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ITS CONFIRMED SECOND TYPES OF STARTERS

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ITS CONFIRMED TYPES OF STARTERS ARE

FIRE/GROUND
WATER/FIGHTING
GRASS/FLYING
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>>26338990
OP HERE, I ALSO CAN CONFIRM I AM HOMOSEXUAL
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>>26338990
fuck off newfag
we knew already
stop screaming
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>>26339002
I don't get it. Those type images don't prove anything.
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Actually its
Grass/Ground
Fire
Water/Fighting
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>>26338990
you mean
grass/ground
fire
water/fighting
those are the confirmed types
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>>26339030
>>26339037
I mean this seems more likely based on the order the images were in but I literally don't see the point in making Rowlet part Flying if it just becomes part Ground later on. Especially since it's the first starter since Gen 1 to start off with two types.
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So all I'm hearing is that nobody knows what the word 'confirmed' fucking means is that right?
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>>26339097
Only reason I could think to do that is if it's final evo is one of those prehistoric owls with super long legs, and were flightless.

But hey, I won't complain either way. It'll have good type coverage if this is the case.
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>>26338990
When was this confirmed?
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>>26339104
It's 2016, using words correctly is outta style man
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>>26339037
>>26339030
Your precious cat won't become special fire frog like you want to. It'll become Fire/Ground slow bulky fatass with physical movepool. Deal with it fags. It doesn't have any sense to make Rowlet's final evo Grass/Ground.

>Littenfags tears are so delicious
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Question.
If Rowlet evolves into a Grass-Ground physical attack, what will distinguish it from Torterra in terms of playstyle?
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>>26339164
It'll stay Grass/Flying to the end. It's Litten final evo which is Fire/Ground.
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>>26339164
it will be quicker

a quick grass/ground starter would be p fkn neet desu

>>26339221
i disagree, i think rowlet will end up ground, something about the name 'rowlet' too
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No matter what Popplio ends up best starter. Rowlet is 4x weak to ice either way, and Litten has a chance to become 4x weak to water. Get fucked.
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>>26339240
Doesn't make any sense. Ground is like opposite to Flying. Ever heard about Pokemon changing type after evolving so drastically? Like from Psichic to Dark? Thought so.
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>>26339164
what distinguishes blaziken from infernape? not much really
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>>26339164
You seriously asking how a quick owl will play differently compared to a fucking tortoise?
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>>26339265
Surskit for starters
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>>26339261
If it becomes Water/Fighting it'll be GG. Ice Punch, Waterfall, Brick Break etc.
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>>26338990
>Gamefreak sucking the water starter's dick this hard two gens in a row
>Greninja snowflake ashnime bullshit
>Greninja protean
>Rowlet 4x weak to ice, which Popplio will have access to
>Litten 4x weak to water, which Popplio is

No fucking way. Suck a dick, OP.
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>>26339265
scyther

it will be based off a burrowing owl and be ground/grass. litten isnt fat enough to end up ground IN B4 HERR DERR X ISN'T FAT. i don't care i'm generalizing

deal with it
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>>26338990
>>26339002
>>26339014
>>26339030
>>26339037
>>26339097
>>26339152
What the fuck is any of the based off?
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Where is this shit even coming from?
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>>26339265
Kirlia to Gallade, loses Fairy for Fighting
Pupitar loses Ground for Dark
Scyther loses Flying for Steel, it happens.

Rowlet will have to keep Grass, I mean, that's an obvious one, but it could lose flying. As an owl? Probably not, but who knows.
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>>26339293
Remember they sucked greninja's dick because he was the most popular starter. So with that logic they'd suck Rowlet's dick.
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>>26339265
skrelp > dragalge
pupitar > tyranitar
shroomish > breloom
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>>26339332
Greninja was put into SSB before he was even announced, anon.
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>>26339327
Data mined from jap website.
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>>26339327
The jap pokemon site got data mined, the symbols that came up were grass, flying, ground, fire, water, fighting, and a stand in pick.

Now people are theorizing based on that.
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>>26339335

>Shroomish

Bad example my dude.
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>>26339373
poison and fighting are not similar types by any stretch of imagination. it resists poison and all of the types poison is good against (fairy, grass) fighting is shit against

try harder my dude
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>>26339373
>>26339390
fuck its pure grass

burn my body after you behead me, i was incorrect bc of poison heal ability
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>>26339347
>>26339359
Why isnt there screenshots or anything of this?
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>>26338990
>clown
>Fighting
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>>26338990
>Fire/Ground
Literally fucking disgusting. How gamefreak could fuck up Fire/Poison or Fire/Rock typing for Litten is beyond me. 10/10 mad as fuck.
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>>26339406
Links have been posted numerous times in numerous threads, I'm sure someone has them.
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>>26339345
And then he was pandered by giving 2 unique moves, an amazing ability, and basically a mega form. I can't imagine why it was so popular.
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>>26339401

Nah it's an understandable fuck up, just felt the need to point it out. Otherwise yeah, it's not unprecedented for pokemon to change their secondary type on evolution, just not terribly common, and I think it would be sort of disappointing for a lot of people.
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>>26339413
Fire/Ground isn't even a bad typing, it only has two weaknesses, a 4x weakness to water and a 2x weakness to ground. Both of which it already has. If they make it fast enough it could be an extremely good pokemon.
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>>26339406
I'll spoon feed ya, but you only needed to go to the archive an search for "datamine"
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>>26339444
What, is the archive up again? I remember it being down for a good while. Unless it's a different archive.
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>>26339152
If they are the starters' secondary types then Rowlet's evo will be Grass/Ground as that's the order its in. Sorry.
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>>26339455
I don't think that's able to be confirmed 100%, although it does seem most likely.
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>>26339444
What's Icon07 supposed to be? Just a placeholder?
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>>26339444
Thanks guy. I actually had seen that image around but ignored it.
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>>26339468
It's just proof that it ends at six and after that it 404s.
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>>26338990
Fire/Ground makes sense because Litten licks oils off of its fur. It could become the Fossil Fuel Pokemon.

Water/Fighting, while not technically impossible, seems weird since Popplio is a circus clown.

Grass/Flying makes way more sense than Grass/Ground. Despite there being only one Grass/Ground Pokemon, I don't think an owl is a good opportunity to make a faster Torterra. It doesn't make sense, and it has pretty much the same weaknesses of Grass/Flying, anyway.
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Anyway, if Flying is still in there and next to Grass, doesnt it stand to reason that Rowlet stays Grass/Flying, Litten gets Ground and Popplio gets Fightan?

Shame though. Fire/Dark seems more interesting and Fire/Rock would've been a cool addition to the Rock type if it was fast.

