Flawless

>>26368297
The region is worse than Hoenn and Sinnoh.

>>26368386
/thread

>>26368386
>>26368389
Prove this objectively.

Yeah, the logos for the Unova games were excellent.

BW1 were pretty poor entries though.

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>>26368391
This is like some NSMB forced diversification

>>26368386
Which isn't hard, hoenn and sinnoh are top tier regions.

But I agree, unova was horrible

>>26368391
i said so

>>26368399
>What is metropolitan NYC
Looks like the point flew right over your head. Design wise, you can nit pick it all you want, that wont change the execution as being well done. Game play wise, it's actually complimentary and serves its purpose better than Hoenn or Sinnoh, the former of which is a complete mismatched mess and the latter being HM Slaves: The Region.

>>26368391
>prove your opinion
>unironic shitpost
typical gen5fag

>>26368406
>>What is metropolitan NYC
I never said this. Who are you quoting?

>Famitsu (40/40) (Only reviews that ACTUALLY matter in JRPG scene. And before you shill the "muh paid reviews" meme, keep in mind they gave worse reviews for X and Y)
>Game Informer (8.75/10)
>Videogamer (9/10)
>Nintendo Power (9/10)
>Edge (8/10)
>ONM (95%)
>IGN (9/10)
>HIGHEST Metacritic Aggregate score of ANY Pokemon game tied only with XY and RB

Literally the only people who think Gen V is bad are mouthbreathing NEETs who are mad they gave up on the franchise between 2009 and 2013 and missed out.

Also the majority of people who have major issues with Gen V haven't even played it in full.

>>26368414
Hello, newfriend.

>>26368399
Unova is fine when it comes to uniform region design; it had to be to make the seasons work out. Hoenn is fine too. The only problem with either are the deserts.

Now Kalos, that's a mess. Fucking climate and season changes entirely with every compass direction.

>>26368423
This

>>26368419
So you're talking to yourself and think taking scores out of context is something people care about?

>>26368423
>but it's fine
It's worse than Hoenn and Sinnoh, thus not flawless. I don't really give a damn what you think is 'fine' or not.

Perfection.

God if sun and moon cound sound atleast as half as amazing as gen 5 music did(XY music wasn't bad, it was just nowhere near as great as gen 5) and a challenge mode i'd be so fucking happy.

>>26368429
>taking scores out of context
Explain how you can even take numeric scores out of context, please. They're numbers given by critics. How else can they be represented.

>>26368432
>they're given by critics
You're so idiotic. I can't take you seriously. Feel free to think I'm the one 'shitposting' if that makes you feel at ease. You're a child. That's just so painfully obvious at this point.

>>26368419
You contradicted yourself in your own goddamn post.
Holy fuck this planet is filled with retards.
Even worse is they like gen 5 the best.

>>26368437
>they're given by critics
>You're so idiotic.
>implying they aren't
Who writes the Famitsu reviews then, /v/eddit?

Also
>being this mad you have to derail the topic that keeps being shoved in your face

>>26368439
>You contradicted yourself in your own goddamn post.
What did he mean by this?

>>26368386
Kill yourself hoennfag

>>26368419
>implying professional reviews matter at all

I've played both BW1 and BW2 extensively and BW1 is pretty shit. Less postgame or side game than DP, railroaded main story because they wanna shove their shitty wannabe standard JRPG plot at you, start of the casualization people only seemed to notice with XY, and maybe something's wrong with my cart but when I revisited it recently it felt really sluggish, even more than fucking DP which I recently replayed as well.

BW2 are my favorite Pokemon games though. So much to do, so much to see, all the new areas make Unova the biggest region, story doesn't feel forced on you as much and the characters while not as "deep" are more likable and memorable, large Pokemon roster without being too bloated like XY which has way more Pokemon but far less areas to hold them in making the world feel even more disjointed than its map already does, tons of really nice polish added like auto-Repel, they're just great.

>>26368444
Have you ever actually read a Famitsu review?

>you're just mad
For me to be mad I first have to take you seriously. I don't get mad that easily though, that's some Freudian shit right there.

>>26368457
?

>>26368429
Unova has great unity. Though from a game design standpoint it is weaker than Kanto, and a bit weaker than Sinnoh and Hoenn I'd say. Still way above Johto or Kalos there though.

