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STARTER EVO TYPES LEAKED

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http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/sun_moon/pokemon/partner_01/

http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/sun_moon/pokemon/images/icon01.png - Grass (used for Rowlet)

http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/sun_moon/pokemon/images/icon02.png - Flying (used for Rowlet)

http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/sun_moon/pokemon/images/icon03.png - Ground (unused)

http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/sun_moon/pokemon/images/icon04.png - Fire (used for Litten)

http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/sun_moon/pokemon/images/icon05.png - Water (used for Popplio)

http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/sun_moon/pokemon/images/icon06.png - Fighting (unused)

For icon 7 and beyond, there's nothing

So, there are icons for both of Rowlet's types, one for Litten's type, one for Popplip's type, and two unused ones for the Ground and Fighting types
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based on the order it looks like litten will be part ground and popplio will be part fighting
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>>26305438
I'm perfectly content with those. The Ground typing pretty much indicates Litten won't stand up.
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>>26305416
Where did you find the information?
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>>26305438
I sure hope its this way. We dont need another fire/fighting. Popplio could evolve into some kind of violent jester
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>>26305438
>immune to Ground
>Grass does neutral damage to Fire/Ground
>Double SE against Water/Fighting
>Resists Water and Fighting
Where were you when based Rowlet was proven to be the best Alola starter?
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>>26305459
They data mined the website. CoroCoro confirmed that more big scoops are coming, with a particularly big one on next issue, so we could easily get more info this month.

>>26305416
We also have to consider the possibility that the types are for unrelated new Pokemon, like early route mons.
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>>26305438
>order
Based on that it would mean Rowlet ends up Grass/Ground, Litten is pure Fire and Popplio is Water/Fighting.
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>>26305476
Rowdy Rowlbro here.
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:-P

;-)

:-U
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>>26305481
>Grass/Flying/Ground
Nigga, you dumb as fuck
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>>26305438
Or maybe.

Rowlet turns into Grass/Ground, Litten is pure Fire, Popplio is Water/Fighting
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>>26305459
OP's anus.
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>>26305438
>popplio part fighting

BASED
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>>26305476
>Pup uses any ice move
>Litten uses any fire move

gg

>>26305464
I think it's going for a Cirque du Soleil thing with the acrobat clowns.
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>>26305496
Are you illiterate?
>nigga
Of course you are.
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This is fake
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>>26305416
I don't really keep up to date on this shit, so can a few people just reply to me confirming if this has a good chance to be true or what?

I'm glad Litten isn't going to be Fire/Poison because then I'd have had to pick it despite me always picking the grass starter every single gen.
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>>26305416
If Litten is Fire/Ground I could see him being volcano related, hopefully that means not bipedal..
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>>26305509
>cirque du soleil
>animals
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>>26305524
>official pokemon website
>fake
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>Fire/Ground
Would be extremely disappointing. Hopefully the unused typings are for 1 or 2 new Pokemon to be revealed soon.
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>>26305479
>We also have to consider the possibility that the types are for unrelated new Pokemon, like early route mons.

They always show the early route bug with those thing don't they? The fact that there's no bug type tells me something else is going on.
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>>26305527
>confirm
nigga those files are on the official japanese sun and moon page for the starters specifically
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>>26305534
"official"
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>>26305532
>Every fire starter ends up bipedal or being able to stand on two legs
Sorry anon
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>>26305537
why would the type image files for two unrelated pokemon be stuck in between the starter's?
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>>26305416
How do you know if these are specifically for the starters? I think they're just placeholders for whatever Pokémon they're gonna reveal next.
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>>26305517
So then enlighten us as to where Flying fits into your oh so masterful train of though
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yeah no, this has nothing to do with the starters

if anything ground and fighting will just be types used for the first round of early route Pokemon they'll be showing off next month, middle stage evolutions always come way later
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>>26305552
>what is pokemon.co.jp
>what is the official japanese website
Holy shit you must be baiting
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>>26305537

>extremely disappointing

What are you smoking? Fire/Ground is a great type barring the water weakness. Camerupt sucks because of its stats.
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>>26305561
Are you retarded?
It would mean Rowlet, a Grass/Flying type changes into a Grass/Ground.
Pure speculation of course, but based on the "order" thing that guy was saying, it's what would happen.
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>>26305559
>>26305563
Look at the numbers in the filenames you fucking retards
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Why would the data be there in the first place?
Couldn't they just add it later?
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biting le epic bait thread
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>>26305558
Then Owl turns Grass/Ground?
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>>26305416
>Litten becomes Fire/Fighting
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>>26305580
why would that mean anything? ground even comes before fire, when fire is the primary type
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>>26305573
>an owl turning into a Ground type
>backpeddling by saying it's pure speculation
>taking something an anonymous poster on a chinese drawings website said this literally
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>>26305612
I would laugh so fucking hard if that happened.
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>>26305416

Anon...Rowlet's evo leaked before Rowlet! We always knew he was grass/flying.
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>>26305479
>>26305537
>>26305540
>>26305559
>>26305563
Can you not read URLs?
These images are in the directory EXCLUSIVE to the Partners page, meaning the Starters. Go look yourselves.
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>>26305618
So you're just shitposting.
Fuck off Reddit.
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>>26305476
flamethrower
icy wind
done
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>>26305573
Unless ground becomes its primary type
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This all a ruse made by some guy at nintendo
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>Litten's 3rd evo is a Sabertooth Tiger
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>>26305639
>denial
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GUYS
WHAT IF THE OWL
BECOMES
AN OWLBEAR
THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE FOR IT TO HAVE THR GROUND TYPING, NO?
GUYS
FUCKING LISTEN
OWL
BEAR
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>>26305505
So that explains the smell.
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>>26305652
>Rowlet
>Root + Owlet
>Grass/Ground
>Tree Owl
Confirmed Torterra 2.5
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>>26305618
>an owl turning into a Ground type

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burrowing_owl
There's some justification for a Ground owl, anon.

