/pmdg/ - Pokémon Mystery Dungeon General

Man, the idea of PvP or some sort of cooperative multiplayer in these games is kind of interesting. Like, you could challenge people to rescue a Pokémon and see who gets there first or something like that. It would have to be asynchronous so that you don't have to wait for the other player's team to finish all their turns, so there'd probably be a timer on each player's screen and the fastest time at the end would win.

With the way certain moves have been buffed from the main games, would PvP be more balanced or less so?

>>26385894
>With the way certain moves have been buffed from the main games, would PvP be more balanced or less so?
Depends. If someone were to use Power-Up Punch throughout the Match with Reversal handy, It'd be interesting
At least, it's interesting in Super

>>26385894
>Like, you could challenge people to rescue a Pokémon and see who gets there first or something like that.
Online rescue missions in Explorers kind of gave that I gues.

>>26385946
Did you play them? How were they?

And I never even checked to see if Super had something similar.

>>26386472
Super only has QR codes.

I know what you're referring to, they were nothing special, just missions you could get with a code anyway.
But that wasn't what I was talking about, I was talking about the normal rescue missions we also do here. The only difference is that the other player won't know how many people tried to rescue them, anyway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0j9_sopnjMY

>>26386610
Oh okay. Really, I just want that one feature that could make the games last much longer that they normally do. Like, we have rescues, but it's not the same.
I remember a while ago here player-generated content was brought up. THAT would be the best. It might be work, but they could make it 2D even if the main game was 3D. The issue that was brought up with 3D was the posing and animations for cutscenes, but they could do it Dissidia style where it's just a picture of the arena (in this case, dungeon) with the character portraits and dialogue boxes where they'd normally be.

>>26386740
How many times are you gonna post this?

>play red rescue team
>sleep powder, then leech seed
So comfy.

>>26386747
You mean like cutscenes? Or dungeons? Both wouldn't be too hard.
And it doesn't need to be a feature in the game, we can already mod it. Editing dungeons right now shouldn't be too hard in EoS now since it's documented, and I'm surprised nobody has made custom cutscenes for GtI and Super. I've been planning to try to do something that makes sense by myself, but I'm lazy.

>>26386877
Yeah, I meant a dungeon with some expository dialogue beforehand. Or maybe we'd be able to made our own episodes with chains of dungeons.

I didn't know it was possible to do now. That's cool, I might also look into it.

is hunger seed the most OP thing on the planet?

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>>26387325
Is there a pokémon that could even possibly EVEN TOUCH Drifblim? Let alone defeat him? And I’m not talking about Aftermath Drifblim. I’m not talking item holding Drifblim either. Hell, I’m not even talking about Ominous Wind Drifblim. I'm not even talking about Drifblim at max stats. I'm talking about Drifblim with the Minimize buffs and Unburden (with no held item and being capable of both Gust and Shadow Ball), at quadruple speed from Unburden Ominous Wind, equipped with his Breeze Scarf, a Draft Ring, control of the IQ Skills and Quick Striker for a quad hitting normal attack, with stat drinks and Life Seeds implanted in him so he has 999 HP and 255 in all stats and can perform Ominous Wind spam while being an expert in shrinking and evading attacks, while also having an immunity to Electric and Ghost attacks from the Sky and Nether Globes, and also being permanently at double speed due to the Sky Gem, and having every beneficial swap item in the Treasure Bag for a grand stat total of 275 Attack, 269 Defense, 295 Special Attack, and 281 Special Defense, after using Ominous Wind enough to hit +10 to Attack, Defense, Special Attack, and Special Defense.

>>26387342
>him
enjoy your inferior specimen

>>26388886
Cute

Any others?

>>26389067
http://chesp-rowlet.tumblr.com/post/144437715874/i-made-the-gen-7-starters-into-pokemon-mystery

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Anon here, I got the game on christmas. Piplup is my starter with bulbasaur as the autistic partner. Im more than halfway through the game I guess, past jirachi by several quests

>>26389119
Well, do you like it so far? You do like your partner, don't you? You are indeed more than halfway through if you're past Jirachi.

I don't know why, but I am having far less fun with super than with sky.

>>26389338
Don't worry about it, whether it's good or not seems to be either 50/50 or 40/60.

>>26389082
Popplio looks perfect, but the other two need more work

>>26389198
He's undeniably my friend, the storyline is nice. Cant wait for us to evolve sooner or later!

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>>26389580
Don't you worry, it can only get worse/better from there

>>26389338
I found I started having a lot more fun with PSMD when I realized that it was playing more like a roguelike than the earlier PMD games; that the goal wasn't to power through the dungeon, gaining levels, then whoop the boss's ass but to use every tool at your disposal to get to the end then strategize how to keep the boss under control because they're all 10x stronger than you.

Unfortunately, that realization also meant the game became really easy, as I knew that I wasn't really missing anything by avoiding enemies and not levelling up as could always use an item to escape a situation or rely on the guest party members who are all exceedingly more competent than the literal children MCs they had to carry.

>>26389840
Who is your partner? Fennekin made it feel like the escorts were weighing us down. Is Fennekin partner considered easy mode? I almost want to feel bad about picking it.

>>26389840
How would you fix that? I guess the problem isn't there in roguelikes generally since you lose your items, but since PMD is structured differently maybe it wouldn't really work.

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>>26389929
Choosing the special doggo should be none more guilty than choosing chespin for dank 10x multi-hit combos and drain punch.