Fire/Rock always seemed like a longshot though. Then again, Flying/Fighting/Rock woul make for another triangle...
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>>26338990
>spookycat
>evolves into ground type
makes zero sense
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>>26338990
source?
No, I don't consider the datamine of a few unused images a source.
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>>26339526
>Shame though. Fire/Dark seems more interesting and Fire/Rock would've been a cool addition to the Rock type if it was fast.
You're missing the fact it's clearly gonna be special-based and there's still no good special Rock move.
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>>26339551
>implying they couldn't finally make one.
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>>26339551
Power Gem is fine and how do you even know its SpA based?
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>>26339551
>>26339559
>>26339568(You)
>Hidden Ability: Mineralite
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>>26339598
>only learns swift and hyper beam for special normal moves

at least it's guaranteed to learn Assist
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>>26339526
no,the icon for flying is there because rowlet uses it,then the evo for it comes after it which is why ground shows up next to flying,then the fire type litten is after that evo
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>>26338998
It was leaked a long time ago
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>>26339455
You mean Flying/Ground, right?
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>>26339568
Power Gem is only given to Pokémon possessing some kind of gem on their bodies and it's also quite bad considering it has a low BP and no secondary effect. Its whole quirk is igniting fur which is better represented as a special power rather than physical.
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>>26339630
I guess there'd be no other reason why the images to be out of order like that and Rowlett IS mostly brown... Kinda disappointing if this is real and shit.
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And no one is considering the possibility that the next Pokemon to be revealed will be a ground type and a fighting type? Or maybe even a ground/fighting type? Why do these have to have anything to do with the starters?
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>>26339661
No reason it couldnt ignite all the oilfur on its body and charge a fucker.
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>>26339630
Just imagine, you are a 10 year old kid. Playing pokemon, getting this owl because you like it. Give him wing attack, some flying type attacks, fly and you fight sky battles with him. Then it evolves into ground, no fly no sky battles...would you like it? Let me guess, no? That's right, it aint make any sense
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>>26339670
Maybe they are assuming the pages are set like they did X@Y, where the starters had a separate page for the starters and the other Pokemon.
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>>26339681
That's lame and unoriginal as fuck.
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>>26339696
Everything's been done. Tiger should be a strong, physical mon.
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>>26338990
>grass/ground
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>>26339682
It would be a grass/ground that still has fly and flying moves along with new cool ground moves,I'd love it
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>>26339668
Doubt it. They'd really give the Grass starter a secondary typing twice before before giving the fire type a secondary type?
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>>26339630
If they really wanted to turn Rowlet into a Grass/Ground type they would have not given it Flying in the first place.

>b-but muh wings
Spritzee both has wings AND flies.
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>>26339695
I just wish these newfriends wouldn't be so trigger happy with the word confirmed is all. It turns into this echo chamber of one idiot falling for some ruse or imagining some pattern that isn't there, which in turn gets eaten up by all of the other redditors and spread to every corner of the Internet like a disease
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>>26339744
Only time will tell. For now, there doesnt seem to be much of another reason for the images to be out of order. Then again, Ground owl seems pretty nonsensical too.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmBQdbUMwxg
good job fags
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>>26339773
TL;DR Newfags on this board are like cancer. Except contagious. And loud.
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>>26339768
There are quite a few pokemon who they've done that for already
Gamefreak is an enigma
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>>26339787
>yfw you're now imagining cancer being contagious
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>>26339670
Not only might they be related to new pokemon coming up
They could end up just being used for move listings as well.
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>>26339732
You could say the same about lions and Pyroar is special. Litten becoming a tiger is nowhere near confirmed, anyway. I don't know what it's going to be become and what its main attacking stat is going to be and neither does anyone else.
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>>26339444

Grass/ground - levitate HA
fire
water/fighting
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>>26339265
Nincada line in gen 3 are proof GF has no interest in "muh patterns" when it comes to typing. Anything is possible.

yfw Ground/Grass is the new Greninja/Hawlucha/Delphox leak
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>>26339853
>levitate HA
Groundfags are truly getting delusional.
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>>26338990
>FIRE/GROUND
You mean Fire/Fighting.
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>>26339444

Wait, couldn't these types be for new Pokémon who haven't been introduced yet? Why is everyone automatically assuming they have to do with the starters? Am I missing something?
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>>26339850
That horizontal stripe thing on Litten's forehead is a thing that features in a lot of anime tiger designs as well as a thing actual tigers have. Ofcourse it isnt actually confirmed but I'd say its a given. Especially because muh chinese zodiac

And if it is, it should be a stronk physical.
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>>26340058
It's also on a number of striped anime cats such as a tabby which is what Litten is based on going by the name.
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>>26339899
yes, you are missing the fact that you are breaindead
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>>26340070
>tabby
Can you show me what you're talking about here?
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>>26340089
Find a lazily animated striped cat and it has a pretty good chance to have that exact marking. Same reason it's on tigers.
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>>26340089
It's a kind of cat coat patterns.
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>>26340165
To make it kinda look like a tiger?
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>>26339437
Wait a mother fucking second

This mother fucker has a fucking point

Ill take a 4x weakness any day of the week if its literally half my weaknesses
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>>26340203
One that happens to have almost none of the horizontal lines Litten has.
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I JUST RELIAZED

Litten has the alchemic symbol for sulfur. Thats why it's a ground type
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>>26339415
You're literally proving my point you stupid cunt. People don't actually like grenshit. It was forced, like Zoroark and Lucario. So why would they suck the water starter's dick that hard 2 gens in a row?
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>>26340272
They all seem to have an M-like pattern instead, what could it possibly mean?
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>>26338990
>Fire/Ground
It makes sense from the oil-rich fur.

>Grass/Ground
I can see how an owl may lose its flying type (burrowing owl) and it seems logical from the type URL number....


I feel lost, I don't know what to think.
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>>26339444
So this is what we call datamine? We're really reaching with the secondary types if this is the only thing backing that claim.
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>>26340332
This. Also its a volcanic region so a Fire/Ground starter would be fitting.
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>>26340368
it means they're set to mini instead of wumbo
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>>26338990
Wouldn't fire/rock make much more sense for the triangle? Rock beats flying, but flying isn't effected by ground. That is if they're aiming for a triangle
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>>26339455
>even though it starts with flying type
>even though flying still comes first in order making the first two grass and flying

additionally, what's the flying icon there for then?
please stop projecting your fantasies as reality.
I know it's hard to live with autism, and your insecurities force you to seek affirmation and approval of your opinions or ideas, but really just take a step back and stop being influenced by your stupid biased opinion.
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>>26339332
They pandered to Froakie before XY was even announced. The most popular starter was Fennekin at the first announcement, then with each sequential news release...
>**
>Fennekin was shown using the move "Glow Punch", later named Power-up punch, which made people flip their shit and prepare for that sweet sweet Fighting type
>then Braixen was a thing, causing people not only to believe further in the Fighting type agenda, but also become divided on the clearly feminine, but mostly masculine design
>Froakie got a solid evo however that didn't deviate from most's expectations
>Gameplay leaks, and Greninja's immediate reaction is negative, but as the games get officially released, it's clear that Greninja has TWO signature moves, while even Delphox's model is poorly executed on the 3ds platform
>Ash chooses Froakie, which would eventually evole into an even further super powered Greninja
>both Delphox's Mystical Fire and Chesnaught's Spiky Shield lost their signature moves status in the very next game, but Greninja keeps Mat Block all to itself

**Greninja was slotted for Smash before any of this occurred

All of these decisions except with the ORAS movepool changes were likely made without any fan's consent way before they ever knew it even existed. It wasn't the most popular starter until the company forced it that way.
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>>26340332
The only types associated with sulphur are Fire and possibly Dark/Ghost since it's commonly linked with the netherworld.

