PTCG/O General

>>25897362

What's the best theme deck to sink my points in?

>>25897467
Dark hammer, that's literally it

>>25897362
"4x Joltik
4x Lampent
4x Pumpkaboo
2x Shaymin
4x DCE
44x trainers"

What trainers should I use? What is the best way to discard those mons?

>>25897698
just getting into this deck, which series are the joltik, lampent and pumpkaboo from?

>>25897362
TRIGGERED

>>25897362
Currently playing Greninja BREAK.

It's a lot of fun, but I have a lot of bad luck with my opening hands. Sometimes the opponent gets 3-4 free draws.

How do you deal with this?

Can anyone tell me if opening the charizard EX red and blue collection box was worth it?
Out of the 4 packs,here are the holos I got:

Jirachi - RC13/RC32
Trainer Wally - RC27/RC32
Leafeon - EX 10/87
Charizard - RC5/RC32
Raichu - 27/83

And of course the jumbo and regular charizard and regular cards (with some holo versions, like jynx) Could I make my money back with these?
I'll post the TCGO card I got with it in a bit, should I post that as an image or just text?

Does anybody have any experiences with Sceptile-EX/Ariados?

It looks like fun.

>>25897756
phantom forces

>>25897698
4x battle compressor

personally i think the milotic version is best b/c you can get back DCE or puzzle of time to get more DCE

>>25897920
why can't you just do your own goddamn research?

>>25897362
ToTT:
>playing Night March
Milotic is the best by far. It's damn near unbeatable. This is from someone who doesn't play Night March though.

>anti Night March
It was Jirachi before puzzle of time made it useless. Now I guess it's Jolteon EX.

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So his the age of one turn lock finally subsided?

>>25898049
>Trevenant and Vileplume still top tier decks throughout all of states
>"subsided"

u avin a giggle?

>TOTT

Bronzong and Vespiquen, the former renders Aegislash-EX and Assault Vest a non-issue and the latter shits on Seismitoad-EX.

>>25897920

The only good cards that you got from it are Wally, Leafeon-EX (but only for resale value), and Raichu.

Resale-wise, Generations is just awful. The only cards worth more than 10 bucks are M Charizard-EX, Jolteon-EX, and Charizard-EX. And yes, that's taking the RH Basic Energies into account.

>>25898016
I run NM with Vespiquen, never tried it with Milotic desu.

>>25897362
Jolteon

>>25898049
Trevenant is the only deck that can come close to reliably countering NM so that alone makes it top tier.

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Reminder that if you're playing Standard or Expanded right now and have been doing so before Phantom Forces got released you have literally spent all of your time and money just to get fucked up by a seven year old child saying "night march" over and over.

>>25897939
>>25898016

Any good list with milotic?

>>25898427
>Expanded
Not really. HTL and Virbank and to a lesser extent, Darkrai EX, Sableye, Archeops, are much more meta defining than NM in Expanded.

>>25898427
>7 year olds
>piloting night march

>>25898140
>Trevenant is the only deck that can come close to reliably countering NM

I guess my idea for Aegislash/Bats won't work then.

>>25898546

It's not like either it's anything other than zero effort to pilot or Pokemon having any sort of player interaction at all.

Over half the time, anytime you lost to Night March WAS a seven year old child who copied the list off the internet, bought the cards with his mother's credit card and managed to demolish you with it.

>>25898581
stop posting things that never happened, the only way you can know this to be true is if you are the 7 year old.

>>25898581
Two things
1) NM isn't autopilot when one half of your matchups is the mirror and the other half is decks that counter yours
2) I don't know why any adult would be playing a seven year old

>>25898615

>2) I don't know why any adult would be playing a seven year old

>what is PTCGO

also

>NM isn't autopilot

>>25898581
stop forcing this narrative

>>25898655
>caring about PTCGO when it means nothing in the real world

and yeah NM isn't autopilot

>>25898655
lmao how do you know how old someone is over the internet familia?

>>25898670

>being perfectly fine with getting your arse handed to you by a child when you've put as much time and effort as you have into trying to play and improve

lmoa

>>25898679

>kids don't play a game targeted at kids

ok

>>25898714
>losing to NM
git gud

>>25898556
You get shit on bad by Sex Maniac.

>>25898714
>getting this annoyed at losing to children playing a children's game
"b-b-but I deserve to win because I spend a shit ton of money on a single card!"

Just because your deck costs more doesn't entitle you to win.

>>25898742

>implying I've played this shit for several sets now

at least the 'git gud' can apply to all of you who lose to a child playing NM, just outplay him in the game with no player interaction lol

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>>25898772

>just because you've spent more time, effort and money on the game to improve your card pool, learn more decks and get better at the game it's still perfectly fine to lose to a child playing an autopilot deck he found on the internet

pic related, it's you

>>25898779
You're the one getting ass-blasted about losing to kids playing NM.
If you were in any way competent you wouldn't be so butthurt.

>play the fucking game
>suddenly a connection problem
>check my connection, it works everywhere except the game

Does it me the faggot I fought alt+f4?

>>25898823

>this projecting

>>25898779
>no player interaction
>as I lock them out of items and force them to shuffle their hand into their deck every turn

Ayyylmao

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>TCG/O General fails to spot another troll or two.

Yeesh, this just makes me wonder if what WPM said about all that Google Analytics stuff is true.

>>25898849

Check your firewall connections, that might be the problem.

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>>25898856

>he doesn't know what player interaction means

You literally haven't played any other TCG, have you?

>>25898853
What am I projecting?
You're the one having an autistic shit fit over a children's game and getting beaten by kids.
It doesn't affect me so how can I be projecting anything?

