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why is this by far the worst game in the franchise?
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>>26386296

Because being delusional seems to be a very big problem for you. I recommend reevaluating your options.
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>>26386296
>worst starters
>most shitty designs
>completely forgettable
>needed a sequel to make it not complete shit
>zoomed in minecraft- tier back sprites in battle
>awful pseudo- 3d animations in battle
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>>26386342
Forgot to mention
>has the most cancerous fans in the franchise
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That ain't red tho
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>>26386342
based anon
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>>26386296
It's not though. Yes, the region is shit, but it makes up for it in other areas, at least enough to be better than Gen 6.
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>>26386342
This.
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>>26386296
It has the best graphics.
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>>26386296
That's not Ruby or Sapphire
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>>26386373
please kill yourself
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>Gen "_" hate thread #904,877
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>>26386296
That's not Pokémon Black
Pokémon White had White Forest and the better Opelucid.
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>>26386342
>implying the battle sprites weren't the best pokemon has ever had

Gen 6 pokemon just fucking stand around like they've got something better to do. They've barely come within reach of catching up to pokemon stadium 2. Saying any generation's sprites that came before are better is a just kinda of silly.

>worst starters
nice try

>back sprites
have you played any games before gen 5? They finally zoomed out in gen 5 so that we weren't having their ass pushed up against the screen like every generation before.

>forgettable
>muh edgy opinions

>most shitty designs
you've obviously run out of anything remotely critical to say
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>>26386296
Because it's not it's sequel
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>>26386296
anything plasma related is absolute cringefest
worst starters by far and shitty dex
horrible e4 and champions

at least gen 5 has a great OST and second games were good enough to make the entire game acceptable
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>>26386296
Because your rivals never shut the fuck up and let you get pokemon.
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>Itsureissummer.av
Anon, D/P were absolutely horrendous. So bad they had to terraform the Pokedex so every team wasn't
>Starter
>Luxray
>Starraptor
>HM Slave
>Lucario
>box legend
The Pokemon variety, game speed, and plot were at their lowest point, Platinum fixed a lot of things but D/P are commonly regarded as borderline unplayable.
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Man, why was B/W so polarizing? Why do people still, all these years later, rant about the games like they fucked their mom? Why do others drool over it and laud it like the second coming of Christ?

I never see anyone say, "Yeah, they were okay." It's always insane, extreme opinions. What happened?
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>>26386296
>begging the question
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>>26386536
because that board is filled with unovabortions now retard, so you either get baby duck syndrome praise from gen 5 babies or actual opinion from anyone else
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>>26386342
This guy speaks the truth.
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>>26386536
People with moderate opinions don't participate in these threads.
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the pokemon designs are all some mix of grey/ brown. very desaturated, muddy colors
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>>26386342
>shitting on pokemon designs
A reminder to get a load of this and be grateful for what you have
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>>26386377
That's not how you write Diamond or Pearl
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>>26386296(you)
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>>26386612
>still posting that shitty bait
>yokai looking like yokai is somehow unacceptable
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>>26386562
So what's a reasonable opinion? That they're dog shit and anyone who likes them eats shit? That's still in the extreme.

I admit I'm a "Unovabortion" but at this point I do wish Gen 5 could be discussed without these polarizing opinions.

Admittedly though I only care for the Pokemon and music. You think the region and story was shit, fine. But Gen 5's Pokemon were never that bad and the music was nice.
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>be me
>buy White out of hype
>start playing
>meh, lame starters
>ok, maybe there's something better in the wild
>encounter related pic
>turn off Nds
>never play it again
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I wish Unova fans would stoip bragging about the addition of 156 Pokemon.

