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>>26046236
How the hell is feraligatr brass knuckles

>>26046236
Someone explain the Feralgatr one to me. I know what the brass knuckles are but I don't see it in the design.

>Feraligatr based of knuckels
>Swampter based of Fans

Dafuq??

>>26046267
How is Swampert a fan of knives? How is a badger a rat and a fox a dog? How are snakes exclusively prehistoric?

>>26046236
>reposting your shitty bait thread
(You)

STEEPEST DOOR

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>>26046236
>mfw denialfags will autistically deny this and the recurring Western Zodiac, seven deadly sins, action hero, oni, military advancements, and presidential election themes with the pseudos, regional rodents, electric rodents, regional birds, etc.

>>26046282
Giant Snakes are prehistoric

also Fennekin's family is based on the Fox, not the dog

On typhlosion case, Cyndaquil is based on a mouse

>>26046307
answering myself
I was wrong on Fennekin's case

>>26046236
oh hey, someone finally changed "ballistic" to "arma"
at least now it's only half retarded
sage desu

>>26046307
>On typhlosion case, Cyndaquil is based on a mouse
Count the same stage for every line, m8. Charmander isn't even a dragon.

>>26046315
>oh hey, someone finally changed "ballistic" to "arma"

that's because the text is on spanish

>>26046307
The fox is not part of the Chinese Zodiac. Also is Serperior really a "giant snake"? It's 10"10, which while very large for a snake is still shorter than the largest extant snakes, which are up to 15" in length.

I will give you the Cyndaquil point though, since the Pokedex does refer to it as "Fire Mouse Pokemon."

>>26046322
im just trying to defend him, but yeah thats true

Off all, the only 2 that have inconsistent evolution links are Charizard and Typhlosion(coming from a reptile and a mouse to a dragon and a badger)

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>>26046282
the point of the water starters is that a part of them looks like a weapon. Swampert's tail looks like a fan of knives. I genuinely don't get Feraligatr though.

>>26046337
read
>>26046314

>>26046342
Dragons are reptiles.

>>26046236
>Swampert
>Battle Fan
HOLY SHIT. I love battle fans, so unique. But really risky of its close range.

>>26046348
Yeah wrote my post before that post was made.

>>26046353
still, it is incosistent on how the relation between the Chinese Zodiac's dragon and a family of Reptile>Reptile>Dragon can work, specially since all the other Fire Starters have the same evolution links(except Typhlosion)

>>26046353
Wrong. Dragons are imaginary.

>>26046236
Feraligatr's fins are based on trident daggers.

>>26046376
so are water bending Otters, Cocodrile/Caiman, Toads(specially ninja)

>>26046353
>implying dragons aren't birds

>>26046405
only giant lion turtles, tui and la can waterbend

>>26046416
>implying Dragons are linked to dinosaurs

I could argue with this but since the Dragon's myth is somewhat created by the Dinosaur fossils, ill let it pass

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>>26046396
Forgot pic.

lol, I made this picture to troll /vp/

but apparently some spic stole it and translated it to his gibberish language and posted it on facebook

disgusting

the water patterns are an absolute joke btw, never intended to be even 10% serious

>>26046282
>porcupine
>implying it's a badger
Kek.

>>26046236
Ok you cannot deny they have a pattern with the water starters. At least since Empoleon's. Feraligatr and Swampert are exceptions.

>>26046307
Based on a:
>porcupine.
Fixed that for you bro.

>>26046470
it is a badger

when did porcupines started having their spines only near the neck?

>>26046444
Spics ruin /vp/ during leak season. Build wall when?

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>>26046236
>Feraligatr
>Brass knuckles

>>26046487
>Pokedex says "Fire Mouse Pokemon"

Nah, mine is good

>>26046475
>1/3 of them are exceptions
come on dawg

>>26046337
>American Pokedex says mouse
>clearly Porcupine
Ugh, I wish this meme would die. It's a porcupine desi, stop saying otherwise.

>>26046516
Of course, because they aren't part of the sequence that clearly started with Empoleon. Blastoise too but he happens to fit the theme.

>>26046342
>Salamander and Porcupine
>Dragon and Porcupine
Fixed that for you.

>>26046487
>Porcupine
Umm, Cyndaquil is an echidna

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>>26046236
>Thinking badgers are rodents

>>26046535
Like the Journey to the West references?

>>26046499
It is a porcupine, dub cuck. Prove me wrong . Pro tip: You can't. It's more than obvious.

>>26046515
Nah, it's really not . Everyone knows that the pokedex is less than canon. It's beyond moot.

>>26046573
*cough*echidna*cough*

>>26046566
This meme is shit too. It is NOT an echidna, it is a porcupine.

>>26046579
The Pokedex is canon, just because sometimes it uses hyperboles it doesn't mean it isn't cannon

>waaah shellfish pokemon
mistranslated, in Jap it's just shell

>waaaah can melt the earth / as hot as the sun
hyperbole

>waaaah "mouse pokemon" is also a hyperbole
that doesn't make sense

qed

>>26046589
Refer to
>>26046590

>>26046566
Cyndaquil chuckles.