>>25898890
>wonder
It's fact

>>25898898
>interacting with my player
>"that's not player interaction"

kek

>>25898902
>>25898890

here come the buzzwords folks, they don't have anything left

>>25898917

Confirmed not knowing.

>>25898890
wow nobody fucking cares you tripfagging loser.

>>25898925
The irony of this post is ridiculous

>>25898942
I play YGO, obviously PTCG has less interaction than other TCG's but it does have some interaction

>>25898961

learn what irony means sunshine

>>25898969

It has none, the last time there was player interaction was Alakazam (Mysterious Treasures) and Power Spray (Platinum)

>>25899007
Player interaction doesn't mean interrupting your opponent on their turn. Forcing your opponent into an action over which they have no say is an interaction. Which includes several cards.

>>25899056

Seconded, the effect those cards have still exist in the TCG today (in the form of Hex Maniac and Garbodor DRX/PLF/BREAKpoint).

Although he's probably talking about ACTIVE player interaction, which is technically true.

>>25899106
It's just an argument over semantics. None of it really matters. The point is if you're losing to incompetent NM players you're just as bad if not worse than them.

>>25899056

Okay. Let me spell it out for you since that's now become necessary.

The second your turn ends, there is absolutely nothing more you can do to influence your opponent's actions until your turn begins again. There are no counterspells, no triggered actions, nothing that can be done 'in response' to something, etc. etc. Barring direct restrictions like item lock and Hex Maniac, there is absolutely nothing stopping your opponent just taking their full turn. You sit there and wait for their turn to finish. You may have to reshuffle your hand in (Judge) discard cards (Delinquent, various cards like Enhanced Hammer) but you cannot do anything to stop this.

If your opponent wants to use Shaymin's Set Up with zero cards in hand, they are absolutely free and safe to do so because Counterspell effects like Power Spray do not exist now. They don't have to worry about Mega Evolving a Pokemon only for their Spirit Link to be discarded in response because no such thing exists.

In case I really haven't driven it home, here's how a turn goes on. Each 'okay' is you letting them know you know they've done that and you haven't lost track somehow.

>attach energy to Yveltal
>okay
>attach Muscle band
>okay
>Lysandre the shaymin
>okay
>enhanced hammer on your gallade's DCE
>okay
>play down parallel city
>okay
>ultra ball for shaymin

etc. etc.

>>25899106

>Although he's probably talking about ACTIVE player interaction, which is technically true.

this guy gets it.

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Got pretty lucky with my pulls today, with a Charizard box

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So do we know what the new shiny Yveltal-EX does or nah? Is it a reprint of the Y Cyclone one or an entirely new card?

>>25899358
>only 3 FAs
not really lucky at all.

>>25899358
I fucking love cards that tell a short story

>>25899359
reprint of Y Cyclone

>>25899358
What does RC means in the card number?

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>>25899359
>Is it a reprint
It's most likely a reprint, which I hope it is.
Adds a little more style to my Yveltal deck

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I'm strongly considering making this, but I want y'all's input first

>>25899404
Radiant Collection, mini series within Generations

>>25899435
lmao

>>25899380
The flavour texts are also written by the boy about his trials with his charmander

>>25897918
>>25897933
Anything?

>>25899444
Mirin those digits
I take that lmao as a complement because this is purely a "fun" deck

>>25899466
why ask for input if it's for fun, just go and make meta fags cry in standard.

>>25899485
Well I'm not sure if I'm missing something that will make the tears flow harder

How many packs is FA Yveltal worth? I can't find an answer anywhere.

>tfw you pull a tradelocked FA Skyla...

>>25899635
about 11

use
http://forums.pokemontcg.com/topic/25163-the-top-cut-trading-inc-2/

It's very useful

>>25899727
>http://forums.pokemontcg.com/topic/25163-the-top-cut-trading-inc-2/
dead link

>>25899765
Log in to whatever you pokemon account is

>>25899765
Not dead, but you have to login to see the thread.

Also use those prices as reference very loosely, because
a) it's not updated that often
b)it's the price the trading company is asking and they want to turn a profit

most of the time you won't be able to sell for that much

>>25899414
I take it that means there's going to be a Xerneas reprint then?

>>25899727
And for YGZ, is 2 or 3 Yveltal-EX preferred?

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>>25899881
2

>>25899881
0-1, really.

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esaelp sllup tsoP

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>>25900384

there is no better feeling than having a shitty hand, knowing that you'll never be able to take all the prizes and then stalling as your opponent decks out because they're playing basic red and have drawn all of their cards

>>25900384
>tfw once again some sneaky anon doesn't post their pulls

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>>25900538
Damn shame. They weren't even valuable packs.
At least 1 did :c

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Wow, WPM...

Too bad this box is probably a one-off, I'd love to see more of these show up in stores.

>>25900747
>strong attack
>but it's dark, which means Yveltal is always better

They did the same thing with Palkia's promo.

>>25900747
Did you buy it?
If you did, slap that shit on ebay as fast as you can

>>25900771
I'm sure someone will try to slap it in Darkrai/Hypno.

>>25901001
It's designed for Max Elixir and Yveltal, but each of those are better used for Dark in every possible scenario.

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anyone buying a box of Fates Collide this May?

I plan to. . .it'll be my first booster box.

>>25901088
If they keep the weighed code cards.

>>25901097
explain

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>roommate leaves town for the weekend
>collects baseball cards, knows nothing about Pokemon cards
>knows that I collect Pokemon cards
>he sends me text pic of a Flash Fire pack he bought last night, asking me if it is rare
>saw it was $7, tell he prolly got gipped
>I assume it was weighed
>comes back from his trip tonight
>opens back up
>pulls this

Buying it from him for $25

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>>25901244

code btw

>>25901244
you said 6 dollars the first time.....

