/heg/—Hacking & Essentials General

>>26082681
a move tutor

>>26083278
I've seen move tutors in hacks.

>>26083282
where? hacking and already existing move tutor doesn't count.
i know we're jut bumping at this point

>>26083301
The only Gen that doesn't have existing move tutors is Gen 1, and I know Red++ has that as a future feature.

>>26083304
you're right. are there any gen 2 hacks with move tutors? i need to know that because of reasons

>>26083397
They're in vanilla Crystal, a man who can teach your Pokémon Flamethrower/Ice Beam/Thunderbolt.

If you're specifically looking for a hack that adds new moves, TPP Crystal Anniversary added the elemental punches as tutor moves.

Are there any hacks where Mew learns Crabhammer?

>>26082681
The two cities and connecting route look like a guy jerkin it

>>26083536
Nah, he's flipping pancakes where the bottom city is the pan

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Let's have another one of these.
Variations welcome.

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>>26084202
Here's mine.
It's not done yet

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>>26084202
ayy

>>26082681
Is this going to be a romhack or essentials shit? Has anyone made dive work in gentoo?

>>26085573
I haven't seen it done in Gen 2 but I have seen it done in Gen 1, Maize specifically. It doesn't seem like it'd be that hard to pull off if you knew assembly, you'd need to create a new tile with a function that takes you to a new map (the dive map specifically) if you use Dive. You'd probably want to make the above-water and underwater 1:1 in size so you can keep the coordinates instead of needing to create new code to determine where on the underwater map you'd spawn.

Also would need a way to have water tiles that don't cause wild encounters and tiles that do; you might be able to cheese it and treat the map as a land map if you do something to keep your sprite as the Surf sprite.

This is just me theorizing, by the way, I'm pretty shit at assembly coding.

>>26082681
A Move invigilator
Basically if a pokemon knows an egg move, TM or some other move that's also compatible with your other pokemon, this NPC can make this mon teach that pokemon the move. Makes raising shitmons that learn good moves early worthwhile

HMs only requiring you have compatible pokemon to use them on the field, so you still need the pokemon but don't have to clog up the moveset.

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>>26084202
Red is what should stay.
Blue is what I need to fix.
Green I want to fix.

hump

Petition to change /heg/ to /hub/ - Hurry Up And Bump

So how/where did everyone learn to script?

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Someone on /vr/ is making a romhack game. I never see it on /vp/ so here you go.

>>26088916
>ROOTHOOT AT THE BOTTOM
ABSOLUTELY BLESSED

>>26088703
I've just been looking at other script and copying their style.

bumping for great justice

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>>26084202
Here's mine

>>26088916
Oh my fuck is that Sonichu in there?

>>26088916
I would train the fuck out of sabitsuki.
That's a great idea for unknown as well.

I'm wanting to play a GBA hack that's
>challenging but not impossible
>has different pokemon on routes

It doesn't have to be amazing just something to occupy me. Also I don't want to play someones OC donut steal either

>>26090246
That's Urotsuki. I think she evolves INTO Sabitsuki.

Anybody here with experience using SDSME? I want to start remaking the other gens using Gen 5's base engine.

>>26084202
>Dual screens
Like what?

>8 gym storyline
Any ROM hack that didn't do this besides that one Team Rocket ROM hack in Gen I?

heya heg here's some trees i made and a kangaskhan too! please use them; if i get bored studying i might take requests

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>>26091148
Okay thanks.

>>26091148
as it happens i can't post images to 4chan it just says error upload failed

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>>26084202
Red is stuff I want to do, blue is stuff I'm afraid might make it in. I like to think I'll notice any glaringly major bugs

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>>26091148
test

>>26088916
pepsiman buff when?

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>>26090827
>that one Team Rocket ROM hack in Gen 1?

If you're talking about pic it definitely has an eight-Gym storyline, they just refluff Gyms as being owned by the police which is why you're attacking them. The game is just a rearranged Red, like most early Gen 1 hacks.

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here you go use these trees

bump before bed

>>26092765
Pomf~

Boomp

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>Pokémon Prism will never ever be finished

Okay so I need some really quick feedback (I mean it's not urgent but the response I'm looking for is likely short).

Which of these two lead instruments sound better for this song, the first or second?

https://soundcloud.com/mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm-1/evergrandetestwav

I only just started the transposition but I find I can't at all get a sound that resembles the original. These are the two I've decided are closest regarding tone, octave, etc, and I want to hear which is better, or if there's some third suggestion by anyone who's knowledgeable with Gen 2 audio.

>>26088916
>sackboy
>that green bubble
Oh fuck off. God damn it /v/

>>26094992
Definitely the second. They both work, but the second lead is easier on the ears.

15 minute break bump

>>26084202
Dual screens?

>>26088916
I love the large variation in games here.

>>26091951
nice famalam

Lunch break bump

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Forgot backsprites

All of these sprites are free to use for anyone that wants to do a romhack as well by the way. I'm just using them first.

>>26090513
Gaia matey

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>>26084202
Kanto Roads checking in.
Blue is what I'll probably have.
Red is whatever is present in the outdated demo.
Some explanation: Edginess is in the whole WAR backstory.
Ditto is a failed Mew clone, and Missingno is present as a cosmic horror.
"Getting caught was part of my plan!"
Professor Amber
Showcase Demo 0.1
Buffs to shitmons like Drayano does (it's the only way, damn it!)
Myself as the demo's final trainer with my test team.
And many more.

>>26090513
Just use a randomizer. Shit will keep you on your toes.

>>26100005
isn't Gaia incomplete

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Rate my town. Might look a bit weird, but its supposed to be an oasis in the dessert. Also I wanted to give it a mexican flower festival vibe for comfyness.

>>26100372
2/5 forgettable. Do you get an HM or HM allowing badge in there that allows you to pass a prior obstacle to progress further in another direction outside the town, or is this like the final gym?

>>26100372
Looks nice. More detail than the base games and a good pixel over of the HGSS assets.

>>26100372
It could use access to the waterfront.

>>26100763
If the water doesn't go anywhere not really. Lots of towns that are on high cliffs.

>>26100825
An oasis doesn't have to go anywhere, everyone comes there. Paths around it, caverns, an underground stream, a nomadic village on the other side, there's plenty to do with it.