>>26368297
BW was objectively trash

To be quite honest if I wanted to play a game with a good story I would have read a book. Pokemon is better without that "deep lore" which is imo cringe as hell.

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>>26368297
>got two life orbs and a choice scarf before clay's gym

based games are based

>>26368419
>Only reviews that ACTUALLY matter in JRPG scene.
kek
http://gamerevolution.com/features/famitsu-sucks

>HIGHEST Metacritic Aggregate score of ANY Pokemon game tied only with XY and RB
No, XY is higher

>>26368297
Gen V was pretty good, but it is nowhere near flawless. BW2's main story was so bland.

>>26368595
Of all things to complain about gen 5, you list the story? Come on man, you can do better than that.

we needed a remake in BW2 artstyle
that shit was gold

>>26368478
>but it has great unity
Whatever kiddo

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>>26368297
Sorry OP, for as good as they were, they are still flawed.

In fact, no Pokémon game is flaweless.

>>26368386
>>26368389
>>26368399
>>26368400
>>26368408
>>26368429
>>26368548
>le gen 5 was bad maymay xDDD

Heads up for any newfriends lurking.

True Pokémon fans acknowledge that Generation V is objectively the best generation.

Anyone else saying otherwise are amateur shitposters.

>>26368386
It's debatable with Sinnoh but fuck Hoenn worst region with worst remakes

BW has a very linear story though.

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Gen 5 was so good. Lets hope 7 can somewhat rival it.

>>26368465
>Less postgame or side game than DP
You are aware that this is objectively wrong right?

>>26369392
Whom are you quoting?

I swear I read this exact post in these words so many times. Am I talking to a bot?

>>26369951
Why is the region of Hoenn bad?

>>26369392
>No true Scotsman fallacy
Confirmed bait

>>26368609
Don't get me wrong. I loved BW1's story and main game. I just felt that BW2's story felt a little flat in comparison. BW2's post game was top notch, however.

Gen V makes my pucci stink so good, mmm yea

>>26368297
BW1 had a few hiccups, BW2 is the best in the series hands down, fuck HG/SS, it's second place..

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literally every person outside this board

>>26368465
>Less postgame or side game than DP
The last game I just finished was Diamond and I can confirm this is absolutely wrong, what are you talking about?
>start of the casualization people only seemed to notice with XY
As someone who just recently did a run through every single Gen in the franchise, this can't be any more wrong. BW had one of the best level curves and some of the most difficult NPCs in the franchise to date.

>>26372388
Listening to YouTube comments?

That's how I feel when people post gamefaqs polls.

If I'm being real here if we have customization in gen 7? Gen 6 will be the worst generation with nothing redeeming once the next games come out

>>26368561
Again with this meme? BW's story is no more forced or extensive than Hoenn or Sinnoh's. Seriously have you actually played BW or BW2?

>>26372388
>A YouTube comment
>Fifty upboats
Are you trying to convince me you're a faggot or something?

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>>26372388
>Taking youtube comments seriously

>>26372388
>Every other generation just feels like it gave more to the series than the previous generations before them. But gen 5... meh.
>Gen 5 has collectively he most Post Game of any Gen
>Gen 5 introduced the most new features of any Gen while also retaining the most features of any previous Gen
>Gen 5 introduced the most new Pokemon of any Gen

also
>Youtube
holy shit i am laughing

>>26372388
What's next, you're going to telly me steam reviews are worth looking at.

>>26372485
>>26372505
>>26372509
>>26372533
>>26372678
Okay faggots then what could be a reliable source for (you)?
/vp/ poll's? Fuck off.
Nobody likes this attempt of generation; it only exists because gamefreak needed easy money to pay the development of pokemon models.

>>26372914
>Okay faggots then what could be a reliable source for (you)?
Maybe actual reviews by actual fucking Game Magazines/critics? Famitsu gave BW1 a 40/40.

