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Is he the strongest non-protagonist in the entire Pokemon universe?

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Is he the strongest non-protagonist in the entire Pokemon universe?
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>>25814573
What? No.
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>>25814573
Yes. His team is better than Barry's.
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>>25814573
No.
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>>25814578
He literally has smogonbird and smogonshark
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>>25814590
No. He and Barry both suck
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>>25814602
He still suck.
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>>25814619
But who's better?

Red has him beat by a few levels but his team is shit and he uses a Pikachu
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>>25814602
no because Gen 6 game for babies. to esy.
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>>25814637
Every single Pokemon game is easy as shit
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>>25814607
>>25814619
>>25814637

Please take your autism somewhere else.
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>>25814573
>Ghetsis
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>>25814627
Only the Roserade is kinda bad. The other ones are pretty strong. He could defeat Red and maybe Barry too.
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>>25814629
They all suck.
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>>25814573

Battle Chatelaine Nita?
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>>25814664

Is kind of a chump, honestly, other than his mysterious underleveled Hydreigon.
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>>25814627
>Is an incompetent pokewaifufag who uses a DELCATTY in the originals
>Has Gale Wings Life Orb Talonflame in the remakes

I don't understand what Gamefreaks reasoning behind this drastic character change was
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>>25814627
>Petal blizzard

what was the point of this move? They didn't give it to any grass-type who would actually want to use it since all the grass-types with petals are special attackers

>poison jab
what the fuck are they thinking?
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>>25814694
Much how Pokemon BW was a social commentary on the linearity and illusion of choice in life in America, Wally is a commentary on a casual player who plays using their favorites before realizing the deeper mechanics of Pokemon and therefore, using the best Pokemon to win, rather than their favorites.
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>>25814694

They changed it so that his desire to become stronger actually manifested in him gitting gud instead of failing miserably like nearly every other rival in the franchise. That's honestly how it should have been from the start.
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>>25814713

It feels like Roserade is just there to take up space.
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>>25814714
And people say Pokemon doesn't have good writing
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>>25814722
I feel like new Wally is what Serena was supposed to be
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>>25814627
If Roserade had toxic this would be a pretty terrifying team. Wally got fucking RIPPED.

I'm proud of the lil guy ;-;
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>>25814740
You can bloat your story with allegories and metaphors up the wazoo. That does not make it good writing.
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>>25814714
>competitive pokemon
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>>25814773
Yeah bro, why can't it be more like Gold and Silver? What happened to REAL Pokemon...... -_-;;
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>>25814573
My favourite "rival" so far.His Battle Mansion team is pretty good.
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>>25814746

Wally is arguably what most rivals should be, at least in terms of combat ability. It seems like these days rivals either have no interest in surpassing you to begin with, or their dreams of ever doing so are crushed repeatedly until they give up and move on with their lives. But Wally never gave up, and while he'll never quite surpass the protagonist, my god did he try harder than anyone who came before or after him.
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>>25814627
>no gen 3 mons

uh
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>>25814573
If we're using Levels as powerlevels, Barry still beats him.
If we're going by "lore" strength, he's on the upper end of Rivals, stronger than Silver and around Barry's level.
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Canonically, definitely not. Gameplaywise though, he's the strongest outside of competitive things like Frontier Brains
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>>25814849

Barry only beats him by a hair in terms of levels, and even then his actual team isn't as powerful.
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>Incarnation of weakness
>strong
Sure.
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>>25814573
Objectively power-wise? Yes.
Canonically? He's pretty strong, but not the strongest, in my opinion.
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>>25814627
>Brightpowder
low ladder shitter
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