>>26389961
I must confess, I did both.

I was going to pick Treecko, but Grovyle being a character in Explorers fucked me up and made me reconsider that wave of autism has passed though and I've been considering resetting. DON'T TEST THE CHES was an unforeseen benefit.

>>26389930
Not him, but they could have just made items less common. A complaint I see a lot is that Tiny Reviver Seeds are too common, and Reviver Seeds are too cheap. Wands are never in short supply, either.

>>26387342
Perish Song :v)

>>26390059
>Going CAN'T TEST THE CHEST and Fennekin: Elite Sniper
The definition of easy mode

>>26390241
The game was new at the time, I didn't know!

But really, that's a bad feeling. Picking characters because I like them, only for them to be perfect weapons. I guess I know what I'm doing the next few days.

>>26390296
Anyone and Fennekin or anyone and Chespin just makes you steam-roll the game. In more ways than one
Together they are an unstoppable unkillable machine. It's why you'll notice there isn't a lot of Chespin/Fennekin combos because it just breaks the game
Pick one or the other as a partner, but don't combo them. Even though they look cute together. But you must resist!

>>26389929
Pikachu, who was next to useless. I did all the heavy lifting as riolu and only got the occasional quick attack/corner attack to help out.

And sure, some of the earlier escorts were useless, but it's hard to deny you're being carried when there are half a dozen guest party members who are twice your level, or literally 3 legendaries.

I ended up letting my party die off early a lot, then using the foe tracking ephemera to go stealth mode through the dungeon without them, popping a party revive orb at the boss.

>>26389930
I'm not entirely sure, honestly. The problem is that the only real obstacles are other pokemon which wands help you navigate around entirely, but I'm not entirely sure what else they could work into a pokemon game.

Does SMD have multiple save files?

>>26390387
Nope, but you can backup your save so you "technically" have two save files if it's the digital version.

>monster house
>agility
>room hitting abilities
>all in one
t-thanks sky

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I've never touched the postgame or any of the special episodes in Sky. How fucked am I? I remember Rescue Team had some brutal dungeons.
>tfw too dumb to quicksave in 99 floor autosave dungeons

>>26390426
The difficulty keeps a nice sane curve. I beat them as a shitter pre-teen.

The only one I recall being just stupid OP was the very final lava place where you had that retard who floated onto the lava and was made of paper

>>26390426
Most of them aren't bad. Only one or two of the special episodes gave me problems.

>>26390426
Are you a bad enough dude to take on ZIS and Destiny Tower?

>>26390510
ChromSquad

>>26390510
HelpMe

>>26390510
Team DICKS

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>>26390558
you got it chief

>>26390578
why do I have a feeling this will be an awkward relationship?

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>>26390578

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>>26390578
>eevee partner

>>26390602
>partner
>not the main player
it's fine Anon

>>26390578
>Astrid

>>26390602
>>26390607

I feel like I'm missing out on something here
>>26390609
>he doesn't give recruited pokemon nicknames

>>26390611
Eevee is one of the worst Pokemon since you can't evolve it until postgame.

>>26390607
I'm pretty sure the protag doesn't actually say anything

>>26390618
That tends to be how it goes for all the pokemon, anon
>evolving your pokemon

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>>26390611
you know, it's sad to say, but many people said they wanted to meme to die and be forgotten
yet here we see, people basically dragging it back to say "fuck you"
when we say, let the meme die, you're not suppose to keep talking about the meme

>>26390630
No coverage or range though.

>>26390387
No but you should have jk's save manager installed anyway.

So what exactly do the other options dialog options you get at the start of PSMD do? I choose to tell my partner that they could be a bit annoying so they sulked and ignored for the rest of the chapter then got over it and never mentioned it again.

>>26391121
Same thing happens if you choose the other option, they just get angry rather than depressed.

If you refuse to let Nuzleaf help you at the beginning, he starts begging for you to let him help you. He gets on is knees and everything. Then it's just a loop until you accept.

>>26391151
wait, what do they get mad about?

>>26390578
you know you should probably get rid of the shit on the bottom

>>26391213
It only shows up in screenshots and I don't care enough to fix it

>>26391175
I've just heard that's what happens, I haven't actually chosen it. I'm pretty sure I wrongly implied something about your post. You said you told them they were annoying? That's the option I was thinking of. I guess wherever I heard the angry hing was a lie.

In the end, though, both options yield the same result because both options have you telling the partner they're annoying either directly or indirectly, so it doesn't really matter I guess.

>>26391253
they didn't get angry at all, they just cried and ran off so they didn't annoy me anymore, then avoided me

>want to youtube it to find out
>don't want to deal with the autism of the kind of person who makes let's plays of spinoff pokemon games

>>26391290
The option of "not telling them" is just rephrasing it to basically "You're not annoying, but sometimes your stunts cause other people trouble."

Anyone have a PSMD soundtrack download link?
Or did I miss it in the OP?

>>26391175
I disliked that. I like the partner and chose that option. The protagonist went like "yeah i'll like them its true though they're annoying i'll just tell them that regardless lol"

>>26391383
well it technically is in the op since you can extract it directly from the rom, but no it's not directly there if i remember correctly

>>26391383
>>26392238
you can just put your cartridge in a CD player and it will play the soundtrack

Where is the partnerXbigdaddydilfpops content?

>>26389930
Have enemies use items more often.

lewd SnivyXSpecialCake art when

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>>26395324
Maybe after I get done with Suicune lewd things, if it turns out well enough

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>>26395384
>Suicune lewd things
What?
What what what?
What what what what what what what?