The vast majority of them are either forgettable or awful.
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>>26386296
Hey OP, you didn't put the right pic. Here is it.
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>>26386641
Take my upvote! I remember when pokemon had real designs like geodude, voltorob and exeggcute.
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>>26386651
Not really.
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>>26386612
>g-guys dont forget we could have had yokais instead of pokemon
>poorly designed pokemon are forgivable because yokais a thing
Fuck you. Apples and oranges faggot
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>>26386342
Pretty much this.
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>>26386633
region was pretty okay and just needed a few tweaks but fuck "story", it's awful
>never that bad
but never that good either, gen 5 is probably the highest rating in whatever or just plain bad stuff like genies or my little ponies
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>>26386641
I have to say early Unova mon's really suck, but around pinwheel forest they start to get really good
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>>26386633
This. I mean I love Unova but it does have its flaws
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Was Gen 5's dex really that bad? I mean, I can compromise and say it did have the weirdest designs in the series, but it also had some of the best, and for me the goods outweigh the bads. But if you believe good <bad, tell me what's wrong with the likes of say, Hydreigon, Haxorus, Braviary, Excadrill, Volcarona, Galvantula, Mienshao, Krookodile, etc?
If they were injected into earlier Gens, would they be singled out as aesthetically unappealing?
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>>26386342
>most shitty designs

Epic.
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>>26386377
This.
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>>26386342
ok we can stop with the shitty design meme now, you're not fooling anyone

>completely forgettable
after it was praised by dozens of media outlets and is still praised by tons of people on here

come on try harder
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>>26386794
This is a thread for people who are fed up with the gen 5 love so of course they will shit on the dex. In reality, there are a lot of great designs as well as competitively viable pokes.
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>>26386296
>Another Gen 5 hatethread.
Say goodbye to everyone, alright bitch?
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>>26386356
>not genwunners or Hoennbabies
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>>26386536
I think it's because they came out right after Platinum.

Sinnoh and Unova are the two most polar opposite regions we have. Their design philosophies are totally different. They did totally opposite things with the Pokedex. Their stories are opposites, their characters are different styles, the Pokemon designs are totally different.

I figure GF were trying to avoid another D/P, and followed a totally different direction to get that. However, a lot of people adore Platinum, so B/W ended up swinging too far in the opposite direction for a lot of people.

If X/Y were after Platinum, and Black/White after them, I feel like they would have been universally praised. It was an issue of timing, and B/W being just a bit too experimental for when they came out.
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>>26386895
Kek
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Here, let's at least have some fun in this bait thread.
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>>26386967
Passion.

Neat
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>>26386997
What the fuck is "Two Babies One Fox"?
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>>26387032
Oh no, you didn't.

You did it on purpose, didn't you?
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>>26387032
I guess it's the Tails comic
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>>26386356
>ashfags
>liking gen 5
Those are opposite kinds of people anon.
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>>26386296
That's not ORAS.
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>>26386296
>bw and bw2 not the most comfy pokemon games to date


You're opinions are fucking shit, spastic features.
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>>26386536
It separates the line between casual nostalgiafags and people who actually care about pokemon.
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Gen 5 had the best overworld in the series and best designed protagonists. It also attempted to do something new story wise by actually having the gym leaders be important
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>>26387090
Anon I thInk bw2 are the best games but platinum is the most comfy game
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>>26387143
We're talking about gen 5, not 3.

>>26386536
It actually attempts with its story, so most of the fanbase of course hates it.
And if you're not conpletely retarded you'll see how great it is.
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>>26386967
I got
Thesee
nigmad
And Madea
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>>26387268
The story is pretty shit if you've done anything besides play games. Plasma is so simplified compared to what it could be.
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Have you even heard of X and Y?
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>>26386967
>bail
>lice
>kick
O-okay..
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>>26386296
It's the best you fucking faggot
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>>26386296

>the constant negativity, arrogance and borderline retardation of /vp/, and 4chan in general start to irritate me

>I decide to leave for good

>week passes

>think ''oh what the hey, old times sake'' and go on /vp/

>immediately see this

Fuck off OP you fucking faggot, and fuck everyone who agrees.
Do Diamond and Pearl, Ruby and Sapphire and Red and Blue just not exist now?
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>>26386342
>completely forgettable
the fact you haters spout memehate towards it already invalidates it from being forgettable. This in fact makes it the most memorable for being so polarizing
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>>26386967
Maniac
Secrets
Passion
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>>26386536

You know this is 4chan right? Basically nothing but shitposting and complaining. It's a miniature /v/ for Pokémon in every single way.
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>>26386967
Man

Seems legit
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>>26386633
>admit I'm a "Unovabortion" but at this point I do wish Gen 5 could be discussed without these polarizing opinions.