>inb4 Poison
Sulphur is not poisonous, it's even contained in certain foods like eggs.
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>>26339444

So where are the starters mentioned in that?
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>>26340466
The flying icon is there because it is in use you absolute moron. These icon names are in order of use and surprise, they were found because they are in use for the starters.

You're acting like a pokemon has never changed its second type when it evolves. Many have.

I'm sure you're just another troll, but the order of the icons is not random
the order is Grass Flying GROUND
Fire
Water FIGHTING

If Litten's evos were going to be Fire/Ground, the Ground icon would be between Fire and Water, not before Fire.

I'm sorry you lack the basic logic skills to understand sequences.
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>>26340466
>even though it starts with flying type
'mons that lose types are not new
>even though flying still comes first in order making the first two grass and flying
It's basically for the exact same reason some people are saying the ground type would be applied to the grass starter.
>additionally, what's the flying icon there for then?
Simply for Rowlet's description page (and maybe as well its second stage evolution).

It's sill assumptions, but you don't bring very strong points here mate.
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>>26340466
Probable shit posting, but whose fantasy is it for something to go from grass/flying to grass/ground?
Its a pretty logical conclusion based on the ordering of the images Sure, it can just as easily just be nothing, and we get a fire/ground tiger instead. But there's no reason to tear the guys head for suggesting otherwise.
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where is it confirmed? Source please, and no don't post that stupid leaked icons from japanesse website.
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>>26340549
That's all we have at the moment fammo.
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>>26340593
So its not confirmed like that moron OP is saying.
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>>26340601
It's a meme you dip.
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>>26340635
You're a meme yourself
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Nothing is confirmed. It's just speculation based off of a data mining a website. Though it could have just been left over test data, or for some other mons they wer going to show off, but opted not to.
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Maybe Grass/Fighting (because of those "powerful kicks"), Fire/Dark, and Water/Psychic?
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>>26340649
Die a trole, or shitpost long enough to see yourself become a meme.
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>>26340165
Most anime and cartoon tabbies have vertical stripes, not horizontal. Only reason orange tabbies rarely have it is to make them look like tigers.
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They wouldn't change the secondary typing of a starter. Little kids would get confused. I can't wait to laugh when you all are proven wrong. Praise kek
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>>26340528
And this logic you keep rambling about is based on what exactly? It's not that something like this already happened in the past so that you can base your thinking on it. The fire starter may end up Fire/Fighting for all I know. The ordering may not mean anything.
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>>26340698
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>>26340528
>>26340537
>>26340546
it's literally mental gymnastics to assume that they would include flying and ground in the order
For being so obsessed with patterns (typical of autism spectrum), you seem to need to bend the rules to apply to your idea

if it was showing the typing for the evolutions they wouldn't include flying because it wouldn't be flying (assuming it's switching to ground)

Secondly, there wouldn't really be a point in introducing a starter with a second type for it's starting stage when it just changes right away at level 16. Flying isn't really a necessary typing for a small owl that is mostly stationary anyways. Why introduce it to immediately get rid of it? How many flying moves would it learn before level 16 anyways?

There are 3 pokemon and 6 types, do you honestly not think it's more likely that it's 2 for each? The order fills two spots for the grass one before making it to ground.

Do you really think it's going to have a page that's going to show the first forums and the evolutions with both of their typings? "GRASS/GROUND TYPE LOOK IT USED TO BE GRASS/FLYING!" all with the type icons

also BRIMSTONE/SULFUR is a mineral, you know? Like it comes from the earth. Not like those spikes that stick up on the cats back look like anything ground related on top of that!
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>>26338990
>yfw Littens and Popplios final forms are Fire/Fighting and Water/Ground because Sun and Moon are actually Hoennbaby pandering: the game
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>>26340826
Grass/Ground fag is literally the new Roothootfag, theres no point in arguing with him. >m-muh order muthufucka is literally his only argument.
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>>26340826
additionally the info entries are
"Rowlet can attack without making a sound! It flies silently through the skies"

ALSO

"Litten can attack with flaming hairballs! Its fur is rich in oils and immensely flammable."

Wowee, where does oil come from again?

Putting emphasis on FLYING for the owl that's flying type? weird!
Mentioning and referencing minerals with the cat also doesn't help your case.
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>>26340942
>muh order
>pokemon are two types
>grass and flying fill the two spots for typings
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>>26340826
I hope you're right, angry anon-kun.
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>>26339030
>grass/flying becomes grass/ground
>a starter loses its initial secondary typing only to gain a different one

Here's your (you)
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>>26341038
LEVITATE
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Also,
How fucking likely is it that a BIRD who FLIES and is ALREADY flying type is going to not be flying type at all when it evolves and switch the the complete opposite?

That's such an illogical type switch.

I'm sorry for freaking out, I've just been getting pissed off with this and Roothoot bullshit for a while and it's built up. When something is completely illogical but people still argue for it and claim that it's what actually is logical it really pisses me off. It's clearly bias influenced and it's immature as fuck.
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>>26339868
why wouldn't it get levitate?
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>>26340826
>if it was showing the typing for the evolutions they wouldn't include flying because it wouldn't be flying (assuming it's switching to ground)
first of all it's showing the types for each starter and their evolutions and second of all flying could still be the middle evolution's type and then change on the third. before anyone cries about that remember both Torterra and Empoleon gained their type on the final evolution

>>26341120
it doesn't even need that as they're are plenty of pokemon that fly without flying type or levitate
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Plot twist: the final Rowlet stage is the first pokemon to have three types.
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>>26341162
>as they're are plenty of pokemon that fly without flying type or levitate
Which ones?
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>>26341177
Golurk and Volcarona off the top
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>>26341156
"my ground/grass/flying owl's gimmick only makes sense when it has it's hidden ability"
"levitating ground bird (but only with hidden ability!) who was already previously flying makes much more sense than just staying flying!
"MUH ORDER still fills two spots for it's typing before making it to ground type but still!"
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>>26341162
Also we should not be ruling out split-evolutions

>>26341185
>makes much more sense than just staying flying!
It's not about what makes sense based on your patterns, but what we can deduct from the info we've got.
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>>26341162
wow that sure is a crazy specific situation for it to need to meet for your idea to be right

seems much more likely despite all of the rational counter-points i've made

literally stop posting

grass/ground owl would be cool but it's not happening
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>>26341177
Altaria-Mega, Arceus, Charizard-Mega-X, Genesect, Giratina, Golurk, Kyurem, Mew, Pikachu, Raichu, Reshiram, Smeargle, Volcarona, Zekrom
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>>26341202
it's not patterns
it's called having a fucking brain
I've presented lots of actual ideas/ information that contradicts your opinion which is purely based on a pattern that doesn't even work unless in this stupidly specific instance (which is based on nothing and highly illogical) that you've made up
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>>26341239
>it makes much more sense
You're basing this off of patterns. Instead of the info we've gotten.