That said, thinking Rowlet is going to lose flying type is ridiculous.
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>>26305652

>Rowlet loses the flying type
>Becomes grass ground
>Still 4x weak to ice

You cannot make this shit up.
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>>26305629
>m-maybe if I call h-him a leddit shitposter, m-maybe I can w-win this argument!
Nice ad hominem anon
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>>26305674
It's barely an argument when you post memes as a rebuttal.
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>>26305627
>http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/sun_moon/pokemon/images/
how is this URL exclusive to the partners page?
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>>26305537
If litten was fast and powerful its ground/fire typing would be fine
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>>26305652
Oh shit, is it actually happening?

I don't know how to feel about this. I think it could be cool, but it makes you wonder as to why they would bother giving it the flying type at all, no?
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>buff mega Owl that flaps its wings to make earthquakes happen
Perfect.
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>not fire/poison
>not water/fairy

IM GONNA CHUCK A SHIT
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If this does turn out to be true, it'd be damn cool if it wasn't the fire starter that was fighting for once. We need more Fire/Ground types.
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>Fire/Ground

HAPPENING
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Is this legit?

I wanted Fire/Dark, fuck
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>>26305622
as much as i hate roothoot i really like this gif
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>>26305739
Yeah I wanted Fire/Dark too, pretty sad. You never know tho, Or it could be Litten is pure Fire, and Rowlet becomes ground.
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>>26305741
Solgaleo is Fire/Ground
Lunaala is Flying/Fighting

Everyone btfo
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>>26305532
I just realized, are zodiacfags going to call Litten's line tigers even if it ends up nothing like a tiger?
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>>26305749
I'd like that more than Ground/Fire
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>>26305537

Fire/Ground is good, anon. The problem is the only 2 are Camerupt (who is shit) and Primal Groudon (who is broken). You get a good middle of the road Fire/Ground Pokemon and you got some good shit going on there.
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fire/ground makes sense
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I just came into this thread and I'm already hitting my head against an anvil.

>starter gets a part Flying typing from it's base form for the first time in the franchises history
>people genuinely think it's going to lose it's flying type and suddenly become a fucking owlbear for some reason

There comes a point where you just have to use some common sense.
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>>26305612
>mfw
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>>26305764
No, they're just gonna say it counts because it's a cat and tigers are also cats so they're practically the same thing.
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>>26305779
Nigga those guys are just trolling.
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>grass/flying
>fire/ground
This is the gen of the shittiest types. Popplio is the only hope.
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>>26305737
>it'd be damn cool if it wasn't the fire starter that was fighting for once
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Listen. I don't give a fuck that the fire type managed to avoid getting stuck with fighting. One of them still is.

Why do we have to have a fucking fighting secondary type all of the fucking time?
This is getting ridiculous. There's tons of other unused types for starters, so why always fighting?
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>>26305776
>artillery
>not eruption feline
WE STAGE TWO BOYS
ROOTHOOT CONFIRMED
CUBBLE CONFIRMED
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>>26305779
>starter gets a part Flying typing from it's base form for the first time in the franchises history
That's technically a correct statement, but I'm just making sure you're aware that it's not the first dual-typed base form of a starter line.
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>>26305764
Of course, cyndaquil is a rat for them remember
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Guys, what if the regional bird is Normal/Flying?
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>>26305801

Delphox broke the chain since gen 3, it'd be a shame to go back to it.
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>>26305812
What if it's ur mum.
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>>26305795
>Fire/Ground
>shitty type
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>>26305779
>common sense
Yes, like looking at the fucking order of the icons and coming to a conclusion based on that.
You are dumb for thinking you can predict GF, anything can happen.
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>>26305839

Anyone who says fire/ground is a bad typing is fucking retarded. Camerupt being shit doesn't make the typing shit. Primal Groudon is broken as fuck, but it did demonstrate a fire type that isn't crippled by stealth rock for once.
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Rowlet Grass/Flying → Grass/Fighting (powerful kicks)
Litten stays pure Fire
Popplio Water → Water/Ground (it's slower on the ground so it's evolutions make up for this)
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>>26305860

I am also retarded for not pointing out that it also does away with that rock weakness without adding weaknesses to shit regular fire types aren't weak to (looking at you Fire/Fighting).
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>No fire/poison
I knew it was hopeless
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>>26305891
I really hope Litten stays pure Fire, is it just speculation that Litten will be Fire/Ground?
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>>26305891
>Rowlet Grass/Flying → Grass/Fighting (powerful kicks)

No fuck off, I don't want another Chesnaught. STOP WITH THE FIGHTING TYPES ON STARTERS.
I am so mad.
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>>26305891

It would work, but I seriously doubt they're going to eliminate Rowlet's original secondary typing. Have they ever done that shit? I honestly can't remember.
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>>26305891
Why would a flying type lose its flying type mid evo?
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>they denied Gen 7 despite concrete proof
>got BTFO
>they denied the owl starter despite concrete proof
>got BTFO
>they deny that based Rowlet will be a Grass/Ground uber slayer
>will get BTFO
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>>26305902

It's speculation because the ground typing was found there unconnected to anything, as was fighting. So one them is going to be ground and the other is going to fighting, most likely.
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>>26305776
>Dynamite Saber-tooth Tiger
>Dynamiger

Best starter
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>>26305908
not for starters, no
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>>26305916
THIS
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>>26305916

>Grass/Ground uber slayer

But Grass/Ground sucks ass.
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Hsjfkdjsj But muh Water/Electric...