>>25901162
If they do away with the weighed code cards I get better bang for my buck weighing than getting a box.

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>>25901322
I iz said roommate. Story is 100% legit. I bought the pack at a card shop in Fargo desu. U just jelly of the pokeswag

Any decks that use Sylveon EX?

>>25901244
It's just Charizard Y, not even the SR.
It doesn't go for much.

>>25901088
Plan to split case with friends

>>25901390
You could maybe use it as a tech in a MGardevoir EX deck

>>25901730
I'm shit at math. how much per pack is a case? Like 2.50?

>>25901872
Let's say you get a box for $95 online, that's roughly $2.64 a pack

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>>25901088
Probably considering getting two since I really like this set.

>>25900902

It was posted on WPM's Twitter, so no.

>>25901730

I'm planning on splitting a case with a friend for reselling so there's that.

>>25901953
so getting case doesn't really get one much of a discount compared to buying a box?

>>25901088

Yea depending on how much hobby money I have available I always buy 1 or 2 booster boxes when a new set comes out. I also buy whichever 3 pack blisters come out with pins in them, because I enjoy collecting the pins. Then I just buy any singles that I still want for making decks and actually playing the game.

>>25901985
I'm planning on making a deck out of what I get to play at the LGS. Since the age range is all over the place there, I figure I'll just make something that'll be fun for me to play.

>>25902038
Mhm, but I if you save $5 on a box thats an extra pack you can buy elsewhere.

>>25901390
a whole Sylveon EX deck won New Hampshire States Junior div. Lot's of healing & switching for more bulk than it really has. Clever little deck, I've been using it on the versus ladder and there's not much that beats it too easily, and no-ones ever ready to face fairy.

4 Sylveon-EX
3 Aromatisse
3 Spritzee
2 Shaymin-EX
1 Lugia-EX
1 Jirachi

4 Professor Sycamore
3 Professor Birch's Observations
2 Judge
2 Lysandre
3 Fairy Garden
4 Fighting Fury Belt
4 Max Elixir
4 Puzzle of Time
4 Ultra Ball
4 VS Seeker
1 Super Rod

11 Basic { Fairy } Energy

>>25900747
I can see ways to maybe make use of it in expanded.

>>25902864
>this deck
>when fairy drop comes out

muh dick

Any of you cool dudes have Yveltal-EX FA for trade?

this new vs wheel + challenges makes playing a lot of fun (especially if the challenge is either evolve/ damage)

>>25902864
Thanks man! Do you know which Jirachi this deck uses?

>>25903737
The promo Stardust one

The premium Champion set will be released at some point here right? Shaymin EX its to pricey

>>25903916
Probably

>>25903916
Definitely, they wouldn't let just Japan have legal reprints of such staple cards. Having excessively different metas between countries is out of the question.

>>25903948
i guess i'll start saving for a couple of boxes

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>>25903948
Yeah, there's never been a Japan-exclusive product before.

>>25904071
Well, a shitty box with non holo ex it's a lot different from a complete reprint set, we got ex battle boost as legendary treasures. So the odds are on our side

>>25904071

I think he's referring to there being a Japan-exclusive SET, products like the Master Deck Build Boxes are an exception.

>>25903568
You bet! Nothing beats winning 9 matches and getting a grand total of three mystery prizes.

Especially when you got 2 of those 3 after your third win and then proceeded to defy the odds and land on either of the 2 you've already claimed the next 5 times. It's great!

Is there a theme starter deck with N? Vs Seeker? How to get these?

>>25904212
>Is there a theme starter deck with N?

The NVI Theme Decks have one N each and the Fates Collide Theme Decks might have one as well, the Red Genesect Collection deck has two, but good luck finding one of those.

>Vs Seeker?

Nope, that's one of the reasons why it's so expensive.

>>25904071
Those aren't even reprints by the way. They're like the Battle Arena decks. So you missed the point of my comment entirely.

>>25904273
Are any of these on TCGo? I swear I was playing someone on the Theme versus ladder and got N'd nearly shit myself

>>25904356

The NVI Theme Decks are, there are also a couple of Basic Decks with 'em.

>BW Basic Blue (2)
>Basic Orange (2)

Sadly, those two Basic Decks are no longer available to new players.

>>25904412
Binder Guy are you that card trader that carries around boxes full of binders around the WA state tournaments?

>>25904422

Nope, the only time I've been to a WA tournament was for PRs (DRX and PLB).

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>>25904428
Oh I see, this is your Binder Guy twin in WA then!

>>25904412
I guess I missed them. I don't see Noble victory anywhere, thats supposed to be Escavalier deck right?

>>25904440

Jesus, I carry a maximum of 4 binders at max...

>>25904449

It's in both NVI decks, one features Escavalier and the other features Accelgor.

>I don't see Noble victory anywhere.

If you're looking in the shop, there's your problem. The only way to get the NVI decks (or any pre-XY theme decks) is to buy the code card that gives you one.

>>25902864
I was actually about to build this since I forgot how fun Junior Division could get

Is there a replacement for Jirachi, though? I can afford one, but the FA reprint is on the way and I don't want to drop 40 packs for something that won't even cost 2 in a few months

And is there any reason why this guy doesn't run DCE? Sylveon and Lugia both benefit from it.

Nooby, whats the best way to retrieve a double colourless or double dragon energy from deck?

>>25904779
Teammates
Solrock 83/160 (don't run this)

Other than that, you can use Battle Compressor, then play Puzzle of Time, Milotic 44/160, or use a Pokemon like Garchomp 70/122

>>25904779
Misty's Determination

>>25904819
>>25904808
Thanks for the help

>>25897918
Play Judge. That's pretty much it.

