If Gen 7 is as crap as Gen 6, will you drop Pokemon?

SM might still redeem gen 6.

I basically already have.

Last game I bought was Heart Gold, and I couldn't even bring myself to finish it.

>>26194505
>Not liking HGSS
I'm glad you dropped out, tasteless faggot.

>Playing any game besides RSEFRLGDPPLHGSSBWBW2

>>26194505

>Not completing HeartGold

why are you even on /vp/

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I have played Pokemon ever since it dropped in the States. Ever since I was young. It taught me how to read. It taught me adventure. I can say, without a doubt, on everything, that the answer I can give you is....

Yes. Yes I would drop it. The power creep and the clear lack of giving a fuck in both X/Y and ORAS have caused me to have little interest in the series as a whole. When the DS servers went offline, I knew it was the start of something horrible. Now I see that I'm going to have to deal with even more terrible things. This company has one more shot. One more. If they don't bother fixing what they broke and adding in spitshine for 3 whole years, I'm letting it go just like I did with Paper Mario and moving back to Sonic, embracing Yakuza fulltime, and going to get into Animal Crossing again. I'm tired of bring jerked around and I want out.

>>26194504
Gen 6 is already over you fucking pleb.

Honestly, I don;t see myself completely dropping it but taking a break until it gets it's shit together. Or maybe realizing that I'm too old for it lmfao

>>26194555
Besides there not being a battle frontier I don't see any problems with oras

>>26194579
No it's not. SM is the last set of gen 6 games. I thought everyone knew this?

i liked gen 6, so no i wont drop if its about the same
especially since theres new pokemon

>>26194504
Nice bait


On topic: no. I won't play as much but I won't drop it.

>>26194599
It's the fact that after the DElta episode and legendary hunting, there's nothing else to keep it going.

>>26194603
Nice bigger bait, mate. 8/8

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>>26194599

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>>26194500
>If Gen 7 is as crap as Gen 6

>It's another 'my subjective opinion is fact' thread.

>>26194500
Even if it's absolute horse shit I'll probably keep playing. Guess I'm just too interested in seeing what GF pulls out of their asses.

>>26194611
>after finishing the POST game content and catching all the legendaries there's nothing to do
You mean like all the other Pokemon games?

No, because I'm not a pansy-ass who lets go of an entire series because of one or two bad seasons.

>>26194500
Well, that would still be better than gen 4 or 5, so I don't see why that would be an issue.

>>26194650
At least when I played B/W2 I had other options besides rechallenge the E4. I had the PWT, I had the Black Tower/White Treehollow, I had optional battles out the ass, it had such a big, expansive postgame that I'm wondering where the fuck the money for all that shit went. If they're saving it all for Sun/Moon it better be fantastic anon, just saying.

>>26194623
>Nitpick: The List
Nice meme, faggot

>>26194623
Half of the points there are
>game is too easy/dumbed down
Considering it's a game made and marketed towards children what did you expect?

No, I just won't be playing the games beyond beating Champion. Just the bare minimum to not be in the dark and be able to discuss the series. I'll be buying all new main Pokémon releases regardless of how bad they are, mostly out of obligation. I already have all the previous games, too late to stop now.

>>26194650
The post game here is very limited compared to HGSS, BW2, Platinum, and Emerald.

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>>26194668
>gen 6
>better than gens 4 and 5

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>>26194900
>oh no he's right
>better call it bait!
Based Sinnohfetus with no defense for his inexcusably shit generation.

>>26194536
let's have a special mention for yellow and crystal

>>26194913
>no defense
D/P, while slow as fuck, had a shitton more content than X/Y, and there was even Platinum to fix D/P's mistakes while
>LOL NO Z, KEEP ENJOYING OUR SHITTY ANIME GOYS
And same goes for HG/SS and OR/AS.

>>26194500
Well, probably. But I might pick up the remakes as they come along.