Well, I love them anyway.
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>>26305939
no it doesn't. nice bait
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>>26305929

So there was a non-starter that pulled that shit? Still, since I can't remember it so it must be an insane rarity. Generally things pick up another typing rather than drop one, whether that be in favor for another or not.
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How significant is the order?
If it's significant, then this guy >>26305652
probably hit the nail on the head with the owlbear evo path. It isn't all that farfetch'd.

If the order is irrelevant, then Litten is more than likely getting the ground typing with Popplio getting the fighting type.

It really is that simple.

I know fire lovers are worried about getting the fire type, but I can almost guarantee you that won't be the case this time around.
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>>26305860
Primal Groudon also has a unique ability that completely nullifies its water weakness you mongoloid
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>>26305612
not only that but a second water/ground
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>>26305951
>I know fire lovers are worried about getting the fire type
Fighting* type
Fuck sake.
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>>26305951
This honestly, people are so adamantly one or the other, when really it could be either outcome.
People need to be more open-minded.
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>>26305947

>Good

>4x weak to ice still

It's a better typing that flying/grass, but giving it STAB Earthquake doesn't suddenly make it an amazing typing.
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>>26305916
Daily reminder that root hoot was not real
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>>26305927
Fuse Tiger
Fusiger

Sound better?
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>>26305949
Scorupi, Scyther, Larvitar from the top of my head
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>>26305627
>http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/sun_moon/pokemon/images/icon03.png

There is nothing here that ties this URL with the starters
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>>26305960

And? Fire types are already weak to goddamn water, 4x doesn't make as much of a difference as adding an entirely new thing to fuck it over. You telling me you're some sort of mongoloid that actually throws out mismatched types hoping for the best? The only other thing ground/fire is weak to is ground, which regular fire types are also weak to.

I'll say it again.

>Loses weakness to sneaky pebbles and rocks
>Doesn't gain any new weakness
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>>26305438
>http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/sun_moon/pokemon/images/icon04.png
I FUCKING CALLED IT.
WATER FUCKING FIGHTING. LET'S GO
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>>26305772
>le water gun face
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I mean, burrowing owls are a thing.
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>>26305897
Don't worry bro, there's still a lot of new pokemon we don't know about yet.
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>>26306002

Why is this a thing? Do you people seriously use fire types against water moves to begin with? That shit only worked for Charizard X.
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It'll probably be Rowlet becoming Grass/Ground, Litten staying pure Fire would be wicked. Then Popplio becoming Water/Fighting could be neat.
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No joke, as a Rowlet fan I actually love the idea of it becoming a grass/ground.

>>26305652
>>26305694
This just sounds awesome as fuck.


I just don't see it happening though. They really wouldn't have give Rowlet the flying typing in the first place if they were going to make it Grass/Ground. Would they?
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>>26305980
>implying it wont evolve into a panther since it's mostly black
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>>26306025

Not likely, but who the fuck knows. It's not like there's many of either of those combinations, so it could go either way.
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>>26306018
4x weakness to a common type is bad. Stop trying to dance around that fact.
Especially when so many things are running scald.
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>>26306003
>The burrowing owl (Athene cunicularia) is a small, long-legged owl found throughout open landscapes of North and South America. Burrowing owls can be found in grasslands, rangelands, agricultural areas, deserts, or any other open dry area with low vegetation.[2] They nest and roost in burrows, such as those excavated by prairie dogs (Cynomys spp.). Unlike most owls, Burrowing Owls are often active during the day, although they tend to avoid the midday heat. But like many other kinds of owls, burrowing owls do most of their hunting from dusk until dawn, when they can use their night vision and hearing to their advantage. Living in open grasslands as opposed to the forest, the burrowing owl has developed longer legs, which enables it to sprint as well as fly when hunting.

Huh. The leg thing seems to fit at least
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>>26306025
I don't know why people are acting like the flying type is precious or important. Pokémon can evolve into different types as we have seen before, it's not like "oh no we can't change its type now that we made it FLYING".
It's not like owls are birds or anything either.

That's not to say it's likely of course, but it's definitely not out of the equation.
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So Litten gains a 4x weakness to Popplio, whilst Rowlet resists its Ground-type attacks.
Meanwhile Popplio is weak to both of Rowlet's types.
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>>26306036

The burrowing owl still does fly, though. So that's a thing.
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>>26306003
>>26306036
Shit mate
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>>26305556
Surely as the only type of the trio with no quadrupedal evo, fire is due one. If anything it not having one yet makes it more likely.
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>>26306060
Technically though, you don't need to be a flying type to fly.
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>>26306064
What would you do if this big fucker was coming up to you like he was telling you to fuck off?
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>>26306033

I never said it wasn't. All I'm saying is what's the deal with acting like ground/fire is the worst when the only Pokemon that had it was garbage and the other was busted. This 4x weakness to a common typing shit doesn't stop a Pokemon from being viable or we wouldn't see shit like Garchomp and Dragonite still being used. It's almost like you can't rely on 1 Pokemon.
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>>26306065
I agree, a tiger with lava could easily be fire/ground
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>>26306078

