.

>>26407096
GLALIE ARMS

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>>26407359
Why? what's wrong with the flower hat? besides is the same color as the actual Serena's hat, she likes this color.

Speaking of Pikachu, when the fuck is that motherfucker going to battle again?

The last time it battled was against that other Pikachu and before that...?

He better get some shine in the rematch. I can't believe Ash didn't make use of Steel Wing on Talonflame. Shota really fucked him up.

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>>26407343
sorry but, Luna is just a different and objectively cuter design

>>26407393
As soon as they enter the league, because he's gonna main Greninja for the Flare Arc.

Sorry, Pikachu.

>>26407399
>cuter design
She doesn't have design, is just a Serena's recolor.

>>26407399
>>26407385

I want to ask Luna-chan why her design is so plain!

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>>26407354
I think it's less about ignoring him and more about how he's just going all out now. But whatever.

>>26407375
Think they'll have Rinka do a Pokemon voice as well?

>>26407392
>what's wrong with the flower hat?
>shit sense in fashion

>>26407425
>Think they'll have Rinka do a Pokemon voice as well?
Unlikely. Abareru-kun is the one that had that long series of segments building up to getting a movie role.
Maye next year?

>>26407404
Dude, that's an expression you use when describing acting or character traits. ANYTHING is "deliberately created" when it comes to anime.

>Given synchros were never in any games, manga or anime up to this point
>MUH CANON
Dude, ever heard of the notion of "anime original"? Anime doesn't have to follow the canon of the shitty games.

>along with that poorly executed
Dude, the thing got explained as to why it's here and there's development. IT'S A FUCKING KODOMO ANIME WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU JUDGING THE WRITING

I mean shit, why the hell was there Giant Pokemon, guns and shit in the OS. As a matter of fact OS was even more bonkers than XY and the current anime follows the games more precisely than before.

>>26407393
I remember last two years when a lot of people were up in arms about Pikachu being used so much

Now all we've been getting is 5 second fights and/or interruptions. Before the Tripokalon episode I think the last official battle Pikachu had that lasted longer than the number of fingers on my hand was that tag battle and before that, fucking Ash VS Clemont

>>26407393
Bit if ash battles with pikachu shitters will cry muh pika pandering.

>>26407433
I was just curious and wondering since Abareru-kun's doing it, that's all.

>>26407412
>Serena's recolor
>changes to an Asain girl with black hair

>>26407442
Yeah, I'm just saying it's not like it came out of nowhere. They've had those segments where he's been VA training for months now.

>>26407422
>Luna doesn't need to model herself to attract guys like Jimmy or Clemont

>>26407393
>Using Pikachu
>In an Ice Gym

No.

>>26407434

It does feel pretty contrived since there was nothing really leading up to it. Ash and Froakie's bond didn't seem especially strong, just typical Ash fare, or Froakie having special powers. It just came out of nowhere.

>WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU JUDGING THE WRITING

You're just agreeing with him that the writing is bad.

>>26407456
>>Luna doesn't need to model herself to attract guys like Jimmy or Clemont

>>26407469
I'm not watching fucking Pokemon of all things for the writing, you dumbfuck. If anything, YOU are the autistic one for criticizing things in an anime for children. I just watch it because it's fun.

>>26407493

Yeah, I do too. I certainly don't watch it for the writing, minus the occasional POTTERY.

>no criticisms allowed
Yeah that sums up /padt/ pretty well.

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>>26407446
>>Serena's recolor
Yes literally a fucking Serena's recolor.

>>26407503
>I certainly don't watching it for the writing
>>26407532
>criticizing bad writing

There's a limit to everything, even stupidity and trolling.

What did Shota say in the end of the episode, when he left the group?

>>26407498
>increasingly apparent Serena is leaving
>all trailer did is demonstrate a Serena lookalike as a character
>Serena basically looking like an expy of new girl meaning she'd stay

>>26407525
nope, still not buying it. Design is different. Serena belongs in her own game and that's XY.

