How could we buff Water Shuriken to make it a viable move?

>>26188081
>Buffin greninja

Are you really that retarded?

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>>26188081
you don't need to, you just need to give it to Pokemon that would actually use it. It would be fuckin' nuts on Cloyster for instance.

Give it to Cloyster :^)

>>26188081
Water Shuriken needs a Skill Link user

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>>26188081
More?

Cloyster

>>26188102
It's less about Greninja and more about her signature move.

>>26188081
Give Greninja 15 more Atk and S.Atk and 20 more Speed.

>>26188081
Give it to Heracross.

>>26188081
Make it deal 6 damage counters instead of 3, and call it Giant Water Shuriken.

>>26188117
>>26188118
>>26188350
>>26189445
Autism.

It's a good move. It's just not good on greninja.

There's a lot of skill link bivalves that would love the move.

>>26189431
>her

>>26188081
Considering it's a priority move with either 30, 45, 60 or 75 BP, I'd say it is fine. There's just no reason to run it on fast as shit special attackers.

>>26189473
Why is it autistic to know that giving it to Cloyster would greatly increase its usefulness?

Cloyster is tailor-made to use it.

Nincada should get it tbqh lads

I say it doesn't need buffing at all.

it's a priority multi-hit move so it's already dealing more damage than its cousins like bullet punch or ice shard with just 2 hits, any more is just icing on the cake.

The reason why it's not used all that often is because Greninja already has that fantastic 122 speed, so he's less dependent on priority than, say, Mamoswine or Conkeldurr.

>>26189606
I mean if Accelgor gets it, sure, why not.

Not sure how much use it would get, but sure.

>>26188081
Ash-Greninja is the answer.

>>26188081
make it special instead of physical

>>26188081
Give it to a good user.

>>26188081
Give Greninja Skill Link

>>26188117
>>26188118
>>26188350
This

>>26189591
>would greatly increase its usefulness?
too bad Cloyster has nothing to do with ninjas so it's never going to get it

>>26193997
It can already do ninja things like shoot spikes and have a face cloaked in shadows