Defend this gen 7 fags.

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Let's be real, even if it was a new region with new Pokémon and new characters and new animation; people would STILL say it's somehow Gen 6.5.

The meme has transcended.

>>26069562
Let's be real, even if the battle mechanics are the same, the move animations are the same, the PSS/Super Training/Amie bottom screen UI is the same, the overworld models are the same, the pokemon model colors/sizes/animations are the same, the pentagon system is the same, and it could battle and trade with XY/ORAS people would STILL say it's somehow Gen 7.

The meme has transcended.

>>26069605
At this point the concept of a 'generation' is subjective.

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Need more for this

>>26069526
Gen 2 isn't Gen 1.5

Even if SM has connections to Kalos, it's still Gen 7.

>>26069664
>Gen 2 isn't Gen 1.5

Gen 2 doesn't have same battle mechanics, same graphics, and it can't battle with Gen 1. I don't see your point.

>>26069526
>>26069656

>numerology/history channel tier evidence

What's next, are you gonna tell me the Minoans took 2 tons of Lake Michigan Copper and took it back to Greece circa 1000 BCE?
Look it up, there are people pushing this shit

>>26069713
NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERD

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>Gen 1
Red/Blue
>Gen 2
Yellow
>Gen 3
Gold/Silver
>Gen 4
Crystal
>Gen 5
RS
>Gen 6
FRLG
>Gen 7
Emerald
>Gen 8
DP
>Gen 9
Platinum
>Ben 10
HGSS
>Gen 11
BW
>Gen 12
BW2
>Gen 13
XY
>Gen 14
ORAS
>Gen 16
Sun Moon

>>26069691
And neither will Sun and Moon.

>>26069782
But it will.

>>26069713
Well somebody took that fucking copper and it wasn't the natives, so it was either the Minoans, the Vikings, or the Chinese

>>26069798
But it won't

>>26069798
[citation]

All we have is that they will be compatible via Bank. Why didn't they mentioned trading or battling? Seems to me like they won't be able to battle nor trade

>>26069691
It's already confirmed to only be compatabile with Gen 6 via Pokemon Bank.

>>26069825
It's also going to be compatible with Gen 1 through Bank as well

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>>26069803

Be honest with me, /vp/ would you be fine with gook moot killing this board?
I come here once every so often and every single fucking time at the top of the catalog it's
>muh gen 6.5
or some reddit-tier post.

>>26069824
>Why didn't they mentioned trading or battling?

Because it's about Bank.

The proposal that these games won't battle and trade with XYORAS is just as much in need of a citation.

>>26069825
No it isn't. If it were confirmed there wouldn't still be arguments about this. They were vague about it.

>>26069839
So?

>>26069854
Yes, the Egyptians are another possibility

>>26069643
This. Personally I'd categorize it as Gen 6 if it really is reusing that much of XY.

>>26069860
They wouldn't have needed to specify that it was also able to communicate with XYORAS if it was part of the same gen. That alone is confirmation.

Not to mention the fact that in the initial reveal, they showed the first game of every Gen, and concluded with Sun and Moon coming 2016. Wouldn't have made such a big deal out of that if it wasn't a new Gen.

>>26069858
>reddit-tier
You're giving this shithole too much credit.

>>26069605
>Let's be real, even if the battle mechanics are the same, the move animations are the same, the PSS/Super Training/Amie bottom screen UI is the same, the overworld models are the same, the pokemon model colors/sizes/animations are the same, the pentagon system is the same, and it could battle and trade with XY/ORAS people would STILL say it's somehow Gen 7.
Maybe because most people consider a new Gen to be a game that introduces a new Pokemon and region?

I can't take you Gen 6 (6.5) fags seriously because every one of you have a different take on what would make Sun/Moon Gen 6 or 7.
For some it will fit the criteria of it being Gen 6 but for others it will fit the criteria of it being Gen 7 so they "convert". So then we'll have a civil war between the Gen 6(6.5) fags arguing over the same shit again and again.

For you Gen 6(6.5) fags, if you hear someone in public say SM is Gen 7, are you gonna go up to to them and say it's Gen 6.5?

>>26069886
>They wouldn't have needed to specify that it was also able to communicate with XYORAS if it was part of the same gen

They specified it because those games also work with Bank. And they want to encourage people to keep playing those games. I don't see what's hard to get about this.

>they showed the first game of every Gen
Because they're anniversary games. Of course they're going to show off previous games. But it doesn't equate to a new gen.