Nobody likes this attempt of generation
>Famitsu (40/40) (Only reviews that ACTUALLY matter in JRPG scene. And before you shill the "muh paid reviews" meme, keep in mind they gave worse reviews for X and Y)
>Game Informer (8.75/10)
>Videogamer (9/10)
>Nintendo Power (9/10)
>Edge (8/10)
>ONM (95%)
>IGN (9/10)
>HIGHEST Metacritic Aggregate score of ANY Pokemon game tied only with XY and RB

LMAO

>>26372914

>it only exists because gamefreak needed easy money to pay the development of pokemon models.
christ, nice delusion there buddy. Gen 5 was Game Freak's passion project, and they still fucking talk about it even after XY

>>26372533
Anon I'm pro Unova but what features did black and white introduce? Outside of repel and PWT? The musical shit?

>>26372914
Holy fuck you are dense (or I'm shit at b8) you probably think ORAS is top quality material. Gf has stated that Unova is their favorite region and they loved the characters so much that's why they made a sequel

>>26368297
Well, it was better than gen 4, anyway. But then every generation is.

>>26372961
Daily reminder Gen V remakes will have the best graphics out of every remake made so far.

>>26368386
Speaking without bias, Sinnoh is a disgusting region. It's. Just. Caves. There are some good spots, but going between them is a pain in the ass.

>>26373780
You're literally wrong. You can't speak without bias. It's literally impossible

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>>26370821
I don't necessarily think it's a /bad/ region, but I just legitimately didn't enjoy Hoenn. Right from the start I didn't have a good time. From the sprites to the mons to the artwork, I just could not get into it, and trust me, I've tried quite a few times. Oh and, I've only ever played RSE, not the remakes.

>>26372533
>Introduced and retained the most features
I'd like a list of those and comparisona, champ
People screaming about the most pgame are funny. Every Pokemon game has virtually endless postgame.

>>26373911
>From the sprites to the mons to the artwork,
That has nothing to do with the region.

>>26369951
I would object on hoeen being the worst region, but oras being the worst remake is 100% objective.

>>26374021
quality shitpost

>>26374057
?

>>26369392
I'll take fallacy for 200 Alex

>>26372914
Daily reminder that BW is actually the mad max 1 of pokémon, hated by plebians, de facto, the best.

>>26372509
>>26372485
>>26372505
>>26372678
>taking 4chan comments seriously
Two can play the game

Unova as a region was just okay.

However, the story, most of the characters, pokemon (save for a few ones), music and the BW2 postgame are top tier.

>>26374021
>That has nothing to do with the region.
Literally what. The Gen 3 Mons ? Not having to do with the region? Are, are you okay?

>>26374054
Yeah it's just that the remake ruined its attempts at being better

>>26374093
Is this damage control?

>>26373709
>Seasons, literally the biggest and most memorable feature in Gen 5
Do you not remember shit?

>>26374093
>Trying this hard
Pathetic

>>26368423
>The only problem with either are the deserts.
Hoenn's desert is loosely based on the Tottori Tottori sand dunes. Unova's in just an abandoned construction site with all the vegetation dozed over, a-la The Great Gadspy.

>>26368419
>N, no! You're not allowed to have opinions!

I think Unova was a good region but holy shit, fuck off dude.

