You guys think the project will be done by sun and moon?

>>26353652
No

>>26353652
i hope.

>>26353666
HAIL SATAN WELCOME YEAR ZERO

I hope not, if we get a Frontier in SM I want a brand new one and not just the Hoenn or Sinnoh one recycled

>>26353652
>battle maison 3rd time in a row

you can save that post

>>26354222
Nah, we'll get the Battle Luau this time

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>>26354222
>it's a battle maison copy
>different name

>>26354322
Yes, like the Maison was the Subway was the Tower

>>26354236
>not Battle Cuckshed

It will be done and you will saw a photo of the place finished on a building of some architecture company.

>>26353652
that guy in kanto has been building for 4+ generations, what do you think

>>26353652
It better be.

I still can't believe they did this shit. What a low blow

Why do people want a fucking gen 3 battle facility when gen 6 did it better?

>>26354971
Did you never play Emerald or is this some bottom of the barrel bait?

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>>26354983
In Emerald they don't even fucking hold items. I can't take you seriously.

>>26354991
As if they can't add items. As if people even care about items.
People prefer Emeralds because of the variety of facilities and gimmicks. While the Maison is just the 3rd incarnation of the basic battle tower.

>>26355025
>as if people care
Not an argument. I asked you a fucking question. Gimmicks have been in every battle facility post gen 3. Why would you want to take three steps back?

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>>26353652
I fucking hope so, because then I can just import it over to OR/AS. Love that S/M run on the 6th gen engine, because it allows me to do that.

>>26355034
>the mechanic brought back would be shit because Im a retard who assumes it wont be improved on

>>26355085
>bring it back
>but change it
Make up your mind already

>>26355092
>>26355034
>>26354991
>>26354971
Holy fuck newfag. People like the battle frontier because it was unique at the time and the next gen had it slightly different, then Unova added something different but still unque PWT, all of those games had a battle tower though. You are settling for a postgame that started in Crystal. In HGSS's remake they included the battle tower in the same spot like Crystal did. Why wouldn't they have a the most unqiue original Postgame in the region it debuted in, then not be there or have anything else different.

>>26355092
>>26355034
>>26354991
>>26354971
Holy fuck newfag. People like the battle frontier because it was unique at the time and the next gen had it slightly different, then Unova added something different but still unque PWT, all of those games had a battle tower though. You are settling for a postgame that started in Crystal. In HGSS's remake they included the battle tower in the same spot like Crystal did. Why wouldn't they have a the most unqiue original Postgame in the region it debuted in, then not be there or have anything else different. Compared to XY

>>26357573
Huh. >>26357558

Don't know how that happened

>>26357558
>>26357573
Not him, but all I'm getting from that post is "w-well it was unique at the time!".

Why exactly are people sperging out over this anyway? Sounds like nostalgiafaggotry to me.

>>26357701
No I'm saying every generation has given us a unique postgame. Then XYORAS gives another Battl tower Clone that's been there since crystal faggot

I want to fight the kanto gym leaders again like in B/W

Maybe the johto ones too

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>>26353652
I just want my Battle Pyramid clusterfuck back. Along with Frontier Brains that can use Megas.

>>26357558
People didn't like Battle Subway. They instantly spout no post-game when talking about Unova.

The thing is I'm not a newfag so I won't take your post seriously

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>>26353652
No. It was a joke.

>>26358585
I dunno, I hear a lot of people (rightfully so) sing the praises of B2/W2's postgame

>>26354322
Idk why but I like this image a lot

>>26355034
>Gimmicks have been in every battle facility post gen 3

That's a lie and you know it, there were no gimmicks in DP, BW1, XY or ORAS.

>>26355055
I don't think it works like that. I've never seen anyone port following Pokémon to Platinum, or ORAS Megas to XY for that matter.

>>26358597
No. It was an insult. A massive "fuck you" to those who played Emerald.

>>26358597
>They do a Mega Timeline remake of FR/LG in ten years time
>In this timeline, the greater Silph-Devon conglomerate, with all of it's extra money from infinite energy based projects, funds the old mans building
>It's a cool battle facility
I'd forgive Game Freak for how shitty Kanto is if they did this

>>26358006
I'm surprised we haven't gotten an Emerald hack that does that, since we've had Megaevolution for like a year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vjpvid9iz94

>>26358708
This.

>>26358763
>>26358708
Nice persecution complex. Did GF also murder your dog and give your mom cancer?

We've had features removed, and been laughed at by GF for over a decade. Get used to it, or just kill yourself.

>>26358760
>It's the Battle Maison

Fixed.

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>>26358648
Triple battles, rotation battles, inverse battles etc aren't gimmicks?