I don't know, normies far outnumber autistic neckbeards and they think it's Gen 7. It's only like two people on here that actually believe it's Gen 6, the rest are trolls, like OP.

>>26069562
>Let's be real, even if it was a new region with new Pokémon and new characters and new animation; people would STILL say it's somehow Gen 6.5.
Maybe because most people consider a same Gen to be a game that works with other games of the same gen?

>>26069932
>I don't know, normies far outnumber autistic neckbeards and they think it's Gen 7

Because they're fucking stupid and don't know anything about the series. Once gameplay actually comes out and it shows how disgustingly similar it looks to gen 6 people will start flocking to the gen 6 crowd.

>>26069926
>And they want to encourage people to keep playing those games.
It seems more like they want to let those know with the games that we can take our bros to the next gen because we'll most likely not be able to trade with SM.

>because they're anniversary games
This is the first Direct you've seen?

>>26069900
That would be fucking hilarious
>Be a couple of days ago
>Walking down the street with my friends
>All Pokemonfags, gushing over the latest SuMo leaks
>New Pokemon revealed, maximumhype.webm
>We start talking about Gen 7, discussing possible lore, Pokemon, type combinations and moves we'd like to see etc
>Suddenly we hear some shrill voice scream at us
>"STOOOOOOOOOOOOP"
>Turn around to the source of the banshee scream
>Some small, chubby guy with a fedora runs up to us
>He looks pissed, looks like he might start flailing angrily at any minute
>Looks towards us and screams
"IF THE GAMES HAVE COMPATIBILITY WITH GEN 6 THEN THEY'RE FUCKING GEN 6.5, STOP BEING MORONS"
>All of us exchange confused looks
>The second we try to bring up the possibility of a new Gen he pulls out a smartphone
>Shows us an image pointing towards evidence that it is Gen 6 (or 6.5 as he calls it)
>We just shrug and walk off, don't really care, to each their own

>>26069926
>Announces year gen 1 came out
>Shows pictures of only the first 2 games of gen 1

>Announces year gen 2 came out
>Shows pictures of only the first 2 games of gen 2

>Announces year gen 3 came out
>Shows pictures of only the first 2 games of gen 3

>Announces year gen 4 came out
>Shows pictures of only the first 2 games of gen 4

>Announces year gen 5 came out
>Shows pictures of only the first 2 games of gen 5

>Announces year gen 6 came out
>Shows pictures of only the first 2 games of gen 6

>Announces 2 more games in 2016
>"Nah, it's not a new gen"

>>26069956
>It seems more like they want to let those know with the games that we can take our bros to the next gen because we'll most likely not be able to trade with SM.
No. They mentioned XY works with Bank to transfer Pokemon to ORAS when ORAS was coming out. Doesn't mean ORAS is a new gen game.

>This is the first Direct you've seen?
No. Is this the first trailer you've seen? Most game trailers don't fellate themselves over the history of the franchise unless it's an anniversary game.

>>26069978
They were showing off the history of the franchise for anniversary titles. It's not hard to understand.

>>26069991
So why did they only show the first pair of games for each generation?

>>26069982

Tell me this; if SM CANT trade nor battle with XYORAS but has similar graphics, is it still Gen 6?

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>>26069999
check'd

>Be a couple of days ago
>Walking down the street with my friends
>All Pokemonfags, gushing over the latest SuMo leaks
>New Pokemon revealed, maximumhype.webm
>We start talking about Gen 6, discussing possible lore, Pokemon, type combinations and moves we'd like to see etc
>Suddenly we hear some shrill voice scream at us
>"STOOOOOOOOOOOOP"
>Turn around to the source of the banshee scream
>Some small, chubby guy with a fedora runs up to us
>He looks pissed, looks like he might start flailing angrily at any minute
>Looks towards us and screams
"IF THE GAMES HAVE NEW POKEMON THEN THEY'RE FUCKING GEN 7, STOP BEING MORONS"
>All of us exchange confused looks
>The second we try to bring up the possibility of a same Gen he pulls out a smartphone
>Shows us an image pointing towards evidence that it is Gen 7
>We just shrug and walk off, don't really care, to each their own

>>26069734
You gotta remember jap red and green then their release of blue

>>26069991
The XY direct had a retrospective, you going to tell me that was to commemorate the 17th anniversary?
>>26069999
Quad Quad-firm Gen 7

>>26069999
to be concise.

