Least favorite moves

>>25830863
Sweet Scent sounds like someone let one rip. The fact that it's a smell based move doesn't help.

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Fucking Detect.
FUCK OFF

>>25830863
screech is grating on the ears but amazing in the ass

>>25830863
Wait, there are people who don't play with the sound off to avoid th crappy music?

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>>25830903
im going to actually punch u

>>25830903
>crappy music
Do you wanna start a fight?

>>25830863
any gen 2 move that caused the screen to go into negative colors and shake
i dont even have any sensibilities or weak eyes, it's just annoying

>>25830903
i bet you have nice toes let me suck pls

I don't actually use buffs or debuffs on my pokeymangs outside of attacks that also those effects.

>>25830903
I actually plugged in my koss cans the other day and discovered all the music has dope basslines too
Now its my easy listening music
I even like the pokecenter music again

>>25830947
you must not be playing it in the '90s when the negative shifts were cool as fuck.
It's the reason Giratina's negative themed shiny is so based to me despite the regular coloration using two of my favorite colors

>>25830863
Isn't that the point of a screech?

natural gift. it's so useless.

>>25830863
Slam

>Power 80
>Accuracy 75%

Mud Sport and Water Sport. I just thought of them as so useless the first times I saw them due to who used it. I heard it got better in XY but it's way too late for me to change my base feelings about it.

Confuse Ray and Supersonic.

Anything that results in the pokemon using it fainting, because maybe i want to dick around with Metronome without getting fucking Healing Wish again.

Outside that, >>25835852 has the right idea. I can't think of a single reason Mud Sport would be useful on anything that gets it, especially since a lot of mons that get it are immune to electricity anyways

>>25830863
Steam Eruption.

>>25830947
Gen 1 leer spooked me when I was a lil fag

Wake-Up Slap seems useful and powerful, but I rarely want to damage something I just sent to sleep, I'll use the opportunity to buff and heal and whatnot.

>>25837180
In the same useless category, we have Smelling Salts.

>>25835037
Meanwhile
>Body slam
>Power 85
>Accuracy 100
>30% Paralyse chance

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D O U B L E T E A M

>>25837180
the idea is to use it to break sleep talker builds, not combo with your own sleep inducing move.

>>25837247
Wow, some moves are stronger then others, holy shit.

Memento.

> Faint youself to cut the target's Sp. Atk and Sp. Def in half

> Under most circumstances, they can just SWITCH OUT

>>25837377
That's the point
Free turn for a set up sweeper

>SelfDestruct
What's the fucking point
Why would anyone use it when Explosion exists
Is there any Pokémon that learns Selfdestruct but not Explosion?

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Gen 1 Wrap.

>>25830881
>mostly learned by feminine grass types
that's hot

>>25837408
Snorlax, Genesect, Slugma, Magcargo, Corsola, Wailmer, Wailord, Gulpin, and Swalot. This doesn't include the Gen I TM.

>>25837408
i fucking hate explodey pokemon in the wild

before gen 5 it was pretty much guaranteed to faint you AND if only one of your mons fought that thing nobody would get exp

>>25837440
Gen I TM doesn't add any Pokémon, it just reinforces that Snorlax can't use Explosion.

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>>25837435
>"Please don't make fun of me because my Sweet Scent move came from my bottom"

>>25837509
i want to bully lilligant until she farts!

>>25837440
Normal Gem Selfdestruct Wailord gives me life.

>>25837445
Didn't it and Hyper Beam halve your defense for the damage dealt, so it was essentially 500BP?

>>25837850
selfdestruct and explosion halved your defense. in gen 1 it was essentially a 260 or 340 base power move and from gen 2-4 it was a 400 or 500 base power atomic bomb.

i hate the move being used by wild mons but i kind of want to try it on M-glalie. refrigerate gives it a 30% boost off the bat and turns it into an ice-type move. i don't know the calcs but it might then get STAB as well. you'd have either a 325 or 487 base power ice explosion which is fucking ridiculous

>>25837903
Explosion is great on Mega Glalie.

I also came up with this dickish Weezing set, but it's not that great because of the nerf:

- Toxic
- Venoshock
- Pain Split
- Explosion

>>25837903
For clarity, Refrigerate does activate STAB.

>>25838093
so it would achieve the higher BP of 487?

that seems like...a lot of power. maybe the highest BP move in the game?

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>>25837903
>mfw CB Metagross Explosion OHKOed full defense Skarmory in gen 4
Those were the times

>>25838102
That would be a maxed-out Stored Power, which has 860 base power WITHOUT STAB. You'd have to have max Accuracy and Evasion though.

>>25837903
I fucking miss explosion, man. I had it on like everything as a last resort and now it's garbage.

>>25838112
This is wrong, Rollout/Ice Ball + Defense Curl hits 960 base power without STAB.

> TFW Glalie can use Defense Curl, but not Ice Ball

>>25838120
it was probably in the realm of "too good" so gamefreak had to hobble it somehow

in all fairness, halving the defense was OP. no other move really did that.

>>25838127
If Mega Glalie could use Ice Ball, after Defense Curl, Refrigerate, and STAB, its base power would hit 1,872!

>>25838142
your calcs are off a little because refrigerate +30% only applies to normal moves that turn into ice moves. it would still be 960+STAB

>>25838149
1,440 base power coming off the same Attack stat as Arceus is still ridiculous though.

>>25838161
I just wanted to post this.

A level 100 Shuckle can potentially deal the most damage in one single attack through the use of numerous stat boosters; by receiving the effects of Helping Hand from two allies in a triple battle, holding a Metronome, Power Trick, a Skill Swap to Pure Power, a conversion to Ice, and 6 stages of positive Attack stat changes. Also, both of Shuckle's partners must have the Ability Flower Gift and the weather must be sunny. On the 5th turn of using a Defense Curl-boosted Ice Ball (learned via Mimic) consecutively without any misses, if used against a level 1 Noibat with minimum Defense stats, that has 6 stages of negative Defense stat changes (such as from being subject to Screech 3 times), and being under the effect of Forest's Curse it can deal 721,899,685 damage with a critical hit.

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>>25838172
> Shuckle after Power Trick, preferably including some Accupressures or Contrary Shell Smashes. Combine with Trick Room and you have nigh-unstoppable power.

Round
>Only useful in triple battles
>When every Pokémon you're using is using it
>No one has ever used it
>But somehow it's been a TM for two Gens

Synchronoise, Imprison, Bestow, and Quash. Way too situational.

>>25838492
>synchronoise was weaker than Psychic in gen 5 with those requirements

>>25838492
>>25838535
Synchronoise should have just been a Psychic that changes types against Psychic and Dark types to be Normal.