The fact that you're denying this is pathetic. Grow the fuck up.
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>>26340468
>>26339293
>>26339345
>>26339415
>>26340361

Except anyone with a brain could already tell that Greninja was going to be the most popular even before his design was ever shown to the public.

Here's a question: which of these 3 options do you think young kids would like the most?

>a fat hedgehog
>girly furbait
>a fucking ninja

There's a reason why Greninja was chosen to be marketed so heavily and not any of the other starters. It's no different than Charizard. He wasn't chosen to be on the box art of Red arbitrarily. Charizard is a fucking dragon, and Gamefreak knew most people would be more attracted to that design than a turtle or a warty toad. It's not because Masuda has a personal hard on for Greninja.

It's not the same situation as something like Lucario or Zoroark. They were both forced heavily, and while their designs are both somewhat popular, they were never going to catch on as much as Charizard or Greninja. There's a reason Greninja is winning that Japanese popularity poll and it's not because Gamefreak is rigging the results.
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>>26341259
Please stop talking. Venusaur and Blastoise got their time on covers.
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>>26341253
you have no fucking info you dumbass

it has nothing to do with patterns, it's thinking rationally
your argument is literally based on a sequence that doesn't make sense outside of your illogical situation

the pokemon information page and their current typings contradict you even
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>fags STILL denying it will be Flying/Ground

Holy shit you literally can't be more delusional, don't you know how important the ORDER is? Stay mad Grass/anything fags.
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Or the tying's could belong to unannounced Pokémon TPC hasn't revealed yet.
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>>26341271
Sure, but they got one game each. Charizard was on both the original Red/Green and the re-released and international released Red/Blue. Why do you think it was Red/Green originally and not Blue/Green? Or why the rer-elease was Red/Blue and not Green/Blue?
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>Water/Fighting seal
might go for it desu
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6.5 fags and roothootards get btfo on the same day. I guess this grass/ground is your new form of shit posting.

Fuck leak season. This board is inundated with retards pre new game releases.
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Well at least I can premake tons of shitposts about how Ground/Grass got BTFO'd when owl is confirmed Flying/Grass
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>>26340826
You seem really angry over nothing man.

1. It's stuff that as datamined from the site, so of coarse the images actively being used would be included.
2. I agree it would be odd to change typings, but it being odd doesn't immediately discount something. Just makes it odd.
3. I'm not denying the plausibility of it remaining grass/flying, and the tiger being fire/ground. Like wise it seems plausible for GF to be weird an make a grass/flying owl grass/ground for it's final evo, and the order they put the icons supports this as well.

But again, this is just theory crafting. Nothings "confirmed" and nothings guaranteed.

No reason got go 100% mad over this tho, that's true autism if I ever saw it. Like legit go out for a walk or something if your getting this salty over something so minor.
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>>26341320
>The order they put the icons supports grass/ground
I can't stop laugh
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>>26341298
>balances on its hind legs for punching attacks
>base form is acrobatic
>can jump high in the air for Hi Jump Kicks

I believe in Gamefreak
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>>26341290
That's kinda backpedaling. It was initially Red and Green, while your argument was that they knew what they were going to push in the first place. And putting down Venusaur when it premiered alongside Charizard as a cover mon adds further to that.

Popular reception of Charizard would have come from the fans, with the anime having come before Red and Blue.
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>>26340079
>breaindead
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>>26341330
They tend to number icons in order of use. Thats why it's Grass is the first icon, as rowlett comes first.

Simple as that man. Sure that doesn't guarantee it'll become Grass/Ground, but it adds plausibility at the minimum.
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baka desu senpai

LFDJSJSJ
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Im gonna laugh when the supposed "data mine" is complete bullshit.

You guys are fucking dumb. I bet you believe clickbait shit like Inquisitr as well.
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Who cares? Pokemon sucks. A horrible franchise that's been ripping off SMT for god knows how long.
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>>26341420
GTFO
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Did you guys know that burrowing owls exist
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>>26341429
Truth hurts doesn't it?
Have fun playing the gayest JRPG in existence.

Holocaust2016 for Pokemon fans.
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>>26341418
>I bet you believe clickbait shit like Inquisitr as well.

At least we know you're dumb, if you're seriously dropping the importance of the find to tabloid speculation level. The info was hidden on an official site, you idiot. It wouldn't be the first time they had an oversight. I bet you weren't even here when Shoko accidentally revealed Zekrom's typing. Laugh at yourself in the mirror until you cry.
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>>26341320

I'm not mad over the idea. I'd actually prefer grass/ground.

It's just people constantly having stupid mind/logic bending arguments and writing shit like "CONFIRMED" all day every day on vp. Like actually blindly not considering anything anyone who opposes them say even when it's more rational than what they are forcing.

You're like the only person who has posted about it reasonably.
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>>26341440
So don't Snowy Owls but no one is advocating for Grass/Ice?
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>>26341420
>>26341429
>>26341457
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>>26340332
It literally doesn't
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>>26341476
I think it's probably grass/flying but lots of idiots in this thread are saying that ground doesn't make any sense and talking about prehistoric owls, which is stupid when we have perfectly fine modern owls that fit the ground theme.
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>>26341486
hey thats my gender
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>>26341476
Because we found nothing suggesting Ice type yet?
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>>26339030
Confirmed
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>>26341418
the data mine is very much real
However, we can't actually say for sure if the types are 100% representing the evolutions
They might, they might not, if its on the site already we'll probably be finding out within a month anyways.
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>>26341486
The eyes are the circles
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When will Pokefail remove HMs, get better graphics, have a good storyline, get rid of linear character movement, better characters etc?

Also when will Pokemon stop stealing ideas from Digimon?
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>>26341420
>>26341540
>not liking pokemon
>on a pokemon board
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>>26341564
Pocket Mortys > Pokemon
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>>26341457
Why are you here faggot?
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>>26341528
exactly, thats what i was trying to say

>>26341463
underrage try hard nigger detected. Go suck on moms teet or suck diarrhea out of a homeless mans ass after fapping to furry porn you jew enabling degenerate cucklord

consider yourself owned faggot bitch ;)
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>>26341466
One of the reasons I only pop in here like once a week, too many repetitive threads to do otherwise.

Personally, I feel it becoming Grass/Ground seems the most plausible based on what we have. But I won't sit here and claim it's the only possibility.

On a side note, I have a hypothetical. If it goes grass/flying, grass/flying, grass/ground; would it be able to learn Fly?