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>>26194500
I was super disappointed with XYORAS and think of them as the worst in the series, but I still wouldn't drop it. It would take something Other M-tier to make me drop the series. I can just pirate if the games are bad until then.

>>26194500
I won't drop out just because I love this franchise, but I'd probably hold off from buying new games straight away. Maybe 1 game a gen or so.

Suppose I can keep replaying the old games, there are enough to keep me going anyway.

>>26194500
I like the Pokemon themselves way too much just to quit it after all these years. Perhaps I'll just take a break from the games if S/M suck.

>>26194500
Wow good riddance you faggot, like we need here some whiny bitch who cannot enjoy any generation

>>26194500
Gen 6 is the second best gen though.

>>26195070
What would make Sun and Moon the Other-M of Pokemon, if you could imagine that.

>>26194500
good, fuck off.
and fuck off everyone like you

>>26194599
It's not just the lack of Frontier, but the fact that overall ORAS( while still being better than RS) is worse than Emerald. That is not acceptable

>>26195309
He means 6.5

>>26195150
This

also
(are you real? its weird as fuck to see someone in this hole that actually enjoy every generation)

>>26195333
Ah, makes sense now.

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Is pokemon can survive Gen 5, it can survive anything.

>>26194500
>not having already dropped it

You are not a child.

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>>26195361
>Is

>>26195270
Well, for starters, keep the same problems as Gen VI, lack of content and no difficulty whatsoever and too many forced handouts and handholding rivals who bug you every two seconds, etc.

Then it needs to do something super extreme, like removing Pokémon from the National Dex on the grounds of them not having as many fans as Lucario or Pikachu, or putting actual dating sim elements like FE Fates' facepetting. Something that just fundamentally shakes my sensibilities and makes me not want to play the game at all.

Gen VI are bad but I was able to squeeze enjoyment from it due to it being Pokémon. It would have to do something extremely awful, an addition that difficult to ignore or something that's just so nasty that it puts a horrible taste in your mouth even if it is possible to ignore it. The Exp. Share in Gen VI is a bit of the latter but it would take something of a much greater magnitude to make me drop it.

>>26194500
Hopefully after generation 6 finishes after sun and moon, gen 7 onwards will get better.

>>26194500
Yes and saying this make me sad.
XY being subpar could have been forgiven because of the transition to 3D models( or if we got Z), but ORAS has no excuse and I will never not be mad by the lack of Battle Frontier.
Gen 6 is bad and if SM are the same or inferior I will have to drop this franchise despite all the memories

>>26195330
>is worse than Emerald.
In your opinion

>>26195394
You know, desu, having social links like Persona would be interesting for character development, but yeah, Pokemon is definitely not for this stuff.

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>>26194500

Don't you know the pattern anon? Odd gens are always good, whereas even gens are always derivative, uninspired or just plain bad.

>>26195394
>dating sim elements like FE Fates' facepetting
aka Amie

>>26195309
>>26195333
>>26195358
>>26195406

Impecible meme, brothers. Truly ebic :^)
*upvotes fedora*

>>26195459
LIN STOP THREATENING TATSU AND EAT THE LITTLE SHIT ALREADY.

>>26195462
Right, but I'm talking with Pokégirls. Which I know would probably be GOTY to some neckbeards here, but not this neckbeard.

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>>26194500
X/Y wasn't THAT bad imo, and I think ORAS was great :)

If Gen 7 was bad, I probably wouldn't drop Pokémon anyways.

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OP here, back from my away time. Time to see what wonders this thread has spawned.

>>26195324

Go fuck yourself. No reason to act like a cunt over people abandoning a series that's been going downhill. If you want to defend Gen 6, go ahead, defend it with actual reasons.

>>26195361

This reply confuses me.

>>26194685

Some of them are nitpicks, some of them clearly aren't. Why act like an ass if everyone else agrees with it?