As a Sinnohfag, I seem to have the same issues talking about it here.
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>>26386967
>Maniac
>Kiss
>Naked

wew
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>>26386941
Underrated
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>>26386667
>grimer, muk
Your opinion is invalid.
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>>26386967
>Rage
>Maniac
>Kiss
What!?
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>>26386967
>Lust
>Fool
>Crush

Yeah... sounds about right
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>>26386997
Bring back Two babies One Fox!
Haven't had a good fap in awhile
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>>26386967
>Man
>Door
>Rage
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>>26386536
Because it's the game that tried to be different. It leaned slightly towards the traditional JRPG style instead of continuing the simple and straightforward conventions we were used to in pokemon games. Especially coming after HGSS, one of the biggest examples of that simple straightforward nature of pokemon games.

Everything else is generally nitpicking. If someone says the designs sucked, and they can't pick out 6 designs they like from 156, they're full of a shit.

The linearity issue of the games are way overblown too, all pokemon games have been linear to some extent.

The casualization also wasn't nearly as big of an issue as it was in Gen 6 because you could ignore most of the changes made in Gen 5.

People just don't like dialogue, they wanna turn off their brains and go catch/battle some mons. They wanna explore where they want when they want. If something is preventing them from doing that right away, they get irritated and frustrated and stop playing.
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>>26388713
This memegirl speaks the truth.
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>>26388713
I don't even recall gen 5 having that much dialogue, I just didn't like any of it.
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Not as bad as X/Y
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>>26386296
thats is XY my pal
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Every Gen 5 game is literally perfection compared to the rest of the franchise. Adjust your horrible taste.
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>american setting
>black/white


top kek of all time
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>Chandelure
>Lilligant
>Galvantula
>Golurk
>Volcorona
>Scrafty
>Jellicent
>Sawsbuck

Some of my favorite Mons, the Pokemon in this generation were tight!
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>>26386967
>Naked, Chat, Feel
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>Recently my 13 year old nephew got into Pokemon because of me and wants to play the games
>Asked me game reccommendations yesterday
>Reccommended him gens 5 and 4
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>>26386342
Oh, come on, how can you not love this snek?
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>>26386536
>I never see anyone say, "Yeah, they were okay." It's always insane, extreme opinions. What happened?

Contrarians and newfags happened.

If you'll notice, Gen V was almost universally loved here from 2010 to 2013. There were rarely any negative or even "meh" opinions about it.
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>>26389341
>gen 4

I hope you meant HeartGold or SoulSilver.
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>>26389422
Yes, I did, Platinum too.
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>>26388713
Came in here to say something like this. Now days Gen V seems to be pretty hated by /vp/ aside from Rosa, Elesa and maybe Hilda and Skyla.
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>>26386442
You've obviously been assblasted to the Moon
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>>26386651
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OKAY SO
I'll agree that
>The starters suck
>The legends look like overdesigned digimon
>A lot of the time the game looks super pixelated and like shit
BUT
Black and White were the most ambitious games
It was almost like an experimental generation, and that lead to a lot of beautiful moments
For example,
>it was the first to take place in a country other than japan
> The played with the gyms to make them more believable. The first gym was the weakness to your starter pokemon, which was fucking crazy.
>They introduced 150 original pokemon, americanized versions of the original pokemon is some cases. That was a major feat.
>Because of the above point, we got some garbage designs, but some real cool designs. A pokemon based off a cell is fucking awesome. The ghetto lizard is cool. Galvantual is also a really cool pokemon.
Overall, gen V strayed away from the status quo and it did yield some shitty aspects, but it also produced some really great ones.
Also since it's based off new york instead of the japs, it'll remain one of my favoirtes
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>>26386296