The magma/lava thing would certainly fit the region too, considering the damn volcanoes everywhere.
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M-Maybe they'll add Dark so we can have Fire/Dark. Maybe. Whatever the result, DON'T FUCK THIS UP GODDAMNIT.
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I'd be disappointed if Popplio's final form isn't water/fairy. Water/fighting isn't really that good of a combination, unless it has some strange way to make up for it.
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>>26306136

I honestly expected a post like this before all the ones about how shit of a typing fire/ground is. Fighting only adds fighting stab to a water type and does fuck all else, which is a shame.
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Maybe Rowlet and Litten are both Ground type.
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>>26306163
maybe they all turn into Ground / Fighting types
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>>26306175
they all turn fire/fighting
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it'll probably be grass/ground - fire - water/fighting.
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Wasn't that obvious? Last generation was where the starters were super effective against their counterparts (Grass/Fighting > Water/Dark > Fire/Psychic)

Since Rowlett is part flying, it only makes sense water would be fighting
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>>26305416
Ground Fire litten fits perfectly with the oil that comes from its fur and its firebreathing theme.

It's going to be a petrol cat

Poplio will go from acrobat to strongman
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>>26306189

I doubt it, but pure fire would be cool to have. Don't have objections to fire/ground either though.
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>>26306209
I was hoping for fire/dark but pure fire would be neat too, not sure how I feel about fire/ground yet. Maybe if its volcano themed...
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>>26306197

Then Litten has to be some sort of faggot and not having a secondary typing that works to its advantage against Rowlet. I swear to god if it's the other way around, though.
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>>26305764
They call a "needlemouse" (hedgehog) a rat and a fennec fucking fox a dog, so what do you think?
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>>26306220

Well, it is Hawaii so I figure they'll have some sort of Volcanic Pokemon somewhere.

>It's just Volcanion
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>>26306235
if only their evos leaked this early
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>>26306199
i mean the way it poses when it comes out seems like itd be perfect for a strongman pose
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So why is Popplio the only starter that doesn't have a 4x weakness?

This doesn't seem right.
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>>26306250

Yeah, it's a show off pose that strongmen also make. I'm sure the circus theme will continue, so the strongman thing definitely works.
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>>26306263

It's been done before with Charizard getting fucked with Venusaur and Blastoise did all right though.
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>>26305652
Rowlet becomes an owlbear, Popplio a selkie and Litten a manticore?
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>>26306197
But Fighting isn't SE against Ground, and Ground does nothing to Flying, so that logic makes no sense.
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>Ground
Does this mean Litten will be mixed-attacker/physical trash?

>tfw no Earth Power/Flamethrower spam
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Sort of disappointing but can't think of what other reason those would be doing there. Maybe you get a free Hoenn starter
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>>26305927
>Not TNTiger
Missed chance anon
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Excited for another pure Fire type. Litten best.
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>>26306390

That shit happened in XY already if you count the free Mega Hyper Chicken. Speaking of those giveaways, I hope gen 2 or 4 starters have mega evos this time around if this continues to be a thing.
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>>26306431
They should just give megas to pokemon that need it, no more mega pseudo legend crap
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>>26305776
>becomes stunt tiger complete with circus cannon theme
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>>26306459
wait holy fuck, will those whiskers turn into a moustache and his head marking become a stunt helmet pattern? he will look like a stunt man sticking his head out of a cannon
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I actually think that the Ground type will be the Rowlet evolution. Maybe Grass/Ground. Fire will stay pure, and Water/Fighting will be the Popplio.
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>>26305416
I hope Litten has a similar design to Arcanine.
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>>26306409
>not T-N-tigre
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>>26306497
Why would Rowlet gain a ground typing, it's description talks about it being able to fly silently to sneak up on its prey, Why would it gain a ground typing with a description like that.
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>>26306516
Teeyentigre.
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>>26306009
What if the game is just that island, the starters, the regional bird, and the legendaries (which are all three unobtainable). The bird is in the background, and the legendaries are just bosses to knock out. It's just a "demo" for nothing.
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>>26306516
Sorry anon, I'm spic so "Tiger" is more badass for me
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>>26306519
Have you forgotten about Surskit?
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Shitty concept of stuntman in cannon tiger
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>>26306555
But that is a bug pokemon. Bugs are known for metamorphosis in real life, so it would make sense that it would be represented in the pokemon world. A flying bird however doesn't lose the ability to fly when it gets older so it gaining a ground type wouldn't make sense if the first form is a flying type. If they planned Rowlet to be part ground they wouldn't have given it a flying type to begin with.
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>>26306561
that's a frog
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>>26306581
This is pokemon we're talking about, a ficitonal world with fictional creatures, monsters. It doesn't need to explain shit, or strictly follow the laws of non-fiction.
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>>26305764
Zodiacfags will shut up when the resemblance is most definitely undeniably broken, like if the next Fire starter is a rhino or a shark
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>>26306604
>rhino
basically a horse
>shark
basically a snake

gosh anon :^)
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>>26306603
That's true, I'm just hoping they don't remove it's flying type. We already have a grass ground starter and we don't need another one for a long time.
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>>26306623
>we already have a grass ground starter

