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>frail, slow, mixed attacker

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>frail, slow, mixed attacker
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>>26003094
>slow, bulky Ice type
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>slow defensive ice type
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>>26003094
So a low to medium BST mon with balanced stats?
Calling shitmons shit is redundant OP.
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>glass cannon
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>>26003094
>great hp
>no defenses
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>>26003164
>high speed
>solid attack
>shit movepool
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>defensive mon with no recovery options other than Rest
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>>26003164
WHY do they do this?
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>>26003200
I hope his mega gives him +50 defenses and Rock Head.
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>>26003200
Emboar is supposed to be Infernape 2.0 but Trick Room style
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>great special attack, solid stats all around aside from attack
>barely learns any good STAB special moves, yet learns fuck tons of high damaging physical moves

What's the point then?
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>>26003130
>>26003134
icemind
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>high mixed attack stats
>gets no good physical moves
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>good speed
>good special attack
>only knows physical moves
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>>26003263
Sceptile.jpg
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>>26003191

>Absolutely incredible/diverse movepool.
>Abysmal stat distribution to ensure it can't actually make use of it.
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>Great HP
>God-Tier Attack
>Good Special Attack
>Decent Defense and Speed
>Can't learn ANY good Physical STAB moves and barely any Special STAB

Why is Kyurem Black allowed to be like this?
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>has a nerfing ability
>it wouldn't be good without it
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>defensive rock type
>defensive ice typ
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>>26003349
>Physical Steal Type
>Physical Poison Type

That kids is why Fairy is broken
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>>26003240
Typhlosion, right?
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>>26003366
>Most Fairies have great Sp.Def but not Def
I'm not seeing the problem with this one
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>>26003524
Except Poison and Steel are only good at being special mon.
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>>26003499
It has good special STAB. Just shit special movepool outside of STAB
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>>26003543

Scizor and lucario say otherwise.
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>>26003094
>Specially oriented Normal-type
>Physical Electric-type
>Special Rock-type

why are these things allowed to exist
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>>26003564
Only special Lucario uses Steel STAB m8
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>>26003543
What?
Just about all Steel types are physical, and they're pretty good at it too.
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>>26003543
the number of physical steel-types far exceeds the number of special steel-types, which is just Magnezone and Heatran. I excluded Lucario and Cobalion because they can go either way.

however, you're right in that all the poison-types worth shit are special, with the exception of bughorse, beedrill and toxicroak 9who also learns nasty plot so that might be a moot point)
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>>26003607
Forgot Empoleon. Jirachi is in the same camp as Lucario and can go either way.

If you're including ubers then I guess you have a point since Aegislash, Dialga and Genesect would enter the fold
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>>26003564
>>26003607
Too bad most steel moves are special.
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>>26003295
Poor Arbok.
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>>26003670
http://www.serebii.net/attackdex-xy/steel.shtml
u wot m8
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>>26003670
>Doom Desire
>Flash Cannon
>???

vs
>Bullet Punch
>Iron Head
>Gyro ball
>Coldsteel
>Meteor Mash
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>>26003689
>>26003709
Could've sworn there was more.

God we really need more Steel Moves.
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>it's a Pokémon who can only function with weather support
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>>26003589
>he doesn't run iron tail
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Thinking of taking pokémon to /k/ and drawing a comparison to world weapons, things like tsar bomba in Ubers, just for perspective on how stupid this is
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>>26003589
>bullet punch
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>>26003680
and ledian
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>>26003543
Lucario, Aggron, Toxicroak, and Scizor all disagree.
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>>26003094
fug my nigga Eelektross
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>>26003164
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>>26003763
>Mega Swampert
>Mega Houndoom when it's ability is active, it loses HP too, so it's even worse
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So sad.
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>>26003630
Probopass, too.
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>>26003295
I died a little inside when I see Raticate's movepool for the first time.
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>>26003094
>most of gen 3's pokemon
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>>26003567
>Hating Specially oriented Normal type
Why hate on Porygons? They don't suck.
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>>26004434
>we will never get a special event for swampert and houndoom that give them drizzle and drought, respectively
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>>26007412
literally just cacturne and sharpedo
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>>26003366
Special Steel is complete crap, Flash Cannon sucks. Iron Head, on the other hand, is really great on fast Pokemon, while Gyro Ball and Heavy Slam have their niches.
>>26003567
>Exploud, Meloetta
>Zekrom, but yeah, physical Electric outside of unique moves is horrible
>no special Rock type learns Power Gem, so it's more like they don't exist at all
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>>26008570
Sharpedo isn't slow?
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>Flinch specializing Fairy Type
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>Dark type
>Physical attacker, secondary on both defenses
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>>26008713
>no special Rock type learns Power Gem
Probopass does, but you'd better off running Volt Switch
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> Mono Fire type
>Physical
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>gen 2 and 3 gimmick mons
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>middling Speed
>no movepool, can't use Scarf
>doesn't learn a Speed increasing status move
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>Pure grass type
>No movepool at all
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>Nice defenses
>Nice recovery options
>Nice stat-boosting options