>>26407559
I'm going to the League, I'll wait for you there Satoshi (no homo)

>>26407553

How does one contradict the other? I said I watch it, just not for the writing, because the writing is pretty bad. You can still discuss something that you don't like. People do it all the time in fact!

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>>26407554
>She clearly has distinguishable qualities in her face.
Holy shit are you blind. What qualities? is the same face, is just Serena with another hairstyle, even if you keep her with black hair is just a Serena clon.

>>26407570
And his monolgue?
Something about winning or what?

>>26407469
>nothing leading up to it

>>26407562
>Serena lookalike
>black hair asain character design
you call that similar? even her blonde hair design is clearly apart from Serena's

>>26407559
That he's going to wait at the League for Ash basically.

>>26407585
Him waiting. That's all he says. He'll wait for Ash because Ash is someone he admires.

it's that time of the week again is it?

>>26407591

Olympia suddenly declaring that frog is speshul in the last eps of XY is rushed. Again, nothing throughout the series alluded to it, and their bond didn't seem exceptional.

>>26407621

I'm not the one who made the original claim. I just said that calling the synchro contrived isn't wrong. Just because I don't expect much from the writing doesn't mean I don't think about how bad it is. I'm sorry if that triggers you.

The best part is you were trying to defend it here >>26407434 and then backpedaled to "WELL IT DOESNT MATTER ANYWAY" when you couldn't.

>>26407660
Hahaha why you can't admit it? they got the same design with different hair color.

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>>26407649
More like that time of the day again.

>>26407652
>forgetting all those characteristics Froakie had prior to Olympia ep

they already exist, she just had to point them out

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>>26407623
This is getting rather ridiculous. They just keep saying that Serena will stay. I fully acknowledge that Serena will leave. And remember those petitions? I have no intentions to sign them.

>>26407652
I was defending it because it doesn't need to be shat on as much as you do. It's not any worse than all the bullshit the anime has made ever since its creation. And there's more than just Olympia about it, you just conveniently forgot about the rest.

>>26407687
Yeah, a Serena's recolor is replacing Serena.

>>26407676
>they got the same design
you need to get your eyes checked man

>>26407678

Froakie being difficult doesn't naturally lead into it being some kind of super ninja frog jesus. Furthermore that aspect of it only manifested in the very beginning of the series, and from there it was smooth sailing. The synchro really did come out of nowhere.

>>26407695
yeah Serena is gone alright.

>>26407698
>>26407580

>>26407729
So are you admitting she is just a Serena's clon?

>>26406643
Is this Serena's version do it for him?

>>26407713
>beginning

you really never paid attention to how Froakie's personality worked with in the background right? or even with hawlucha, or with Sylveon? or the little things like how he reacted to other characters?

While the synchro was hinted into Olympia, at least it tied to his behavior that came from previous episodes. That is not asspull or out of nowhere.

Are you one of those fags who read "foreshadowing for amateurs" and think shit should be plastered at any given moment?

>>26407713
>beginning of the series
>development of Froakie from his first appearance as an independent Pokemon and his interactions with other Pokemon
>Sanpei and ninja training
>ninja village and the legend
It's not exactly the best kind of build-up but saying it's an asspull is completely wrong.

>>26407690

There is value in Ash winning without super special powers, and that was generally the case. Pikachu doesn't really compare, or even Infernape since Blaze is a real mechanic. Greninja having special snowflake powers already feels forced, but even moreso because they came out of nowhere, unlike say Chimchar whose rage mode was developed from start to finish.

So yes the anime has had worse bullshit, but it's also had better. Nothing wrong with pointing that out in a fucking discussion thread of all places.

>>26407740
not the same character unfortunately for Serena. It is like saying May from omega ruby is a Serena clone.

>>26407774
>It is like saying May from omega ruby is a Serena clone.
>comparing an established character with a character with given customization

>>26407774
Oras May got a more original design, she isn't a Serena's copy.

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NEW SERENA FOR SUN/MOON ANIME LEAKED

time to send that email again

>>26407789
Nice.