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Is the map to big?

>>26101504
No such thing

>>26101517
Good. I'm at least trying to keep connections between them so you don't have to rely so heavily on fly. There is 16 gyms so hard to make it any smaller.

>>26101517
t. Lumiose City designer

>>26088916
is there a playable version out there, i really want to play with Cranky Kong and Earthworm Jim

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>>26101720
There is a demo but it only has the first few mons and it only goes to Violet City.

Here's a more accurate sprite sheet. The memes are all optional.

>>26102414
>that Lucina
You know what you have to do. Make a Marth that is pretty much identical, but with all of the stats being 10-15 points higher because he is better

>>26102414
That shadow looks like Godzilla.

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>>26102414
>someone sprited flower horse

Ded thred

>>26103672
Maybe we should take a break before making the next one if half the posts in this thread are bumps.

>>26103686
>>26103672
Maybe we all had more important things to do during the last few days.
For me, it's the last day of finals week, so I've been pretty tied up between that and moving the gf out.

Also bump.

>>26082681
>)
as of late ive seen some great rom hacks
legends of the arena
rejuvination
are just 2 of some really impressive hacks people need to start looking at these

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>>26104289
>Rejuvenation
>great

>>26102414
can I make on, anon?

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map fits! i have it on a grid in gimp too so I know how big to make them so they fit nice and snug. Time to start finally creating polished up routes.

>>26104350
Not him but I think he had a list of planned characters, I could search the /vr/ archives to try to find it for you. He's accepted sprites in the past so he probably would for you.

>>26104394
is this panama

>>26101504
Tell me more about this Elect(rical?) Forest.

>>26104512
Southwestern US and upper Mexico. The west coast is California with gold rush era motifs. South is some Mojave desert and Mexican colorful villa. North is Colorado. Middle is New Mex and Arizona, east and big city is Texas.

>>26104599
Has all the Pikachu clones in the forest, which are attracted by the pretty windmills, thus people are able to gather their electric energy by drawing them in. There's a guy living there with a don quixote reference. Sort of a renewable energy experimentation forest, where they try to utilize the natural energy of Pokemon.

>>26104722
Champion/Evil Team Leader better be a Donald Trump lookalike who you can either join or fight in building a wall

>>26104770
>>26104722
>>26104394
this seems really cool, and you seem like you know what you're doing. I hope this eventually becomes playable

>>26104350
Yes you may.

Here's the list. Make one that doesn't have an asterisk on it.
http://pastebin.com/JRXwwenK

Front sprites are 56 by 56 pixels, backsprites are 48 x 48, they each use two colors plus black and white. Anymore and the sprite won't work.

Go nuts.

Any of you guys can help as well.

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>>26104829
Lol, no evil team yet, but theres totally a walled garden city thats essentially this.
>>26104839
Hoping to get it in working order over the summer. Got a ton of finals around the bend now so really havent done much in terms of art and programming it. My job has lots of sit down time so I've been able to get most of the behind the scenes stuff done, like updating movepools and typings, adding new material, and general planning.

>>26102414

>that weasel fakemon

still hurts

>>26102414
Do I see Godzilla there at the bottom?

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>>26105344
yes you do

>>26082681
What is this hack of presumably R/S on a GBC called?

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>>26105433
The anon who made that only posted it a couple days ago, I think they're just starting.

I still think they could do good by sticking more accurately to the source maps, like that demo of an Gen 2 Emerald from a few years ago (don't look it up unless maybe you're the anon working on the new one and want to use the old one as reference as what to do/not to do, since it was pretty bad; just look at the awful color palette here).

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>>26094992
>>26094992
>>26094992

How did you make this? I'm curious to know what tools you can use to emulate this kind of sound

>>26105819
I write out the music in Gen 2's audio notation then compile it with the pokecrystal disassembly. I don't use any tools; I tried using a tool that turns MIDI into assembly code but it was written in a different style than the disassembly's audio so I just do it by hand.

Example:
http://pastebin.com/pVtgJivC

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rump bump

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Keksandra

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>>26106917
Are you gonna do something from sage as well? Please do. Sage is ded.

>>26103686
This

>>26104227
This too. I've had more hours at work lately than ever on top of six abandoned kittens that can't feed themselves and the 10 mile round trip bike rides to school for registration and etc.
I don't know what sleep is anymore. >>26104722
>>26104770
I love it. Southwest rules.

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Several days of work here and there on this map have finally brought a workable draft into fruition. The first draft I found to be unnecessarily long and pointless, but with the help of /heg/ I've created a large map with focus.
Red are trainers, yellow is item, blue is event.
The event is a Team Rocket shakedown of the Old Rod giving Fishing Guru that the player has to stop. It essentially kicks off the TR plot.
The cave was initially to hold a Regi, but I've pared the legendaries down from 20 to 5; it's just better that way. Instead it'll be a Fire Cave.
A few more interiors and I'll be ready to move on to Celadon-Vermillion part of the mapping process.

>>26108153
what place is this exactly

>>26108153
don't make those zigzag shorelines. shorelines shoul be square - at least two tiles long and tall. that being said, i don't think that what you've made looks bad at all. see >>26091951
for a smaller variation of the tree you're using, which you can use to replace the circular hedges or spruce the map up (no pun intended)

>>26108153
I like it, but it's sort of colorless.
Maybe add some flowers?

>>26108156
A lake accessible from Viridian that also goes to Route 2.
>>26108249
I think squaring the shorlines would make the lake too blocky. Also not keen on inserting new tree tiles because they might look out of place overall. Circular hedges were just placeholders.
>>26108289
I agree. It'll be cleaned up a little and flower'd up by the time anyone can play around in it.

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>>26106508
>8

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>>26108435
>Bird posting
Oh boy!

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>Sandstormy weather
>Wild mons with Sand veil and Arena trap
>Narrow cactus maze

Did I succeed in making one of the most annoying routes ever?

>>26108525
Add sand currents or pitfalls that drop you to a lower dungeon with a one-way exit

>>26108550
Good idea, but I feel like it'll be even more cramped
I'll definitely make use of this in another route though

>>26108525
If you want to make it even more annoying you could clutter it up with useless HM obstacles; maybe Rock Smash rocks or some cacti you can cut down.