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Given the choice between the HGSS and SR version of a card, which would you go for?
I have a playset of both, but I can never decide which one to run. The HGSS ones just look nicer, but the SR ones match all my other trainers and are a lot shinier.
I'm talking about online, by the way.

>>25905380
Online literally no one cares. Sorry.

>>25905470
Cosmetics are for personal enjoyment, anon. I couldn't care less what other people think.

Which is why I was asking for which you preferred, not which was better.

>>25905492
Online I don't care at all. That's what I was going for. If I grinded to get my cards shiny in a buggy game that holds no merit whatsoever, I would probably question my decisions in life.

However if I had to choose which to play in real life, I would choose the newer ones. For some reason, I don't like it when other Pokémon unrelated to the deck I'm running show up in cards I play. Also dat texture.

>>25905470
rude

>>25905513
B-but I apologized

>>25905380
Go with HGSS, they have a lot more character to them than just generic gold stuff

>>25905543
That's actually why I even consider them. Between having Pokemon on them and that nice watercolor instead of lmao5ban makes them look so much nicer.

Are tradable XY packs won in tourneys worth holding onto, or just crack it for a shot at something that can be traded? It looks like no one deals in them anymore on public trade, and just won 1 of them for winning a tourney. I won't open the breakpoints atm, but not sure about the XY.

>drawing nothing but pokemon
>finally draw my second energy of the game after 12+ turns
>use a move that discards the top card of the deck
>its the one card i needed to possibly stage a comeback

>>25906283
curious about this as well

cracked and opened my furious fists and phantom foces boosters yesterday.

>>25904774
Max elixir benefits from as many basic energies as possible though. Plus fairy garden and aromatisse and the Sylveon attack you'll be using over and over all lose synergy if you introduce DCE.

As for Jirachi, Aegislash-EX can serve a similar function but its really not ideal. Nightmarch/Toad/Dragons will give you more trouble

>>25905380
>5ban graphics vs actual artists with actual pokemon
HGSS cards are a lot cooler, I think they managed to nail the Gold/Silver pokemon style with this set.

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God, I fucking hate this new wheel.

How do people stand this game when a lot of decks try to lock the opponent down within the first turn so they can't actually fight back.

>Make it to the final
>Time to next round 0:00
>Other side of bracket not displaying results

Its been like this for 10 minutes or so now, what do?

>>25907940
Because in Pokemon there are two types of decks, aggro steamroll decks and stall lockdown decks. There's little to no in between. There won't be for a long time.

>>25907959
Wait a bit longer. It happened for me once but eventually the new game popped up.

Is Hydreigon-EX worth picking up? My locals is having a sale on it, $3 for a full art, and I want to know whether it's worth getting a copy or 2.

>>25908060
Reshiram/Giratina EX is a decent deck and it plays 2.

>>25908060
It's a semi-staple in Dragon decks that need it.
Problem is, there aren't any good Dragon decks right now. Some decks run Tyrantrum or Giratina, and M Fug decks use the Dragon non-mega to dodge weakness, but none of those decks have been performing well. And if a new Dragon gets printed, there's no guarantee that it'll need free retreat. So there's a reason it's only $3.

On the other hand, M Garchomp is about to come out, we still haven't gotten M Salamence or M Latias, and there's a chance M Ampharos and M Sceptile might get a reprint with the correct typing.

>>25908091
>>25908093
I have $110 store credit there, so I guess I'll just grab 2 just in case. I really do hope we see a good Mega Garchomp!

>>25907999
It did indeed pop up about 2 minutes after posting. Basic Blue gets me more free packs.

How do I look through someone's wants when looking through their trade binder?

>>25908196
Go to your side of the trade
Filter it to only show Wants

I'm planning to build a Mew-Jolteon EX-Glaceon EX (with Mew and Glaceon from Fates Collide) next month on PTCGO.
Should I grind now for the Jolteon EX cards? Will the price go up next month?
And how much is it worth now? 15 RS packs?

>>25908318
As someone who has gone through 50+ Jolteon, I've been selling them for 20-30 RS each easily. If you can find one for 20 or less, you should take that instantly because you can spin it for 10 packs profit easily.

Its value probably won't go down now that the Charizard box has come out. If anything, Glaceon showing up will push the price up a bit, but I doubt it'll ever go for more than 30.

>>25908357
Thank you
I decided to wait, to see if the Charizard box could lower the price, but if this is the situation i guess it's time to work for this card

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Every time I try to open PTCGO I get stuck on this. I just reinstalled it. What the FUCK

>>25908578
>durr how do i take screenshot durr

>>25908578
Is this the android version? I imagine it is buggy as shit.

>>25908604
No it's on my PC. Windows 10

>go second
>lose

Cool game

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Post

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Pulls

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If you want

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>>25908913
>>25908918
>>25908935
I got 5 and I'll post what I got friendo

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>>25908967
1

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>>25908989
2

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>>25908995
3

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>>25904071
japan prints some crazy shit sometimes.

this gift box had 2 gold stars and 2 ex cards.

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>>25908998
4

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if someone was looking for a cheap mewtwo full art, some guy on ebay is selling one for $28

http://www.ebay.com/itm/182084360698?

PTCGO for Android tablets is out on apkmirror but still needs registration to the best test.

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>>25909006
5

Not the most exciting packs but hey I got some trainers that I needed. Thank you very much

>>25909009
>if someone was looking for a cheap mewtwo full art, I am on ebay is selling one for $28

>>25909022
nope, i'd kill myself if i lived in utah. just trying to help out someone with their mewtwo collection

i can post my ebay links if u want :)

>>25909061
post them

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>>25909061
i keep some deals for myself though. holy shit what a steal.

>>25909071
http://www.ebay.com/sch/idontkno23/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=

here u go senpai. dont have anything great up now though.