>>26358667
You may not think so, but there is more difference between DPPt/BW than XY/ORAS and S/M.
Literally the only difference here is the overworld mini models are ditched over the larger battle models. Else, there is no difference between S/M and the rest of 6th gen.

>>26358609
They started adding items, ev training etc with BW2. It also had the shiny charm.
They genuinely started catering to tourney-fags only starting with BW2. But Battle Mansion was even better. People wanting back something that's worse is beyond me. I feel like it's a bunch of parroting.

>>26358814
>there is no difference between S/M and the rest of 6th gen.

You don't get to say 'the biggest changes are the minute ones', while also saying 'we haven't seen the small changes for SM so it offers no changes'.

>>26358807
>inverse battles

There are no inverse battle facilities in Gen 6.

>Triple battles, rotation battles

No, those are standard battle formats, just like double battles in Gen 3-5. If ORAS had the Frontier they'd be in whatever applicable facilities they could include them in.

>>26358814
We don't know that at all, we haven't gotten the game yet.

>>26358851
Why are they not classified as gimmicks?

It'll be done in time for the ORAS remakes

>>26358814
>there is more difference between DPPt/BW than XY/ORAS and S/M
>I can tell how different S/M is based on the two minutes of footage we've gotten
fuck off my nigger friend, the only similarities we can even draw is that the in-battle engine looks similar

>>26358862
Because they're standard battle formats.

They are formats present in normal gameplay, whether it be against in-game NPCs or multiplayer link battles.

Inverse battles aren't available in either of those, with the exception of one special NPC whose sole existence is to show you inverse battles as a feature similar to the Emerald battle tents, so I would count that as a gimmick, but triple and rotation battles are literally just standard battles, because the Maison is nothing but standard battles.

>>26358833
>>26358851
Of course for the time being is a thing.
However, we know it uses the same model format, so porting a Battle Frontier wouldn't be any problem. Parsing new CROs would be an interesting challenge, though.

>>26358886
>in-battle engine
>and you're saying it "looks familiar"
It's running on the same engine my boii

>>26358886
>>26358923
and that's not only the battles, by the way.

>>26358923
not really relevant, point is we haven't seen shit to actually compare the two games

>>26358942
See what I said in >>26358906

>>26358923
By your logic Gen 4 and 5 are the same engine, they just added sprite scaling and in-battle animations.

>>26358954
I'm no expert on the DS games, I'll admit. I know however that they do some things very very differently, from what I've heard.

>>26358954
They actually do share lots of the same code, hence why nearly every item from Gen 4 shows up in the code regardless of whether it's been used, not to mention features such as fog

Game Freak has historically /never/ made a new engine if they make a game that runs on the same console. Gen II isn't a new engine, it's a heavily butchered version of Gen I. Gen V isn't a new engine, it's a heavily butchered version of Gen IV. Likewise Gen VII surely isn't a new engine but a heavily butchered version of Gen VI, although anons like >>26358906 are getting a bit optimistic at just how much of the elements between the two will be compatible or easily portable

>>26359001
Right, what you said is reasonable, they probably did reuse large chunks of code here like in Gen 1 and 2. I was just speaking against anon's claim that they'd be the exact same engine.

I don't think game freak ever claimed that every new game would be a completely new engine. And why would you want that? Why fix something that isn't broken?

New generations give us new regions, new stories, new Pokemon. I would rather the devote their energy to world building than give us a reheated turd in a brand new engine

>>26355055
>>26358814
>>26358923
okay, go ahead and port littleroot town to XY then, dumbass

>>26359061
This guy gets it. Heck, the only genuinely good entries in the franchise
>Gold/Silver/Crystal
>Emerald
>Platinum/HG/SS
>BW/BW2
run on expanded, upgraded or tweaked versions of what came before. Game Freak historically deliver pretty shitty games every time they upgrade to a new engine, so the closer this is to the Gen 6 game code-wise the better as far as I'm concerned

>>26358906
>we know it uses the same model format
You fucking don't, even XY and ORAS have model formats different enough that they have to be parsed and rewritten differently
Just because you made your babby's first romhack using pk3ds and ohana doesn't mean you're automatically an expert on Gen 6's engine, stop spewing bullshit

>>26359001
>>>26358954
>a heavily butchered version of Gen VI
Right.
>although anons like (You) are getting a bit optimistic at just how much of the elements between the two will be compatible or easily portable
However, the model format hasn't changed and that was part of the topic. Yes, I'm that anon who knows the romfs like in and out, knowing shit in the code and that.

>>26359149
go away

>>26353652
What was the point of this?
To mock us? Where they planning on adding it as DLC? I don't understand.