>>26395409
Mienshao Suicune main universe lewd fic

I played Pokken

>>26395450
Yeah, I get that you play Pokken My Suicune main brother, but what's this about Meinshao? Did they add the based fightan weasel to the game?
I've been out of the loop in regards to Pokken since the threads moved from /vg/ back to /vp/

>>26395462
Nah, it's just my favorite pokemon. I needed an excuse to put one in, you know, since Suicune would have a difficult time being lewd on its own.

I'm also the faggot that wrote Ears so there's that.

>>26395474
>I'm also the faggot that wrote Ears so there's that.
And suddenly the universe made sense

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>>26397062
>Everyone thought the scarves meant SMD had customization like X/Y
>It didn't
>And to kick you while you're down you lose them

>>26397119
It hurts for sure, especially that spoiler. There's always next game, r-right?

Even if we just get scarves or something preset again, I at least don't want to lose them at the end of the game.

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>TFW considering doom seeding my starters to squeeze more playability out of Sky

WHY CAN'T THEY JUST MAKE ANOTHER GOOD PMD ALREADY

>>26397252
Don't do it, anon. I know when I try to force myself to keep playing a game, I enjoy it less and less even if I loved it. 130 hours in Explorers and 200 in Super have taught me that sometimes you have to let go of the things you love.

I'm replaying Super one last time, then I'll probably leave these games to rest.

>>26398807
Do you think Torchic misses having arms?

>>26398865
You got some kinda fetish?

>>26398889
oh no, not at all, that is the protag of that series of pics isn't it?

>>26398865
I've never thought about that before. I'd imagine it would be weird just like becoming a Mudkip or Turtwig would be but the Torchic line never skips leg day and chicken thighs are better than chicken wings.

>>26398903
Yeah, Torchic is the player in this series.

>>26398903
Yeah, I just figured with the way you typed it that you had one. They probably do, but being able to shoot of thousand degree fireballs would more than make up for it. Plus, you know you're getting them back later when you evolve.

>>26398865
>>26398913
Or Wooper

Actually, the protagonist of the RT manga is a Torchic, I wonder if they said something about this? I have yet to read it because I want to replay RT first, so I don't know yet

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Is it ever addressed if the human player character in the games is supposed to come from the Pokemon human world where he/she would've been a trainer, or the boring human world where they're one of us?

The MC always clearly recognizes and knows what pokemon are but I can't think of it that detail comes up anywhere

>>26399044
They come from a world where Pokémon exist, but I think only Rescue Team mentions them being trainers.

>>26399068
>Rescue Team mentions them being trainers
Uhm? I don't think so, I don't remember anything like that.

>>26399044
GtI's postgame.

>>26399110
Didn't Gardevoir call the human her master or something like that?

>>26399044
Seems to very between game. Explorers presumably comes from a world with pokemon since he/she was friends with Grovyle, but Gates did some 4th wall shenanigans, implying that it's supposed to come from the real world.

>>26399227
>Explorers
It's not from another world, it's from the future
Humans do exist in the PMD world, they're just... more legendary than legendary Pokémon

Then there's a mention to Mt. Coronet which makes everything strange with an out place reference to the main series lol

>>26399268
Yeah, that weirded me out, as well. They just put it there and didn't mention it anywhere ever again.

Humans have to exist as a population somewhere in PMD. The human in Explorers' future didn't just appear out of nowhere. Unless they did, which would be bullshit.

But we don't know how far in the future Grovyle and company came from. Even with Super presumably taking place in Explorers' future, Pancham says humans are basically fairy tales.

>>26399388
Maybe there is a very small and secluded population of humans in the world.

>>26399471
I like to think that all humans except a few stranded ones like the bad future human left.

>>26399666
And went where? Alpha Centauri?

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>>26399666
Point of interest next game?

>>26399705
>Human arrives
>Disaster looms
>Human prevents said incoming disaster
It's happened four times in the same world. You'd think they'd be treated like gods by now.

>>26399724
I know, right? It's so completely frustrating that the MC's and partners from past games aren't mentioned anywhere except for a couple lines in Super. They're legends! Their stories should be taught in schools because they're the world's fucking heroes. It's not fair.

However, the opposite could be even more interesting, with Humans being associated with disasters like Absol. And the next game could be in like a revisionist future where it's said that the humans caused the disasters.

>>26399700
Planet size pokemon when

>>26399768
Or perhaps a split: Some pokemon see them as heroes, others as doombringers. Could help add a bit of tension to the earlier parts of the story, knowing that the MC should keep his human identity a secret given the way others could react if they found out.

>>26399388
RT mentions humans in the friend areas description. It can be assumed they're almost extinct. Both GtI and Super mentions humans being in fairy tales and stuff. I thought it was weird before GtI as well, but if they do get mentioned and Pokémon know what a human is then human should exist/should have existed. The most logical explanation for the Explorers protagonist is that they're just extremely rare now.

>>26399848
That kind of reminds me of the fugitives part in RT.

>>26400011
What if The main villain's a human. May or may not have also turned into a pokemon

>>26400448
That would be great. Anything that's not a legendary. I want the villain to be Banette or some shit like that. At least that way the villain isn't unique so they don't have to be absolved for recruitment's sake, while also being a Pokémon and not a concept given a physical form.

>>26400625
Banette would be... tiny I guess. Cool though. Maybe it could control physical object or something like that, to make it, uh, more threatening I guess.