>Playing against a M Mewtwo-EX deck
>They play Shrine of Memories
>I play Delinquent
>"Really!!!!!!!!!!!"
>Conceded

I love this card so much

>Double sleeve your cards
>Becomes super annoying to shuffle them

I hate this.

>>25909297
I love delinquent. I hope we get a FA of her, I would even buy the physical one.

>>25907871
>can get up to 10 mystery boxes a day
>boxes can have 100 tokens
>even 375 tokens from time to time
>can even get packs

Ok, is there something I'm missing here?

>>25909474

they all contain 1 tournament ticket and after 3-4 wins you land on the same already opened box over and over again

>>25909616
this.

keep getting authorization failure.

server maintenance or something?

>>25909616
>>25909701
I have the feel that, if you generally play not more than an hour per day on VS ladder, this new wheel is richer than before

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With DS3 coming out in 5 hours, I don't think I'll be able to do it

The game kicked me out, and it doesn't let me get back it, it says I'm putting a wrong username/password, and the TPCi page for Forgot Password doesn't word. Am I the only one with this problem?

>>25909781
2000 is too much to me, how many matches does people here play everyday to get to 2000?

>>25909918
15 wins per day and you'd reach 2000-ish by the last day. I think. Math am hard.

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So I was about to start building this deck, buuuuuuut then I realized I have no idea what to put in it or if it could even be usable.
Anyone have a suggestion?

>>25910011
Depends on what sort of gimmick you'll be using

What happens if you make a deck without any basic pokemon?

>>25910011
Either run it with Plasma Chandelure to accelerate energies and put damage counters down, or just run it with Emboar and play it like Blastoise/Kyurem with Beaches.

Except, it turns out Outrage Reshiram is a better partner for either of those accelerators, especially since Dragon typing is pretty shit.

>>25909825
Login servers are down it seems.

I can't get back in either.

>>25910034
You get to constantly shuffle and annoy your opponent until they concede. It's fun

>>25909616
>they all contain 1 tournament ticket
I just opened 3 that had 50 tokens, 2 tickets, and 100 tokens. IDK man, maybe your just unlucky.

>after 3-4 wins you land on the same already opened box over and over agai
Well, yeah, but you're still getting more boxes than you would have before. unless you were playing a huge number of games a day or something.
For players that only play 15 or less a day this is a huge boon.
I for one have been getting tokens at an extremely faster rate.

>>25910059
>Plasma Chandelure
I don't think that is going to work when I only have one...
>Emboar
Ok, well yet again, I've got no idea how to put that together. I've tried Google, but I haven't found any deck lists.
>Except, it turns out Outrage Reshiram is a better partner for either of those accelerators
It is? Well, I guess I'll just stick to that then.

>>25910099
>Ok, well yet again, I've got no idea how to put that together. I've tried Google, but I haven't found any deck lists.
Just look up Blastoise/Keldeo.
Replace Blastoise with Emboar.
Replace Keldeo/Black Kyurem with Reshiram/White Kyurem (but obvs keep Keldeo)
And that's it

>>25909781
>tfw stuck on the chest because i decided to play tournaments instead
I'M NOT SORRY

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just came in the mail. will post results soon.

>>25910750
Oh shit, let's just hope that it is his actual collection, and not just the rest of what was left of his collection after he sold the valuable cards.

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>>25910750
i think this is probably all of the URs im gonna pull out of here. got some nice tins out of it and all of the bulk is in mint so I'll make money back.

I recently got a job where they sell some packs of pokemon card booster packs for dirt cheap prices even without my discount.
They only really sell "BREAKPOINT" booster packs, a few tins with hoopa and rayquaza on, etc. Its been a while since I played the TCG, is anything valuable in these packs?

>>25910929
What about the holos and whatnot?
Your thoughts on your buy?

>>25910996
havent gone through all of the holos, i dont think i've seen anything too expensive yet though. i'd probably value the entire lot at like $85 or so, pretty happy with it.

>>25911017
Sounds good then! If you don't mind, please share the holos, especially if they are from the wizard/ex set, those are my favorites.

>>25910995
>Breakpoint
I hold the opinion that this set is actually decent as a whole, worth buying a few boosters since you're getting them cheap.

>Hoopa EX and Ray EX promo tins
If these are the ones with the promo EXs on the top, get the Hoopa one just for Hoopa. They also come with 2 Ancient Origins, 1 Roaring Skies and 1 Primal Clash I think so that's alright.

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>>25911039
here are the holos worth showing off

total ~40 holos + 9 URs. sadly like 20-30% of the holos are in poor condition.

>>25911478
51$ was a great deal I'd say, cheers.

>>25901088
I'm on the same boat. I'll make sure to pay this months credit balance, and rent. Then if I have enough after that (which I should) I'll buy one booster box. It would be my first too.
I'll probably weight them but open them all anyway, I'll post the table for other anons.

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>>25905380

How rare are the Nature season sleeves, coin and deckbox? theres literally none on the public trade so I want to know if its worth putting a big trade on for mine.

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sooooo... anyone pull any nice physical EX or FAs over the weekend?

just pulled FA skyla, 2 break raticate and 1 break greninja.

from my fucking tradelocked packs....

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>>25912564
I just been getting back in TCG some months ago, been collecting mostly ancient origins but even with the 5 full arts I have, it feels like I'll never complete the set.

>>25912764

yeah, I might pick up an AO booster box this weekend. they have a fuck to of EX FAs, and I like a lot of them

>>25909392
If you use KMC sleeves that's not a problem

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>>25912564

I was at the league at the local LGS on Sunday. They had 12 Roaring Skies packs left in a box and the owner told me no one had pulled anything good from them yet. I buy my boxes from them and sometimes buy packs as well. I trust them to not rip me off with weighed packs because I have been going there for a decade, am a friend with most of them outside of the LGS, and the main reason is they don't sell singles. I bought all 12 packs and got pic related. I've had plenty of good pulls before but I think this was the best I've ever had in that small a number of packs. It was a good day.