We also had a fire/fighting starter that didn't stop them from continuing the trend for 2 more gens
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>litten evo might end up with a ground/fire typing
at least this all doesn't really matter for story playthrough, but still
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>>26306648
I know it won't stop them, but I just hope they realise by now that having multiple with the same dual typings isn't the best way to promote them. As most people will get sick of them before even using them.
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>>26306561
Sorry to say but this looks like shit.
>evilknigger.jpg
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>>26306657
It depends on its stats anon. 4 times weakness doesn't automatically ruin a Pokemon's viability.
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>>26306657
Talonflame is weak to rocks.
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ROWLET WILL BE THE GROUND TYPE SPUNKHEADS, THE ORDER SUGGESTS SO. WHY WOULD LITTENS SECONDARY TYPING BE PUT BEFORE HIS FIRST? ROWLETS GONNA LOSE ITS FLYING AND GAIN GROUND, LITTEN WILL STAY THE SAME, THE POP IS GOIN WATER FIGHTING, ITS OBVIOUS
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>>26306710
And a favorite wall like ferrothorn is 4x weak to fire. It sucks, but it's not that big of a deal.
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Maybe that is not a seal, but a mole. So water/ground
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Going by the order of those pics numbers at the end

Grass > Flying > Ground
Fire
Water > Fighting


...This implies rowlet loses it's flying type and gains ground, Litten stays the same, and popplio goes water/fighting

...I'm very much ok with the sea lion being a fighter instead of another water psychic, fairy, ice or whatever
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>>26305476
>Where were you when based Rowlet was proven to be the best Alola starter?
This happened 2 days ago anon
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If Popplio becomes Water/Fighting I will be so fucking mad. Samurott is an actual samurai sea lion and it's not part Fighting.
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>>26305891
>water ground
4x grass weaknesses

No thanks senpai.
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fighting/flying
pure ground
fire/water/grass

accept it denialfags
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water/fairy
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I kinda want Litten to be fire/rock not fire/ground
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>>26305438
HAPPENING
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>>26307048
based on the actual order, rowlet becomes grass/ground litten stay pure fire and popplio becomes water/fighting.
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>>26307024
>no other weakness
>immune to electric
quagsire, swampert and even whiscash proved well enough that it's a great type
ice moves aside why would you keep a water mon in on grass types anyway?
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Fire/Ground sounds cool, means it would likely be a quadruped, and I can see those oily hairballs upgrading into giant flaming tar-balls. Normal damage from stealth rock is also top quality.

Water/Fighting gives me hope that Popplio might upgrade from being an asshole clown to an actual fighter that looks cool.
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>>26306136
>water/fighting
>not a good type combo

Say what? that some great coverage anon.
Grass(water love it's ice attacks)
Dragon^
Flying^^
Rock
Ground
Dark
Ice
Steel
Fire
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>Rowlet and Bulbasaur both start off with extra typing
>Litten is on land while Charizard is in the sky
>Popplio and Blastoise are both Firefighters, just in a diffrent meaning

DEEPEST LORE
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>>26306070
I'd fuck off
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>>26306060
>The burrowing owl still does fly, though. So that's a thing.
Flygon, Volcarona, Latias, Latios, Golurk, Hydreigon, Reshiram, Zekrom, probably a bunch more I'm forgetting.

None are flying types, all can still learn Fly.
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>everyone assuming the order matters
>implying Litten won't be another fire/fighting type
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>>26307248
The order does matter, and Litten will end up being pure fire.
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>>26305652
Naming it Vandagyre then.
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What connection do these have to the partners pages? Genuinely curious.

To play devil's advocate on the Ground type, many island-dwelling birds have evolved to become flightless over time. This has happened with several species of owls that are now extinct. I could see GameFreak referencing rhat and having the initially flight-capable Rowlet become a Ground type. However, the default explanation is that Rowlet remains a Flying type throughout its evolutionary line.
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the owl's going to be some fat disgusting ground thingy, you just know
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>>26307343
It's just that those are the only six types that have their own page on the partner pages.
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>>26305416
Have any of you thought about the possibility it will only reveal the typing of the second stage, which can still change in the final form? For example, letting Litten only gain a new type in the final form.

It happened that way in DDP.
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How would you feel if Popplio's last stage had a Voltorb as a part of it, just like Mantine has a remoraid on it's body?
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>>26307429
why the fuck would it have that and not just an ordinary ass ball.
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>>26307439
Because he deserves it
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>>26305776
>>26306459
>>26306489
>Litten's final evo is fire/ground "stunt man"

Now listen:

>Litten always remains coolheaded and doesn't show its emotions on the surface.

Litten's final evo learns new move "Lose Head" and literally fires its own head!
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How about the evos being like this:
Rowlet: grass/flying
Litten: fire/rock (still can have vulvano theme)
Popplio: water/fighting

Would continue the effectiveness thing the last gen had going on.
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>>26307516
That's vulcano* don't hate me
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>>26307516
>Vulvano
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>>26307516
but the site has ground on it not rock
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>>26307528
I'm just saying it would seem kind of logical as I can imagine both of the starters going that path.

I don't believe in OP's theory just because pokemon happens to have those files up. It might even be intentional to fool you guys, or it could be any other reason they're there.
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>>26307060
That's not bad either.
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>>26307516
>Fire/Rock

That would be complete ass.
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>>26306052
That's not the point though, the point is that they bothered making it flying to begin with, which is totally unnecessary if they planned on changing type in two evos.
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>>26307516
I still think it'll be Grass/Ground and pure Fire.
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>>26307554
How about fire/ice
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>>26307559
maybe the evolution will explain why its grass ground now instead of flying, the owlbear theory could be right?
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>>26307554
as long as its fast that is fine. Magcargo is shit because its slow as molasses. and has zero bulk.