>>26341564
>doesn't realize its a shitposter
>engaging the shitposter
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>>26340332
>RELIAZED
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>>26341607
Free will. Free speech.

lol still liking rasslin'. How fucking sad.
You do know it's fake right?

Dwayne can't fight irl.
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>>26341626
Holy shit and I'm underaged? You don't even have an argument to accompany your trash talk, that's the sad part.
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>>26341696
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>>26341699
why are you still replying to me when you got intellectually checkmated faggot smelly boy? This is like beating an armless cat with a tire iron. God DAMN I feel like Donald Trump vs Jeb Bush in a debate. Youre too easy bitch, drink windex
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>>26341739
I see you're trying to disperse the tension of losing an argument with wacky antics but it's kinda sad that a lot of people on /vp/ are like you. Talk shit and when you're out of logic, you still post anyway to try and get the last word in. Alright I'm done talking to you unless you want to incorporate reason.
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>>26341739
>>26341699
>>26341626
>>26341463
>>26341418

Unconvinced this isn't the same anon
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>>26341647
How is Grass/Ground more plausible than Grass/Flying? If anything the null hpothesis is that all three forms will be Grass/Flying, any other hypothesis is an alternative that needs significantly more evidence.
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>>26341538
you mean apart from the fact they're not circular?
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>>26341777
Haha. looks like I win again. Stay rekt buttbaby niggercuck
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>>26341277
>you have no fucking info
Except we do. The fact that you are denying this is pathetic. Grow the fuck up
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https://youtu.be/ivaRqb0oEsE ur welcome
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>>26339137
Im hoping that in keeping with the trend of prehistoric animals that Rowlet eventually evolves into a Terror Bird, which would make the grass/ground sensical.
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>>26341784
ground before fire in the icon numbers points to rowlet becoming part ground as rowlet and the evos are naturally going to be listed in a row before Litten on the site
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>>26341885
Thats implying the order matters whatsoever? Which is hardly enough to make grass/ground a stronger logical alternative to grass/flying.
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>>26339437
This nigga right here knows EXACTLY what's up

Litten will be unstoppable to everything except water and fags with Earthquake if he was decent and with this typing. I honestly hope this is the case.
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>>26341940
>Earthquaking balloon
lol,,,,
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>>26341926
Why would you not imply order matters?

They kept it Grass before Fire and Fire before Water. They put Flying, Rowlet's secondary typing, right after Grass but before Fire.

Ground would follow suit.

If you map it out,
Grass/Flying
Grass/(Flying\Ground)
Grass/Ground
Fire
Fire
Fire
Water
Water(\Fighting)
Water/Fighting

Count where each typing makes its first appearance and then order them.
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>>26341784
Its true that the only evidence supporting it is the ordering of the type images. However, having a properly ordered embed list is pretty important with making a site.

So having the secondary typing intended for the fire type come before it is very unusual.

So this leaves us with 2 scenarios.

1. The designer of this site messed up the ordering when linking images to the site, and wasn't super fused over it.

or

2. Gamefreak designed a Grass/Flying owl to be a Grass/Ground owl in it's final form.

Personally, while both are plausible I give more credence to intentional design over an accident. But that's just my personal opinion. I won't sit here an say the other option is impossible.

Also; this is just what I like about the idea, an not so much adding to its plausibility; A grass Pokemon having access to Flying an Ground moves peaks my interest quite a bit.
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>>26341967
Yeah but kitten is just Ground/Fire?????
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>>26341991
Why would the secondary typing come before the primary typing?
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>>26341991
Order matters with typing too. Even though mechanically there is no difference, the order is still maintained where it matters, e.g. a starter's first typing is always a starter typing.

A Flying Pokemon's Flying typing comes second because it's not the main attribute of the Pokemon, except for Noivern where Dragon is instead the supplement to the bat (flying) appearance.
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>>26341967
>>26341972
I think you're both missing the point. Based off the 'leak' Grass/Ground can be considered a strong alternative possibility to Grass/Flying. But its hardly enough evidence to displace the null hypothesis (Grass/Flying). Thus Grass/Flying is still the most likely scenario for a Rowlet evolution. Any alternative is speculation until new evidence surfaces or an official announcement is made. That is how parsimony works.
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>>26338990
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmBQdbUMwxg
yeah bc japan would let future Pokemon news leak THIS easy
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>>26341793
>being this autistic
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Damn my thread got this many replies
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>>26339164

It'll literally be Torterra with a built in Rock Polish and somehow have a worse typing than Grass/Flying. No more Water or Fighting resistance, still 4x weak to Ice and 2x weak to Fire, I guess maybe resisting Rock and taking neutral from Poison is slightly better but all around I'd say it's an even worse Typing than Grass/Flying.

Also I don't believe these "leaks" for a second. I'm about 90% confident Rowlet will stay Grass/Flying, 75% confident Litten will be Fire/Dark but physical based to differentiate it from Houndoom, and Popplio can go many different ways but I'm leaning toward Water with either Fairy/Psychic/Ice.
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>>26342223
>it has black fur so it must be Dark type

Not a grass/ground fag but thats just retarded.
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>>26342081
Now we have a matter of debate over what's strong enough evidence to displace the null hypothesis.
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All three starters become Fire/Fighting.
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>>26342081
>But its hardly enough evidence
>until new evidence surfaces

I think that is the point of interest where we (I at least) differ. This finding is substantial for the fact that it exists. They could have left it Grass-Fire-Water since there was no need to put in starters' evolutions into the mix. And it's highly unlikely that the Ground and Fighting typings belong to an extraneous set of Pokemon based on the ordering of the icons.

I don't think anyone but shitposters and those trying to rile people up are saying anything is confirmed, but if you would accept that Litten and Popplio don't have null hypotheses reserved as pure Fire and pure Water, then the possibility of Rowlet's final outcome being variable is sensible. That is to say, we don't have a precedent of starters having to be confined to their first stage typing, so abiding by Grass/Flying as a null hypothesis is shaky and unreliable. Accepting new findings from official sources is a stronger bet.

On the one hand, we could have an Ice Punch Blaziken 2.0, but on the other, we could have trademark leak-backed conclusions or incidents similar to when Shoko-tan goofed and spoiled Zekrom's typing.
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>>26342223
C'mon man, it's data-mining. It's really hard to fake that shit.
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>>26339444
>more like
>Litten Fire/Fighting
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>>26339437

Are you nuts? Every heard of Lando-T? TankChomp? Hippowdon? Donphan? Sand Rush Excadrill? Rotom-W?

The only way Fire/Ground is ever a good typing is if it has passable speed and Mold Breaker. Look at M-Camerupt. One of the hardest hitters in the game, and it's still shit. And it's even special based which gives it an easier time against the bulky and/or Rocky Helmet Ground types. Litten imo looks like it will probably be physical based.

Fire/Dark or nothing.
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>>26339782
good job at not telling us what the video is about
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>>26342223
Personally, I'm still a fan of the Fire/Poison theories.
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Grass ground
Fire poison
Water fairy
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>>26342296
Continuing on, I kinda just had a revelation. Rowlett is a Potato Owl with Root+Owlett combination.