>>26046569
Honestly I don't think the zodiac thing was intended back then.
GF probably didn't actually notice it and tried continuing it until gen 4 or 5 if they are in the first place.

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>>26046590
>>26046600
Porcupine don't have the elongated snout

>>26046596
It is most certainly not canon! Even in the Japanese dex, it says Rayquaza never comes down to earth. Ever! That's no hyperbole. Also, it doesn't really say hotter than the sun, it says a specific temp, and it says plenty of untrue things, just look at Yanmega, who CAN'T learn fly! The pokedex has NEVER been canon. It's a porcupine, stop being triggerbait.

>>26046626
Right, and dogs don't breathe fire, and dragons don't exist, and, obviously, dragonflies can't carry people. That's not canon, the idea is. It's based on a porcupine, and the American version butchered the translation.

>>26046636
The Pokedex is canon

>keeps naming hyperboles as examples

>implying the description and the species are even the same thing

>>26046626
Or, y'know, it can be both you know? I mean it is Pocket MONSTERS, not Pocket Animals.

When Cyndaquil's fire is out, it resembles a porcupine.

>>26046688
coincidentally it also resembles an echidna, y'know, cuz spikes

>>26046671
The Pokedex also states that South America exists in the Pokemon World, that Slugma is as volatile as a small star and that Indian Elephants are a thing.

>inb4 Crabhammer for like, the 100th time

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>>26046688
>>26046626
IS A ELEPHANT SHREW

>>26046236
the water types arent based on weapons, they're all animals that spend time in and out of the water.

>>26046710
Echidna's don't raise their quills like Porcupines do. Which is why I said they were inspired by them.

It's also looks like a shrew. Which is why the Pokedex calls it the Fire Mouse Pokemon.

>>26046671
>Keeps mistaking statements for hyperboles
You must be 18 or older to post on 4chan desu. Get back to school. The pokedrx is not canon, deal with it. I refuse to argue about it, you're wrong. >>26046688
No, the fire quills are what make it a porcupine.
>>26046710
No, it doesn't.
>>26046720
Exactly!
>>26046747
That's why it's a porcupine! Cyndaquil can raise and lower its flames, because it's based on a porcupine.

>>26046272
GOON
O
O
N

>Cyndaquil
>Fire Mouse Pokémon
>Mouse and Rat are interchangeable in Japanese

What about that is confusing for nonzodiacfags

S/M's fire starter is going to be a deer and people will be swearing that it represents the ox in the zodiac because hooves & horns

>ungulate =/= ox

>>26046773
The fact that it's a porcupine, and not a mouse, and that it only says mouse in the American pokedex.

>>26046824
What does it say on the Jap Dex?

>>26046812
Nigga who are you kidding? There's going to be shitposting regardless of what we get.

>>26046513
>Wall USA-Spain, Argentina or Chile

TacoNarco its only Mexico, not rest of America

>>26046852
so true

>>26046307
All of these /vp/ autists don't get that a fox is a canine

>>26046836
The word ねずみ is vague and can basically refer to any member of Muroidea.

>>26046877
They don't even share the same genus.

>>26046890
>muroidea
You mean rodents?

I think it's justified anon.

>>26046236
I'd say feraligatr should have an axe

>>26046900
Doesn't make a fox not a canine (same family, Canidae)

>>26046900
Why would they stop the pattern at gen 6? They could have diverged from the zodiac thing a while ago. There are a lot of other animals they should have prioritized over a pig.

>>26046626
>>26046722

Take a closer look at that snout!

>>26046515
Japanese is just a category that includes mice and porcupines. Its a bad translation like shellfish. The body anatomy is obviously a porcupine or echidna

>>26046282
I can't answer about the knife fan, but foxes ARE canines, and it's not that all snakes are prehistoric. It's that each grass starter has in some way represented the progress of land based animals. Snivy's line shows snakes losing their legs.

>>26046747
Why not both?

>>26046767
>statements for hyperbole
The hyperbole in this situation comes in the form of statements

>>26046918
Porcupines are rodents

>>26047178
THAT MEANS THAT PORCUPINES ARE RATS; OMG EVERYONE; ZODIAC IS RIGHT

>>26047343
>rectangles are squares.
>it's in kingdom animalia therefore it's in the same category as rats

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>>26046236
>Sceptile is a raptor
>Feraligatr is brass knuckles

>>26046236
DEEPEST LORE Is how many Pokémon species are there.

>>26046661
How is a snout comparable to breathing fire?

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>>26047162
No! Pokemon can only be one thing!

>>26046236
>Leaf-tailed geckos are Dilophosaurs/Velociraptors
>Tortoises are Ankylosaurs
3/6 grass starters are reptiles found in the modern world and another one is a generic green monster you only relate to prehistoric beasts because the English name has 'saur' in it.

Also
>Feraligatr and Swampert
wut

>>26046236
I saw the same image on Facebook OP.

Borra tu hilo hijo de puta.

>>26047559
Don't spout memes you don't understand, Richard.

>>26047491
>2016
>Not knowing what sarcasm is

I swear, trolling /vp/ is way too easy.