>Worst

How about you not spout hyperbole. B/W is the Metroid Fusion of Pokemon. I can understand why people wouldn't care for it: the region lock means you have to wait until post game to get to all of your old favorites, story has never been the point of Pokemon games, and those who didn't particularly care for the design philosophies of Hoenn and Sinnoh are going to find little to like in the roster.

However, it's those same polarizing aspects that jump the game into the upper echelons of the franchise for some. The region lock when combined with the expansive roster brought in as well as the lack of out and out Shitmons encouraged players to experiment with the new species rather than just fall back on old favorites and there's plenty to like type and statwise, though I will admit some Pokemon have evolutions far too late. The story had this really self-aware feel to it, an understanding of the world that had been built up for the decade and change prior and honestly felt closer to a plot we'd only get in the mangas and was sufficiently engaging and at times powerful. The region followed the same level of thought, considering the usual clockwise trek around the region and trimming the fat while still offering a lot to see and do accompanied by a very good OST. The designs are a sticking point with many but in each you can really see the care and inspiration put into all of them that hearken back to the original 150 but still stand up on their own merits.

TL;DR: It's not the worst. It just went in a different direction.
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>>26389673
>The legends look like overdesigned digimon
Except Reshiram and Zekrom. They have one of the most minimalistic legendary designs in the franchise.
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>>26386296
Because is the best
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>>26386967
Maniac
Rage
Secret

Not sure how I feel about that.
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>>26389772
What does it take for a Pokémon to look like a Digimon?

When you look at it, Piplup is one of the most Digimon lookalike Pokémon out there via it's eye design alone, add another white circle to its eye and it could pass off as a Digimon.

Pochamamon let's call it.
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>>26386493
>implying they are rivals and not just friends which want the best for you
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>>26388713
So people who are casuals hate it?
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>>26386967
Crush
Deed
Fool

???????
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>>26386493
Anon N is the true rival

You say that like you haven't played X and Y
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>>26388523
Anon, I....
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Because the region is based off New York
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>>26386296
asside from a lot of new pokemon being kinda crappy, i liked it. it was the game that started to teach me how to play competitive. plus there were a lot of mechanics that i did enjoy. like for example a doctor or nurse at the start of every area so you don't have to go all the way back to the pokecenter
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>>26386651
not really. there's a good chunk that i still usually see
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>>26388407
>my opinion is different to that of the first post I see so 4CHAN IS SHIT NOW HURRF
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>>26388437

This.

They probably like a good portion of Gen 5 in secret anyways. They just see a couple of designs they don't like and then jump on the hate bandwagon by dismissing Gen 5 as a failure in its entirety because it's hip and cool to hate on Gen 5 for some strange reason.

They're too blinded by their own negativity that they're stubborn enough not to see any of the positive qualities. What a shame.
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>>26386967
>art
>wisdom
>fool

I'm fine with this.
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>>26386967

>resent
>pogo
>ass
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>>26390726
Actually is the opposite. Unovafags are really just contrarians who don't even like gen 5 (because honestly no one does), and they feel like is their duty to defend this failed gen, only so they can justify their own existence, so in a sense they sympathize with gen 5 because both are equally rejected by society.
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>>26386296
But it's better than any gen 4 game.
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>>26390802(you)
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>>26386967
Passion
Coke
Follow
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>>26389738
>music
To be honest the music turned me off from this gen a lot. It's easily the second-worst OST besides Kalos. Going back to it recently I still dislike a lot of it, exept for a couple of the town themes like Humilau's.
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>>26391019
Anon you did name a really comfy song, but what is your definition of a good ost?
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>>26391058
One where I like most of the tracks, and don't find the wild battle theme to be grating.
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