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>>26108397
i made this one to not look out of place. larger tree for comparison in case you want to use it

>>26104770
guy who asked here. Love the concept. And now I'm curious about any other lore you might have associated to places in your map.

I mean more than half the maps & hacks in these threads will never see the light of day, but ideas like these are cool to banter about.

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What do people listen to while mapping/hacking/game making?

>>26109027
My taste in music is heavily influenced by the Tony Hawk series.

>>26109027
At the moment, Kdot.

>>26109027
In general with anything, DnB goes great with me, especially Liquid DnB. fucking chillout
if not then spacesynth or Touhou arrangements/remixes

>>26108444
Fuck off

>>26109027
post-hardcore, math rock and post-rock
le pretentious faec

>>26109027
I have a small Netflix window open while mapping: currently on season 3 of Deep Space Nine, finished Hell on Wheels twice, Breaking Bad once, Better Call Saul twice, the Office twice, and ran through Trailer Park Boys once since starting this project.

>>26109980
The Office twice? Isn't like 9 seasons long?!

>>26110030
He's probably British, m8.

>>26110030
Yes, but this was when work was giving me few hours and I had alot of free time.

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it doesn't work guys

>>26110480
I don't think I've run into that error, actually. You should ask the guy who made it, he's usually on the pret IRC.

>>26110684
thank you

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allright guys, I've never done any programming before, but I've always, always wanted to make a videogame. and with all the resources here i kinda think i might be able to do it albeit as a pokemon rom hack. Anything the OP doesn't mention that i should know getting in?

aside from the fact it's going to be a ton of work.

>>26111464
When I first got into rom editing 5 years ago, i started mapping
You should too, since Advance map is one of the most basic tools for hacking the gen 3 games
Also, you should either use Firered or Emerald, as all research has been done on these games.
This is assuming you're going to hack gen 3. I dont know shit about the other gens.

>>26111537
well yeah of course. from what I've read, with all the tools we have now I could basically take fire red and recreate x&y but in 2d if i wanted to, so no real point in making things harder on myself

Bumping for authenticity

>tfw still can't get crowdmap working
i have too many ideas for maps for johto
god someone kill me already

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>>26112116
i would but i don't have a gun.

>>26112152
you know you can kill someone without a gun right? stupid americans

>>26083536
It looks like Pearl.

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>>26099300
>dat Sackboy

the people on the irc are the most helpful people on the face of this earth

Noob question for Rpg maker/essentials:
Can you customize opposing trainers'
Pokemon Ivs and Evs? Can I give The Pokemon League Champion, say, a Lucario Adamant with ct attack and speed Ivs and 252 Atk and Speed Evs??

>>26113724
Yup! I believe if you go to defining trainer on the wiki it'll show you how.

>>26108153
make the coast end when the mountain starts and make the cave a water cave

>>26108525
this is so ugly, stop spamming decorations

Bumparoonie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uo8Zjsbsw0s
It begins.

>>26108525
Not quite; repels should take care of the encounters. I'd suggest foregoing the DUDE SANDSTORMS LMAO motif in favor of extreme sunlight-it is a desert, after all-but that's just me. The maze is pretty straightforward with benefit of seeing the entire map at once, I'm sure it'll frustrate some players though. Too much encounter tiles though, needs occasional breaks-ESPECIALLY with arena trapped mons.
All in all a solid map; another couple passes at it should finish her up!

>>26116089
I think you misspelled that capitalized text. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2HQaBWziYvY

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>>26084202
>Custom PokeNav
PokeFetch - Turning it on allows you to send one pokemon out into the wild to look for a certain kind of item, to return later. May return with a Pokemon.
>Minor glitches
I consider everything about Essentials to be glitchy.
>Items replace HMs
Sort of... HMs aren't moves, just natural abilities. Pokemon with wings and big enough bodies can use a Fly effect, water Pokemon can help you Dive, etc.
>Art style clashes
Gen V tiles cuz the colors are gorgeous.
>Fakemon
Of course.
>Fake add-ons
A beheeyem evolution, new moves, etc
>Team
Team Quasar
>Fan theories
Minor stuff, like Zubat being related to Aerodactyl
>Battle frontier clone
No items, one pokemon at a time, defeat a boss to earn another pokemon on your team
>Edginess
A bit of Evangelion meets Pokemon
>Maps are too large
I love big adventures.
>Eight gym storyline
Yes, of course. Ghost, water, flying, fairy, grass, dark, electric, fighting.

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>>26116465
Now do a Rato sprite

>>26116010
What's in the .CRO files other than the gift Pokémon? Most of the data tables are in other parts of the ROM, I assume there's some important stuff in them?

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>>26084202
So far... So good?

>>26116521
TELL ME MORE

also it'd be cool if you had a dinosaur fakemon that evolved into a bird

>>26117826
As long as you haven't made huuuuge bst changes, or changed the typing of shit, your hack sounds like it'll be solid. Well done

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Bumping with a WIP. I'm not feeling it, honestly, and I really need some criticism on what to mix up to try to improve it.

https://soundcloud.com/mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm-1/evergrandecitywip

Bumping creatively

does anybody know anything about scripting in gen II? i wold love to add a move relearner 2bh

>>26117173
Starters, gift mons and type matchups, for now.

>>26118474
Sounds nice, but I'm missing what melody that the tubular bells made. That's only me though.

I was trying to implement Tough Claws into Essentials, but the wiki doesn't tell me how. Could someone please help?

>>26118272
the only changes i've made so far are turning the hidden abilities into alternative abilities, and changing the color scheme of a few shinies.

>>26119644
The latest version of Essentials already has Tough Claws.

>>26119667
Does it? I'm using 16.1 and couldn't find the ability in the PBS file...

>>26119697
you need to get the gen 6 pbs stuff separately for whatever retarded reason. look on pokecommunity for it.

Is there any Kanto Battle Frontier hacks out there?

Repurposing native maps for convenience bump

This thread will die today bump. Maybe we should wait a bit until the next one bump. Fucking leak season bump.

>>26121188
why are you making this general if you have to constantly bump it like a faggot. Just let it die and have an occasional discussion every once in a while.

>>26121192
because it's helpful to have this going around.
maybe we should have a sticky, like /mu/ and /int/ do

>>26083533
B-but it can learn it.The Pokedex says so.