>>26194627

They are literally and objectively easier video games, as confirmed by the head director. They are easier by fact, therefore they're worse by default in that regard. The framerate problems, lack of 3D, and lack of new Pokemon are also objective issues with the game that can't be argued.

No Pokemon gen has had this many genuine problems before, so by default they fall low in the ranks.

>>26194664

>pansy-ass

WOAH SHIT LOOK HOW HARD YOU ARE

GRRR REAL MEN KEEP ON PLAYING A CHILDREN'S GAME THAT CONTINUES TO DISAPPOINT IT'S SECONDARY AUDIENCE WITH EASY DIFFICULTY!! REAL MANLINESS IS WHEN YOU PLAY SOMETHING THAT ISN'T FUN!

>>26195251

Too many problems to be second place. If it's your second favorite, then fair enough. But it objectively cannot be the second best.

>>26194500
Yeah I will, 100%.

There are only two video game purcahses that have ever given me buyer's remorse, the Wii U and ORAS. I genuinuely cannot imagine a worse Pokemon game than ORAS, but if gen 7 somehow manages it I'm done.

>>26194500
No.

I actually liked Gen 6. After Black I nearly gave up the series. Should probably get BW2 to see what all the hype was about

>>26195557

I don't regret my Wii U purchase, since Smash Bros Wii U is like the most time I've ever spent on a game, but my ORAS purchase just involved me beating the champion, feeling empty inside, and then giving up on Pokemon for a large period of time. Not nice.

>>26194500
>>26194505
>>26194555
>>26194982
>>26195417
>>26195546
>>26195557
>dropping
See you all in Gen 8 faggots, when you will be saying the same damn thing

>>26195459
But Gen 2 and 4 are the best. Gen 5/6 is the only pair where the odd Gen is better.

>>26194505
People who did not like HGSS could fuck right off. Get out of /vp/ while you're at it.

Gen 4 was the time I was really into pokemon. Looking back it's been pretty weird

>Got red version
>got gold version
>skipped the 3rd gen until years later when emerald version came out.
>got pearl version but skipped every other gen 4 game
>get black version, skipped black/white 2
>Just a few weeks ago got Pokemon x

>>26195611
Fair enough, Smash Bros. isn't my kind of game so... as for ORAS I beat the E4, beat Delta episode then traded the game back in. I don't think I've ever seen an RPG plot as bad as Delta Episode & Zinnia.

ORAS has soured me so badly on a series I've been enjoying since yellow; I'm legitimately scared for what they will do when they remake my favorite region.

>>26195478
No, he's not ready to eat yet
>>26195603
You should, bw2 redeem a lot and a nowhere as bad bw1 were

No. I've skipped Pokemon generations before, and then went back and played them. But I'll always play competitive on simulators. Its a fun game, no reason to ever stop playing.

>>26194500
I was a kid when RBY came out, loved it, then loved GSC even more. Thought 3 was full of shitty designs and I hated the split storyline, so I never finished it. Tried to like DPPt, but I just got so bored with it for some reason and didn't even get past four gyms before I put it down. *Loved* SoulSilver, and actually even replayed it after I beat it the first time, then I tried so hard to love Gen 5, because I really liked how they did the story, and loved the designs with a couple of exceptions, but that's normal. Still couldn't manage to finish it for the life of me.

XY got me playing pokemon again after a *long* hiatus, with nothing but hype for the (long overdue) transition to 3D. Ended up loving a bunch of new pokemon and had fun breeding, battling with friends again, all that good stuff. But then I realized how piss easy the game had been, and I was irritated that gym leaders only had 3 pokemon. It was pathetic. I snagged ORAS for like $20 total thanks to a sale and tried to play through those, but I hit the same fatigue. Everything was just too easy, even if I liked the look of the game and the pokemon.

I'm going to give SuMo a fair shake, hope that I like a lot of the new pokemon and that they improve on the gameplay a bit or at least offer a selectable difficulty. If it's as much of a pushover as XY? I'm out until they decide to do a console main series entry. I just don't have the time to sink into a game series that can't keep up with fan needs.

