Generation 1 discussion

>>26401506
The back sprites are top notch.

The crit-hit system was fucking broken.

"Special" made everything unbalanced.

Literally nothing else to do after catching Mewtwo.

Gold/Silver was the first real Pokemon game.

It kick started Pokemon

The anime was good

The movies were so hype

Shitty games but that's it's only downfall

Pokemania is goat

>>26401506
i remember grinding my team with the exp share in mewtwo cave all to lv100 took a while but i could use them in stadium and shit was cash

i hate the fact that pinsir was complete shit

wtf my comment got deleted
it didnt violate against any rules

There is nothing to love about Gen 1 other than the fact that it started the series.

>>26401566
Basically this. I remember going to the cassino after catching Mewtwo and gambling until I reached the maximum number of coins and that was that.

>>26401506
>needing to grind at Pokémon

And if you're talking competitively, duplicate some Rare Candies.

>needing to grind

>G-GEN 1 WASN'T HARDER GUYS

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>>26401569
>the anime was good

>>26402828
The recent Gen I guide thread makes it obvious you only needed to grind in that Gen if you were a shitter who used shit mons.

The author obviously had zero clue about how Pokemon worked beyond type and the shallowest of understandings of stats, and he was still beating the Elite Four with severely underleveled mons.

I do love that the bike music doesn't change when you enter a new route. It's annoying as fuck in the new games.

>>26402985
Actually, that's what bothers me about RBY. I like that the bike music changed from route to route.

Also, no running shoes is killing me. The item limit is annoying as well.

>>26401506
team rocket

best team so far

>>26402845
It was good. Yes. The only generation were it wasn't shit actually.

>>26402845
I'm not sure about good, but it was certainly better than it is now.

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>>26403153
lmao yeah okay dude

I just soloed Blaine using only dig.

>>26403129
>Le shitty inept yakuza ripoff
>Best team

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>>26403153
>>26403179
the anime is good only if you grew up with it

i can safely say that it was and still is utter shit

I also soled Koga using only fly. What wrong with me.

>>26401833
>not maximizing casino coins when it was possible
I remember spending days doing the casino.

>>26401506
>needing to grind in genwun

>>26403240
If you compare pokemon at the beginning with other shows at the time, and pokemon now with other shows airing, pokemon actually got worse. And the fact that /padt/ exists makes it even worse.

>>26403272
I soled Koga and his gym in one go with only my sandslash.I remember overleveling a lot because I feared that Koga may self-destruct his Koffings.

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how can i enjoy gen 1 again?

i tried to play it on VC but i just can't do it

>wrap

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>no move deleter
Once an HM whore, always an HM whore.

Loved the cries. Especially Nidoking, Scyther, and Magikarp

>>26403334
i have no idea what you're trying to say

>>26403365
I'm enjoying it for the nostalgia it brings back, and also because I take comfort in knowing I can transfer my teams Gen 7 when the time comes.

>>26401506
I liked the crit system. A lot of mons are trash without it. I liked the dungeon design. Everything from Seafoam to Silph co is designed well. Not having to worry about natures and stuff like that is always great for a playthrough.

>>26401506
I love how the world feels open even when it really isn't, and the adventure doesn't feel too grand for it's own good. I'm not a genwunner, but the first games really have something special in their presentation and atmosphere. I've always been a big fan of the slightly darker tone of the early Pokemon games and manga.

I hate the lack of special split, item storage, reusable TMs, and post-game. Pokemon Stadium fixed some of the main issue though.

>>26402943
Using a full team of average Pokemon is harder than training one that's always going to be overleveled enough to one shot everything... who knew?

>>26403396
Shit I taught my charmeleon cut.

I hated with a passion how there is absolutely zero reasonable reason whatsoever to use Bug types. There were 4 Bug moves in Gen 1, and all of them were horrible.

>>26403362

He self descructed his last pokemon on me, I had a balanced team of 35, But the one comment through it is me not remembering Ground > Poison

Type matchups in Gen 1 were fucked..

>>26403534
The reason was that they evolved fast so you got access to higher BST mons sooner, and then you were meant to swap them out as you went on. Problem is, they didn't really pace the game well for that, and also people tend to like to keep the pokemon they evolve and train.

>>26403224
>any team
>not inept failures

>>26403365
Nuzlocke as always

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>>26401859
Naw. You don't get that bonus in gen 1. I remember I had a fast as fuck Jolteon that I grinded on flying types. Pretty much swept everything I faced short of a couple ground types. Carried me in Stadium too. Fuck I loved those games. Broken as fuck, and pretty unplayable today, but nostalgia is nostalgia

>>26403470
>Using a full team of average Pokemon is harder than training one that's always going to be overleveled enough to one shot everything... who knew?
You have literally no idea what I said. His entire team was underleveled and he was still beating the Elite Four. The point was that you only have to grind in Gen I if you're using mons that don't match up well to what you're facing (he did have one Legendary, if I recall correctly). And that even then, the AI of Gen I, while not quite as retarded as people like to spout, was still pretty retarded and movesets not incredibly well thought out.

Besides, grinding is never a real indicator of difficulty, unless you're having to grind to over level your opponent because they're just too hard or to train up a fresh mon. Especially in Pokemon, it's a sign of a poor pacing where the trainers' levels easily begin to outstrip yours despite you completing all the content up until then. Grinding is piss easy and all it does is extend play time by making you burn through mindless battles until you can get back to actual progression.

>>26401566
complete the fucking pokedex and go make some friends irl fuck...
every kid on the street carried a gbc with red/blue, go outside and meet them fuck..
fuck..