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>>26407788
>>26407789
>>26407580
>Yeah May is a clone of Serena

>>26407795

oh wow, if you put in the proper colors, that is literally serena

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>>26407748

Froakie didn't antagonize Hawlucha. Hawlucha started it and Froakie just responded. Again, Froakie being cool or proud or whatever doesn't somehow naturally lead to super saiyan frog.

>>26407789
Serena is gone and out.

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>>26407805

>>26407804
Maybe that's why Serena replaced Oras May in the anime kek.

>>26407817
well not that it matters. I'm just proving that their argument for Serena being a similar character to Luna is flawed.

>>26407825
You just are proving Serena replacing the next girl is a very likely possibility just for the similarities.

>>26407825
>Anime Serena to Anime Luna
>not just being a color swap
It isn't flawed, you just ignore important details as usual.

>>26407841
>>26407844
I just proved that your argument was invalid to make Serena a similar character to Luna. May had the same character face because of the artists. It doesn't mean May= Serena = Luna .

>>26407811
Froakie wasn't into teamwork shit and Hawlucha was having none of that.

Also that's the whole point. Froakie wasn't into Ash until after he saw him being selfless with Pikachu. Then he saw how he fight, from making Pokemon cooperate to really ingenious ways like Rock Tomb Tomb. The purpose of Olympia was to lead-in those aspects into why he is special - because unlike other Pokemon he "knows" the purpose of trainers and he didn't change for Ash outside of his loner personality.

>>26407857
>May= Serena = Luna .
I don't know because May got a official anime design different from Serena, but still now you're talking about this i noticed they keep Serena instead of use Oras May, so maybe they do the same with the new girl, because they are very similar.

>>26407841
we can all speculate but I wouldn't bet your chickens it will happen. The argument for Serena = Luna just doesn't work.

>>26407857
>trying to use face features
>similar short hair style
>transferred into anime not just a similar style with a color swap
And no, May had a more unique hairstyle that doesn't fit with either girls.

Gonna chime this in and I know this will fall into deaf ears and/or the person just don't care and is just shitposting.

It feels like "storyline guidelines" are more like checklists now than actual guidelines for amateurs. Like rather than reading the story if the aspect actually fits the narrative, instead it's immediately shunned because this checklist says so.

Like for instance, "this character always wins his fights, therefore the story is shit!" While generally true, it only applies when you can't really write, i.e. an amateur. Fist of the North Star always had Kenshiro winning but you don't read or watch the show because you want to know who wins - you watch or read because you want to know how he defeats the person, or the ensuing drama the fight will give out.

Sadly teenagers and casual readers now see shit like "the person should always be flawed" or "things should always be foreshadowed" more as checklists rather than simply guidelines that can easily be ignored especially if you know things like context.

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Why can't we accept our Hawaiian queen?

>>26407871
>May had a more unique hairstyle that doesn't fit with either girls.
True. but "Luna" otherwise is a Serena's copy.

>>26407869
maybe, I won't deny the possibility since we haven't been confirmed. But if Serena does stay whatever.

>>26407871
with what everyone is saying about customization, you can basically just replace May's hair with a blonde short type and you get Serena. I just hate how people are saying Luna is similar to Serena because of her hair when its a clearly different style

>>26407888
Who is saying i don't accept her, i just saying she is very alike with Serena, you know just a hair color change, and suddenly we got a different character? is hard to believe.

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so was Ash's KARADA go BORO BORO DA?

>>26407895
There was no customization for May.

>>26407914
Yes

>>26407916
This.

>>26407916
>I'm just giving an example

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>>26407914
>>26407918
maybe Ash should bathe on those seaweed juices

>>26407922
You're using a shitty example.

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does anyone have the translated version of this comic?

>>26407936
it was a pretty simple one. Guess your brain didn't compute.

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>>26407905
Cute.

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>no comments

>>26407956
I didn't say it wasn't simple. I'm saying it's a shitty one to use to make a point.

