Where were you when the fake starters got debunked?

>>26049759

I always wanted visual proof of whichever board was the most autistic.

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Laughing. It's so funny how you can notice the samefag who made these shitty leaks defending them in every thread, and getting so mad when you call them out on being dogshit. He loses his fucking mind.

Look at the cats ears its really bad I didnt even see at first the size and shape completely messed up

>>26049768

Why so upset rockfag? Or do you go by owlfag?

>>26049759
>>26049768
You were the same guys who thought Hawlucha was fake because his feathers didn't line up aren't you.

>>26049785
No. But you're that faggot from the other thread defending these ugly designs with the same shit argument. I'll bet money you're the fucking pathetic faggot who made these awful leaks.

>>26049791
Fucking hell go outside you angry little man

>>26049839
found him

>>26049843

>him

>>26049791
>ugly designs
stop posting anytime

>It has random papers on the sides so it has to be real

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>>26049759
hurr durr

I was in my room

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>>26049867
explain this

>>26049759
what are the keks even supposed to show off?

>>26049886
That's not on the body, it's the green from the arm overlapping.

>>26049886
That's its right arm overlapping its chest.

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>The designer literally used Pansage line to make a fake leak and no one notices it

>>26049759

looks as real as smugleaf fellas

sorry but this is the genuine article.

>>26049768
This is actual proof

>>26049759
This isn't

>>26049926
True creativity is a dead-subject.
Braixen called

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>>26050247
Have you fucks never seen a tropical bird?

And how do stripes not lining up perfectly (dunno if you know this, but they tend not to) debunk these?

It helps to not be braindead when debunking shit.

>>26050315
You're not responding to anyone. You're talking to yourself.

i have always wonder how people feel when they spend so much time trying to prove a leak fake and then it turns out to be real
im not saying this is real, just asking

Not saying this is real but if it was real, the meltdowns on /vp/ will be hilarious.

>>26050315
It looks like a Kakapo. Look it up.

Its another hawlucha like leak THEY ARE REAL YOU DEGENERATED BITCH

yfw Shellos is a prevo of Lapras
yfw Serperior is Milotic
yfw Embaor is Rhyperior and Lickilicky
yfw Samurott is Dialga
yfw Sylveon is Flying
yfw Fairy isn't a type
yfw Greninja was debunked because of the A in Water
yfw Hawlucha has too many feathers

>>26050350
It does, I'm just pointing out how people somehow think a beak pointing downwards, somehow debunks them.

I'm all for people being skeptical an shit, but god damn people need to take a biology class.

Drawing errors aside, these are obviously fake due to
>Grass starter having way to many colors
>Grass and Fire starter not looking to the left
>Grass and Water starter not sitting/standing in neutral position
>The designs being too busy in general (a problem in merchandising)
I sincerly hope nobody ever believed these are real and it's really just that autistic owlfag forcing his next meme after the last one failed

>>26050369
Now, I wouldn't go that far. They certainly are the most plausible of the "leaks" we've seen so far, but that doesn't guarantee them real either.

I just wish people didn't use nitpicks (or lack of knowledge of REAL ANIMALS) when trying to debunk stuff.

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>>26050315
If you're using real bird as an example why don't you point out how real parrots have four fingered feet unlike the turd in the OP?

>>26050455
>they certainly are the most plausible of the "leaks"
Nice try owlfag

The "leak" with grass goat and fire bear looked far more believeable than this garbage and even that obviously turned out to be fake

Just give up

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>>26049768
>BEAK POINTS STRAIGHT DOWN, WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOUR DEPTH PERCEPTION FAGGOT
You mean like actual Kakapo?

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I like how nobody ever reports those awful "legendaries" """revealed""" in the same leak yet every redditor jumped on the starter train without thinking

>>26050483
>owl fag
>legit dislike the owl
ok

>>26050462
It is very much true that real parrots have four fingered feet, which is a something I dislike about the design.

But the thing is, problems with a design =/ equal debunking it. Its just a design flaw, which as we've seen is abundant in actual pokemon we've seen.

Again, I'm not saying these are real. Just autists need to relax a bit more. There is literally no reason to go out of your way to debunk/prove whether the random designs that get uploaded here are real or fake, as we'll see the actual designs soon enough anyway.

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>>26049759
>>26049768
If you want to debunk it try harder. This is the same approach used to "debunk" gen 5 starters that turned out to be 100% legit.

>>26050603
First stages are much easier to debunk than evolutions though.

If you want actual objective reasons why these are fake, see >>26050442

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>>26050442

it's hawlucha all over again

The worst thing about fakes is how it gives some people the impression they are smart because they come up with those ridiculous rules that show that those designs can't be real, like this >>26050442

Too many colors, really? That's "Ness isn't in Smash 4 because the yellow and blue lines of his shirt aren't in the right order" tier autistic

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>>26050635
The last two artworks are from the remakes. Secondary starter artworks, made for remakes/third versions for promotional reasons always use more dynamic poses than the introductory ones. They also don't always look to the left.