>>26403741
Mewtwo was usually the last pokemon to catch, as in they've already done that.
Also completing the dex by trading is basically just a chore.

>>26403534
Beedrill is pretty decent, even good, in Gen 1 once it gets Twin-needle. But yeah, that's about it.

>>26403534
Not everything needs stab to be useful, especially in-game, ESPECIALLY Gen 1.
Butterfree and Venomoth are solid picks in Gen 1 due to Confusion/Psychic access. Scyther/Pinsir have shit movepools but good stats, and speedy permacrit Slash is great. Parasect gets fucking Spore. Shit even Beedrill's Twinneedle is ok

>>26403470
>I love how the world feels open even when it really isn't, and the adventure doesn't feel too grand for it's own good. I'm not a genwunner, but the first games really have something special in their presentation and atmosphere.
This. Despite my distaste for some of the outdated mechanics and lack of nostalgic attachment to the Gen I games, I enjoy a Red playthrough every once in a while, more so than my only playthroughs of Y and Omega Ruby. There's a charm in the simplicity of it all, I guess.

>>26401566
whatever johtofag
gold and silver was shit too. literally nothing to do after catching ho-oh and lugia except start up the game for maybe one minute a day to get some daily event. gen3 was the real shit, trainer stars and contests
niggaa

>>26401566

>Literally nothing else to do after catching Mewtwo

what were you expecting?

>love the in-game, hardly any annoying NPC interruptions, less hand holdy than games today
>hate the fucking level up movesets

>>26405215
For weeks i spended my days doing just this:
>beat e4
>beat rival
>beat viridian house
>beat Red
>beat folks in ss anne
>beating e4 again and again

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here's a very nice list of a lot of things wrong in gen 1

>>26405215
>literally nothing to do after catching ho-oh and Lugia
Which you encounter before you go to Kanto, unless for some reason you wait until the very end for it.

"literally"

>>26401566
>Literally nothing else to do after catching Mewtwo.

You know, most games back then had nothing to do after you saw the end credits. At the very least they gave us a special high level dungeon with a neat prizemon at the end.

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>>26401768
this happens all the time, the moderation on this board isn't very good.
pic related is me, the story was made up but it didn't break rule 4

>>26406004
Maybe he's one of those people who don't know you can go to Kanto and then refight a leveled E4? I knew a tard like that.

>>26405994
> If you kill somebody with Hyper Beam you don't have to recharge.

Good.

>>26406004
You cant get both birds without going through virtually whole of Kanto

>>26408238

>refight a leveled E4

That never happened in Gen 2.

>>26401569
>red,blue,yellow
>shitty
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>>26401506

I used Primeape during my recent Yellow run and I don't think it was even possible for his karate chop to not land a crit.

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>>26408274
And you don't fight Red, catch the other game's legendary or go to kanto, but you do go to the safari zone, amirite

>>26401566
>Literally nothing else to do after doing everything
huh

>Jolteon used Slash!

>>26408310

You retard, the elite 4 in G/S/C stay at their levels even after you have all 16 badges. Look it up on Bulbapedia if you don't remember.

>>26403153
yes yes whatever you say little genwunner

>Click Psychic
>Win

Gen 1 in a nutshell.

>>26408692
Git gud.

>Hate
Absolutely nothing to do after you get to Cerulean Cave.

The grind is annoying.

Unbalanced, over centralized competitive meta game

Glitches and bugs

Only one Dragon and one Ghost line.

HMs cannot be deleted or replaced. No move relearner or tutor.

Single use TM.

Stats were unbalanced.

Psychic and Psychic Types super OP.

Leech Seed + Toxic. Wrap.

Gym Leaders/E4 using pokemon outside their specialty.

>Liked
Persian was usable. Granted, the stat issue above and how Crit hits worked made it the way it was but it was cool to be able to use it. Really, just about any Pokemon was usable to some degree. Maybe not in competitive play but everything was viable, even NFE pokemon during """"story"""" mode.

Gen 1 opened the floodgates to the franchise that is still going strong 20 years later.

Team Rocket

The sense of discovery.

Legendary Pokemon felt special because there were so few of them.

>>26401506
I can't say I hate much of gen 1 because the goggles might as well be nailed to my fucking face. That said, the item limit kills me everytime I play, I don't even need 99% of the TMs, I don't know why I save them.

>>26401506
I love how the world feels so open compared to how streamlined the recent games are.
After beating Nugget Bridge in Cerulean you could go to Vermilion, visit SS Anne and Diglett's Cave without even beating Misty. If you get her badge you can choose to beat the following gyms and visit the cities in the order you prefer. There were a few roadblocks here and there, but they were less and definitely not as railroading as now.
The sequence breaking promoted replayability, this is also true for GSC. That's the thing I miss most about earlier games.

>>26408176
He chose the wrong rule violation but that was obviously off topic blogshit, and that ban was well deserved.

>>26405994
Yeah, Gen 1 is overpowered and simplified, that's the fun of it. It feels almost like an entire different game when you compare it to newer games. That's why I like it.
That, and the sprites. They look more like monsters.

>>26401506
I'm recently replaying yellow and man, I've forgotten how much shit has changed
>hate
moves like Karate Chop, Gust, and a bunch of moves listed as punch are normal type moves
>love
has some of the best musical tunes and no extra bullshit to juggle with so you can overpower yourself

I hate how shit movepools are, but other than that, I'm having a lot of fun revisiting Gen 1. More fun than I had with Gen 6. I'm picking up mons I'd never thought I'd use and messing around with a ton of glitches.