>>26122024
Keep that cancer out of these threads

>>26121192
>implying
I haven't made a /heg/ in two threads, >>26121248
This would probably be better than having to resurrect it every other day.

>>26119776
Does this count?

http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=317980

>>26121192
I kind of agree, but at the same time I like being able to stay in a thread free of owlshit when the spam gets too bad. Maybe after the next Corocoro we can have a break if they finally reveal the real starters.

>>26121248
A sticky sounds dumb though, we'd get shitposted to hell and back.

>>26106508
fuck of Nazi.

>>26123339
T rating.

>>26119542
Yeah, I ended up leaving those out for this section of the song on purpose.

It's all subjective and I've seen people making Gen 2 music where they try to squeeze in as much of the original song as possible so some people definitely like it, but I think if you try to switch between different parts of a song too quickly you create something cluttered and the switching ends up being distracted. To give an example that's really jarring to me, look at FroggiestSpirit's Route 203 cover; not the one on Youtube because that one's not bad at all, but the revised version you can find on the current version of CrystalComplete. There's some nasty-sounding shit going on with the bassline in a couple spots because the composer tries squeezing two things in at once, thinking they could fit together. And, while they technically do squeeze in together, the sudden jarring beeps rapidly going in and out give the channel no room to breathe and it just sounds bad. No offense to FroggiestSpirit of course, I like a lot of his other covers.

Another example would be a lot of the TCG2 ports in the aforementioned CrystalComplete (and some of the TCG1 ports but it's more common with 2). GR Normal Duel is a particularly terrible one, which is a shame because the original theme is fantastic for something on the Game Boy. Just listen to this shit it's great
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPl-ns-yIUE
However, they tried adding more layers and thicker chords when the person porting the TCG2 songs got to it, and the end result is fucking atrocious, it's just one giant cacophany. It's a really extreme example but I really suggest looking at those two songs on the CrystalComplete ROM to get an idea of what I'm talking about.

[1/2]

>>26123502
[2/2]

While this isn't nearly as extreme as that second example and more on par with the first, the bells go in and out a lot in the first half of the song while the background harmony stays constant. To try to switch them would be jarring, and the bells on their own wouldn't hold up the song enough, so I chose to forgo them in that specific section. The trumpet, on the other hand, only has a one very short lull and moves the song forward much more than the bells, so it wasn't any issue putting it in as the main attraction on that sound channel and forgoing the background.

The second half of the song, fortunately, does have more open opportunities to put the bells in, since there are several sections where there are only three melodic parts total including the bells, so I'll definitely be able to make use of them without cluttering the song. It probably sounds silly that I always simultaneously worry about sounding cluttered and sounding empty, but they aren't necessarily mutually exclusive; you can have a song with too many things going on at once but not enough meaningful movement to make you hooked on the song. There's probably better terminology I could use to try to convey what I mean but whatever.

I apologize for the textwall, I intended this to be a short explanation and I ended up feeling the need to go into detail on why I have the feelings instead of sounding like I was just dismissing the criticism.

>>26123502
>>26123508
Yeah I see. Well, I'm no expert on GB music and its channel limits, don't even know if it has 3, 4 or whatever.

>>26123426
She's still a Nazi.

>>26123583
Well, at least she's not your dog
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYslEzHbpus

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DEE
OH
GEE
EH
AR
ES

>>26123547
It has two square channels, one wave channel (so three melodic channels), and one noise (percussion) channel, so you end up using three or four depending on whether your song has percussion.

>>26118474
>https://soundcloud.com/mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm-1/evergrandecitywip
in the middle section you need to bring out the bass a bit more. it needs to have a sharper waveform

>>26123583
Since when? I thought she was Tumblr the Waifu.

>>26123912
Since she became the mascot of the unholy union between /v/ and /pol/.

>>26123583
>hurr nazis were bad
If the Nazis had won, you would be saying the Allies were bad

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>>26124013

>>26102414
link should evolve into adult link during day being normal/fighting
or shadow link at night being
dark/fighting
also needs more ps classics. like spyro and crash.

>>26101504
its only "too big" if its all empty. make sure it all has stuff in it and things to do to make it all worth.

>>26125967
http://pastebin.com/JRXwwenK

I got Meme Sapphire (Lewd Edition) and there seem to be some departures from what I read about Star Sapphire.

Does anyone know where/if there's a list of what separates Meme Sapphire from Star Sapphire?

>>26126035
Meme Sapphire is a splice between Sinking Sapphire's Pokémon stats and wild Pokémon and Star Sapphire's trainers.

>>26123909
I changed the waveform (and slightly increased the volume of the other channels to compensate since waveforms are very rigid in volume options).

https://soundcloud.com/mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm-1/ever-grande-city-gbc-8-bit-wip-2

Does this sound any better?

optimistic bump

Fun fact: keeping perspective mode on 0 for normal drastically increases performance.
Game is running near full frames even when running and biking. I was even able to keep some of the terrain sound effects

>>26128766
Gee, that IS fun!

>>26125093
History is written by the victors. If the Nazis won, textbooks would depict the Allies as rebels trying to retard the evolution of mankind.
I'm no Nazi sympathizer, but chances are you only hate the Nazis because you were taught to hate them. I bet you think they even referred to themselves as Nazis.

>>26128847
ok and is ur hack on firered or emerald

>>26128847
hundreds of years later people would've found out about death camps and would've seen the nazis as a retarded copy of the romans

>>26128847
Dude shut up, this is no place for that kind of discussion. Go jack off to your nonsense somewhere else.

>>26104394
>Larkspur Town
I'm assuming that's Colorado area, I used to live in a town called Larkspur. It's all trees and outdoors stuff.

>>26107448
sage is fucking shit

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>>26128856
>>26128923
>>26129035
Alright alright. I'll stay on-topic.

Okay so I'm making a fangame from scratch. I'm using RPG Maker VX Ace because I don't want to deal with any hardware limitations or the "It's made in Essentials so it's automatically bad/edgy" meme.
It's going to play more like a traditional JRPG or a Dungeon Crawler than an actual pokemon game. I plan to use 100% custom sprites and original music. The region is going to be a wintery metropolitan area with various environments in the outskirts.