>>26407968
>implying you could make a better one

>>26407880
Yes, I believe Pokemon (and storytelling in general) is like that too. If you're watching Pokemon for plot twists out the ass, then you're better off dropping the show and go watch an M. Night Shyamalan movie. Unpredictability is not entirely what makes a good story, the quality of the narrative itself matters too.

>>26407976
and the only time it becomes unpredictable is when you're dumb, as the show outright states things even to children so easily

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>>26407965
>I'm more than happy to see Luna replace Serena
Is just Serena with black hair man, what kind of replacement is that, if you were expecting a new original design different from Serena... they just trolled you.

>>26407997
Not necessarily. There's some things you don't get to see coming, even if you've seen "everything". Likewise, you get to see plots that have equal probabilities of going x route or y route due to how often they occur in fiction. It doesn't matter if you call it right or wrong anyway, if you start obsessing over what the ending will be instead of what's happening in front of the screen, it means that the show's story is not really engaging you, and that's usually not good.

>>26408072
nice twisting of my argument there

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>every girl that has short hair looks like Serena

Literally stop posting anons.

>>26408077
Why is that irrelevant yellow rat in the picture?

>>26408084
Don't question the cuteness.

>>26408083
>thinks Millefeui and Serena have the same hair
Stop posting anytime.

>>26408087
Nice, i like alot Florges Serena.

>>26408014
>Is just Serena with black hair man
Sorry this argument doesn't work anymore
>>26407804

>>26408106
This only make the argument work even more.

>>26408106
All you did there is say that it works.

>>26408111
>>26408112
>Argument works
May = Serena = Luna

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>>26408106

>>26408117
>established character to customizable character
I don't think you even know what you're trying to say anymore.

>>26408117
Yeah actually Serena replaced Oras May, maybe is going to happen again, thanks for your theory.

>>26408104
>Hair has less volume
>Longer bangs and styled differently
>Swept from right to left
>Hair neatly rounded on the back

B-But my lenght

>>26408126
>>26408129

Doesn't work anon, its like saying May is Serena when they are different characters. and clearly Luna has a different hair style.

>>26408130
Serena staying or not is speculation I'm not diving into that. I'm just stating Luna /= Serena

>>26408138
>Millefeui even having a similar hairstyle to Serena
Stop posting anytime.

>>26408143
>Serena staying or not is speculation I'm not diving into that. I'm just stating Luna /= Serena
Well yes, all of this is speculation, except for the fact that the alola girl is just a Serena's recolor.

>>26408143
Luna and anime Serena have similar hair length and style. May's hair isn't even close to either of the two.

>>26408153
>except for the fact that the alola girl is just a Serena's recolor.
yeah and may is the same if you recolor and change her hair to Serena. Luna's bangs are completely different from Serena's.

>>26408160

>>26408161
still doesn't mean Luna = Serena when their bangs are different. You people are just ignoring the difference.

>>26408152
>I'll move the post that's good trick!

>>26408166
It means that Serena with her anime appearance and Luna are similar enough that it'd just be a colour swap for the female character. The thing here is that they're similar. If Luna had say longer hair or much shorter hair then you wouldn't be getting that as much.

There's differences but they have a more similar appearance.

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when is Shota getting his Mega stone?

>>26408175
>moves the goalpost when his first comment didn't work out
Sure showed me.

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>>26408161
>Luna's bangs are completely different from Serena's.
Not really.

>>26408191
Yeah, you really shouldn't be doing long hair and short hair comparisons for that.

>>26408191
>Long hair bang matches
>Short hair doesn't

>>26408180
>The thing here is that they're similar.
not to the point where they are indistinguishable. You guys are just forcing the similarities because her hair is short.

>>26408191
stop making comparisons with terrible references.

>>26408199
>>26408203
Well i think if they keep Serena in alola, she is going to have the hair a little bit more longer, not to much but still.

>>26408211
No one's forcing the similarities, they're right there and they are similar enough without needing to force it. Concept wise in the anime it'd just be altering the colour and changing inconsequential details.

Also
>similar != exact

>>26407985
Noice

Geez, seven days of falseflagging to go...

>>26408182
After Seven rocks his boipussy on the bedrock.