>>26194505
Go away.

>>26194683
>it had such a big, expansive postgame
Having two battle towers, legendaries and a short dungeon isn't "big, expansive postgame".
Come on.

>>26195546
>They are literally and objectively easier video games, as confirmed by the head director. They are easier by fact, therefore they're worse by default in that regard.
Gen V was also said to be made easier because people found fourth difficult, by the heads themselves.

>No Pokemon gen has had this many genuine problems before, so by default they fall low in the ranks
Hahaha.

>>26195766
Nigga, there were like thirty others things to do.
Managing that stupid mall ,whatever the fuck it was called.

>>26195743
>and I was irritated that gym leaders only had 3 pokemon
Was a decent post, but then this made me discard everything else.

>>26195786
Not postgame. Might as well count contests, managing the secret base and picking up decorations and flags then.

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The pacing in XY was fucking awful too.
It leads you to believe it's actually gonna be a good game. That only having 70 fucking pokemon went to something good.
The first little bit before the first gym and up to the second was so long and expansive, I had some hope. And then the rest of the game in done in 2 hours.

I thought Gen 6 did a lot of the series but it probably got bogged down with development of the 3D models of all the Pokemon. I'm hoping now that they are past this hurdle that Sun/Moon will be the game we are looking for to bring Pokemon back.

And also hard mode. Please give us multiple difficulties. I'm tired of easy gyms and elite four.

This is what you get for marketing the video game equivalent of trading cards as an RPG.

>>26195631
/thread

>>26195459
I really really like Lin.

>>26194500
>Gen 6 is bad le epic reddit meme
Can you fuck off back to your shit site you underaged fuck?

Gen 6 is objectively the best.

>>26195818
The fact that beating the second gym in XY takes as much as beating the sixth of other games shouldn't tell you there's something wrong with the other games, instead?

When did people start thinking Gen 6 was good? Is it contratarianism?

I could actually ignore gen 6's flaws if it had more than a fucking handful of pokemon.

>>26195546
The worst gen objectively is gen 1. There's really no real argument to be made. Yes, they were the first, but it doesn't exempt it from all the design flaws it had that every gen has improved upon. It succeeded in spite of such things as poor programming, bad balance, shit design decisions such as breaking TMs, and HMs in general, and general inexperience such as poor Pokemon placement and level up movesets that they'd come to refin eover time as they figured out what works. Many other examples can be given too, those were just the first to my mind replaying Res right now. I think the best thing it has is that it can be difficult but the difficulty comes from its flaws rather than legitimately difficulty 90% of the time. The random Raticate at Mt. moon and a little further can be legitimately tough as it's not something you prepare for like a gym leader and they show in the middle of the field, and the early game is tough in general but that reflects it's poor design more than being hard because your Pokemon are so shit and crits and misses are so much more common due to different mechanics.

>>26195854
XY doesn't take any longer than any of the other games. Most of the story content is crammed into the part of the game. The rest of the game speeds by so quickly.

>>26195858
From the beginning. Anyone that wasn't some underaged idiot knew it was the best, and your shit taste is completely irrelevant, reddit scum.

>>26195882
Give me your reasons you like it so much then.

>>26195818
I also don't understand why they went back to having the final fight with evil team before the last Gym. BW and BW2 showed how the story works better if you put the climax with the Legendary after getting all the badges

>>26195858
>contrarianism
Literally what you're doing.

>>26194505
I'm not gonna do like everyone else and tell you to leave, but I do question what you even want out of Pokemon if HGSS didn't have it.

>>26195818
I was actually surprised when I reached the 8th Gym, "Wow, I have 7 badges already?", the game just shifts into high speed after beating Korrina and feels empty and forgettable.

>>26195895
Not him, but I want an actual sense of purpose. Nothing in any of the other games has a reason behind it whatsoever.