Offensively fire/rock is a great combo.
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>>26307580
Right? That's what I was thinking.

It having a lot of weaknesses doesn't make it bad per say.
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Fire/Ground makes sense for Litten evolution, fits with the brimstone symbol and the oily fur. It will probably focus on special attacks like Earth Power.

Water/Fighting fits for Popplio because of its acrobat theme, its evolution could balance on its hind legs to use fighting type attacks.

Grass/Groulet isn't a bad theory either but the initial design doesn't really speak Ground type to me. Seems like a waste to keep its 4x Ice weakness if they were going to change its Flying type.
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flying/ground
fire/fighting
water/grass
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>>26307632
>but the initial design doesn't really speak Ground type to me
what colour is rowlet again?
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flying/ground/grass
fighting/rock
water/fire
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>>26307632
I'm thinking Grass/Ground then just pure Fire for Litten. I can see Rowlets theme changing.
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>>26307654
>color=design

Is Pidgey a ground type, anon?
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fire/grass
fire/ground
water/ground
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>>26307674
its second move is sand attack though
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>>26307673
I'd really rather not have Torterra 2.0 but you are welcome to your own perceived reality.
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>>26307684
Sand Attack is common among Flying types
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>>26307654
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>>26307684
Every starter's first move is a normal type attack like scratch or tackle, does that make them normal types ?
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>>26307696
Farfetch'd, Gliscor, Ninjask, Pidgey, Skarmory and Starly are the only flying type lines with the move. One of these is ground type. One of these evolves from a ground type. One is steel, the others are brown.

>>26307698
they're used by normalfags you tell me
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>>26307719
1/6 is a ground type

6/6 are Flying type

So that means Rowlet is six times more likely to stay Grass/Flying

Am I doing it right?
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>>26305438
>yfw it's Litten
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ground/fighting
fire/fighting
water/flying
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>>26307743
those are the only flying types with it, not the only pokemon with it.
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implying gamefreak would put the types in like that. Litten will not be fire/ground, if he is I'll eat my feet.
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>>26307759
But Rowlet is a flying type, and you just statstically proved how likely he is to keep that type, so I assume you're agreeing with me objectively?
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Really hope this is just for other pokemon but it's just denial. looks like I'm getting a pure fire type again
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>>26307766
rowlet will be ground/flying

book it
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>>26305911
>what is Scyther
>what is the most frequently changed secondary type among Megas (hint: Charizard X, Gyarados, Altaria)
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>>26307789
Good prank anon
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can rowlet learn fly
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>>26306581
Just because it's not Flying type doesn't mean it can't fly. See:
Beedrill
Venomoth
Dustox
Vibrava
Flygon
Golurk
Volcarona
Genesect
Mega Charizard X
Mega Altaria
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>>26305476
>Grass is SE against Fighting
>Flying is SE against Water
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Yeah why are you guys saying Fire/Ground?

Based on the order (especially since Flying follows Grass), it's

Grass/Ground
Fire
Water/Fighting

Probably an ancient land-based owl or something like a kiwi or ostrich.
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>>26307815
I hadn't thought of that actually, but other than the type listing I don't really see anything else pointing at the fact that Rowlet will lose its flying type. If it does lose it's type and become part ground, well that means it'll get STAB earthquake which isn't all that bad.
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>Grass/Ground burrowing owl
>Pure Fire, first since gen 2
>Water/Fighting to make up for Samurott's dumb pure Water typing

I'm okay with this. It's going to make it harder to choose, though...
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>>26305652
This is a legitimate possibility. I mean burrowing owls are a thing. I don't know about owl bear but burrowing owl at least.
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>>26307429
sounds good to me

electric/water tho
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>>26307854
I'm sorry I'm not autistic
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>>26307998
You don't have to be autistic. Stop with these buzzword defense mechanisms.
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>Gen 7 is introducing pokemon with 3 types
>Rowlet becomes Grass/Flying/Ground
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>>26308013
Irony:the post.
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Poplio water ground like swampert u fucking idiots, alola is hoenn counterpsrt
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>>26308035
That 8X Ice type weakness though
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>>26308036
If buzzword is a buzzword to you you've been on the internet too long.
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>>26305416

I mean those could just be the types of upcoming mons they're going to reveal as well.
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>>26308088
If autistic is a buzzword to you then you're probably autistic
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>>26305652
The fuck is an owl bear? That sounds retarded i want a normal owl
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>>26305416

You people are reading way too much into this. They could upload images of the other types at literally ANY time.

It could be as simple as a scenario where they arbitrarily created images for Ground and Fighting before the others and just uploaded those first.
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>>26308119
Why are you so eager to call people autistic? Can you attempt to explain what you're trying to say in other words?
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>>26308130
go to the zoo then
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What if it becomes a literal "barn" owl?
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>>26308146
Am I getting trolled right now?
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>>26308169
Full circle, you're hopeless.
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>>26308189
OK kid nice talking to (You)
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>Fire/Ground

I definitely saw that coming. Although admittedly, I did say Fire/Rock. I knew it was going to be something to fit with Litten's "exploding bomb" motif, and the brimstone mark on his face.