Anyways, I have the capture mechanic already completed. Now I'm working on overworld navigation. You won't be grid-locked, not even in buildings or in dungeons. Instead of Fly you'll have to rely on warp points in the form of a taxi service. From the hub, the taxi will take you to any town or dungeon you've already visited, but from anywhere else it'll just take you back to the hub.

VX doesn't have layers so I'm using a parallax mapping trick to design the overworlds without the use of a tileset. I can't figure out how to make buildings and the like overlap the player, so I'll just make the entire building a solid object for the time being. There is a layered parallax script that I want to use, but it's written in broken English, so it'll take time for me to reassemble it.

I wanted to post a pic of the collision maps, but for whatever reason I can only show the character hitboxes.

Sheesh. You guys nag me to stay on topic then you won't even continue the discussion. What a waste.

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>>26114579
Nope. Made up my mind. It's a spur off the Diglett Cave.
I am going to do water stuff for the Pewter Caves-probably repurposing the Cerulean Cave since Mewtwo will be somewhere more remote.
Pic is WIP to show connections. Might make the cave about half size smaller, I don't intend to include too much content in there more than some early fire and cave types. Used the first level of Cerulean Cave as a template and modeled it after the Violet side of Dark Cave in GSC a little.
>>26108810
I like your tree tiles, don't get me wrong, I just think the native trees are fine for now.

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>>26129148
I'm doing sprites for both Clover and Sage. Just one each though.

Don't care if they're shit, they're part of /vp/.

>>26129314
Looks really cool desu

>>26108810
I like this. The default FRLG small tree looks really out of place no matter how it's used.

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Rate/Hate my starting town.

Its my first map and I'll admit it just looks like I rearranged Pallet Town.

>>26131835
nothing to comment on, it's literally pallet town

>>26131835
upside-down palette town/10

>>26131835
needs more stuff

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>>26131835
Less square. Start with square as a skeleton and then add variation.

On another note, anyone have an idea of how to make an item like eviolite that's for first stage evos of a three tier family? Something that makes them worthwhile?

>>26131835
Low effort bait/10
But just in case you're serious?
It's shit. Add another building, expand the map, a park, a wood, a pond, literally anything other than the shit you just made. A fucking Pokemart would set it apart from being upside down Pallet Town. Jesus Christ died for nothing if this is the best you can do, anon.

>>26132100
you could just make light ball work on pichu too, that's what i'm doing for my hack

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>>26132243
Well I mean all 1st tier pokemon, like starters and stuff too. Right now, theres no reason to use a bulbasaur over an ivysaur with eviolite. I want to make an item that would make bulbasaur about as viable as ivysaur.

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Editing some existing rpgmaker tilesets to fit within the color scheme and style of pokemon. Not quite happy with that curtain though.

>>26132456
give them an item that gives all prankster. they're not as bulky, so speedy but fragile as to be your answer

>>26133767

I like this idea.

>>26133767
Genius. How would I go about making them for 1st tier only? Maybe make a new definition in the pokemon file?

>>26133845
do it for the egg results. understand what i mean? my english is terrible, i know. but i'm sure the mons that are supposed to come out of eggs when breeding must be listed somewhere

>>26133199
It looks to me like they drew large sprites an simply shrunk them.

wew lade

>>26134285
The top left three are the ones I've edited so far. Just going in with a 2 pixel pencil and keeping to frlg color scheme.

>>26134268
I understand, I'll see if I can find that. That would work really well.

>>26130922
why would the tileset change? otherwise looks good

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Thoughts on this?

>>26136981
pure shit

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I've spent like two months on this project already, looking for another few months, but any thoughts? I'll post the map because its on my USB, but everything else is on my desktop

>>26137516

> tfw its shitty and nobody likes it

>>26137516
Need more info

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I should start working on these covers during the day instead of staying up late at night. I finished Ever Grande City, -maybe-. It all depends on feedback I guess, if people find it shit I'll do another draft.

https://soundcloud.com/mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm-1/ever-grande-city-gbc-8-bit
http://pastebin.com/7JH4Hxft

I decided the higher-octave tubular bells were the best bet and they didn't hurt my ears, but I'm also very tired and I have a headache regardless of what I'm doing so I'm not the best judge. Feedback really helps, I'm a terrible judge of my own work.

>>26139469
Your work sure is great, made me follow actually

>>26138915

It's a project using a few D/P/P mods

If you want a storyline, I'll give some of the superficial stuff. Since it's a custom game I can get away with putting touchy topics.

You start off in Small Cape Town, a small luxury resort town. I'm trying to figure it out, but you start the game with a starter (from any generation) that you were given by your parents. Your rivals are your childhood best friend and your distant cousin who all set off to challenge the reopened League.

The evil teams are the Liberation Party and the Prosperity Party. The Liberation Party are a bunch of far-left extremists and the Prosperity Party are far-right extremists. Both are fighting with each other to gain control of the region at any cost, although the actual reason for taking over the region is more deeper and disturbing than politics

>>26141477

The legendary Pokemon in the game is Deoxys, along with Genesect and Mewtwo

>>26141496

Team Setups for the evil teams

Prosperity: Krokorok, Bronzor, Whirlipede, Trevenant, Seviper, Honedge

Liberation: Krokorok, Bronzor, Porygon-2, Octillery, Zangooe, Clawitzer

Elite Four Types: Steel, Ghost, Grass, Electricity

>>26141563
>ghost
>again

how do i had a thing in crowmap? like a strength block or an indication of an entrance

>>26137516
>>26141477
Obviously the Maryland area. I see South Jersey there.
Pretty clearly a thinly (or perhaps not at all) veiled Dem/Rep thing.
But hey, if that's how you take your inspiration then by all means. I'd like to know what the actual reason either side wants control of the region.
>>26141496
I understand this. Space Pokémon and a genetically engineered Pokémon. That's pretty American
>>26141563
Gonna have a lightning American on the Elite Four?

>>26142417
shit
mega shit
okay i guess
triple shit
pretty shit
what is this shit
amutee survivor shit
not a pokemon shit
almost there shit
soft turd lapras shit
what even is shit
literally only a head shit
fat walreign shit
helmet or a crab shit
zergling shit
edgy shit
taking a shit shit
i sort of like it shit
pretty cute shit

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>>26142793
What did I miss?

Anyways, got an idea and wanna run it by before I start putting it in my game in case y'all have suggestions.