I fucking hate Oshawott but it fits the "five colors or less" criteria every other starter line does.

>>26050635

You counted the black for Oshawott's eyes but not for the bird's pupils, beaks and legs.

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>>26050672
ok

>>26050647
The worst thing about the fakes is how one or two retards always use them as an excuse to flood this board and various social media in hope of baiting the few guillible retards who never seen a fake Sugimori artwork in their life.

Sorry to come in here and ruin the fun, but I have to explain how burden of proof works.

The burden of proof is on whoever makes the positive statement. Whoever is claiming that these starters are real has to defend their position. It's not OP's job to disprove their legitimacy.

Does anyone have any real evidence supporting the legitimacy of these Pokemon?

>>26050698
I don't see any problems here.

>>26050532
Wait, there were more?

>>26050711
There is none. You don't have to use any of the guidelines posted ITT to see that the designs are just bad and don't fit the usual Game Freak starter philosophy. Anyone making paralels to gen 5 is just shitposting since those leaks were quickly verified as legit by websites like serebii.net.

Meanwhile (at the time I'm posting this) not even bulbapedo or r/Pokemon were gullible enough to fell for this starter "leak", and they usually gobble that shit in an instant.

>>26050749
I 100% agree with you, but I was trying to stay nonbiased in the other post.

>>26050738
>>26048536
Apperentely leaked in the same thread that "leaked" the fake starters

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>>26050738
Looks like a shitty mega arceus devintart fuck.

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>>26049759
>>26049768
I'd also like to point out another major mistake you two missed.

>>26049759
Sleeping like a normal person

>>26050791
That's just perspective. These starters are fake as fuck guaranteed, but I agree with them that you're just making up arbitrary guidelines.

>>26050791
Are you stupid? One wing is up while the other is hugging the body and the bird as a whole is on an angle. Stop looking for shit to use when there isn't any

>>26049926
I just realized its beak is sideways pointing straight down... Wtf

>>26051218
What do you mean by sideways?

The small part is the moving, small, closer to the body part and the bigger part is the non-moving, big, outter part of the beak.

Has anyone seen a parrot up close ever?

The beak is correct.

The legitimacy will be proven in time.

Otherwise I salute these leaks fake or not because the dry period was killing me.

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>>26049759
>>26049768
>it begins

>>26049768
When this is actually Nintendo's work and the artist is now on suicide watch.

>>26050800
>>26050858
Okay, allow me to give you two a quick lesson on perspective:
1: Parts of a character that are further away from the view are smaller than parts closer to the view, not bigger.
2: Parts of a character that are pointing roughly parallel to the view are smaller than parts pointing perpendicular to the view, not bigger.
In other words, the green part on the left wing should be smaller than the green part on the right, not five times bigger.

I thought this would've been obvious, but apparently you two aren't very good with using eyes.

See, this is why /vp/ is cool. No matter who is right, someone is getting BLOWN OUT!

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>>26051487
>being this blind

This is gonna be like when you idiots used forensics to debunk the final 5th starters or counting the feathers on the luchador hawk right, embarrassing

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Daily reminder

>>26052004
>muh patterns

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>>26049867
>>26049886
This is the harsh reality guys. This is what it's like to be on the spectrum.

>>26050442
Facing left is your argument? Child bye

If you think proportions prove anything you are really dumb or just a newfag.

>>26052013
Except
1: That's called perspective

2: This was leaked like, days before international releasee

3: It's a 3d model, not a drawing with clear mistakes being shown

>>26052048
You are just ignoring the point that finding errors in a "leaked image" proves nothing.

>>26052048
The point is that you guys keeping finding errors to prove things fake, and that shit hasn't worked for the last 2 gens. Just stop being autistic spergs and wait for 2 weeks, we'll get confirmation then.

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>people actually like these designs whether they're real or fake

Are you guys really trying to compare people saying they found errors in an image that doesn't actually have errors to the same situation but with an image that does?

And that, because people complained about the image that didn't have errors once, it's therefore evidence that trying to prove something is fake by finding errors is pointless?

What?

>>26052073
>>26052098
And why shouldn't we find errors? What's wrong with that? I'm just saying. Comparing these to the XY leaks are dumb because they're not in common.

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>>26050462
Oh boy they never made that mistake before

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Found the artist who made the fire starter. Here's the evolution.

It's Wottergate all over again

/vp/ autists try their hardest to find flaws in a perfect design

in the end it will be real

>>26052184
Lol what's the point in posting? What are you trying to accomplish?

>>26052138
>>26052183

>>26049759
Is the seal wearing a fish on its head?

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>>26052184

>>26052142
This also happened on gen 5 leaks and people said the same dumbs things y'all are spewing

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>>26053170
>>26053230
>>26053251
confirmed fake in another thread by the guy who made them