I made a series of images showing what Pokemon's stats would be like if the multipliers from certain abilities and items were applied to the raw stats instead. For example, if Furfrou were to have max investment in Defense, it would be functionally equal to a max invested base 169 defense.
Similarly, with no defense investment. This is thanks to the Fur coat boost, of course.
Max attack azumarill hits 436 attack after Huge Power, which is equal to a base attack stat of 149.
Same thing with Mega Mawile. it Hits 678 attack so that would be equal to an attack stat of roughly 259.
Comparison between the power of Life Orb Latios and Mega Latios. These stats were calculated with the standard Latios spread in mind, so if you were to run more attack investment for some reason the Attack stat would be equal to something higher.
Latias vs. Mega Latias. Standard Life Orb only runs 184 special attack EVs. So you can see Life Orb outdamages by quite a bit.
The main draw to using mega Alakazam is the Speed, since Alakazam normally doesn't have Life orb recoil to worry about.
choice band boost
Deoxys-Attack is no joke. Life Orb Deo-A hits almost as hard on the special side as Mega Mawile does on the physical side.
This number would be higher if standard Assault Vest ran special defense investment.
Last one for now. Standard life orb usually runs a mix spread.
I think I'm gonna make more mega comparisons, since those are kinda useful for seeing how items stack up against mega stones. Otherwise most of these are pretty pointless. I was really bored last night.
This is the closest thing to a decent thread we got today. It's interesting at least.
Well I think these are pretty cool, OP.
Do Guts boosted mons next
>>26053357
>60*2=138
What's the extra 9*2 from?
>>26053611
Stat formula is a little more complicated than that.
Furfrou naturally has an uninvested defense stat of 156: Fur Coat "doubles" it to 312, which is what an uninvested base 138 defense would be equal to.
>>26053611
>whats the extra 9*2 from
>op i'm a faggot and can't into EV spreads and natures
Do +6 speed swift swim Floatzel in the rain holding a Choice Scarf while in tailwind.
nice work OP, that's pretty cool
i'll let you fuck my wife OP
>>26053653
Oh so technically it's not the adjusted base stat, since you're counting the nature and IVs into it? Am I getting that right?
>>26053660
Rude
>>26053678
For you, anon
Soul dew is fucking good
>>26053678
>>26053951
Does that include a speed-boosting nature with max IVs and investment?
>>26053980
Yes.
>>26053606
Guts boosted Heracross is notably stronger than Mega, actually. Mega has more accurate moves and a strong Grass attack though. But when using STAB attacks regular Heracross wins.
>>26054040
forgot this.
>>26053967
Gottagofast
The power of Hustle.
Feel free to throw out more ideas.
>>26054056
The added bulk of the mega is nice too though. Can I get a weakness policy +1 dragon dance Dragonite here?
>>26054114
Don't know if you can work this out, or if you'd actually do it, but I wonder about the acccuracy of some moves when affected by Hustle (and maybe +1 Accuracy + Hustle)
>>26054184
Stone Edge to be precise
>>26054131
Something worth noting, not all of these stats are completely accurate due to rounding. For example, Dragonite's speed would sit between 144 and 145 base speed.
>>26054184
Hustle Stone Edge has 64% accuracy.
but at +1 accuracy, it has 85% accuracy.
>>26054253
Thanks anon
>>26053444
>>26053417
Do one with soul dew pls
Cherrims in sun with life orb and Max atk investment. And the SPD and ATKon a charizard y with flower gift from cherrim
Nice. Can you do all tough claws megas ?
>>26053342
nice thread, m8
>>26053951
>talonflame used brave bird.
>>26055367
>Floatzel used Aqua Jet.
Assault Vest Tyranitar might be a fun one to do.
evolite chansey please
I've never really quite understood. What does the base star actually represent? What the stat would be naturally at level 100 without nature, IVs, EVs? At level 50?
>>26055666
Nice trips.
They're just numbers that get put into a formula along with level, IVs, and EVs to determine actual stats.
Guess you could say a Lv. 50 Pokémon with no IVs and EVs would have base+60 for HP and base+5 in the others.
>>26055666
>stat formula
[Base Stat x 2 + IV + EV + (Level / 100) + 5] * Nature
>for hp
Base HP x 2 + IV + EV + (Level / 100) + Level + 10
>>26055960
But that's wrong.
It's [Base · 2 + IV + (EV/4)] · (Level/100) · Nature + 5 for a non-HP stat
Archeops under the effects of Defeatist. How shitty does it get?
>>26056079
Well, now I made a fool of myself.
[(Base · 2 + IV + EV/4) · Level/100 + 5] · Nature
For HP:
[(Base · 2 + IV + EV/4) · Level/100 + Level + 10
>>26056079
Yeah wrong sign for the Level Multiplier, my bad
>>26055448
Sandstorm boosts + Av comparison. I don't know if the AV set runs sp.def investment, from what I can tell it's not that good.
>>26055463
Big defense here.