I kinda wish it were Fire/Rock, so that the starters could have a reverse type triangle, with Flying -> Rock ->Fighting -> Flying, but hey, good shit all around.
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>Fire/Ground
>Grass/Flying
If this is true, those two had better be fast as fuck.
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>Popplio : clown
>second stage : acrobat
>final : strongman
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You guys are acting as if the meta will be exactly the same.
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>>26308133
explain icon07 to icon16 missing
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People saying Fire/Ground, if anything It'll be pure Fire, please.
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>>26308301
>
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>>26308301
This. People are ignoring the order.
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>>26308359
>
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>>26308281
I already did. Can you read?
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>>26305652
based
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I've got an interesting idea.

Considering the order of the typings and considering how unlikely it is that Rowlet will lose its Flying type, WHAT IF the Gen 7 starters get Mega Evolutions in the same gen they're introduced in?

Think about it, Rowlet's third evo ends up with a Mega that changes from Flying to Ground. That would explain the order of the image files here and still make sense, no?
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>>26308407
oh yeah because you call a bullshit argment that makes no sense an explanation
that's not how it works, a big company's website's not run by 14 years old who upload icons by themselves
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>>26308442
It's not out of the question, but I'd hope not since it'd leave Litten's line as pure Fire. Besides, GF doesn't want to blow their load too soon with Megas for recent additions to the Dex.
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I don't think those "leaked" Types are the related to the starters. They never reveal the second stages that soon, usually they only come about a couple months before the game (correct me if I'm wrong), so it doesn't make sense that they'd be in the code for that page. They're probably the types of the next critters to be revealed.
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>>26308465
>Besides, GF doesn't want to blow their load too soon with Megas for recent additions to the Dex

Honestly, I don't understand why they didn't just introduce Megas for all the starters in Gen 6. Having Megas for some starters and not others just doesn't feel right.
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>>26308473
it's the order that bugs me,if this is the case then ground and fighting would be the last ones added right? only time will tell I guess
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>>26308508
I think it's to give themselves some time to have big reveals later on. For example, they could probably afford to hold off on Mega Kalos starters until down the line when we get Kalos reboots.

To keep things interesting for the time being, we may get Pseudo-Megas like the Ash-Greninja thing.
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>>26308133
>>26308407
>>26308455
the images themselves are timestamped 2012 (eg xy)
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>>26308508
It makes perfect sense. Starters have huge fanbases and thus mega starters generate the most hype, especially since a lot are shit competitively. You don't blow your wad all at once.
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>>26305916
>denied Gen 7 because it seemed dumb that gen 6 would be the first gen not to get a second set of games for the region, as those have been generally regarded as fan favorites quite often and that seemed like a plainly established pattern.
>Now Gen 6 is in the running for worst region for being left so seemingly incomplete
>Never really denied a grass owl due to the trademarks, just denied Roothoot and company
>Still not wrong, keep saying it's the evo, antiRoothooters still have the high ground

When your starter predictions are founded on intellectual dishonesty, you know your opinion is shaky.
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>>26306078
im kinda imagining a tiger with rock type skin and the stripes has lava flowing through them dripping out of it sometimes, fuck thatd be awesome
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>>26308627
It would especially fit the volcanic region to have a volcanic starter, plus we already have the Brimstone symbol on his first form which seems like more than just a coincidence.
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>>26306065
>If anything it not having one yet makes it more likely.
That's not how probability works.
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So considering ground is mentioned before fire, I assume it won't be fire/ground. Unless there's some reason I'm forgetting that make something like that possible?
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>>26308673
actually, it's not more likely just by itself but it's more likely considering the past
or more precisely, it's less likely that it doesn't happen
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>>26308648
something like this would be fucking amazing imo
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>>26305481
>>26306497
>>26306711
>>26306969
>>26307060
>>26307563
>>26307854
>muh ordering
This is the most retarded reasoning I've ever heard. You have no idea how this site was put together.

This is either
(a) the order they happened to save the images in from Photoshop
(b) a random order decided by their build script for the site. Perhaps based on some other natural ordering (alphabetical in Japanese?)

So Rowlet's final evo will be Grass/Flying.
Litten's final evo will be Fire/Ground or Fire/Fighting (oh god no)
Popplio's final evo will be Water/Fighting or Water/Ground
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>>26308807
That's still not how probability works. If you flip a coin and get 6 heads in a row, it's still 50/50 what the next flip will be.
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>>26305438
So it's not Dark? Meh, I'll be content with a Houndoom for now, not competitively of course. In-game wise.

And Water/Fighting? Now this is a rare version right? We had Water/Ground (which is another unique combi).
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>>26308857
>You have no idea how this site was put together
you don't either. stop acting like dual types can't change
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>>26308857
You have no idea how the site was put together either, so if you really think it's the most retarded reasoning then it's clear you have some denialfag agenda. Occam's razor, simplest answer is usually right. They put it in the order appropriate to the starters' typings. Flying is right after Grass.
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>>26307520
*Volcano
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>>26306060

as long as it still learns HM Fly. I don't give a fuck.
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>>26308857
Just ignore the autists.
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>>26305987
Nincada as well
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>>26308908
>denialfag

So you're a Roothootfag?
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>>26309032
No, how new are you? Denialfag isn't exclusive to the fake leak shit.
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>>26309106
And that somehow makes it less retarded?
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>>26305573
You are retarded for sure
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>>26309135
If you have a problem with the terminology, don't take it up with me. That's site culture.
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>>26305805
Stop shitposting please
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>>26309227
>muh board culture
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>"t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-the order doesn't matter, it's just neatly set up in a way that completely makes sense purely out of coincidence" - this one autist

You legit cannot make this shit up. My sides.
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>>26309300
>shitposting intensifies

Are you trying to be a meme or something?
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I was hoping for a poison secondary type for Litten, but ground is nice too.