>>26400798
I just used it as an example, I just mean that I want the villain to be a regular Pokémon that rose to power or came into possession of power. Even if it's a Ghost/Dark/Poison type, as stereotypical as that is.

>>26400625
Maybe he/she was trapped in the pokemon world for ages and went mad over not being able to go home, or maybe he/she was summoned before the MC. The MC was only summoned because the summoner realised that they summoned a complete bastard by mistake.

>>26397119
>get kickass scarves
>stylish
>also lets you evolve just for dungeons without losing your cute unevolved sprites on the overworld

>you get to keep neither the style nor the power

>>26399119
gengar seems like he'd do lewd things with his gardevoir

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>pansear used incinerate!
>one oran berry in the bag was burned!
>pansear used incinerate!
>one oran berry in the bag was burned!
>pansear used incinerate!
>one oran berry in the bag was burned!

>>26400962
I once got a golden seed plucked. You can't comprehend how mad I was.

>>26400926
>Neither Carracosta nor the player/partner together make replacements
Did they just not think of this?

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>>26400945
I agree.

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>>26393303
Not wanting pops for yourself

>>26401031
>not resetting

>>26401940
>resetting

>>26400625
I liked how the recruitment issue was dealt with Darkrai

>>26401940
I got it in that dungeon though. why the hell would I not stash a golden seed asap?

>>26402274
You must have been on a randomizer, you simply don't find those outside chests in dungeons

I want a DS flashcard so I can play randomized EoS on my console ;_;

>>26401100
Scarves gone
Want the scarves back, both for looks and in case something were to go wrong again in the future
Ask Mew to make them again, assuming it even remembers how to
They need a lot more materials than just fibers from the tree of life, adventuring ensues

so they throw in all of those cameos to the old games in Super but they couldn't make the grass continent's town Treasure Town?

>>26402410
It'd probably be kinda shitty. Most of the shops would be inaccessible, if not completely gone. Same thing for Pokémon Square.

Apparently, though, Treasure Town's music is in the game's files. It was either cut (likely) or it's gonna be DLC (not as likely).

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>>26402452
oh man this is making me so very cross my panties are very much so in a twist

the only thing that would really be deprecated would be the egg shop

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>>26402452
This, desu. After how pasty and weak the actual cameos were (save for a scant few good ones like the bad future gang's and Armaldo's), having the actual towns probably would have made it all even worse.

>>26402668
I didn't have a problem with the cameos, what made them weak? Maybe it would have been cool if some of them were unique with regards to the mission types, but I thought they were fine as is without special treatment.

>>26402791
maybe the reason they're weak is that they appear as random npcs
what they say is nice, but there's no reason for all of those pokemon to be wandering around really
this is what was supposed to be the main thing of post town, and it felt weak. because gti is literally super's prototype

>>26403264
I never played GTI. Can you elaborate? I don't care about spoilers for it.

>>26403264
Yeah, I won't disagree with you in saying it could have been more. Definitely would have been nice if there were quest chains or something like what Rescue Team did with the legendaries.

The system wasn't perfect, and they probably should have done like one more game to iron out the edges before trying something like this. It's a shame because I don't think they'll do something like this again, at least on the scale Super attempted. But I don't know, maybe the next game could do it on a much smaller scale and do it better, like with just NPC's from that game.

>>26403595
Post Town is said to be a place where a lot of Pokémon stop by when going from a dungeon to another. As in lots of Pokémon, or at least that was what I expected. This only amounted to a few and most of them stay with you once they get there. Super instead places random NPCs everywhere and it kind of feels out of place. I was saying the random NPCs in Super would have made more sense if they were in GtI, they wouldn't have been awkward. It might even be an idea that originated while developing GtI but they couldn't actually use much because of the lack of Pokémon species.

>>26403607
That kind of stuff would be nice too

>>26402791
They all feel really contrived, and honestly make the game world feel less solid or worse than they would have otherwise. It's partly related to the fact that the game thinks only one Pokemon of each species exists (save for the exceptions, I know, I know) - it feels really, really forced for you to just so happen to meet up with the Chimecho from Wigglytuff Guild, or for you to just so happen to meet up with Hydreigon, or so on and so forth. It applies to basically all of the cameos, but it's worse with some more than others. The reason I point to stuff like Grovyle and Celebi's mission and Armaldo's mission as some of the better ones is because there's more to them than just a couple bland lines of dialogue, which helps to mask it better. Grovyle and Celebi get a decent bit of banter, and the whole Armaldo setup is how I feel like the cameos should have been set up from the start, jobs with a good setup and some good dialogue and things all working to make them significant. By comparison, Whiscash (and Team ACT by proxy), the other Wigglytuff Guildmembers (including Chatot and the big 'tuff himself), so on and so forth, all felt really dumb and unsatisfying.

Basically, what >>26403607 said. If the cameos had some real meat to them, I'd have liked them much better.

>>26404065
that hydreigon can't really be out of place desu
i agree on the rest though

>>26404065
>both of those are me
Yeah, I get it. Maybe I'm settling, I don't know. I know it could have been more, but I'm not exactly disappointed that it wasn't.