Now, this is far weaker than the ordering I will fully admit.
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>>26341865
hey, want to give me somewhere i can contact you to personally laugh at you when you're wrong?

I'm completely serious
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>>26342296
>>26342324
The problem is the 'evidence' you're referring to (the order of the icons) is entirely subjective. It may be enough for a few individuals to agree with you but don't expect the majority to accept your point of view without a significant amount of direct evidence.
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>>26341457
>goes on a pokemon board to say pokemon is shit

What issues did you have with your parents?
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Grass/Ground
Fire/Fighting
Water/Flying
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>>26340698
I want to enter a sexual relationship with that feline
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>>26342484
>this whole conversation
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>>26342484
Oh, I'm not setting out to convince people it'll be 100% legit. All I'm saying is I believe it to be plausible.

No point in worrying if people believe the theory or not, just a dumb theory that'll get disproved/proven by the time the games come out.
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>>26342484
>The problem is the 'evidence' you're referring to (the order of the icons) is entirely subjective. It may be enough for a few individuals to agree with you but don't expect the majority to accept your point of view without a significant amount of direct evidence.

I don't understand this argument. Since when was it about people having to back me up as opposed to just restating what's parsed from the datamine? I disagree that it's subjective at all unless you want to talk about the subjectivity of whether or not Ground being put before Fire was purely a mistake.

I don't see what's so hard to understand about the information we received from the datamine. The reason order matters is because there's semblance of an order in the first place.
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>>26340537

>Mons that lose types are not new
Starters that have a secondary typing in their first stage are incredibly rare, and the one example we have of it occurring in Bulbasaur, it keeps the Poison typing from first stage all the way to Mega form.
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>>26342647
The initial post I was replying to stated "grass/ground" to be the most likely typing, hence my reply. Please learn to follow the reply chain next time so you aren't confused.
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>>26342439
>still ignoring the issue
Sad.
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>>26342703
What most people perceive to be the likely outcome and what actually is the most likely outcome based on available information are not the same. That's why I don't understand your argument, since it seems like you're implying they are.
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>>26342647
>>26342703
I think you guys are having the most put-together argument /vp/ has seen in years. Congratulations to that.

I think what can also be injected into this conversation is the possibility on the concept sources for the starter pokemon. People are also giving some feasibility to grass/ground because the very concept of a burrowing owl and the artwork of Rowlet suggests that a grass/ground typing is possible in the future.

Furthermore, despite the flying typing, Rowlet's dex entry specifically mentions a propensity for kicking, which might suggest a more land-based future for the design. There are very few bird species out there known for kicking, and even fewer that have the ability to fly. If one is to look at future evolutions for Rowlet, the design will have to grow to be more than just my mothers orb owl. There exists evidence and plausibility for both Grass/Flying and Grass/Ground AND for Fire and Fire/Ground.

I think we can all agree on that much?
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>>26342804
My opinions are merely based off the concept of parsimony. If you use a different basis for how you evaluate the likelihood of possible outcomes then its unlikely we'd ever come to a resolution besides 'agreeing to disagree'.
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>>26342819
>I don't get congratulations.

But yeah, I agree on the plausibility of any of these possibilities. I'm still in favor of Grass/Ground owl final evo tho.

What I'm curious about now tho is, will the seal become a bulky tank Sea Lion, or will it become lanky as all hell, like actual clowns?
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>>26342937
I personally think that the seal can either become a lanky or strongman sea lion, or it might go the route of Pagliacci and become an elephant seal.
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>>26342819
Of course. I particularly like how they specified it's good at kicking/the land-based direction since prehistoric owls had well-developed long legs and it would be in keeping with the idea that the Grass starters follow a prehistoric pattern.

>>26342853
Parsimony seems to not want any type of discussion on the Fire and Water starters, since there's no set basis like there is already for both typing slots being full for the owl.

My basis is using what we have and everything we get to adapt the conclusions each time. I would originally say they'd end up Grass/Flying, Fire/Dark or Fire/Poison, and Water/Fairy or pure Water. If we saw the second stages and they took another direction, I'd move onto that. Since we saw the datamine, I've moved to that.
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>>26342327

It doesn't necessarily apply to the starters though. I think one or two anons mentioned that maybe they were going to release one or two other new Pokemon but abandoned the idea.
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>>26342969

>I would originally say they'd end up Grass/Flying, Fire/Dark or Fire/Poison, and Water/Fairy or pure Water.

This. There's something too intentionally spooky about Litten, especially considering it's a baby stage which are typically always cute, for it not to have something like a Dark Ghost or Poison secondary typing.

Remember how everyone noticed that its coloration is a lot different than every other first stage Fire starter? Thats because it's black more than the typical Fire shades like red, orange, and yellow. Black cats are common themes in occult and superstitious traditions.

It's either gonna be one of those mons like Ninetales where it has a movepool or design suggesting secondary typings (in Ninetales' case, its abundance of Ghost moves), or it will actually get the secondary typing its design and movepool suggest.
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>>26343092
I hate that everyone suggests Fire/Dark because of it's coloration. Anytime any pokemon has a darker coloration the automatic push is for it to have dark typing. People bemoan Luxray not having Dark typing despite it gaining nothing from it. Thematically, it's black because it's covered in oil. That's the gist of it. It's not black because it's spooky, it's black because it's covered in oil and thus you need to stop relying on immediate impressions and look more into the pokemon itself.

There is nothing to suggest the slightest occult with Litten. It's design suggests a cannon, potentially something with brimstone and sulfur, maybe something volcanic, or the next step in the design related to licking its own oil-covered fur.
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>>26342969
Sometimes I wonder if your me.

>>26342954
I would love it if they went the Pagliacci route, but that seems more appropriate for a water/dark type than water/fighting.
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>>26338990
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>>26340058
The zodiac isn't a thing. Foxes are not dogs
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>>26343218
>he says muh zodiac, clearly sarcastic
>takes super seriously

I swear, anti zodiac autists are just as bad as zodiac autists.
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>>26343175
Possibly, but it'd be a continuation of the clown theme and might work if it was something as brutal as an elephant seal
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>>26341538
That's a stretch.
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>>26338990
Ground and fighting are types for other pokemon.

Not surprising idiots on /vp/ think it's for the starters when we wont be getting evos for a long ass time
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>confirmed
no it's not
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>>26342969
>I would originally say they'd end up Grass/Flying, Fire/Dark or Fire/Poison, and Water/Fairy or pure Water.

Hence why I choose skepticism. Some people will jump onto an idea without convincing evidence (e. Fire/Dark for Litten solely because of it's colors, despite many dark-colored Pokemon not being Dark type).

I do think there is some basis to the typing leak but I choose to remain skeptical due to past experience. For example, before XY were released there had been legitimate leaks including the Espurr/Meowstic line as well as the Inkay/Malamar line, as well as specific information regarding how Inkay and Pancham evolve. These same leaks also stated the starter evolutions would be Grass/Dark, Fire/Psychic, and Water/Fighting. The leaks were partially correct but the leaker had changed some information for legal reasons.