Since I have following Pokemon, going to make hidden touch events scattered throughout routes.

Some are automatic. You touch it, dialogue says your following Pokemon is exhausted and looks drowsy. It gets a sleep status. Theres ten events total, 5 status effects and 5 where they pick up an item, so it can be good or bad.

Then there are choice events. When you touch them, they give a choice. Your Pokemon is growling at something. Do you calm it or let it keep growling? If you calm it, the thing might be bad and attack, leaving a status, or it might be a rare Pokemon that you can fight. If you don't calm, your Pokemon might scare away a rare Pokemon, or scare away something that would have done a beating on your Pokemon. It's also possible that nothing happens.

Basically just to add some world building and status consequences outside of battle.

>>26144226
Sounds fantastic, anon. Also thread saving bump.

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updated

>>26146744
Is that the monkey guy from Sage?

>>26146744
Would love to see a sparx dragonfly that turns into spyro and crash bandicoot that that turns into the crash with the uka uka mask on.

Is there a SoulSilver hack that restores the Game Corner to its JP self? Fuck Voltorb Flip.

>>26146744
add Suezo from Monster Rancher

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Please enjoy this Essentials overworld tileset that I've added various new Crystal-style tiles to (Read: a shit ton of them are stolen from other hacks. Regardless, go nuts my friends)

>>26147645
I see some of my stuff on there and you didn't even rip some of it correctly. Good job.

>>26147716
That's what I'm here for c:

>>26147645
You are the bees knees man. Too bad I'm working in frlg but saving this for future reference. Currently doing similar to the gen 3 tilesets and gonna post it here when done. It would be great if we kinda created a VP tilesets dump and kept it in the OP for future peeps.

>>26147728
Well, to be fair I'm not working on the project anymore. I'll probably release the tiles publicly anyways.

>>26147746
Yeah, that's the idea. Glad you like it atleast.

Also as an aside it's kind of obvious but I fugged with the battle tower to be like a Goldenrod megamart type thing

>>26147783
It would be appreciated anon. I'm not really sorry for swiping them in the first place, but thanks for making them.

>>26147850
I don't care that you swiped them, but part of the roof isn't on the tileset. (The safari zone at the very bottom) I'll post the full thing and the night version eventually.

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Hey everyone, i'm back.

Just finished my Mystery Gift Script that can link to the internet and receive event pokemon, the developer releases.

Sorry about video quality. The usual program was being finicky.

>>26147917
Glad to see you're back!

Out of curiosity, how is this any different from the default Mystery Gift in Essentials? Do you have any plans for it?

i havent played any pokemon games after emerald, is there any way i can play the newer gen games? ive tried desume with pokemon white and black but i cant gain experience

>>26147933
My script is a far easier to work with. As a dev, you can host an event through pastebin using dev-friendly parameters instead of a solid block of seemingly random code.

Here is a comparison of the two event test files.

Mine:
http://pastebin.com/raw/eCyhE7yJ

stock:
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/pokemonessentials/images/e/e7/MysteryGift.txt

This script can edit literally every possible attribute a pokemon can have without excessive coding or even strong knowledge on how it even works.

>>26148009
there are patched roms everywhere for newer games that fix this issue.

>>26148023
Ah! Very cool!

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so is Sage confirmed dead?

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>>26147786
Working on giving the original tileset a bit more diversity and making it more natural. All furniture will have a dark, light, and red wood version. Just started on the beds here, gonna make them different colors and have some with ornate headboards. If anyone has suggestions on stuff they wanna see included let me know, adding a ton to both indoor and outdoor tilesets.

>>26148279
These are for FireRed? Shit man, they're awesome

Here's a discussion I've been wanting to have for a while.

In my game, I want to improve certain aspects of the game to make it more balanced in multiplayer and fun in single player.
Some ways I've come with to do this are:

-Implementing the mechanic of Field Abilities, which grant utility outside of battle with a certain amount of badges.

-Some Pokémon receive an attributes called Pokebodies, which grant them secondary abilities like Levitate, Static, and Flame Body


-Sound Type is a thing

>Attacking:

x2
-----
Fire, Ice, Ghost, Steel

x0.5
-----
Grass, Rock, Bug, Sound


>Defending:

Weak to
-----
Bug, Psychic, Ice, Poison

Resists
-----
Rock, Electric, Ghost, Dark, Sound


-Ice now resists Ground, Flying, and Water


-I may or may not raise some pokemons' stats by 10 to 20 if needed.

-I also want to increase the movepool of certain pokemon as well

Anything else you all would like to see?

>>26149015
Sound beats ice but ice beats sound? Lol what?

>>26149307
Yep, reminder that Dragon beats Dragon and Ghost beats Ghost, and that Giratina is weak to both of its own types.

There are weirder things.

>>26149015
I'd say only raise stats by 10 at max. I'd like to see a multi-floor gym that uses strength puzzles to move around the gym. So you knock down a boulder from 2f to 1f, and you can access a new area, kind of like the Icy Path in Johto or Seafoam Islands.

>>26149015
Which attacks did you retcon into Sound?

I have a list for my game, wanted to compare

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>>26149524
I see where you're coming from with the 10 point limit. I'd only raise something 20 points for something like, say Delcatty, which even a mega would find it difficult to be viable without Beedrill treatment.

I like the gym idea. I've been trying to get really inventive about gym layouts recently. I have this castle gym i'm working on that you'd really have to see in order to get the idea behind it.

>>26149549

Hyper Voice
Boom Burst (now drops Special Attack after use)
Sing
Echoed Voice
Relic Song
Supersonic
Uproar
Round
Sonic Boom
Confide
Noble Roar
Roar
Snore

Pokemon gaining the typing are:
Jigglypuff and Wigglytuff (Igglybuff stays Normal/Fairy)
Voltorb and Electrode (who both get boomburst)
Misdreavus and Mismagius
Whismur, Loudred, and Exploud
Chimecho and Chingling
Kricketot and Kricketune
Chatot
Roggenrola, Boldore, and Gigalith
Meloetta
Clawitzer

>>26149015
Is there any reasoning behind Sound being SE on Steel but NVE on Rock apart from Steel being good and Rock being shit? Rocks are typically brittle and far more vulnerable to vibrations than steel, it doesn't really make sense.