I'll be happy so long as it's not slow as balls.
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>>26308879
>>26308908
I'm a web developer. Based on how the Pokemon sites look and work, I do have /some/ idea how they are likely made. Given they named the images icon01, icon02 instead of proper file names, it hints at an automatic site build.

Of course dual types can change, but it's very rare (5 examples out of 721 Pokemon?). It's clearly more likely that the icons are in no particlar order.

Occam's razor is that they were named in no particular order. Rowlet is grass/flying so they did those 2 icons. Then Litten is fire/ground so they did those 2 next, and happened to save the ground one before the fire one. Simple.

>denialfag agenda
lolwut
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>>26305537
Bane?
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>>26309106
So what am I supposed to be denying? I never said Rowlet can't become ground type, but it's clearly the least likely outcome (otherwise why give it Flying in the first place when the base stage can't even fly?)

You need to take a course in critical thinking.
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>>26309477
>base stage can't even fly
but it can?
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>>26309452
Occam's razor is that the order is telling. If Ground were really associated with the Fire starter, they would have put Fire beforehand since they would be done with the Grass line. It's easier to progress Grass-Fire-Water than anything else since that's what's tradition. I could be reading into it too much like when they gave Blaziken 'Ice Punch', but we don't know what's going on and taking it on its face is the safest bet.

>>26309477
>but it's clearly the least likely outcome
It's not clear at all. I think you need to take a course in critical thinking actually. Judging by the non-Gray and non-Z and this being the first time since Bulbasaur that we have a dual typed first stage starter, it's not out of the question that GF would have surprises in store for us.

The denial would be if you really wanted Litten's line to be Fire/Dark (or just not mono Fire) or Rowlet's line to stay Grass/Flying.
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>>26309477
>but it's clearly the least likely outcome

Is this nigga serious? Rowlet becoming ground type is the most likely outcome by far. The order being how it is only further backs this up.
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>>26309677
>I don't know what Occams razor means
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>>26309733
If you're trolling your not being very subtle about it.
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>>26309792
>he thinks I gave a definition where I actually explained how it was relevant

Keep reaching.
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>Grass/Flying giant ass laid back owl. Hidden ability is Cloud Nine
>Fire/Ground volcanic circus tiger bomb motherfucker. Hidden ability is Drought
>Water/Fighting happy-go-lucky circus strongman seal, very animated, built in rain dance. Hidden ability is Drizzle

Cancer wars part 2: electric boogaloo
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>>26309816
Reaching for what? Your entire argument is circular reasoning.
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>>26309884
Reaching for a flaw. And it seems you don't know argumentation. It's not circular in the slightest. it stems from information actually attained.
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>>26309807
>Getting well and truly blown the fuck out by the rest of the thread
>STILL arguing and thinking you're right

Oh I am laffin'
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>>26309452
>5 examples
Onix
Gloom->Bellossom
Scyther
Surskit
Nincada
Swablu
Azurill
Skorupi
Fletchling
Skrelp

+ several Megas and Rotom forms
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>>26310006
Don't forget Ralts, since Psychic/Fairy becomes Psychic/Fighting.
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>>26309931
Your premise assumes the conclusion, its the definition of a circular argument.
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>>26310027
Lol what

My conclusion is drawn from information we actually received. My 'premise' is me stating the conclusion right away.

2 + 2 = ?

I didn't start with 4, I'm just saying 4 because that's what you get when you run through it.
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>>26310101
0/10
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>>26306064
That's not a burrowing owl, looks more like a great horned owl or an eagle owl
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>>26305618
Holy shit how underage are you?
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So grass/ground orderfag is the new Roothootfag, right?
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>>26310115
Pathetic.

>>26310207
Shut up, shitposter. One has actual basis in the real world.
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>>26310252
>Pathetic

Literally (You) right now
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>>26310281
>Oh no I ran out of arguments so I'm gonna use babby defense mechanisms like ratings, assuming he's trolling, and saying no u!
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>>26310289
Oh the irony
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>>26310252
>One has actual basis in the real world.
That's what all the starterleakfags said.
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>>26310006
I stand partially corrected, but 18 examples is still only 2.5%
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>>26310480
Learn what irony is and how to use it.

>>26310575
They never had proof so it was just talking shit.

>>26310615
It's a good percentage when you take into account we're only adding 1 money to it. Plus if you think about it we only had 18 starters.
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>>26310797
*mon
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So we all agree Rowlets evo will be Flying/Ground, right? Its the order on the website so its literally confirmed. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a shitposter.
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Anyone else translate and read the page? Litten seems pretty cool. It says that its hair is all covered in flammable oil, and it grooms itself and then uses its hairballs to attack. Interesting concept.
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>water/fighting popplio
I just picture it holding a jack in the box with Spring loaded boxing glove.
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>>26307632
>the initial design doesn't really speak Ground type to me
To me, it looks a lot like the tiny, adorable owls that burrow into the ground.

Alternatively, I think everyone's forgetting its description that mentions specifically its kicking attacks. Rowlet could be the fighting pokemon. Also, its name makes me think of when british people use the word "row" to mean argument or fight. Owlet having a row. Rowlet. Grass/Fighting confirmed.
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>>26310851
>flammable oil
Makes me think of fire eaters/fire dancers. Both are associated with the circus, and fire dancers are actually associated with Hawaii as well.
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>>26311121
Its clearly based on a barn owl though. If it were a burrowing owl, its description on the website would address its burrowing habits.
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