FOR WHAT REASON

>>25901998
ledian is modeled after the guy who masuda's wife cheated on him with

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>>25901998

When were you under the impression that Game Freak knew what they were doing?

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>>25901998
>Johto Pokemon

>>25901998
Big deal, karenfag. Try using an Onix sometime.

>>25902061
Unlike Ledian, Onix can evolve and become (somewhat) useful.

>>25902061
My memory is a little fuzzy, but I'm pretty sure I managed to solo all of Jotoh with the onix you get from a trade. Don't know how the fuck I managed that with water route and special attackers.

I don't think I've ever seen one with an offensive move. I've only seen him used in random battles on Showdown and only ever with Knock Off and U-Turn as attacks

>>25902026
You're trolling.

>>25902061
Onix is great with an Eviolite

>>25902686
of course he's fucking trolling

Ledian was built to be an early game special wall

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>>25901998
FOR WHAT REASON

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>>25901998
>ledian gets an evo, NOT a mega
>fixes all the stats, and brings the BAT to 510
>gets extreme speed
>hidden ability: aerilate

>>25902780
Does any trainer even have one early game?

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>>25902898
>Gen 2 trainer
>using Gen 2 Pokemon
thanks for the laff m8

>>25902028
Let's dispel this fiction once and for all that Game Freak don't know what they're doing. They know exactly what they're doing.

>hurr why isn't every pokemon perfect

>>25902753
Is it really trolling if no one is expected to believe it?

>>25901998
Skill Swap that's what.

>>25903113
I'd settle for functional.

>>25902118
>hJoto
Ftfy

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>>25903113
name one thing Ledian can do that can't be done better by one of the other 720 pokemon

even Eviloite Ledyba is better simply by having more bulk

this thing gets cucked by fucking ledyba

>>25902898
There is a Sky Trainer in XY that has one at about level 20.

>>25901998
So Iron Fist doesn't make it too powerful :^)

>>25903193
It's this thing called a joke. You may or may not have heard of it, since friends tend to tell them to each other.

>>25903597
btfo

>>25901998
>pokemon is criticized for being too weak
>give it tools to not be so weak
>HURRDURR FOR WHAT REASON
learn how to game design, fag

>>25904497
>tools to not be weak
Surely you're joking

>>25902061
Onix is pretty decent in-game. It has great speed for a rock type, ground typing for electric immunity and stab magnitude/earthquake, access to Screech early on to make up for its lackluster attack, and great defense. All you really need to do is keep it away from grass/water and you're good to go.

>>25904497
It's putting lipstick on a pig, anon. A 20% boost is not very little when its base is so low.

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Still no regrets

31/31/31/x/31/31
Adamant
Iron Fist
Muscle band

>>25905126
absolute madman

>>25905126
I laugh at you now, but I also hope GF will vindicate you later.

>>25902061
Onix can work in lower tiers with eviolite as a physical wall.

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>>25905144
>>25905166
the best part is the shiny was an accident

>>25903288
it can be better than luvdisc

>>25905260
You sure you don't need some more Fighting type moves? You know, for coverage.

Mega Ledian soon.

Just you wait.

>>25905464
>lowers attack to 10

>>25905426
does it matter?

>Mega Ledian
>Big boost to special attack and speed
>Ability = Attack is equal to special attack or
All physical moves become special
Would you use it?

>Stunfisk
>Limber

FOR WHAT REASON

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>>25905806
Have you ever tried to fuck a fish?

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>>25901998
It's like they actively made it so that nobody would be able to use this thing.
Just like every rare Johto pokemon

>>25905483
>lowers attack to 30
Ability: Multiarmed, all moves hit 4 times in a row

>>25905853
>tfw Johto is my fav gen

forever a casual

>>25905806
gotta protect yourself from those bodyslams

>>25906254
He literally cannot be paralyzed anymore in Gen 6 unless you Soak him.

>>25903597
So you think /vp/ is your friend? That's more pathetic.

>>25906324
>replies to a comment several hours earlier with a poster that likely left already
>t-that'll show em to hurt my feelings ;_;

>>25906292
Can't paralysis move that aren't electric type still paralyze electric types?

>>25906540
NOt as of gen 6.

>>25905806
paralysis could still hit electric-types in gen5. that said, they should change it now to match the update. if they can boost g1 mons by +10 BST we can give stunfisk water absorb

>>25905865
Machamp and Hoopa-U say hi

>>25904947
Yeah, sure, except it's SpD is as pathetic as all it's other stats bar Def, so it can't take a whole sleuth of attacks even if it resists them.

Speaking of resists, it's only ever good if dealing with things it resists, so Normal, Flying, Poison, Rock, and Fire type, specifically physical attacks. Except Fire types are normally Special attackers, and Rock types usually pack Ground moves, and the others usually have other natural coverage moves anyway.

Actually just fucking forget about tanking weaknesses even physically, because it's Hp is as shitacular as every stat bar Def. That's 6 types, by the way, a full third of the type list that Onix automatically folds to.

Because it's Atk is effectively projectile vomit as well, again since everything bar Def is barely minimum, it also has the most trouble killing anything. This makes levelling up arduous because it has to almost die every time it tries to land kills, even when taking hits, it resists, to it's strongest stat.

It's 'pretty decent' like the sun is 'pretty cold'.

It's not. It's a thousand degrees of flaming shit.

I didn't even know Ledian had a special defense of 110.

Ledian is one of those Pokemon that is begging for a Mega. Basically turn it into a powerful but fast Heracross.

>>25901998

>tfw when Ledian is one of your favorite designs

A Mega would be all I ask for GF