>Bug/Flying
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>>26003130
>>26003134
Conceptually it makes sense, it's just that Ice type is absolute shit.
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>defensive, physical grass-type
>no movepool
>ground as secondary type
>slow as hell
>attack is barely over 100 points
why
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>>26011083
Arcanine is fucking amazing though.
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>>26003161
If it's fast, or at least wears a scarf well, then there's nothing wrong with that.
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>>26012793
Why would you use Arcanine offensively, and not to fuck up physical attackers?
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>>26003094
>Amazing special movepool
>Shit sp atk
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>>26003164
>abysmal defenses
>horrid hp
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>>26003200
Because Emboar's concept is based around recoil attacks.
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>>26003240
which mon is this? it isn't sceptile

>>26003288
sceptile knows leaf storm and dragon pulse, why would it need anything else?
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>>26012896
The only thing I can think of that's not Deoxys-A is Ursaring.
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>Great defense stats
>No HP
>Slow as fuck
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>>26012909
>has two shit offensive stabs, why would it need anything else?
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>glass cannon
>except they forgot the 'cannon' part
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>decent movepool
>decent stats
>decent ability and typing
>it's so average it's not worth using over something more specialized
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>Offensive steel
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>Great stats
>Great typing
>shit movepool
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>Fully evolved
>Thunderbolt, Ice Beam, Grass Knot, Shadow Ball and Hyper Voice as coverage
>Calm Mind, Cosmic Power, Wish, Thunder Wave, Heal Bell, Fake Out and Baton Pass for defensive/support moves
>Abilities aren't amazing but allow for shenanigans to take place if luck is on your side
>Base 55 Sp Att stat
>Both defenses and attack stat are just as bad
>Base HP is only marginally better
>Slow as dirt
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>>26013803
Who?

I thought it might be Persian, but it's not really that slow.
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>>26013838
Without looking it up, probably Delcatty
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>>26013351
Name 3 pokemon that fit this
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>>26012810
Arcanine @ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature
- Sunny Day
- Flare Blitz
- Will-O-Wisp
- Morning Sun
Got mostly great results with it.
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>>26011068
Why the fuck isn't it Rock/Electric with Levitate. Fuck Rock/Steel.
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>slow defensive poison type
>physical electric type
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>defensive pokemon
>horrible typing
>horrible movepool
>horrible stats
>great design
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>>26014018
Magcargo?
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>>26013939
Off the top of my head, Snorlax, Flygon, and Emboar work with those well enough.
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>>26014016
i have lost games to physical thundurus
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>>26013949
I use
Arcanine @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 HP / 80 Def / 176 SpD
Impish Nature
- Flare Blitz
- Close Combat
- Morning Sun
- Will-O-Wisp
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>>26013351
>>26013939

1. Arcanine. If you want an offensive attacker, Victini, Damranitan, and Entei are better. If you want a defensive fire-type, Heatran, Rotom-H, or even Talonflame and Moltres.

2. Togekiss. Jirahi is better for Paraflinching bullcrap, Latias and many others are better for Defog, Talonflame and Gliscor works better as a stallbreaker, and Clefable/Sylveon is better if you just want something that can spam Fairy type attacks.

3. Jellicent. God tier typing, great movepool, decent stats, but there are so many better options for your bulky water type. Gastrodon walls Suicune better and also stops Volt-Turn dead in its tracks. Suicune walls everything else better. Rotom-W beats it out in OU. Sableye is superior as a defensive ghost. Even in RU, Jellicent's home tier, most people prefer Slowking or Alomomola.
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>>26003094
Eelektross
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>>26014044
Bastiodon
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