>>25912840

I included the Zapdos in the picture, just because I am a big Zapdos fan. Managed to pull a FA Zapdos out of a Celebi Mythic Collection a month ago, was psyched about that.

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>>25912781
I REALLY want to pull the jungko full art by myself, even if I need to buy all the other cards I'm missing. I just don't have any luck lately with AO, sadly. Breakpoint has been way nicer to me, though, I was ecstatic when I pulled the fucking Ho-Oh, since it's the card I wanted the most in the collection. So far I've opened 22 packs of breakpoint and I've pulled 8 ultra or better, which is insane (though I've got a bent Greninja break directly in the pack, which is pretty damn frustrating).

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trying to connect on the Android client and the servers are apparently offline.. or is it just me..?

>>25912882
>Jungko

Fuck, I meant Sceptile. I mix up the French and English names sometimes, sorry about that.

>>25913002
obtenir une bonne

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>>25913002
Whats up fellow frenchfag.

I heard french cards are worth a little more than english cards, do you know by how much on average?

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>>25913357
While I cannot help you much, I do feel like the prices of french cards tend to be higher than English ones, yes, at least for the current XY ultra rare cards.

I also opened one pack of primal clash in my machamp tin (which is weird since every power trio tin I've seen contained only breakpoint) and got this... and I'm kind of sad I didn't pull that sweet sweet ancient trait holo Swampert, though I can't say I don't like that Kyogre.

>>25913357
>>25913471
if you can speak english why not buy those cards? made in the same factory.

What cards will you miss the most come September?

I think I'm gonna miss Manectric EX and his mega the most

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>>25909297
>be in a bad spot against a guy about to mega evolve and get a prize
>he has his link on his pokemon
>plays his mega evolution
>passes turn immediately without attacking
>"WTFFF??!!!?!?!?"
>mfw people don't read breakthrough Yveltal

I want to buy my first booster today, bought my first theme deck a while back. Whats the best pack for money right now? I'm so excited, thanks for any help.

>>25913885
It all depends on what cards you want. If you want to just buy a pack to get cards, then any pack is worth it.

>>25913885
I would say breakpoint or breakthrough if you want to buy a booster to pull something, since there's always the possiblity to get a break card in the reverse spot.

>>25913885

If you really want boosters rather than buying singles, then Roaring Skies are best packs for money cause of that chance of pulling Shaymin. If you buy individual booster packs from big stores like Toys R Us, Wal-Mart, Target, etc or from a LGS that sells singles there is a pretty good chance packs have been weighed and your chance of getting good pulls is reduced. Whatever you buy I hope you get some awesome stuff though.

>>25913961
Weighed? Is there such a thing as Roaring Skies Booster Box?

>>25914176

Yea, with single booster packs people can literally weigh the packs on a digital scale (there are accurate, small ones that can fit in your pocket) and super rares and full arts weigh more. So people can fairly accurately go into a Walmart weigh the packs and buy the ones that are heaviest to more reliably get good pulls and leave bad pulls in the store.

There is a Roaring Skies Booster box, but they just recently stopped printing them so their price is rising and will probably need to order them online or through a LGS that has good distributor connections.

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>>25913471
The dex entry on the psychic card looks like an extension of kyogre's splash, and gives it a faint 3D effect.
Have some codes.
Post pulls.

collect here. I really wanna pull some EX FAs this weekend. would I have better luck just buying a Booster Box, or should I just get a bunch of Premium boxes and tins?

>>25914379
Just buy the singles you idiot

>>25914450
This

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>>25914331

>>25914450
>>25914502

this

>9 hours of maintenance announced again
>on my day off that I was planning to get my last 20 wins
KILL ME

How much ladder points does a win give I swear it's 15 sometimes and sometimes 10 how is it determined

>>25914264
Is there any boost boxes in print? What are those boxes in Walmart with like a card in the middle that aren't theme decks?

how much are call of legends packs worth?

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>getting first in multiple standard tournaments in a row

>>25914905
10 is usual. Unless it's deemed your opponent has the advantage (hidden ELO better than yours), in which case you get 15 for overcoming it.

>>25914949

A booster box is just a sealed (or at least it should be sealed when you buy it) box of booster packs. There are 36 booster packs in a box. Ancient Origins, Breakthrough, and Breakpoint are in print. Fates Collide is the next set to come out and will be in print next month.

Depends what you are seeing at walmart. You are probably seeing the metal tins with the card you can see in the front. They include the promo card you can see and 4 booster packs of varying sets from around when the tin was released.

will roaring skies or phantom forces boxes every be a reasonable price again or do i just have to stump up the cash?

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>>25915546
>buying boxes

>opponent brings himself down to 0 cards
>topdecks exactly what he needs 2 turns in a row

>>25915614
>having no money

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>Every time I play against a deck that uses Wally they always have it in their starting hand
>Try building a deck that uses Wally
>Can never start with it even when running 4 Acro Bikes, Trainers' Mail, Bikes, and Roller Blades

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>>25915648
>spend upwards of $90 on a box
>get about $30 in bulk
>pull 5-7 ultra rares that go for $2-$6 each
>pull 1-2 full arts that go for $7-$15 each
>only break even if you're lucky
>making a profit nearly impossible

And of course PHF and ROS, the best boxes to buy because of VS Seekers + Battle Compressors and Shaymin EX respectively, are even more expensive, making the risk even greater. You could buy two full art Shaymin EX's or two playsets of RH VS Seeker at the same price of a booster box of either set.