That'll be the payment for services.

>>26408254
>After Seven
>misspelling Steven's name
Someone help me Sudoku.

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Pikachu is going to stay with Serena in the next episode?

>>26408244
>No one's forcing the similarities
When there are details you are ignoring, yes you are forcing it.
I'm just making the point that Luna's design being a small similarity to Serena doesn't validate Serena coming to Alola.

>>26408267
Pikachu pretty much belongs to Serena at this point.

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>>26408267
Ash is busy with his frog and emofagging, so yes it will.

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>>26408252
He's just trying to go all out now because he's run out of shit posting methods. Just let him drown on his crap.

As for the screen, too much pottery.

>>26408279
Shouldn't it be his bestest friend forever Pikachu that cheers him up?

>>26408292
Pika-what now? Gekkouga's always been Satoshi's lifetime partner, ever since OS, if I recall correctly.

>>26408275
It isn't even a small similarity and the details aren't ignored. They just end up being inconsequential because the similarity is greater.

>>26408297
kek, great.

>>26408297
>Am I just a fucking coat hanger now?

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>>26408276

>>26408301
yeah and if you include those important details, it isn't that hard to distinguish the characters.
You just proved that you are ignoring those differences because you just want to see the similarities so Serena could stay.

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>>26408305
It's payback, bitch.

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>>26408301
Yfw the alola girl is Ash and Serena daughter.

>>26408316
>lol
Fuck off.

>>26408323
>>lol
what.

>>26408313
What important details are you even talking about?
Hair length is roughly the same and the hair color is alterable because of a game feature. If anything those are the most important details.

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>>26408267
Ash is off alone.

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Bonnie clothes looks good in Serena.

>>26408354
>Bonnie likes like she's having fun while Serena is suffering
The grudge is real. Just like Clemont's salt with Ash over Goodra.

>>26408336
>What important details are you even talking about?
Wow You just said you saw those details 10 minutes ago...
Luna's hair is less messy and less sharp at the end of her bangs, rather it is rounder and smooth. She has more hair covering the frontal part of her forehead and she has an extra bang that points down. and her back hair is round creating a helmet shape.

I can't believe I have to explain this.

>>26408369
>Bonnie looks like

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>>26408367
Serena a qt.

Geez, how many mons had hit a wall due to Hawlucha's SHINING WIZARDO?

>>26408386
Yes, Ash gets Litten and his rival gets Popplio who evolves into psychopath clown to reflect the rival's personality.

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>>26408386
No, Rowlet is for Shota, you know for the green, and based cat is for Ash, Serena is going to get Poplio for showcases.

>>26408373
I said the details were there. What I'm asking you is what other important details were there. What you listed are pretty minute ones.

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>>26408316

>>26408403
>What you listed are pretty minute ones.
Yet those details aren't on Serena. And those details distinguishes Luna. If you are going to ignore those details I just can't help you.

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>>26408412
Fuck Popplio Ash doesn't deserve another jokemon kill yourself

>>26408415
Again, they're minute details that aren't ignored but the main details are what give the similarity. What people say is that they're similar, not the same.

>>26408423
>Ash gets Popplio
>it's as much of Jokemon as Oshawott
>unlike in BW, it's the only starter he'll get and he'll use it often
>the next few years in the show will be nothing but annoying jokemon antics

>Gen VII arrives
>she's hated more than Korrina is due to shitposters

>>26408453
Characters aren't hated because of their shitposters, newfag.

>>26408412
>It'll be Rowlet for Luna, Popplio for Ash Rowlet for Shota lookalike
Alola girl and Shota lookalike with the same starter, and Ash with a pokemon who looks like a clown for shows in scenerys? i dont know...

>>26408464
Goodra

checkmate`

>>26408470
What are you talking about, Goodra is very well liked here.

>>26408470
I like Goodra i don't care about shitposters.

>>26408430
What? Luna's hair being Short? you consider that a main feature? hundreds of people have short hair. Using that as a main feature is bs. It's the main details and her rounder smoothed hair style which sets her apart from Serena.