>>26359211
I interpreted it as either the worst insult I've ever seen from them or a not so subtle message that they couldn't finish in the Frontier in time for release and had to move it to the next game.

>>26359211
It's a teaser for the ORAS remakes, they haven't announced when they're coming out though

>>26359104
There is a lot of work involved and my portable hard drive has crashed, so no chance of doing that now. That's not part of my project, anyway.
>>26359145
Yeah sure the BCHs are I believe compressed differently, can't remember exactly it's been like a month since I looked at shit, but that's really no problem. At least, it shouldn't be much.
>babby's first romhack
How many people have managed to edit map textures and cries? Anyway, it's not the only things I've been doing. What I haven't done with the hack itself, I have looked at and in detail.
>>26359195
Nah, why? I'm just happy S/M run on the 6th gen engine and just like this.

>>26353652
What were they thinking when they put this shit up?
>we're out of time, let's just put a small Battle Frontier cameo

>>26359310
They were just extremely lazy and re-used assets from X/Y's Mansion, all whole making a small fucking model of the Battle Tower. Like, yeah. It better be a fucking teaser for something great.

>>26359211
That is a R/S remake
>Scott started to find people for the BF
>Steven telling Wallace that he is not going to be the champion anymore

>>26359373
Stop this meme

>>26359373
So, what? We're expecting a Delta Emerald?

>>26359373
"They're Ruby and Sapphire remakes :^)" is, has always been, and always will be a shit excuse and will never be a good defense for ORAS' lack of Emerald content.

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>>26353652
Not at this rate. no.

>>26359446
Did the Red and Green remakes have Yellow's content?
Did the Gold and Silver remakes have any of Crystal's content (not counting series staples up to that point.)

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>>26359486
>Did the Red and Green remakes have Yellow's content?

No, because the only content added to Yellow that isn't graphical updates or bugfixes is anime references.

>Did the Gold and Silver remakes have any of Crystal's content (not counting series staples up to that point.)

Yes, literally everything except the Odd Egg, GS Ball, and sparse location changes like the Goldenrod Mart's rooftop square and a patch of grass on Route 6 with Growlithe in it.

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>>26359464
Fuck.
Now I realized it. CANNOT UNSEE.

>>26359548
>Kept Faithfully
These are all series staples.

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>>26359628
>Aesthetic changes
>night-exclusive trainers
>Ruins of Alph
>Buena's password
>Kurt's balls
>Suicune hunt
>Eusine
>Dragon Shrine event

>staples

>>26358900
What makes the no frontier even worse is that the new battle formats introduced after the last frontier could be used to great effect in a new type of frontier. While an ORAS frontier would probably be the old facilities with new formats, a completely new frontier could probably include those for new facilities.

Inverse, rotation and triple battles could be pretty fun for something like the battle roulette as well. Hell, you could probably put in sky battles somewhere, but that needs to be balanced properly as you're not necessarily carrying a flying type. Maybe some facility where you need to form a team with specific constraints?

All these options and GF decide to ignore the possibilities.

>>26359654
>Aesthetic changes
Not him, but that was fucking obvious from the get go.

>>26358900
>>They are formats present in normal gameplay
I feel like you're arguing semantics

>>26359721
The bullet was there to point out that they accurately kept the aesthetic changes, instead of changing them to a different look from Crystal. Ice Path in HGSS looks the same as in Crystal, for example.

>>26359748
So Ice Path was icy?
That seems like something they'd pretty much have to do anyway.

>>26359742
Well just compare something like the Factory or Pike or Pyramid to the Maison's formats. Fuck, the Factory itself already lets you choose between double and single battles, it would surely add triples and rotations to the mix.

The formats of the Maison are different seasonings to the same standard ruleset, they aren't comparable to different facilities like in Emerald or Platinum.

>>26359792
They're different, no one is arguing that.
But they're not better.

>>26359832
Yes they are, though.

The Maison is made 100% entirely obsolete by Battle Spot. Literally everything that can happen in the Maison can happen in the Battle Spot, it is the exact same ruleset 100%.

The facilities in the two Frontiers are all unique (except arguably the Dome from Gen V onward when its main feature, team preview, was added to online battles). They provide experiences you cannot get in any way with link battles. This is why people love them.

Having gigantic content variety is always better than "it's normal battles." ORAS only having the Maison is hugely regressive from Emerald.

anyone who was perfectly happy with battle frontier not being included definitely did not play blue or red or even yellow before gold and silver were out

and also probably has a vomit-inducing birth year like 1998

>>26359879
>The Maison is made 100% entirely obsolete by Battle Spot so it's worse
No?