>>26195631
This.

Faggots know they'll all buy this upcoming game, and the next. And the next. And even the next one.

>>26195908
Bullshit. I haven't played since BW. Unless this has some mindblowing mechanic or a storyline other than fight evil, win 8 badges, be champion; I won't waste my time.

>>26195931
Then leave /vp/ because that's all you're ever gonna get.

Stop shitposting on my board.

Sun and Moon could have 12 new pokemon and /vp/ would still defend it
>quality over quantity!
>we have enough pokemon already!

Pathetic.

>>26195953
>my board.

>>26195999
Yes, my board. Get off.

>>26195999
>implying it's not his board

>>26196004
Why do people here insist on behaving like children?

>>26196030
If you don't like it, fuck off. You stink of new.

>>26196030
>Doesn't play Pokemon
>shitposts on /vp/ instead
Literally get off my board. Not even memeing.

>>26196030
Because many of them are actual children.

>>26195743
Basically this.

No because I still did enjoy XY and loved ORAS

>>26196048
10/10 taste

>>26196039
Very easy to believe.

>>26196048
What the fuck was there to love about ORAS? All I can honestly think of is soaring and the ability to fly to non-cities.

>>26196117
Not him but dude it's a Pokemon game, they're all the same fucking minestra riproposed over and over. Pretty much all the Pokemon games have the same faults and the same strong points.

>>26196184
But what did ORAS bring that the others didn't?

>>26194500
NOTHING can redeem gen 6 in my eyes. so even if Gen 7 is bad, it'll still be better then gen 6.

The DS/3DS library is shit compared to the GBA/DS library. On top of that XYORAS have been the worst in the series (IMO).
After moon I'm fuggin' done even if they're good. I'm finally getting off Mr. Bone's wild ride. Feels good man.

>>26196224
Does it have to bring something new to be liked? BW didn't outside moving sprites and i liked it regardless.

If Gen 7 is as good as Gen 6 I'll probably keep on playing. Of course I'm expecting more, but honestly Gen 6 wasn't bad.

>>26196255
>DS/3DS to GBA/DS

How on earth does that work? GBA had its own contained gen. DS is gen 4 and 5. 3DS is 6.

>>26196266
Hey fuckface, you can play GBA on DS and you can play DS on 3DS. I was comparing the two by their collective playable libraries.

>>26196276
>Collective playable libraries

Doesn't work that way.

GBA is GBA, DS is DS, 3DS is 3DS. You can't sanction off the ones you like just because they're backwards compatible.

>>26196308
Yes I can because I can fucking chose to not keep buying Nintendo handhelds (if they come out at all)

Dropped pokemon like 6 years ago, its gone to total shit and it aint redeeming itself, ever. I said this as a youngling when I had a gameboy and Im saying it now, they are pushing out too many fucking games and they will/have ran out of ideas.

>>26196334
K I L L Y O U R S E L F E N O W

What are you doing on /vp/?

>>26194500
that's my intent

>>26196379
>waah

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>>26195546
>abandoning a series that's been going downhill

TOP KEK
Why are you still here? go on, no one is stopping you, leave. go play Yokai Watch and claim is the "successor of pokemon"
you're a just another whiny little pussy bitch from 4chan

Pokemon is NOT for you (but you belong here)

suming up...


F U C K O F F
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>>26194505

>Im shit and my taste is shit so I'll spend my life bitching about games I hate on a board about the game I hate even though I havent played the games for years

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>>26194555
>moving back to Sonic

That's like moving from a hospice to a graveyard.

>>26194500
Yes. I already dropped Gen 6 and my hopes for S&M aren't exactly high. If they can get away with releasing shit like ORAS then they can get away with anything.

>>26194500
Yes.

>>26194500
Rain Dance+Water Gen was the real cancer, yet you people cry about fucking Gen 6?