>>26055174
This is in sun with life orb, max attack. I didn't bother calculating special attack this time.
I wanna see Conkeldurr with an Assault Vest under dual screens and 236 SpD EVs.
>>26055174
I made some assumptions about spreads. Also the Sp def and and Attack aren't completely equal, but I rounded to 181 on both of them. Bear in mind it will get another 1.5x boost whenever using a fire move in sun, which I didn't calculate in.
>>26056948
extremely balky clowne
>>26055288
How about Eviolite Dusclops and Tangela ?
You're based, anon. This thread is so little yet so fun.
>>26057132
Well, that explains why it was fucking hilarious to pull it out on battlespot.
Thanks OP.
could i get sand force, assault vest probopass in the sand please?
this is a great thread
dude, do Contrary Shuckle after full Shell Smashes
Sunkern
Modest nature
Max Special Attack EV/IV
Solar Power
Life Orb
How high does its Special Attack stat go?
Let''s get one for Adaptability M-Bee and Stingulor
>>26057526
It reaches the equivalent of 339 special attack. In other words, it's about as strong as itemless, sunless Sunflora.
>>26057437
assuming max special attack modest here.
>>26057552
Stingulor's image wouldn't load on my computer for some reason, no idea why. I only calced the boosts to its attack since that's what it usually uses, and I assumed max attack Adamant. It's pretty strong after an Adaptability boost, not sure why not that many people use it in OU.
>>26057341
Assuming max Defense and HP.
Could you do Sheer Force/Life Orb Nidoking?
Or maybe a moxie boosted honch?
Happiny (adamant evil >:) ) With 6+ atk choice band and flower gift atk bonus
>>26053462
speed kills
>>26057195
What about M-Aero, M-CharX, and Barbaracle?
Also, Multiscale Lugia.
Oh, anon, I hope you're gay becauseI would make sweet sweet sweet love to you right nowCould you do one with base stats boosted, but no investment? E. G. Mega Charizard's Tough Claws boost
>>26053967
Just imagine trying to take this monster down in Gen 3. Shadow Ball would be your best option and the best STAB users are too slow. What about Soul Dew Latias?
>>26053389
Swords Dance :^)
>>26053342
>>26058716
Do it, I'm curious now
>>26053951
Jesus fucking Christ, my sides.
>>26057974
Thanks! Really shows how pathetic poor Sunkern is.
>>26054227
holy fug
>>26060021
D. Dance Weakness Policy Dragonite has its days....
I like to switch on lati@s especially if they just used Draco meteor get 2.5x attack and 1.5 speed with extreme speed, you're pretty much set
>>26060081
Or maybe get ballsy and take an ice shard switch in from weavil, the extreme speed and your set, just less speed
>>26053951
>3885 Speed
Full HP/Def Regigigas with Assault Vest
Bumperoo
>>26053342
Great thread. I would like to see porygon2 with eviolite
>>26053342
best thread of the year so far, thanks OP
I heard that Clamperl can have an insane special attack thanks to an equiped item, is that true?
OP I'd like to see Banded Mega-fug with +6 in all stats running standard set just to see how high we can go
>>26057132
How much attack does Conk have if it has Guts activated fro ma Flame Orb?
>>26058089
Stingulor gets a mega in Gen 7
>>26055666
BEGONE SATAN!!!!
>>26053389
You forgot to increase the Defense because Mawile has Intimidate which can be seen as a virtual Def boost.
>>26063889
Cutting the foe's attack isn't the same as boosting your own defense.
>>26053951
>>26057480
Seconding this.
Also, x6 attack power tricked Shuckle with, say, Muscle Band or Hard Stone.
>>26053951
Beautiful.
I'd love to see Sliggoo with eviolite
>>26067586
I'm curious as well
>>26053951
its actually 3948
I'd like to see a Huge Power Regigigas or Rampardos.
>>26053342
Do some slow mons, like -6 speed shit or certain Curse/Trick Room spreads
>>26070070
huge power mega mewtwo x
>>26070115
fuck i made it jolly
>>26070095
This, do a -6 speed paralyzed Munchlax
>>26056928
>164 attack
if only this was faster i would breed one for funsies
>>26058066
wow cool might breed one...although i have no idea how this would win games
>>26058089
i've always wanted to use stingulor but that speed just ruins it.
>83
so close to being usable.
>>26063034
agreeed
>>26069995
>>26070115
That's the raw stat, not the effective base.
Sheer force Nidoking and queen PLEAAAAASE
>>26070095
flygons first stage is slower
>>26072322
ment >>26070153
>>26058089
Who the fuck is Stingulor???
>>26072369
A very good mon in UU.
>>26072369
shitmon only made competitive viable with eviolite
>>26072369
a very good shitmon in OU with eviolite
>>26072369
A piece of shit.
>>26053951
Jesus christ
can you make a mega mawile max atk invested at +6 with helping hand boost
How about AV Shuckle with full SpDef investment in sand with light screen and a +6 boost from calm mind passed to it?