The ones that dont make sense, ready?

-Typholosion
-Delphox
-Sceptile
-Serperior
-Feraligatr
-Swampert

>>26046236
>typhlsion
>mouse / rat

is this the worst of /vp/ forced memes?

>>26046236

i was about to say this mexican shit looks like a facebook post...then i read the filename...

>>26046301
>>presidential election

explain please

is it Jap presidential elections?

>>26046236
Have you seriously been pushing this shit onto other social media? It's one thing to shitpost on 4chan, but when you take it off site it just makes the rest of us look even worse, and we already look really fucking bad.

>>26046890
What it means in English is irrelevant.
What does matter is that it's the Japaneses word used for Rat in the Chinese Zodiac.

>>26046579
but it IS canon

>>26046236
Bump

>>26048772
>giving a fuck about what people think about 4chan

go back to red-dit, you motherfucking faggot

>>26046767
The Pokedex is canon, motherfucking idiot

>hurr but it uses exaggeration

The species part doesn't

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>>26051575
that pretty much debunks everything unless the water one evolves to a fighter jet and the grass one becomes another archeops. that being said they're fake anyway.

>>26046720
Considering Pokemon pretty much takes place in Japan (localizations should never be considered main canon) , I wouldn't put South America existing as something against the pokedex. It's obviously supposed to be an alternate version of our world with some things in common.

>>26046722
The elephant shrews snout is an actual shorter version of the elephant's trunk, they are related species. Cyndaquil just has a really long snout, but not that functionality.

>>26051575
It's fake. I can tell by the pixels.

>>26051592
The water one will probably be a viking so it will have an axe

>>26046301
Bait or these are actually theories?

>>26046236
Weasels and badgers are not rats.

Foxes are not dogs.

Charizard is a European dragon. Not a Chinese one.

>in b4 foxes are canines though!
Yeah, sure, but the Chinese zodiac is a dog, not a fox or any other canine.


Blastoise is a tank, not a bazooka

has anyone ever asked Gamefreak if they based the fire starters on the Zodiac?

>>26046301
iZombie is a great show

>>26046569
Large rodents are lumped together with feliforms in China/Japan for being "cat-like"
Sentret->Furret and Cyndaquil are based on this, and this "cat-like" joke is also used for Zizagoon->Linoone, as well as calling a mongoose a cat ferret.

>>26051775
Why do you guys still bother replying to zodiacfag threads? literally any and all logical arguments you can think of have been thrown at these dipshits and all of them have been ignoring. Why continue this shit?

>>26046963
One of the starters always seems to dip into pop culture. Penguins were really popular when D/P was released. Teacup pigs were all the rage when B/W came out. And for the last couple years foxes have been very popular, hence Fennekin.

Zzzzz for people "foxes are not dogs" Someone NEVER said that they must be exactly as the chinese zodiac, but actually to seems like and get bases on it

>>26051942
Wanna try that one in English this time?

>>26051942
> dont know how to use someone/anyone
> wants respect
> hoping it's a foreign

>Dragon
>Rodent
>Chicken
>Monkey
>Pig
>Canine

That still fits with the chinese zodiac

Calling it now, the next fire starter will be a member of the bovid family, therefore will count towards the Ox, whether its a bison, bull, goat, ram or antelope.

Apparently the Chinese zodiac doesn't have a dog and rat, but rather a canid and a rodent.

Why is it so FUCKING HARD for denialfags to accept the facts that Cyndaquil is meant to be a rat and not a badger?

>>26047923
Well, only the first stages are a gecko/turtle, Grovyle/Sceptile & Grotle/Torterra are closer to dinos than their modern counterparts.

>>26051985
Citation needed.

>>26052001
Sarcasm. Anons ITT are arguing that Cyndaquil counts as a rat because it's a rodent, and that Fennekin counts as a dog because it's a canid.
>>26051980 did a better job at pointing out how ridiculous they sound.

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>>26046375
Charizard takes the mythical approach but winged lizards do exist.

>>26051985
Since when is typhlosion even a rodent?

>>26051985
Both of those statements are true.

>>26051952
>>26051958
He's probably foreign, so don't go too hard on him, you'll probably suck at his native language.

>>26051747
>obvious clown motif
>hurr its viking u guise

>>26052193
Oshawott had an "obvious" clown motif, turned into a samurai.

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>>26046236
Fixed it for you.

>>26051747
I think you're right, it kind of looks like a viking boat with the fins as the paddles

>>26046282
You aren't smart at all

>>26046282
>>26046274
Fans with really sharp edges are used as/were weapons in some asian countries.
No idea about the knuckles though

>>26046444
you didn't make that pic

This is seeing something that isnt there. There is no theme, no zodiac, nothing. Fuck off with this BS

>>26052283
Bait

>>26051462
I've been here since before you knew what a computer was you little shit, don't give me that internet highschool clique horseshit.

>>26052366
The chinese zodiac theme is confirmed, retard.

>>26046236
¡EL TACO, OLÉ!

>>26054359
>implying pokemon can't be based on more than one animal