I wanna fug my partner

>>26404244
>next game adds Social Links
>you can take your partner on "dates"
>if you max the Social Link you get more time with your partner before you have to leave

>>26404286
>fading out of existence at the end
>your partner wishes for you back
>whatever god mon final boss of the game says he can't just bend the rules like that

>not maxed out and they tearfully say goodbye before moving on with their life

>max out your partner only and they decide to wish to go with you instead

>max out everyone and the god mon has to bring you back or risk getting impeached by the masses
you have to get literally every connection in the game PSMD style before completing the main quest or you don't get a post game :^)

>>26404448
>not an alternative postgame where you need to go back in time and get the good ending

>>26404448
I actually wouldn't mind having different endings, with some super strict extraordinary requirements for the absolute best ending. As long as you aren't forced to replay the hole game because you missed something, it could be good.

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>the second Dark Matter battle theme

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>>26404993
>The partner's theme every single time after having beaten the game once

>>26405006
Is there anyway I can datamine Explorers of Sky? I want to find the sets of dialogue they use for your team members when they're in dungeons.

>>26404181
To be fair, you're probably better off for settling, since I can't seem to really let go of the lost potential. I've kind of wanted to pull a Matthewmatosis and make a big video picking Super apart (both goods and bads), but I don't have the energy or guts to do it. Kinda wish I did.

is it me or are battles a lot longer/my moves a lot weaker than in older games?

If I'm not imagining it I guess that's why all the levels so far have been like 13 floors at most

>>26405308
Enemies are stronger and hunger decreases faster, so dungeons are shorter to compensate.

>>26405307
Eh, I don't really think you need to anymore. General opinion of Super has been degrading more and more as time has gone on.

>>26405345
>has been degrading more and more as time has gone on.
why? No spoilers pls

>>26405446
Because at first people compared it to STI from which it could only be favorable, then they started comparing it to Explorers.

>>26405456
>comparing it to Explorers
but anything compared to Explorers is going to look like a turd in a bun

>>26405486
Still, there are people that like Super more. And it's not exactly unfair since they're both games in the same series.

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>>26404448
>>26404286
>Wanting to Personafy PMD
FUCK YOU

>>26405722
C'mon, man. Pokémon waifus/husbandos will be canon.

But really, I wouldn't actually mind if there was something like character questlines in these games, or if there was a loyalty system like Binary Domain or Mass Effect.

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>>26405778
>>26405778
You are saying that as if the partner wasn't your husbando in the game.
Especialy in SKY

>>26405852
You're right, it's not like the MC and partner don't already love each other at the end of these games. It would just lessen the amount I have to write about since it would already be in the game

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>>26405899
>Not making fanfiction of your hubando with love and dedication

>>26405929
Oh I do, believe me, there's a lot of "love" in these fanfics. Having it in-game would just be fulfilling a need, that's all.

I'm a sham.

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>get fucked on floor 9 of revelation mountain
>it doesn't start you at the section with magnezone and poliwrath

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>Treecko gesticulates while talking the same way I do in real life.
Fuck Froakie. Fuck Chespin. Treecko was made for me.

>>26406133
What's he do again?

>>26406229
He moves his right hand up and down with his hand open. Kinda looks like he's fanning himself.

I know I'm not the only one who does that, it's just a little thing that I wasn't expecting.

I want to suck Grovyle's dick while the Partner and Celibi watch

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>>26406317
Dude, that's fucked up.

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Is Totodile meant to come across as a mental patient?

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>>26407488
Totodile looks a bit...special from certain angles, like pic related

>>26405160
http://pastebin.com/Xmpdnv1g
Got this using one of psy_commando's tools a while ago.
Don't know how the game assigns them to Pokémon, though.

Nice! Were you able to get the Spinda's Cafe standby quotes too?

>>26408724
>>26409477

>>26409477
And also, I need the quotes for when their health is down, when they're about to faint, and when they level up if that's possible.

>>26409477
>>26409526
http://pastebin.com/c90vSNe8
Here are the level-up and Spinda's Café messages.
The others are in >>26408724.

>>26409526
Out of curiosity, what do you need them for?

>>26409779
I want to see which pokemon has which set of dialogue, and distinguish them by gender.

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>>26407488

>>26412324
>Totodile wants to unleash Uroboros

>>26412499
he wants everyone to eat ass

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>>26414340
Totodile is pure!

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Who should I make my partner in Super? It'd be so much easier for me to choose if they had shitmons/non-starter choices like in the first two games to even things out.

>>26416875
Who are you playing as?

>>26416891
Totodile.

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>>26416901
Pic related is considered one of the best supports in the game. Chespin is also really good. They both fit the partner's personality in this game well in my opinion. I'm a bit biased though, because this game made me love Fennekin.

I also like Snivy and Torchic, but that's less for gameplay reasons and more that I just like them as Pokémon. I really like most of the starter Pokémon so I don't know how else to narrow it down for you.

i just got super, i started with fennekin and snivy. Is there any point i can change them? im kinda over them

>>26417308
Hey you're that cute Cherubi from that thread yesterday! Hi!
Not really. You can play as other Pokémon later on, but those 2 will remain the main characters.

>>26417308
Let us know what you think about the game as you progress

>>26417317
Hii! i thought you could in old games i guess not oh well
>>26417327
i hate snivy and the wand makes it too easy to do stuff. i like it other than that im about to start after the gabite stuff

>>26417385
It was only in Rescue Team that you could walk around the hub as other Pokémon, but in all the games you can play as other Pokémon in dungeons, you just can't do it for story dungeons.

If you hate Snivy so much, just restart.

>>26417407
haha i just think is autistic as a partner always being dumb

>>26417434
The personality is always the same regardless anyway. It'd be cool if they made them different though.