You can have money without being stupid about spending it, famalam.

>>25915546

They are out of print, so they will more than likely not drop in price anymore and only continue to climb as years go on. Just have to look at prices of past booster boxes to see that.

>>25915741
>everything is about turning a profit

>>25915707
>be me
>running 4 VS Seeker
>and 3 Battle Compressor
>open Wally every time

feels good man

Why would one run Wally over evosoda

>>25915828
>You can use this card during your first turn or on a Pokémon that was put into play this turn.

Just once I'd like to win the opening coin toss in this cancer client.

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>>25915786
>spending money on things that are worth less than what you paid is ever justified

>>25915868
you're stupid if you think card games are all about spending money the correct way.

>>25915828
>you can be locked out of trainers and not supporters
>vs seeker
>also you can FUCKING EVOLVE TWICE with Wally and use it on your first turn

DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

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>>25915979
>TCG's are about wasting money

Found the idiot

>>25916018
holy shit
fuck off

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>>25916167
You keep acting stupid
I'll keep posting reaction gifs

>>25915868
>the value of an object to the buyer is equal to the value of the money they spent on it
Someone needs to take an economics class

>he doesn't weigh packs at a dollar store

Spending 20 bucks for more than likely more than that plus some commons and uncommons to boot. Why would you not do this?

>>25916235
That's not the point dummy

You spend $90-110 or more on a random box.

There's a 90% chance that the contents of the box will be valued at less than $90, meaning you lost money. This is always a negative outcome that cannot be spun in a good light.

There's a 7% chance that the contents of the box will be valued at approximately $90-110, meaning you broke even. Now, if you didn't need any of the bulk for your own personal use, you just have to sell it, which takes time and work. So if you factor that in, you may have broke even on resell value of the box's contents but now you've also paid money to give yourself a chore.

Then there's a remaining 3% chance you made a profit. This is always preferable because now you've effectively made money by spending money. You may only make about $10-$20 in profit, but profit is profit.

Now, the stupidity of a gamble is directly related to the chances of breaking even or making a profit. If 9 out of every 10 boxes is going to end up losing you money, the gamble is very obviously stupid.

And that's where we are now in PTCG. The market is oversaturated and most of the cards TPCi prints are garbage.

>>25916254
Because chances are high someone else already did this.

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help me fix my shitty Yveltal deck

>>25916524
you're an economic robot incapable of joy or thinking from another perspective, fuck off and deactivate.

>>25916524
They come in boxes of piles of packs, and the ones with foil are obvious. Last one I went to spent 15 bucks got FA Archie, FA Gardevoir, Kyogre, Aggron, Crawdaunt, Manaphy and a reverse Bunnelby.

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>>25916533
First off, Max Elixir and Battle Compressor are directly contradictory, and with only 8 energy in the deck, I'd focus on the Battle Compressor + Oblivion Wing strategy.

Secondly if you're not running Gallade I would beef up the Zoroark line to 3-3-1 so Electric doesn't fuck your shit up.

Next, I would consider dropping AZ for Hex Maniac or Judge. Or even Delinquent. But if you run Delinquent you also need to run at least 1 Reverse Valley.

Stick in a Super Rod and Startling Megaphone.

You'll want more draw power, so you'll need Trainer's Mail and Acro Bike.

>>25916564
Wasting money is stupid, I didn't say it wasn't fun. Plenty of people have fun wasting their money on the lottery and casinos every goddamn day, but to say what they're doing is not stupid is also, well, stupid.

The only reason I kept replying in the first place was the original assertion that because I said buying boxes is stupid, because it is, I must therefore be poor. As if having money implies it's okay to waste it, and anyone not stupid enough to waste their money has no money.

Have another gif.

>>25916533
I don't like Zoroark Break
I don't like Max Elixers really
Enhanced Hammers are odd
2 baby Yveltals is enough
The compressors aren't as powerful as they could be

I would add gallades and Maxies Hidden Ball trick and tick up the compressors to 3

Abandon the Max Elixer strategy unless you are really in love with it

>>25916672
>2 baby Yveltals is enough
Baby Yveltal is your saving grace against Night March. It is arguably the best card in the deck.

>>25916636
do you ever stop to consider that some people aren't looking to make a single cent of the booster box money back or?

>>25916700
No, I don't stop to consider that people are stupid enough to throw money in the garbage. But if they ever consider it to be potentially a good idea, of course I'm going to be there to convince them it's not. If someone still insists on wasting money, well, I certainly can't stop them. But I wouldn't think very highly of them either.

>>25916744
Aren't all forms of entertainment essentially throwing money in the garbage?

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>tfw I buy packs just for the thrill of opening them

I think its fun

>>25916744
you strike me as one of those NEETs who talks about "normies" and looks down on literally everyone for any reason you can find, just so you can prove to yourself that you're superior and not a huge waste of space and life.

>>25916788
This to be honest

>>25916744
You're a fucking loser i think...

>>25916744
nofunallowed

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Noon that was asking a shit ton of nooby questions about boosters like 2 hours ago. Ended up going to Walmart and bought only 2 boosters ended up pulling this in the first pack I ever opened in my life. So happy don't even know if it's good or expensive but I'm still excited. Anyway I wanted to ask, the pack was surrounded by the cardboard seen in the picture, are these boosters still weighable? I'd imagine the cardboard skews the weight to make it undetectable if there are nice cards inside. I bought this in Walmart and it was literally the first pack at the front of the rack.

>>25916788
i only do this with sets that have good pull rates. i've completely avoided breakpoint but i've spent probably $200 on generations packs.

>>25916854
Very nice, what did the second booster contain ?

>>25916854
They are still weighable, but Breakpoint isn't because the code cards are heavier in the packs with non holos.