No. Unless they drastically change the format or make truly unhackable consoles, I'll probably always keep playing. Will probably hack the game first though.

>>26195853
You realize you use the word "objectively" the same as tumblr uses the word "literally", right?

>>26196881
>implying

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>>26194500
Honestly senpai? I'm considering it.

It just feels hollow anymore. Every game's had its share of problems and disappointments, but it's like GameFreak don't even know what people want at this point. They put so much work into things I do appreciate, little touches like the ORAS intro and stuff, but they completely neglect the actual substance of the game itself.

The engine can't hold a framerate (because of the bizarrely high poly-count in the pokemon models, what the fuck were they thinking,) the battles are easier than they've ever been (and yeah, I know this is Pokemon and not Dark Souls, but the motherfucking E4 only had four Pokemon, come on man,) the postgame is a single island and a subplot, the plot proper was written on lsd and paced on speed, and there's not even gonna be a third version to fix the issues ala Platinum -- and that's just XY, which I at least found things to like about.

ORAS just killed my enthusiasm. I want to like it so much, I sit there and try to play it, I appreciate a lot of the things they did to make the game visually appealing and to make things fresh. But then I start getting tired because of what could have been, because there's so much missing. There's a level of care and detail that's just ABSENT anymore, in addition to the lack of challenge and all the other little gripes I have and could ordinarily live with.

That said -- I'm here, aren't I? I'll probably continue to be here unless they do something monumentally shitty, like microtransaction Pokeballs or something (which I'm fully expecting from Pokemon Go honestly.)

I just want Sun/Moon to be good. I just really, really want S/M to be good, because the series can zombie on forever, but I'd rather it be put out of its misery than left to die a slow death like this. I feel like if they fuck this up, they're too far gone.

TL;DR S/M is my last hope.

>>26197119
Woah. Nope
Not reading your bio

>>26197133
Yeah I know, I was a stupid fuck and accidentally typed senpai instead of "fampai" in addition to typing a TL;DR, I don't blame you for not reading it, but it felt good to vent.

>>26194536
RS and DP are dogshit compared to third versions. BW isn't bad, but only worth playing once for the story really.
>>26194936
This. As broken as their gameplay was, it was pretty unique and worth trying out.

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>>26196030
>a board for a childrens game
>not expecting actual children and manchildren to inhabit it
Holy shit are you for real?

>>26194900
An opinion on a discussion is bait.

You're the one baiting.

>>26195858
Is it wrong for people to enjoy a game?

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>>26197284

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>>26197284
sauce for that?

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>>26197490
w h a t i s g o o g l e r e v e r s e s e a r c h?

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>>26197481

>>26194720
Yeah it's pretty silly considering the series was never hard to begin with outside of bullshit like Battle Tower/Frontier.

>>26194505
>can't even delete phone numbers like in the originals
>can't get a waterstone from tully and then just delete his number afterwards
>instead your stuck being constantly interrupted by being called by people you can't get rid of
Yeah, HGSS was a pretty stupid remake. Not to mention that awful gen4 engine it used. Honestly, I don't get why you'd bother with it over the originals at all. I'd take black&white over HGSS any day too.

>>26194603
Fuck you seriously fuck you.

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The only thing I disliked from XY was that it only had 70 new Pokemon. I guess they didn't have enough time/resources to make more due to all the megas they made as well as making everything with 3D models. Other than that, I loved it.

ORAS on the other hand was complete and utter shit, the only good thing was the delta episode, which could have just been put in XY instead. It was literally copy and paste into 3D and once again showed that Hoenn really is the worst gen.

I have high hopes for SM. All I want is 150 new Pokemon, a new gimmick similar to megas to shake up the meta a bit(hopefully fusion or new TCG with NFC chips in them for 3DS, NX, mobile Pokemon games), and connectivity with Pokemon Go. SM has the potential to blur the boundaries between mobile and handheld gaming, which could serve as a good model for Nintendo's future software titles.