>>26417407
>It was only in Rescue Team that you could walk around the hub as other Pokémon
GtI kind of almost did half of that

>>26417434
Oh, you don't like their personality?

Cut Snivy some slack, it's a literal child.

omg why do the other kids hate snivy im so sad for him

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>>26417513
It's so strange to see the inverse of the most popular pairing for PMD4.

my thoughts on the school.

espurr: who
shelmet and pancham: i love how they bully people but are wimps
deerlign: who
Farfetch'd: i love how hes a teacher
goomy: bad handwriting

will espurr and deerling ever do something

>>26417550
>will espurr and deerling ever do something
Oh man. You're in for a fucking ride. One of them is the best character in the game.

omg why did the teacher cuck espurr thats so sad

ok quick break, sorry if im spamming i just love how cute this game is atm

>>26417608
>sorry if im spamming
It's ok. I'm enjoying reading your playthrough though I need to go now so I'll read it later
You're also not the first one to do it her anyway, and I'm pretty sure most people here (if not everyone) enjoy it as well.

>>26417608
No need to apologize! You're good, we used to have a few people who would post their progress in the other games. I'm also enjoying your commentary.

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>>26417584
What are you talking about?
Espurrs psyschi support is great

>>26417608
The school is super cute and I loved it

Pancham listen up here boi, i am not a slowpoke i have never been a slowpoke every dungeon i have cleared in the speed of time. I will never be a slowpoke because i am not that type of player, you will always be a slowpoke because you are that type of player. Dummy

why are there dinosaurs in the school forest that doesnt seem rly safe

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>>26417778
It is not like slowpokes are cute or anything!

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im scared for goomy 2 dinosaurs started screaming at it and it got blown away send help omg

oh fuck goomy cant get it started he just cant keep up :((( i think his morale was lowered by the tyrunts omg

omg im ok with snivy being bullied he doesnt support goomy he must leave

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>>26417965
>Letting your Partner be bullied
HERESY

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theory: what if espurr was just follwing us through the bushes and was just talking instead of using her psychic powers

>>26417975
Its snivy and he deserves it

snivy: i dont know why i get bullied desu senpai..... why... what the heck......

snivy is the worst can he like die or idk

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>>26418008
YOUR JOB IS TO PROTECT THE SMILE OF YOUR PARTHER YOU FAGGOT PLANT

omg im so happy i told snivy how it is, i spilled the t and he cried omg ty game

>>26417890
>bullied by Pancham and Shelmet
>neutrally regarded by Deerling and Revolver Espurr
>ditched by the partner
Being Goomy is suffering. Mod where I can make Goomy my partner instead when?

>>26418046
no snivy is worst partner litterally i rather have chimcar or chikorita bitch

>>26418049
:(

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>>26418063
It has nothing to do with your Partner's specie, you can pick that.
He is your Partner and you should cheerish him

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>>26418063
Your speech pattern is dumb and you are quite rude to your friend. Perhaps the game will think that you don't deserve to have them as a friend at all.

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>>26418078
no, snivy is clearly a special case of autism no other snivy is like this one horribly crippled mentally and socially
>>26418086
i am only rude because he bullied goomy and is being really crude

omg why is there a lil baby budew and sunkern all we need is cherubi now omg

ok fags im goign to sleep that was fun i hope i can continue my bullying snivy adventure tommorow with yall

>>26418161
Okay, thanks for keeping us entertained, though you can stop being a bully at any point.

>>26418178
when snivy stops acting rude i will stop the bully

also thoughts on my pictures on iconic events that happen (in my eyes

>>26418190
Masterpieces. But really, they're actually funny, especially the Espurr one.

>>26418190
A 10/10 accurate portrayal of what it feels to be Goomy.

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pelipper_(Red_and_Blue_Rescue_Team)

"A certain Pelipper delivers mail to the player's rescue base. After the player tells the partner that the balance of the world is in space, the partner asks Pelipper to take them into space. Pelipper tells them "no way" before flying off again."

Was the writing of Rescue Team really that bad? Were my standards THAT low?

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>>26419430
In its defense, it's played for comedy and only happens if you can trick the partner into thinking so. Messing with the RT partner with the dialogue menus is some of the stronger parts of the duo interaction in this game, IMO.

>>26419794
I started playing this for the first time yesterday. Loving it thus far.
Anything I should watch out for?

>>26419823
Anything in Skitty's family. Skitty in Joyous tower is THE deadliest enemy in the entire game. Delcatty is in Northwind Field, and isn't as deadly due to not having your level set to 1, but Attract+Cute Charm+Doubleslap+Sing can waste minutes

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>>26419823
Gameplay-wise? Recruit an Electrike while climbing Mt. Thunder to turn Zapdos into a joke.
Story-wise, it starts to pick up once you get to Great Canyon.

I'm finally gonna replay Rescue Team. After not having played since release and using an Action Replay to cheat max levels and shit like that after I beat it, I'm finally gonna play through the post-game legit.

Starting as Cubone with Pikachu as my partner.

>>26419430
It was clearly a joke

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>Cubone doesn't start with any attacking moves
>doesn't learn one until level 9
Oh boy. This'll be fun.

>>26422492
lucky for you the default attack is at its strongest in rescue team

hi anti-snivy bullies, should i start playing again

>>26422824
If I remember correctly, moves don't replenish at boss rooms, right? I have to be kind of conservative either way. So yeah, lucky me I guess.

>>26422837
Of course!