Isn't it likely that if the water blades are acknowledged as a different move from Cut, it'll be Bonnie to name them Ninja Blade?

>>26408474

the rest of the board doesn't

I fucking hate Goodra and its cheap ass Bide attack. Only ranged, special attacks in its moveset... boring as fuck.

>>26408478
I meant to say Minute features

>>26408484
/vp/ doesn't hate Goodra. If anything they hate the fact that the shitposting has made it hard to talk about it.

>>26408482
Probably not.
That might be Ash naming it.

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what's a perfect background music for this

>>26408495
Yakkety Sax

Would you guys get mad if this time Ash got replaced by the new game protagonist?

>>26408493
Was this before or after you found out the new girl and Serena shared some resemblance to the point that Serena can be the expy?

>>26408502
Pretty sure most people would want that. About time the anime started afresh properly

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>>26408502
Does that mean Serena won da Ash? If so yes.

>>26408478
It's short, stylized in a somewhat similar fashion, and they share a close hair color. It isn't just the short hair.

>>26408524
stylized in what way? I just pointed out the stylized differences. And Luna's default hair is black so no.

>>26408524
>Default is black hair
>They share a close hair color

>>26408524
Luna has different eye color and eyelashes so it can't be Serena.

>>26408537
Like Serena and Serena?

>>26408527
I said somewhat similar because it's short and kept at a near enough level so that it is mainly even all through out. As for the hair, Customization lets you choose a color and one option is the blonde one.
>>26408531
>I'll just pretend Customization and hair color change isn't a thing

>>26408537
She has three eye lashes and the eye color's the same as game Serena. In fact May has the same ones in ORAS.

>>26408551
so only short hair? apparently that's the only main feature to use as an argument that Serenafags can pull out. Customization is customization, not Luna's Default. You can customize Serena to be African black but no one considers it her default appearance.

>>26408577
It's like you only read the first words. Short hair stylized in a similar way to give them a similar appearance.

Customization is Customization and you have one character that already got customized to the point that she can serve as a replacement to an otherwise similar looking girl with different hair color.

Pokemon Fan magazine when?

>>26408636
two weeks?

>>26408627
Then tell me. Stylized similar how? You've ignored this question.

>>26408627
>Customization is Customization and you have one character that already got customized to the point that she can serve as a replacement

Where are you going with this?

>>26408627
>Short hair
That's all you've said

>>26408653
>>26408677
>it's short and kept at a near enough level so that it is mainly even all through out

>>26408551
But the one they seem to be running with in their promo campaign is black hair just like they did with game Serena that was later made into her Anime version.

>>26408697
okay man, just stop. You haven't said anything useful.

>>26408706
You got your answer twice.

>>26408698
you know that's why people say if they put her in the anime what you'd get is just alternate color serena.

>>26408721
are you seriously proud of what you said? You didn't say anything other than her short hair and her proportions. Never mentioned anything similar in terms with her hair style.

>>26408636
Didn't they say on the 30th?

>>26408749
Yes.

>>26408697
Serenafags so delusional

>>26407985
Oh shit.

>but instead of Serena talking to Ash during the night it's Greninja instead
Too slow, blondie, too slow.

>>26408385
Speaking of wrestling moves.

>Pokemon has yet to have pokemon or otherwise perform a generic suplex on another character

>>26408779
well there was a leg suplex, is that close enough?

>>26408759
The preview did show a snowstorm so when Serena found Ash the snowstorm might've stopped.

>>26408759
Serena is the first one that goes and tries and talks to Ash. But it obviously fails.

>>26408758
What part of "similar" did you miss? You want the minute shit, fine. Front side bangs have the sharp point like Serena and they got their front bangs. All I've said is that they have a similar enough hair length and style as well color because of a game feature that they're similar.

>>26408789
Where?

>>26408759
Anon, that's how it started.

Serena was the one that pulled through in the end.

>>26408807
hawlucha vs dark lucha

hawlucha leglocks dark lucha then suplexes him with his legs

>>26408803
>this is both the depression and the argument episode