My point being that even with significant evidence, the alternate hypothesis can still be flawed (of course in my example, both the null and alternative hypotheses were wrong, but thats besides the point).
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>all these fags who clearly don't know burrowing owls exist
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>>26343559
>Barn owl =! Burrowing owl
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>>26343545
I mean, it's not the matter of having to submit a final answer if you dare~, where the way to win is to not play, but rather if someone asked you, what would you say based on what you know.

And yeah I was going to cite that too about the Kalos starters. They were actually Grass/Fighting, Fire/Psychic, and Water/Dark but after the info was adjusted to make it seem more along the lines of a guess, people went with it instead of questioning the adjustment because they would rather believe in the secondary super effective circle helping the starters balance out rather than making the original circle more rigid. I think a bit of that is going on here with people laughing at the plausibility of GF ending a line that started with Grass/Flying as Grass/Ground, as it sounds so pants backwards.
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>>26343734
Once again, I was merely explaining my point of view. Skepticism is impartial. If there were more to go off of them a single leak then my opinion might change, but at the present I'm not willing to blindly believe that Rowlet will become a Grass/Ground type, as Grass/Flying seems significantly more likely.
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>>26343144

Again, I'm not saying black = Dark, I'm saying /black cat/ can potentially = Dark/spooky type.
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>>26343841
What's your guess on what Litten and Popplio will end up as then?
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>>26344035
I could make any number of guesses about potential secondary types for Litten and Popplio, or the lack of a secondary type, but I'd never claim for them to be fact without significantly more evidence than one leak might suggest. Although I can see why others may support Fire/Ground or Water/Fighting.
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>>26341280
Awesome. So Rowlet's 2nd stage will be Flying/Ground, and it's 3rd stage will be Ground/Fire. Thanks for the heads up.
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>>26341320
>>26341370
>this much straw clutching
It's literally just the order someone saved the images from photoshop. They just happened to do ground before fire.
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What stops clown from becoming a strongman? These starters are all circus based anyway.
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>>26344705
The order is the only thing that can be used to tie these to starter evolutions at all. If not they could just have been rearranged as Grass, Flying, Fire, Water, Ground, Fighting and any support for them not being for random pokemon is gone.
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Also why is Fire/Ground typing bad? It's literally only weak to two types that neither have priority and gains immunity to one type. Sure grass neutrality but who cares? Fire/Ground type assuming that cat becomes a fast thing is amazing offensive typing.

Camerupt is only bad because of lack of speed anyway.
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>>26344854
Never mind, forgot Aqua Jet and Water Shuriken. But not many use those.
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>>26338990
you know why rowlet is for little kids and manchildren? it's grounded forever
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>>26344854
It's bad because it's 4 times weak to water.

They will try to make it bulky like Camerupt so it'll have low speed. Also it's likely it'll be physically orientated so it'll have stab on Earthquake and Frare Blitz. It may be good on Trick Room teams, other than that it's bad.
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>>26344727
>circuis based
fuck this meme
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>>26344068
>vulnerability in the Japanese site
Dumbass. Stop shilling your channel.
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>>26344914
>muh assumptions
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>>26344914
Why would they make cat a slow thing? Cats are all fast, look at Purugly. Despite being fat it's pretty fast.
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>>26344854
It's not that bad for an offensive mon.

It is rather that people trying to use the icons to justify Fire/Ground are really stretching it.
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>>26344914
Also forgot to add:

>Muh 4x fire weakness, i must be bad... right? Especially when Primal Groudon is wreaking havoc in VGC'16 but i'm still good, cool and being useful.
Same applies to Ferrothorn especially.
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>>26344964
Fire weakness is nothing compared to water
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>>26338990

This forced grass/ground meme isn't even based on anything substantial. The first post about this was some guy joking around about wanting an owlbear, and then retards started taking it seriously, despite their only evidence being the order. Doesn't it make more sense for the guy who made the website to have fucked up? Hell, we know he fucked up, otherwise this shit wouldn't have been found.

But no, these people don't use logic, they're just contrarian faggots who like to turn innocent speculation into massive debates. Who the fuck even WANTS another grass/ground starter?
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>>26345238
Grass/Ground makes more sense than "lol I fucked up the order, oh well".

Obviously the most likely scenario is that they have absolutely nothing to do with the starters.
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>>26345259
Grass/Flying
Fire/Ground
Water/Fighting

Deal with it already.
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>>26345238
I hope you're not so naive as to think the discussion started in this thread. The owlbear was just a branch.

I also hope you realize there's only one Grass/Ground Pokemon in existence and several Grass/Flying types.
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>>26345423
You even hear yourself?

>Rowlet is Grass/Flying
>100% legit info
>Assuming it's Grass/Ground base on absolutely NOTHING
>Assuming the number of certain type combo is valid argument
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>>26345523
Please don't be so obtuse as to ask a question and then bash an actual answer.

>who even wants another grass/ground
>tell you it's not that big a deal to have another grass/ground compared to the alternative
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>>26343319
It's less of a stretch than the other bullshit people parade around, like the grass dinosaur and fire zodiac patterns.
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>>26339475

Don't Clowns fight each other with slapstick? Also, The Joker in a nutshell?

It makes sense for a Water/Fighting Clown.
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>>26345399
There is just as much pointing towards Fire/Ground as Water/Ground.

Which is very little.
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>>26345778
>Water/Ground
With decent stats it could be great.
>Fire/Ground
Not really
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Litten's dex entry and Sulfur symbol in it's face indicates very much it's gonna be fire/ground type, stop being a denialfag. Oil is land-based natural resource
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>>26345937
Oil is fossil fuel.
And fossil = Rock according to pokémon.

How the fuck does sulfur indicate Ground?
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>>26345959
Sulfur is found near volcanoes. Volcano-related pokemon tend to be pure fire, pure ground, or fire/ground.

If it was coal-based, you might have some legitimacy to your point, but the fact that the fossil fuel you're referring to is not solid, your argument actually makes more sense for fire/poison considering that oil and stains can easily be interpreted along the lines of sludge, sludge wave, sludge bomb, and gunk shot.
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>>26345523

We do not assume anything (except from OP), we speculate.

And the fact is, people are NOT speculating on a grass/ground starter on NOTHING.
The order of the types in our case are a freaking valid argument for a SPECULATION.

So right now, we may have 3 situations;

- The order does indeed do not tell anything, and the inclusion of Ground and Fighting type in the images doesn't mean anything either.
In that case we may return to speculate on a Fire/Dark and Water/Fairy starter.

- The order is still randomized but the inclusion of Ground and Fighting type means something. In that case, the OP's guess is plausible, but so are Fire/Fighting, Grass/Ground, Water/Ground or any combination of the included types.

- The order means something. Then a Grass/Ground starter is a plausible outcome, but a Fire/Ground starter is not, because of the logical order.