What, did you want them to show literally every game?

>>26070009
No. If we have to absolutely base it on one factor the best factor is battling compatibility.

gen 1 can only battle with gen 1.
gen 2 can only battle with gen 2.
gen 3 can only battle with gen 3.
ORAS could still battle with XY (a gen 6 game) despite having new abilities/moves/megas. So nothing is to stop SM from still being able to battle with XY and ORAS even if it introduces new Pokemon. Then it will be gen 6. Just like ORAS.

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Ok

>>26070020
>The XY direct had a retrospective

yeah, as a part of the direct. Not the game trailer.

>>26070041
B-but anon! That's not proof! That's just something an intern did! :^)

>>26070041
Not on the American or Japanese site so it doesn't matter.

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>>26070051
>Shows up on American site
>"Nope not on Japanese site"

>>26070041
Where is this from? Do you have a URL?

>>26070034

Thing is, IF SM can't battle but can trade, you guys will use that to justify it as Gen 6 just because it can trade.

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Anon, why are you so obsessed with making these threads every other week?
Seriously it feels like I see these threads every week or two and it's the same guy defending the 6.5 argument every time. Do you get off on it? Why do you care so much what other people think?
You believe in what you want to believe in and let others believe what they want to believe in, no need to be such an autist about it.

>>26070094
http://www.nintendo.dk/3ds/spil/pokemoon

>>26070112
Cool, thanks. I wasn't sure why the language seemed broken if it were legit, I didn't realize that it was translated. That's pretty damning evidence.

>>26070104
>you guys will use that to justify it as Gen 6 just because it can trade.

No because GSC can trade with gen 1.

>>26070134
nope because it's not on the american or japanese site. Instead it's some obscure foreign nintendo site probably written by an intern who saw people on the internet calling it gen 7 so they put gen 7. They never officially refer to generations as numbers.

>>26070167
>Officiel hjemmeside for Nintendo i Danmark
>obscure

>>26070167
>They never officially refer to generations as numbers
http://www.gamefreak.co.jp/blog/dir_english/?m=201301
"Pokémon X and Pokémon Y–the evolved sixth generation of Pokémon."

>>26070187
Yes it's obscure. Because it's some backwater europoor site instead of any of the main ones. That version of the site is the only one that even has a different write up while all other ones are just direct translations of what's on the American and Jap sites. I wonder why that is.

>>26070356
Jesus anon, no need to be such a bitch about it.
This is why no one is helping you defend 6.5

>>26070398
>Jesus anon, no need to be such a bitch about it.

Who's being a bitch about what? Stop being mad that the only thing you have to rely on is a crappy nintendo site.

>>26070408
See>>26070224

>>26070044
denial.

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>>26069526
>>26069656
>>26069691
>>26069723
>>26069782
>>26069798
>>26069810
>>26070051
>>26070094
You kids need a fucking glass of bleach

>>26069642

>>26070438
see >>26070356

>>26070519

Did you even read the post?

>>26070532
Did you?

>>26070538
It's Masuda's blog you faggot

yeah and it says nothing about SM being gen 7

>>26070625
Some faggot said that Game Freak doesnt use the term generation when Masuda himself used it to describe XU as Gen 6

>>26070438
Explain why that is not stated publicly and not on some obscure website like the Scandic Nintendo sites, which is only driven by Bergsala, a goddamn redistributor.

>>26070653
and that has nothing to do with what I said

try again gen 7 fag

>>26070676
>implying I'm a Gen 7 fag

>>26070669

How am I supposed to know? You want me to ask Masuda himself or what?

>>26070676
I think you got the wrong idea
or the wrong door, buddy

>>26070676
kill yourself

>>26069526
Hexagon means nothing, this has been gone over hundreds of times.
There's no reason SM can't be gen 7 and still continue the plot of XY, just as GS did for RB.
"Trying to surprise people" is complete meaningless. They can surprise people in any number of ways and releasing a new gen without a third version for the first time ever is just that.
There are still months left before SM are released, plenty of time for Eternal Floette (and Zygarde) to get a distribution event.
The rest of the image is "Could Mozart be still alive?" patternfag game theory bullshit.

>>26070750
There's no reason why it can't be gen 6.

>>26070803
There's no reason why it can't be Gen 7.