>>26373709
>>26373931

>Seasons
>most new mons of any Gen, 156
>Regional Dex with most new mons
>most Gym Leaders of any Gen, 14
>92 new moves
>41 new abilities
>Triple + Rotation Battles
>Wonder Launcher
>Dark Grass
>Wild double battles
>Phenomena
>Weather + Time display in battle
>Fully animated battlesprites
>Fullbody backsprites
>Sprite movements change with stats
>Dynamic camera
>Multi track battle+overworld music
>95 TMs
>Infinite use TMs
>first gen that requires nearly zero HMs
>Trade from PCs
>Register Key Items
>60fps Battles
>new Rotom types
>no Poison damage out of battle
>battle Elite Four in any order
>Badges not necessary for HMs
>Progressive story over multiple games
>PWT
>Pokestar
>Fully animated Trainers
>Battle Subway
>Move held items between party
>Aspertia City, Flocessy Town, Floccessy Ranch, Cave of Being, Virbank City
>Virbank Complex, Castelia Sewers, Relic Passage, Clay Tunnel, Reversal Mountain
>Strange House, Lentimas Town, Seaside Cave, Humilau City, Plasma Frigate
>Multiple Victory Roads
>Nuvema (post game)
>Dreamyard (pg)
>Relic Castle (pg)
>Challenger's Cave (pg)
>Marvelous bridge (pg)
>Route 15 14 13 12 11 (pg)
>Black City (pg)
>White Forest (pg)
>Abundant Shrine (pg)
>Undella Town,Bay and Abyssal Ruins (pg)
>Lacunosa Town (pg)
>Giant Chasm (pg)
>Village Bridge (pg)
>Multiple Champions
>Entire Southeast region opens in post game
>Clay Road connects Driftveil to Twist Mountain (pg)
>Pokemon Swarms
>Gym Leaders have more active story scenes than Gen IV
>Alder in Floccessy Town (pg)
>Cresselia at Marvelous Bridge (pg), Heatran at Reeversal Mountain (pg), White Kyurem / Black Kyurem (pg)
>Azelf, Mesprit, Uxie (pg), Archen/Tirtouga (pg), Latios/Latias Dreamyard (pg), Regis (pg)
>Regigigas (pg)
>Shiny Gible/Dratini/Haxorus
>The most NPCs, 949
>Most settlements of any Region, 21
>more city gyms than sinnoh
>Unique music for all areas
>Gen 4 adds only 22 new features, Gen 3 only 19, Gen 6 only 23
>Gen 5 has a total of 41, THE MOST of any gen

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>>26374659
>gets this mad when gen 5 is proven to be one of the most critically well received gens

>>26374690
Now I think you're just shitposting. I said Unova is a good region, just behind Hoenn for me(inb4 Hoennbaby XDDD), tell me how I can be mad?

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>>26374734
>sees post regarding critical review scores of game
>said post not even directed towards him
>said post isn't even worded angrily/vulgarly
>decides to chime in with H-HOLY SHIT FUCK OFF YOU FUCKIN FAGGOT
>gets even more mad when is called out for being mad

>>26374669
People ignore all this features and claim gen 5 was shit because muh trash bag pokemon and muh derpy looking ice cream XDDDDDDD.

>>26374807
>implying
I'm not angry, despite what you think.
>decides to chime in
That's what discussions are for, unless there's an invisible notice telling me not to.

Also, I wasn't talking about the review scores, just your entire post like "people who hate Gen V are NEETs", as if your retarded mind can't comprehend someone's opinion, In fact, I'm happy about the review scores.

>>26374847

EBINK ECKS DEE XD

>>26374935
thats not my post dumbass

>>26375008
If true, then you've contradicted yourself.

>decided to chime in

You put that in a negative light, you know.

>>26374669
Now do another for XY

>>26375114
>Gen 6 only 23
>compared to Gen 5's 41
Do you want a less extensive list on purpose?

>>26375127
The point is to see if they do things like count "better story" and then count all the individual pieces of what made it a better story to bloat the list.

>>26374399
Isn't it a desert wasteland because the meteor fell on it.

>>26375140
Nothing in that list for Gen 5 is redundant or bloats the list, those are all either new features, or post game content.

>>26375321
Having each individual thing for post game content is bloating the list. Having each instance of charactera and events being better whilst citing "better story" as a seperate instance bloats the list. I'm not even sure what listing all the places was supposed to be. I want to see a list done for XY or really any other gen done with the exact same amount of fairness.

>>26374669
Holy shit.

>>26374669
>60fps Battles
>go to PMT
>triple battle
>lag and hot ds

>>26375531
>PMT
*PWT

>>26375531
>>lag and hot ds
Did you make your DS yourself or something?
Because that shouldn't happen.

I'd be worried if I were you.

>>26375531
>Shit that never happened: The post

>>26368297
Remove black and white then yes

>>26375376
>Having each individual thing for post game content is bloating the list.
Aww, upset much? That's not bloating the list, that's listing every single aspect of the post game, which is fair. Don't be mad that you have less post game content than Gen 5. What do you want me to do, just say "Gen 5 has a lot of post game"? No, I'm going to list out every single bit of it. That's not bloating shit, that's telling you what's there.

But here, since you want a full list of all the post game content in XY.