So in the end it all depends on how you think the order of the type images matter.

I personally believe the order does matter because having Grass/Fire/Water follow each other in any combination of the 6 included type is too much of a coincidence and I don't think there was a mistake on the Ground type's sequence number but I won't go as far as to claim that I'm right. I still think it's speculation. Now you can hate me and bash me if you want.
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>>26345937

>It's a black cat so it'll be a spooky type like Fire/Ghost or Fire/Dark.

Do you see why simplifying your arguments is bad now?
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>>26345988
I fully agree that oil is most like Poison than any other type, maybe except for Fire itself. I was more pointing out that Rock was more likely than Ground if you where to base it of the origin of oil.

As for sulfur it's extremely common and versatile you could make an arguement for it pointing towards Water if you wanted due to acid rain. But of all types I think sulfur is most strongly associated with Poison.

Also if you can't tell by now I think Litten will be Fire/Poison, that or pure Fire.
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>>26342274
It's not just the black fur, its little blurb on the Pokemon website described it as being a bit cold personality-wise and not letting its emotions show on the surface. Sounds darkish to me.
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>>26346416
Swadloon has the same social traits but it's bug/grass type. Don't think that just because it's dark-related. Consider that maybe instead of dark type because of it's color and having an introverted personality, that maybe it's just an introvert.
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>>26345259
>Grass/Ground makes more sense than "lol I fucked up the order, oh well".
>he thinks people don't make mistakes
Case in point: you're mistaken.
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>>26338990
What if the ground and fighting were for 2 extra starters they want to surprise us with? GF could choose this game to break tradition with and give us 5 starters, since they already have more variety in Mystery Dungeon.
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>>26346942
Mistakes happen, but assuming this is a mistake just so you can get Litten to evolve into Fire/Ground instead of pure Fire is unreasonable.
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>>26339670
No ones comsidering that because we seriously doubt in the entire gen there are only six types... The page only has assets for six types of Pokemon.
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>>26339407
It would be even more cancer if they end up being Gen 3 starters repeat except now with a Grass/Flying type
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>>26339475
That pic was killing me...
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>>26343588
it's !=, tard
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>>26348113
shit forgot the hand...
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>>26348140
We'll get it eventually...
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>>26348162
jesus
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>>26345896
They wouldn't redo two of the same starter typings as Hoenn region had
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>>26345959
Volcanoes, Hawaii, Tropic
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>>26348185
You're talking about the same guys that thought Fire/Fighting three generations in a row was a great idea.
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>>26339475
>>26348113
>>26348140
>>26348162
>>26348175
sicFire/Waterthose type confirmed.
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>>26341420
Get out, Leafy
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>>26346484

I'm gonna post this for the third and final time ITT.

Everyone knows in pokemon, black does not necessarily equal Dark type.

But Litten is the only pokemon this rule of thumb doesn't apply to, because it's black AND it's a cat. In other words, a black cat, you know those specific breeds of cats that are superstitious in many cultures.

>If a black cat crosses your path you'll have bad luck for 7 years

That kind of superstition. If this was Family Feud and the question was "What is the first word that comes to mind when you hear the term 'black cat'?" The top 3 answers would probably be something like "Halloween", "Superstition", and "Bad Luck".

The above point along with its dex entries lead a lot of people to believe that it will end up being Fire/Dark or Fire/Ghost. Seriously, this thing is just begging to get moves like Bite and Shadow Claw by level up.
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>>26341038
for you
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>>26341349
a
and then the rest of the letters (the next is "U")
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With this, it's quite likely it will be grass/ground, fire, and water/fighting.

The order just including pokemon revealed is correct

icon01 is grass
icon02 is flying
icon04 is fire
icon05 is fighting.

So why would icon03 and icon06 be in an incorrect order if the ones related to the pokemon revealed arent? Or why would these types be of other pokemon, when with the revealed ones it's in the exact same order of the starter types? Now if you think the pokemon BETWEEN the starters have the types missing, then it all fits, so, it's easy to conclude that at some point between Rowlet and Litten there will be a ground type, leading to the fact ground is 03 and not 04 while fire is 03, and since there are no other pokemon between them other than evolutions, it's easy o say one or two of Rowlet evos will be ground.

People who are going for fire/ground are assuming a mistake in the order shown of the types, that so far with the pokemon revealed hasnt happened.

You can say that the icons are simply not enough info to assume, and that wouldnt be wrong, but to use the hidden types and use it in an illogical claim that goes against the order show is just silly.
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>>26339261
My nigga :D
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>>26348507
>icon05 is fighting.
Oops, type, i meant Water.
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>>26338990
Why was the YouTube video removed?
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>>26348507

This is the company that let you datamine the entirety of ORAS locations from a single demo. The company that created Mew literally as a patch without Nintendo having prior knowledge. The company that made missingno, the berry glitch, the skydrop glitch, the japanese exclusive get your legendaries glitch in DP, the company that never released the azure flute, or did anything for zygarde, that made all special variations of pichu and pikachu untradeable, that didn't give castform a sandstorm form, that put Kageyama in charge of music, that made a special wifi boat parade for DP.

They are the company that gave the unhappy genderless snowflake attract, that prioritised Flareon's spdef instead of spatk in Gen 2, that put marill in the furthest corner of Johto, that hide chimecho on top of Mt Pyre last second in Gen 3, that made on DP compatible with battle revolution, not Pt or HGSS.

You can't predict their actions on the basis that they wouldn't make a minor error.
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>>26348765
Who is kageyama and what he did with music?
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>>26342348
No.

Never again.

I can't do this a 4th time.
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>>26348507
The thing is, while it's true that the pattern you're implying 'makes sense', there's no way to prove it's right. See it this way:

So far, we've never had a starter Pokemon with a secondary type from the get-go other than Bulbasaur. As you know, Bulbasaur keeps his typing throughout the entire line. IF, somehow, Rowlet changed midway through, it'd be breaking new ground and destroying what is already an established 'rule'.

Likewise, though, what if Gamefreak, for god knows what reason, decides that Litten is going to end up Ground/Fire, instead? Sure, it's unlikely, as it's never happened before, and sure, you might say that there are many more examples against it, but if you're willing to accept something that breaks the mold for one, then it's only natural that Litten could also end up as being Ground/Fire as opposed to Fire/Ground.

Can anyone prove any of this bs, though? Nope. So it's kind of sad that people can't accept both sides of the argument as being 'possibilities' backed by logic and are somehow trying to say that X IS CONFIRMED! or Y IS RIGHT, HOW CAN YOU NOT SEE IT? etc.

tl;dr It might be Grass/Flying, it might be Grass/Ground, it might be Fire or Fire/Ground or something else entirely different. No one knows and Game Freak once again suceeding at creating buzz even when they probably aren't trying. Good job, Masuda.
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>>26348380
It doesn't have to have a different type to get those kinds of move, consider golduck with psychic moves or vulpix with ghost
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