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>>25916857

>buy a Mew and Jirachi box
>end up with a M Char, M Venu and Sylveon EX

I love Generations

>>25916889
Nothing good sadly unless special energy water is good all I got was a holo rattata

>>25916899
based tpci

>>25916899
wait, seriously? any source?

>>25916928
Except BP is a shit set with nothing valuable, and you can still weigh only less accurately. Also, the heaviest packs often contain Breaks.

>>25916771
TCG's aren't entertainment, like watching a movie in a theater or going to a concert to listen to a band. Those are intangible - what you pay for is the chance to be entertained. And obviously whether or not the money spent was worth it varies from person to person depending on their level of entertainment.

When you buy into a TCG you're buying a physical, tangible good. It has a worth set by a secondary market. If you're going to buy into the primary market (sealed product) it is preferable that the value of your return when sold to the secondary market is equal to or greater than the money you spent initially.

Now, if you personally seek entertainment out of the gambling rush of ripping open plastic and frantically scanning pieces of paper for a really shiny piece of paper, you could consider spending $40 on 40 one dollar 3-card packs from Dollar Tree - that would probably be a safer bet than buying a booster box. But again, you can't really put a dollar on personal entertainment.

>>25916788
>>25916794
>>25916814
>>25916850
I never said it wasn't fun, I said it was stupid. And it is, stupid things can be fun. But it doesn't make it very less stupid.

I mean, look at this guy: >>25916854 got excited about pulling a full art. It doesn't matter what that full art costs and that they potentially wasted their money, it's just a shiny piece of paper amongst less shiny pieces of paper. But if this poster had pulled something else, like a normal reverse holo, they would be less excited AND they would've wasted their money.

Gambling is gambling, familia. It can be fun, and it can be not fun. But either way it's statistically a waste of money. And I'm not in good conscious going to tell people to go ahead and waste their money, especially if they don't have much money to waste.

>>25916916
Getting a full art Darkrai EX in two packs is pretty damn good still. Full arts are just magnificent in general and even non players can appreciate them for the artworks.

>>25916937

Whenever I opened non-holos from Breakpoint packs the code card designs are different and they weigh slightly more than the normal code cards

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>>25916937
The green ones are thicker and placed in packs with regular rares. The white one is thinner and gets stuck in packs with holos or above. These don't affect Breaks, making weighing packs effective at getting Break cards.

>>25916937
just go weigh the packs. lots of tubers have confirmed it already.

>>25916993
but breaks weigh the same as reverse holos, i don't understand how that would change anything.

>>25916993
Wow I can definitely feel the difference trying it now

>>25916994
>>25916993

i-i dont have readily available packs, nor cards, nor one of those fancy scales you mention, i'm barely starting, altough coming from ygo i know about pack weighting, and i think this is a very clever solution.
BTW, I'm planning to buy a generations tin, is it a good thing to buy?

>>25916952
Why the fuck is it all about gambling and wasting money with you, did you used to have a problem or something? Jesus fucking Christ, leave this thread and this life immediately.

>>25917032
what's a generations tin? as far as I'm aware it doesn't exist.

>>25917080
it doesn't
>>25917032
tins and boxes with packs can't be weighed, so they are good. don't buy loose generations pack though, because they are very easy to weigh.

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>>25917051
See if your infantile brain can follow along. Okay, ready?

Buying sealed product is gambling, by definition.

Gambling when the risk is high and the reward is low is statistically unfavorable

Since you have to spend money on such a statistically unfavorable game, it's a waste of money.

Ergo, buying sealed product is a waste of money.

>>25917121
buying sealed product is paying for entertainment.

gambling is not a "waste of money" if you are being entertained.

>>25917080
the card shop guy told me he was getting tins and boxes and whatnot, in the meantime i bought a double crisis thing with 4 packs, a coin and a pin, it cost me relatively cheap, i'm getting into this more for the artwork than the game, since anyone here plays pkmn

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>>25917121
I guess you're just grinding this out till you run out of self-respect huh?

>>25917121
>jontron gif
>uppity as fuck
hello paco this isn't reddit

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>>25917136
If you're going to buy sealed product not for the tangible worth but for the intangible feeling of ripping open packs, why not invest in a card game that can satisfy both? Like Yugioh or MtG?

>>25917178
Have a reaction gif.

>>25917121
>THE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE THAT ENJOY OPENING PACKS ARE SHEEP AND WASTING THEIR HARD EARNED MONEY, THEY'RE GAMBLING!!
>I, on the other hand am a super smart smug individual, better than all those that derive pointless "fun" from things. I only buy things that I can turn a profit from, never to enjoy them.

You sound like a fedora tipping pseudo-intellectual, fuck off and die already.

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>>25917234
That's what it is though, champ. Gambling, Call a spade a spade. And gambling with low payouts and high risk is stupid. I enjoy owning, looking at and playing with my PTCG collection but I also enjoy the fact that I didn't waste any money to accumalate said collection.

Nice buzzwords though, you earned a gif.

>>25917311
god it must be awful to be you.

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>>25909075
god DAMN I am getting some good deals today

anyone looking to buy a mewtwo full art? :^)

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>>25917348

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New to this, isn't this worth it for the lysandre alone?

>>25917810
You can get a playset of AO Lysandres for a pack.

>>25917900
How do I go about setting up this trade? I only see 4 lysandre's on the market

>>25917917
Go to collection, mark all your packs for trade, go to trade, hit create trade, pretty self explanatory.

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>>25914331
>>25914503
>not a one pull posted from 9 codes
For shame ptcg/o, for shame.

>>25917380
lol, you're pathetic

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Well now. Too bad it's useless.

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>>25918097

>>25918486
lol, you're pathetic