>>26359879
>ORAS only having the Maison is hugely regressive from Emerald.
You mean BW only having the Subway.
Because that's where it started. Gen 5. Gen 6's Maison is a strict upgrade from gen 5's subway.

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>>26359907
Yes! Having just normal battles and NOTHING ELSE is worse than having a wide variety of unique battle types you cannot get elsewhere!

>>26359934
You're right that it started in Gen V (what does the Maison have that the Subway doesn't though?) but my beef is with ORAS, because remakes have always matched and then gone beyond the postgame of the originals. FRLG had Trainer Hill and HGSS had Pt's Frontier and Gym Leader rematches. ORAS has less content than Emerald postgame-wise which is why it's the bigger sinner than BW1 Unova or Kalos.

>>26353652
Wait for the next remake

>>26353652
>Have you heard? The Battle Frontier in Hoenn was recently finished. How I wish I was there right now!
I wouldn't be surprised at all.

>>26359975
>it is because I say so
I remember being 13. Truly the greatest time of my life. You should stop getting so bent on an image board and chase some skirts anon.

>>26358797
Not in the ramakes

>>26359987
What thought process can you go through to think having just normal battles and nothing else is better than having seven different facilities each with their own unique rulesets that cause you to change your approach on how to succeed in them? In what world are they equal to each other?

>>26360029
Chase saggy pants then? Whatever floats your boat anon.

Op here. I just wanted another pike and pyramid...maybe a dome since it was neatO bracket shit.....

>>26353652
about as likely as people are to be over the asshurt it caused.

>>26360057
If you can't answer the question I'm going to assume you're just a drone defending the Maison to protect daddy Game Freak's reputation. If you have any actual reason to think the Frontier isn't better than the Maison, state it already.

>>26353652

It'll be done in time for Delta Emerald on Nintendo's 10th generation handheld console.

>>26360085
That's quite the persecution complex you've got there. I didn't mean any insult by implying you were gay. I didn't mean anything by it really. Are you saying gays no longer find their breeding mates by sagging their pants in school?

>>26360235
Never fucking reply to me again unless you're contributing to the thread.

>>26360257
Whatever, once you've grown up you'll take my words to face value.

>>26358797
Let me teach you a lesson in how to argue without seeming like a massive bloody moron.
Never, ever, ever, ever, ever, EVER escalate your opposition's argument in any situation ever.
That's it.
This has been a free lesson in how to not be stupid.

>>26362006
Sorry Zordon, your bullshit rule of 'never escalate a battle' sounds nice on paper, but it's not entirely practical.

Also

>implying anger is stupidity, or is worse than stupidity

This has been a free lesson in how not to be swayed by optics.

>>26358797
>lmao dude get used to being treated like shit, it's normal

I don't understand why you people just accept garbage like this.

>>26358829
>But Battle Mansion was even better.

Is this fucking bait? This is the shitty version of the battle subway where you stay in the same room and other people walk up to you until

There is no difference between Maison and Subway or Tower

>>26359373
Yeah use that excuse, RS were shit games and that's why we got a shit remake

>>26353652
>Hoenn ramakes after 10+ years
>can't be bothered remaking the BF for them
>random game coming after and has it

i would still be mad

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>>26354236
> all leaders, rivals, elite 4, champions, and battle brains in a PWT-esque tournament
> all in beach gear

>>26359464
kek

>>26358609
That's B/W2 though, and not B/W

I think what most folks were salty about at the time was that D/P had a bigger postgame and it wasn't a remake or 3rd version.

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>>26353652
the worst part is that even if we do get it, it will be worse than the original. post gen 4 gamefreak is utter cancer. they can't get a single thing right.

old battle frontier was amazing because it was legitimately difficult, but it was also fun. it didn't feel in any way slapped onto there like the maison did in oras.

and it came out of nowhere too! there was only a few encounters with scott and you never knew when or how his story would bloom.

the hype once you got there tough made it feel like you were in a brand new world. each facility 10 times harder than any gym you'd have to face thus far.

with grand festival-like music and a huge area connecting so many unique and interesting easter eggs, it really felt like the final frontier for the most skilled trainers.

it's a shame we'll never have something so thematically solid in a pokemon game ever again. nothing but rushed, half-assed content that appeals to no one.

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>it's a people pretend the emerald frontier isn't the best post game in the series and that the maison or subway are better

>>26363721
Ehh. The gen 3 battle Frontier has too much RNG, I like the gen 4 one a bit better, although the battle pyramid and pike are awesome, the Battle Palace and Battle dome is just RNG. Gen 4 feels more skill based

>>26364038
Although the general area of it is 100x better but too much BP for rewards with like 1 BP for a successful clear. Then 48 BP for a tutor move

>>26362932
Can't wait to see Bruno in action