>>26149639
Sounds good, only other contenders I had on my list were Growl, Grass Whistle, Metal Sound, Perish Song, Screech, but those are status moves anyway so it doesn't really matter

As for Pokemon I had all those except Voltorb and Clawitzer, and also added:
Politoed: Water/Sound
Maractus: Grass/Sound
and was considering Drowzee, Hypno, Noibat and Noivern (the latter two only because my game supports Pokémon having three types)

>>26149639
I had a similar question. I was going to raise all fully evolved Pokemon to at least a 480 bst. Is this heresy?

>>26149677
Steel is a very resonant medium, as is Ice.
Heavy sounds can put out fires as well.
Ghosts are heavily influenced by loud sounds as well.

Grounded sounds, like the ones generated by earthquakes, can travel far depending on the density of macroscopic obstructions like rocks, which do not conduct sounds as well due to their rigidity and nonconforming shape, hence why rock resists but ground doesn't.

I chose sound as a balancing type because of how naturally it balances the game, yet has already technically been officially implemented in the designs of both pokémon and moves

>>26149716
I don't think growl has to much going for it as a sound move, even flavor-wise. Sure, it's sound based, but it's so common, so weak, and found so early in game, there's almost no point in considering it. To me, it's in the same category as pound, which in every sense, could just as easily be a fighting move.
There will still be "Sound-Based" moves that attack behind substitutes and are reflected with soundproof, so moves like growl and bug buzz are just fine.

Politoed has very little to do with sound but a few pokedex entries and perish song.
Maractus? I get the maracas, but I feel it doesn't validate a type either.
As far as I know, nothing canon has suggested that Drowzee and Hypno use sound during any of it's abilities.
Noibat and Noivern have great descriptive typings already. If anything I'd change it to Sound/Dragon with Pokébody Levitate

>>26149774
Some pokémon function just fine with BST below that

>>26149774
>Is this heresy?
its largely unnecessary for regular playthroughs, which is what 99% of the runs your game will get

>>26149791
That's actually pretty clever. I always thought Sound type was a stupid idea, but the way you've done it does a lot of good things for the type chart and makes sense flavour wise.
What's the reason for Poison beating Sound?

>>26150274
bump

>>26149341
I understand being weak to yourself but being weak to what your strong against sounds extremely weird to me. Regardless it's your game so have fun!

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>>26148279
Very nice tiles, man. I started out using FRLG. I love the style of GSC because of nostalgia and "best-gen"ery.

Here's an updated version of the tileset I posted before, I've sorted through tile types, done a few recolors (trying to stay faithful to the palette and keep everything consistent), and added a couple new types as well as clip some unnecessary stuff.

What's a good G/S/C ROMhack that has all 721 pokemon? Probably a weird request, but I can't find many

>>26152445
I don't think that's possible.

>>26150274
>>26152047
Noise Pollution

This was really the one match-up that I felt I needed but had a hard time coming up with how to go about doing it.

>>26100372
dont think it should be a oneway area

>>26152445
>>26152449
So far (posted last thread I think) they're about halfway through sticking gen 3 in the gen 2 721 project.

>>26153015
You're thinking of the Gen 1 721 project, of which it's still currently adding Johtomons, I think it's up to #200 exactly last I checked. The Hoenn starters in pic are just placeholder slots to test having more than 256 Pokémon.

>>26152445
>>26152449
There currently aren't any GSC hacks that have expanded the Dex beyond its normal amount (unless there's a finished hack that uses the two open slots in the game but I don't think that really counts). To make something like that would require rewriting a LOT of code in pretty much all areas of the game that deal with Pokémon, to use two bytes for species data instead of one. The reason Red has an expanded dex project mentioned above is because someone took the time to actually rewrite all of the relevant code for that game. Wait for someone with autism besides me because I have a toddler's understanding of .asm and can't touch anything engine-related without breaking a million things in ways I don't understand to take interest in it, when they do you might start seeing expanded dex hacks for Crystal.

>>26131835
I thought this was a loss edit for a moment.

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>>26155770
here you go

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I need a recommnedation for a nice Pokemon Red hack that would produce a save file compatible with regular game (so no stat, moveset, or map modifications)

This is because I plan to play Pokemon Stadium with it later on (I can backup and restore save files from cartridge with my Everdrive64), and I plan to play it on my phone for better convenience. Still, I would like to take advantage of any improvement hack that would make the game a bit fresher for this run.

Thanks.

>>26156768
Also, I would appreciate similar recommendations for Pokemon Gold (after I finish Red, I plan to play Gold to use later on Stadium 2)

>>26156768
literally no hack does this. whenever they update sprites or remove bugs, they always end up changing movesets and maps as well

>>26157045
Well I found this colorization hack ( http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/1385/ )
I guess that's about all I'll get. There's another hack that adds a running option but it isn't compatible with the colorization. What a waste.

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Made some fancier beds today and started making the room "sets" based on wood color and color combos. going along pretty well, these are just messy cobbled together rooms to show most of whats been made so far.

>>26158281
awesome work. the duvet could be shaded a bit better to appear thicker

>>26158296
The duvet is the blanket on top, right?

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>>26084202
>Nonpokemon VGM
I used music from other RPGmaker versions.
>OCs are sprite edits
More of a temporary thing, but I could keep them because of pure laziness
>Evil team
Team Genesis
>more than 2 rivals
Less of rivals and more of 4 friends that travel with you. You see one or more of them very frequently throughout the story.
>Evil team has a dumb motive
This one is more subjective since their motive is to revert the new Pokemon League rulings (10 gyms, only 5 badges needed to have a chance at fighting the elite four, Pokemon League has complete control of the pokemon box system). But since the rules themselves aren't all that bad, and doesn't really restrict the trainers too much, it might seem kinda pointless.

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>>26158443
>Less of rivals and more of 4 friends that travel with you.

NO

NO NO NO NO FUCK THAT NOT ANOTHER XY

>>26158490
But unlike XY, all 4 characters are very important to the story and aren't just sitting there in the shadows just to challenge you once in a while.

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>>26158545
So they'll follow you around EVEN MORE than XY's rivals?

>>26158571
At least they're aren't as annoying. They don't stop your progress with needless battles.