>>26422837
Yes!

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OMG things are getting heated between Snivy And The Bullies

>snivy: Do u guys tink i can be in the clan?
>the bullies: no

im so glad even the game knows that snivy is to be bullied

I loved SMD's story for the most part but every time I see the part where your partner starts anime-jumping from rock to rock to catch up to the Tree floating away, I cringe. That is the most retarded shit in any PMD game's story.

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omg im so scared why is watchog in a school he looks so scary he needs to leave

thats so sad everyone shook their head but shelmet couldnt :(

>>26423160
Nah. It's up there, but it's not the worst. Flying on Lapras got me more.

>>26423160
I thought that part was pretty cool. Really showed the partner's determination.

Theory: Watchog could show the kids what the enemas looked like but in reality was just him having a hallucination and the kids just went along since this was normal for him.

omfg my theory was ruined by snivy exposing him wtf. see this is why i bully snivy, he himself is a bully

>>26423210
Do you like Naruto or something?

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Does PSMD's story/postgame let me use more than just the starter, partner, and plotline characters? I loved Explorers but what really bugged me was that a lot of the missions didn't let me use any recruits.

>>26423160
>>26423205
>>26423210

It's even dumber when your partner is Totodile. His fatass couldn't jump for shit.

>>26423337
Only the post-game, just like Explorers.

>>26423337
When you're not doing story dungeons, you can use whoever you like.

DEERLING DIED TO DIENO SOEMONE HELP HIM

>>26423346
Totodile in Super is suffering. The face, the model as a whole. It's not fair.

>>26423525
>he's not satisfied

Does anyone have an image of PSMD's world map by any chance?

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>>26424206
Sure thing.

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>>26424228
Thanks, bro!

>>26424306
No problem. What did you want it for? Anything interesting?

>>26424346
Just autism.

Maybe see if I can recreate the map in one of my strategy games

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>Combee ate the Tiny Reviver Seed

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>>26425267
that's it?

>>26425371
Christ, I forgot about that bullshit. I consider myself lucky to have never attempted any of the Zero Isles. I'd go crazy.

I feel pretty dumb for never using Spinda's Cafe until recently. All those gummi stat/IQ bonuses are insane.

>>26425681
I wouldn't feel dumb about that. I never used any gummis and looked up online what the best thing to do with them was after I beat the game. Even then, I used to only use the best gummis for my starter/partner.

>Q: Everyone says Chespin is the best. Why?
>A: Chespin starts with several good moves. Rollout and Pin Missile both hit multiple times, Pin Missile being ranged, and once you boost your speed and accuracy, you absolutely destroy everything. In the postgame, it gets Drain Punch/Power-Up Punch as well. Chespin has range, power, and it's cute too.

The test says I'm a totodile. I don't know if Totodile learns good moves or not. Is he any good?

>>26426091
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Totodile_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29

All Pokémon in Super Mystery Dungeon use the ORAS table for learnset, TMs, and tutor moves.

I don't have any experience with Totodile so I can't comment on that, but the game does a good job making a lot of Pokémon viable, though, so you shouldn't be too much worse off if you stick with Totodile instead of the OP Chespin.

You should use whichever Pokémon you want. You're going to suffer if you get stuck with a Pokémon you don't like.

>>26426091
I've heard people say good things about Totodile's moveset, but as someone who adamantly refuses to take a water starter I can't say for sure. I hope Popplio ends up being really good

>>26426200
Yeah the FAQ says the game uses ORAS moves but I don't know how good they are in the mystery dungeons games. I only played red rescue team and it's been like 10 years.

I really like Totodile but I don't like Feraligatr that much. I always thought Thyphlosion was the best looking starter ever so I might go with Cyndaquil+Turtwig/Bulbasaur.

>>26426255
Not a big fan of water starters either but Totodile, Squirtle and Froakie are among my favorite starters.

>>26426436
You don't have to evolve if you don't want to, it's completely optional. All Pokémon have the same stat cap, and all of them can reach it.

>>26428508
hmmm.... yeah, my dream team
until super
where you get the true Special Doggo to cherish

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>>26428799
It used to be a rule of mine to make a different team every game, but I've fallen in love with Fennekin thanks to Super and I might just pick it for every game from now on.

>>26430677
cute pic cute pamcham deerling cute!

So I got to the post game of SPMD, but i'm pretty under leveled. Only mid 30s. What's the quickest way to grind?

>>26430843
btw I'm a mudkip

>>26430843
Jeez, I was only level 23 when I beat the game.

The best thing you can do is buy vitamins from Cofagrigus. Much better than grinding.

>>26431002
Oh I was much lower when I beat the game, this is just what I'm at now

>>26431009
Oh, sorry.

Also forgot to ask. Have you beaten the epilogue? Do you have the Water Looplet? The Looplet lets vitamins pass through all objects. Equip it to your third party member and throw vitamins through your starter and partner. Reset if something like a Sitrus Berry misses, but don't sweat it if a Carbos or something misses because you'll be drowning in Gold Bars to buy more.

>>26431027
I haven't beaten epilogue, but I do have the Water Looplet

>>26431041
Your first priority is beating that epilogue. I don't think you should have trouble with the dungeons at your level because I beat them as soon as I beat the game, but it doesn't hurt to overprepare with wands and the like.