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>>26070803
>>26070811

There's no reason why you both cant kill yourselves, you two are the fucking cancer to this board. WHO GIVES A FUCK WHAT IT IS

>>26070803
Sure, it can still be gen 6, but there's no reason to believe it is. From the timeline only mentioning the first games in the series, an official source saying gen seven, and the fact that there are new Pokemon, gen 7 is the most likely outcome.

>>26070823
Jesus
>>26070811
Sure, however it doesn't benefit Game Freak in the long run.
I won't be able to reply anymore for now as school blocks posting on 4chan

>>26069526
https://youtu.be/4qBHfd2NtJs?t=3m21s
Watch from 3:21

>>26070848
Has to be bait

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>>26070848
>it doesn't benefit Game Freak in the long run.

>>26069526
You contradict yourself with the guy saying he's not from any region. Why include a new region and make it 6.5?

>>26070918
He didn't say kalos tho.

I'll be bumping this thread and I know, but fuck it.
>>26070878
>>26070893
Starting 7th gen at this point would be financially worse for Game Freak, believe it or not. Dropping battle compatibility for XY/ORAS is one thing that would hurt them. One of the other is the design work. With another ~70ish brand new mons, it would save a lot for upcoming games after S/M. Speaking of which, have you followed what they're focusing a lot on?
You can tell a lot from who's getting the hype recently. Yes, hype, not "muh anime exclusive moneybags".
>but they're gonna be redistribution
Says who? People are anticipating this based on the assumption that they're not actually hyping them up for things related to S/M. With Zygarde literally predicting itself in S/M, it's safe to assume it has to do with those games.

Zygarde can be stronger than Mega Rayquaza lore wise, having control over four whole mascot legendaries. All while standing on the deepest fucking lore in the whole of Pokémon. Why waste this on two games that aren't in its own generation or say "DISTRIBUTION MONS!!!" as a desperate last resort to debunk the arguments?
S/M being gen 6 would fit perfectly, autistically OCD style. Them being gen 7 could be a thing, though it doesn't make sense at all.
When going and arguing about what the third version or S/M would be, such as what the fuck are they gonna do with the story and shit, they always go "implying there's gonna be a third version" as if they somehow know they'll have a 3 generation leap in 3 years. No, they're not gonna go through of the trouble to make a new gen just because gen 6 is "dying" the potential, lore and set-ups to S/M says otherwise.
Literally the argument is "Gen 7 for one or two years with Zygarde distribution and then gen 8".
Who actually thinks this nonsense?

>>26069526
Already have, time and time again

>>26069526
Literally NONE of this is viable as arguments. It doesn't fucking matter if it's Gen 6 or Gen 7 when it comes to Zygarde and Floette, they're not restricted by generations you fucking idiot.

>>26073486
Yes they are. The data is in gen 6. So if they're intended to be used, it will be in a gen 6 game.

>>26073486
>they're not restricted by generations
They might not be restricted to 6th gen, but why the fuck should they be 7th gen? See the large post above.
They do hold as evidence, individually the same amount as your part of the evidence list, though a lot of it can be countered with literally OR/AS.
>>26073501
Prepare for "muh scrapped", "muh distribution" and "muh the data can be used in gen 7 and was always intended to be so because of how S/M was basically in planning since X/Y's development finished".

>>26069526
Don't reply directly to 6/6.5fags. They want attention, nothing more.

Sage their threads, and ignore them.

New region, new characters, new pokemon. It's a new gen. Zycucks and the like will always shift their goalposts to suit their needs. At this point though, anyone who truly believes in 6.5 or the like is legitimately retarded. People on this board just shitpost so they can see (you).

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>>26073609
>They want attention, nothing more.
It's funny when you see frogposters and whatnot with
>6.5
all the fucking time. They are usually the ones that want attention for their weak arguments.
>Sage their threads, and ignore them.
I do this every goddamn time with either threads, yet somehow, there's these guys which bump with "LMAO GEN 6.5FAG IS WRONG BTFO AHAH" each time the thread is dying. I only bumped because I'm getting tired of these two memes running around and I figured why not just give them the explanation they should need.
Weak arguments? Yeah, like you've repeated here. They can be explained against using the games themselves.
Also, fuck "6.5", it's a fucking meme which no one should believe. Gen 6 S/M is the place to go.

>>26069526
>>26069656
>Grasping at straws this hard

>>26073741
Perhaps, but what are you gonna say if it's the truth?

>>26073741
>>26073752
Because, well, it is the truth.