>>26148181
On the contrary
play testing for 2.0 has started

I'd like to get an opinion on a mechanic I'm implementing called PokéBodies.

>basically is a single ability given to certain species based on design and physical attribute
>Annouced on entry into battle (Box comes up on-screen like an ability in Gen 5 and 6)
>not every pokémon has one
>Mega Evolutions can have a different one or obtain one when the pre evolution didn't have one
>pokémon with a pokébody also have an ability, meaning that certain abilities are retconned in to pokébodies (e.g. Pikachu would have Static as a pokébody and maybe volt absorb as an ability or lightning rod as a hidden ability simultaneously)

Which current abilities should be PokéBodies and what are some new ones you can think of?
Who should get them?

>Levitate is now a pokébody that gives each pokémon an innate immunity to most ground type moves
What Abilities should they get while remaining balanced?

Gastly
Haunter
Gengar -Not Mega Gengar
Koffing
Weezing
Misdreavus
Unown
Vibrava
Flygon
Lunatone
Solrock
Baltoy
Claydol
Duskull
Chimecho
Latias
Latios
Mismagius
Chingling
Bronzor
Bronzong
Carnivine
Rotom - Obviously gets Motor Drive as it's ability
Rotom (Heat)
Rotom (Wash)
Rotom (Frost)
Rotom (Spin)
Rotom (Cut)
Uxie
Mesprit
Azelf
Giratina (O)
Cresselia
Tynamo
Eelektrik
Eelektross
Cryogonal
Hydreigon

along with:
Mega Charizard X
Beedrill
Weepingbel and Victreebel
Mega Alakazam
Venomoth
Magnemite Family
Porygon Family
Mew
Clebi
Dustox
Shednja :^)
Castform
Glale
Metang
Mega Metagross
Jirachi
Chingling family
Probopass
Solosis Family
Yamask
Vanillite
Klink Family
Elgyem Family
Litwik family
Volcarona
Carbink
Klefki
Phantump
Pumkaboo
Diancie
Hoopa

The ground moves that still hit are:
Bone Club
Bonemerang
Bone Rush
Drill Run
Earth Power
Mud Bomb
Mud Shot
Mud Slap
Thousand Arrows - which now never misses, avoiding substitute and protect

Can this be balanced?
What else would need changing to work?

>>26147645
ABSOLUTELY

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EXACTLY WHAT I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR THANK U ANON <3

>>26160907
its a good idea but would probably take a lot of work to balance it. i can see pokemon having levitate + another ability unbalancing things a lot

still, it's a great concept that makes a lot of sense and could add considerable depth to the game. i've been thinking about developing a similar system for years in emerald but i'm not sure about how i'd go about implementing it

>>26160907
drill run and earth power hitting feels like cheating

>>26160907
Ok.

Following things should be made into pokebodies.
>Burn immunity and Water veil
>Poison/Tox immunity and immunity (the ability)
>Paralysis immunity and Limber
>Powder Immunity and Overcoat
>Freeze immunity and Magma armour.
If a pokemon that would logically get a poison immunity has poison heal/tox boost just give them something new and cooler. Poison heal was ass cancer anyway.

Also these should be just passive 'things' a lot of pokemon have instead of abilities;
>Sticky hold
>Suction cups
>Battle/Shell armour
>Damp
>Illuminate
>Run away
>Soundproof
>Wonder guard So it can have magic guard as an ability silly.
>Flower gift, forecast and stance change
>Gluttony
>Honey Gather
>Sweet, Aroma and Flower veil

>>26161762
Earth power shouldn't, but drill run is fine. Drill run is on like, 3 pokemon.

>>26153360
>Gen 1 721 project
Link lad? sounds interesting af

>>26162150
>making shedinja viable for use at all

I love you too anon

>>26162498
https://hax.iimarck.us/topic/6738/

Basically all the prep work is done for it engine-wise, there's just the grunt work of adding in the Pokémon.

>>26162150
I think Poison Heal can stay. It just doesn't need to yield DOUBLE damage.
The concept is great, but effect is a little overboard.

I think I might actually do something like that with Shednja.

>>26161762
Pokemon who use Drill Run are depicted as flying toward the opponent.
Maybe earth power is a stretch, but after all it is a volcano forcefully shooting upwards.

>>26161453
In order to do this, I need to add some stuff to the stock Essentials scripts. It's probably a lot easier than adding it an official game. My project started as a BW2 rom hack that actually got pretty far, but the difficulties in editing mechanics is what lead to me redoing it.

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How does this look?
I'm mostly new to making maps, and I'm never really sure if something is too cramped or too open.

>>26163740
Well, my only critique is the uneven treeline. I'd fix this by moving the eastern gatehouse up one tile or down a few tiles to allow your upper trees to match the rest.

Other than that, I really like your sense of space and detail anon. Keep us posted!

>>26163871
^

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>>26163871
Thanks, anon. Took your advice and changed the trees. Also made one of the paths a little thicker so it works better with the way the trees are now.

>>26163999
It's solid, well done.

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Kanto Roads here. Just wanted to get feedback on if the hedge maze is good enough and show off a little of what I've done to Cerulean. The waterfall was initially supposed to come down off Route 23 but with how I've made the slope of Mt. Moon shorter it needed to be closer to Route 4.
Cerulean Cave is accessible as soon as the player gets surf and leads through to the Power Plant. No more Mewtwo, but I'm sure I can find some cool things to stick in there..
Thank god for block editing. I never really understood how the bridge was a bridge if it were on land. Darker water tiles are supposed to convey depth in order to keep the reservoir a manageable size. A park for the view; I had that little building (the Cerulean Engineering Corps) over where the faded grass tiles are, but it blocked the view. Closer to the Power Plant is better anyways.
Not sure what to do with the empty space between Mart and Center.
Cerulean originally had like 5 enterable houses. I thought it was overkill. I know it says Cerulean CITY but I like to think of it more as a suburb of Saffron.
Had a lot of leftover space on the bottom that I wasn't sure what to do with so this is what I have for now.
Do you think Lt. Surge named his house Lightning America?

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Recolored that GSC tileset I posted for nighttime

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>>26165838
And Morning (Much less of a pain in the ass)

>>26165838
>>26165864
You are doing the Lord's work.

>>26165943
Deus vult, anon, deus vult.