>>26431062
Ok will do, thanks anon

>>26431084
No problem. Good luck!

is charmander + chikorita/bulbasaur a good combo in super? I beat the game before, I went torchic+pikachu because I decided to stick with the test results. I didn't like torchic but pikachu was pretty good. sure she wasn't the most useful pokemon ever but she was still decent and the portraits were amazing.

it really felt like pikachu was the intended partner.

>>26431444
The most expressive pokemon are typically the ones people are going to feel are intended, Super's is especially emotional most of the time. Shit like Snivy are typically better as main characters.

>>26430714

How do I combine piles of Gravelerocks in Blue Rescue Team?

>>26433032
>place rocks on ground
>step off
>step back on
>boom they're combined

Sadly, in RT, if a stack gets sticky they'll stay stuck, whereas in Explorers if you find sticky rocks on the ground, you can unsticky them just by hitting Sort to sort them into your rocks

>>26433032
put one on the ground, get it back

Would it ever be possible to have a PSMD starter randomizer/editor like in EoS? Using Zigzagoon as my leader was pretty fun but also a pain in the ass due to Gluttony.

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>>26435879
Should be possible. This thread has a little bit of discussion on editing the starter/partner.
https://projectpokemon.org/forums/showthread.php?46904
I've heard that there are some powersaves codes which can change the starter/partner, too.

I wonder what it would do at the points in the game where you evolve.

>>26436023
It would likely crash.

>>26436160
Or maybe it just grabs the ID of the Pokémon two spaces ahead, in which case you could turn into a completely different Pokémon.

>>26436643
But Pikachu to Raichu is only one space. I don't think it goes forward two spaces unless Pikachu is an exception.

>>26436667
Then maybe it just keeps evolving the Pokémon until it can't evolve any further. Then Pokémon who don't evolve would be completely unchanged yet powered-up all the same.

>>26436809
I hope whoever's working on this can find out what happens

>>26436809
Yeah, maybe. I wonder what the scene itself looks like, considering the characters are supposed to do a pose.

I also wonder about the scarves. Do they not appear on non-standard starters?

>>26438018
In Explorers, any abnormal starter uses the generic walking animation as a placeholder if nothing's assigned for them. This even extends to evolved starters in the postgame, who actually are available normally, and they just use the walking animation when they sleep. In Rescue Team, the game just freezes if the starters are abnormal and they need to use an animation they don't have.

I'd assume the game would either use a placeholder animation or the game would crash.

>>26438530
I'd hope for placeholder animation simply because it's not the first game anymore, but it's probably different with models

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>Wide Slash
>Type: None
What?

>>26438686
I don't know, but gen 1 (and maybe 2) had at least one ???-type move as well. Don't know why, though. It's amazing and I'm not complaining.

>>26438686
it's typeless. Think your default attack only it's better and hits 3 targets

>>26423160
I found it dumb for a number of reasons aside from that. Like what was the partner even planning to do on their own if they'd actually made it up there? And seeing the MC I was supposed to self-insert as helping them out just annoyed me even more.

>>26423368
>Deerling
>him

>>26440532
>what was their plan
Honestly, I thought it was going to make us play as the partner solo. Maybe I'm a little slow on the uptake, but that moment solidified in my mind that it's the partner's story. Not that I minded.

Are the Wiiware games worth giving a shot? Have a .wad file for one of them sitting on my computer for a while now, and I thought it'd be a nice change of pace before going onto Sky's post-Dialga story.
Is there even any plot besides "oh shit someone's trapped help them Growlithe btw you're now a rescue team member now"

>Skarmory has like 50 health
What the fuck? Even as a first boss, that was so underwhelming.

>>26442212
All of the Rescue Team bosses can be cheesed one way or another, usually with the Attract TM which makes everyone, even legendaries, unable to do anything for a number of turns.
Without it though, a few bosses might be a pain like Articuno, since you've probably used a lot of your resources on Moltres and if you have a Grass type Powder Snow will one-shot it.

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Can somebody help me out please?

>>26443413
Can you take a better picture? I seem to be unable to scan

>>26443562
>>26443413
Nevermind! Nevermind! Give me a minute!

>>26443587
>>26443562
>>26443413
Okay! On my way! Just sit tight!

goddamn I don't know which pokemon I want to be

I've been in the selection screen for 2 hours.

>>26443894
Pick blindly, and love it forever, anon.

>>26443926
The test says I'm a Totodile, my partner is Riolu. I don't like Riolu.

Which pokemon has the best offensive moveset?

>>26443992
Chespin, apparently.
Go with Totodile main if you're really unsure, you might end up liking it more than you think.
It happened to what I got on RT.

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>>26443815
>>26443587
>>26443562
>>26443413
Yep yep

>>26444001
I'm going with Totodile and Chikorita and I'm going to love it.

>>26440672
They're ok.

The plot is "hey i have chocolate" "oh nooo you stole my chocolate!!!!" "hey lets go to that place!" "there's a threasure!" "hey we find the treasure now ok" "WOW WE FOUND THE TREASURE" "it's a bunch of cookies, let's eat them together instead of stealing them from one another like we did with chocolate!" "OK NOW LETS GO FIGHT ARCEUS NOW"

>>26444030
>that last spoiler
wait what really?

new thread when

>>26444064
Yeah, I think it's the only boss in the game

>>26423160
That wasn't a quarter as bad as the ending. I know people compare it to a Syamalan twist ending, but even he would say 'calm the fuck down' to that.

new thread

>>26444960
>>26444960
>>26444960

>>26444010
Thanks man.

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>>26445243
>>26444010
And here's my thank you mail.