>Second starter from Shauna
>National dex
>Kiloude City
>Friend Safari
>Battle Maison
>Upgrade Mega Ring
>Pancham hat/Sundae Dress
>Poke Radar
>Looker mission
>One of three Legendary Birds
>Zygarde
>Mewtwo

Happy? Not much, huh?

>>26376052
Nah, for first games they were pretty great too.

>>26376052

What's up with this meme? BW aren't vastly inferior to BW2, honestly. All of the same features are retained between the games progressively, more so than any other Paired Game + Third Version. And besides, by themselves BW were very strong games.

Please tell me why you think BW are so bad compared to their sequels?

>>26376073
You forgot mega stone hunting.

>>26376133
You can start hunting for Mega Stones before the E4 IIRC, so I didn't include it as post game content.

>>26376224
They only show up after upgrading the ring unless you can do that before you finish the game?

>>26376094
It looks like shit and N ghosts you throughout the entire game.

>>26376312
>It looks like shit
>Implying 90% of BW2's graphics aren't reused assets
>N ghosts you throughout the entire game
>What is Team Rocket
>What is Team Plasma
>What is Team Maga/Aqua
>What is Team Galactic
>What is Team Flare
New to the concept of a Pokemon game?

>>26375618
>>26376035
for real
though it was dslite
it ran "smoothly" but I was sure it isn't 60fps because I can tell the pokemon animations slow down randomly esp. when battle animations

>>26368419

Then tell me please why Mystery Dungeon: Gates to Infinity had everywhere better scores than EoS?

>>26376329
Quit shilling for black and white. They were shit and you know it

>>26376730
You aren't exactly doing a good job of showing it.

>>26376073
But you included all the areas that opened up more in post game for BW but none for XY, like the new restaurant. And the only concern wasn't post game. Post game is not even that important as all Pokemon games have endless player driven post game. And I wanted a full list of all of CY's features like that BW one.
>UR a baby
Really anon?

>>26376730
>Gets utterly BTFO
>J-JUST STOP ALREADY ITS BAD

>>26374669
Pretty much 70% of this are garbage arguments.

Darker Grass? What's next? Oshawott also having white body parts?

>>26376758
>He doesn't know what Dark Grass is or the purpose it serves
Never played a Gen 5 game past the first Gym, right?

>>26376758
Darker Grass allowed for Wild double battles without an NPC character anon.

>>26376758

"This type of grass is exclusive to Generation V. In dark grass, not only are Pokémon found usually at much higher levels than those in regular grass, but there is a chance of encountering two wild Pokémon at a time, in a Double Battle. Pokémon encountered in dark grass are often similar to those found in normal grass areas of the route, but not identical (in particular, Pokémon encountered in dark grass may be slightly more difficult to catch). Often, Pokémon which are rare in normal grass are more common in dark grass.

Patches of dark grass are typically separated from patches of normal grass. Dark grass does not rustle. There is also long dark grass, which behaves like both types of grass simultaneously. "

At least know what you're talking about before trying to look capable of making a point, retard.

>>26376744
>>26376752
Theyre shit

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>>26376758

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>>26376758

I love when people who have never played Gen V hate on Gen V

>>26372946
you do know that these jew reviwers arent allowed to give it anything below an 8 right?

>>26373736
>remaking an abomination
wew

>>26373878
>so BTFO by objective facts presented to you all the time that you actually believe this

>>26376965
>durrrr look at my biased head canon guys! i have no source for my claims but i think the reviews are rigged because i say so! if i dont agree, its fucking wrong
This is what you sound like. Take your tinfoil hat off. Also, a good portion of Gen 3's reviews were 6s and 7s, you should know.

>>26376988
>Abomination
>only pokemon game with a perfect score
wew

>>26376988
But HG/SS already happened.

>>26376769
And he already stated wild double battles seperarely. So whats dies "darker grass" also bring on the table?

>>26377136
>implying Gold and Silver weren't good games made better in HGSS
Ruby and Sapphire on the other hand were already good and then turned into abominations.

>>26377171
>Higher levels
>Increased encounter rate of generally rarer Pokemon
>Long dark grass behaves like both forms of grass
>Shakes when a rare pokemon is hidden
Seriously, go play Gen 5.

>>26377199
>implying GSC weren't abominations made horrendous in HGSS
Daily events working in real time is more than enough to make the game shit.