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>The foe's Talonflame used Brave Bird!

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>The foe's Talonflame used Brave Bird!
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>>25776559
I hope it gets nerfed next gen.
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>Foe WALREIN used sheer cold!
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>>25776559
>switched in Magneton with eviolite just before that
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>>25776559
Lol what a scrub.
Helmet chomp? Nah don't need that shit. Flying resist? Nah, I am shit and I like eating myself.
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>>25776620
>IT'S A

>ONE

>HIT

>KO
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>>25776559
>252+ Atk Life Orb Talonflame Brave Bird vs. 240 HP / 176+ Def Garchomp: 164-192 (39.3 - 46%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
>Rough Skin+ Cocky helmet

Wings=clipped
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>>25776634
Doesn`t that leave you open to Flare blitz?
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>>25776559
Greninja focus sash then use scald
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>>25776559
>Jirachi used Iron Head!
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>>25777118
>Greninja Focus sash
>Greninja Scald
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[Opponent] used [low accuracy move]!
A critical hit!
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>>25776882
Most Talonflame that have Flare Blitz are Choice Band. Some swords Dance sets carry it too, but lately I'm seeing stallbreaker Talonflames everywhere that don't even use flare blitz, they do stuff like taunt, Roost, and Will-o-wisp. Every team needs a stallbreaker now, it seems. I'm even seeing Acrobatics used over Brave Bird more often since some teams just sort fold to that kind of priority and damage without Talonflame slowly killing itself.
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>>25777138
>send out an electric type
>Jirachi used Heart Stamp!
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>>25776620
>>25776710
This.

My nuzlocke run in ORAS was ended when Glacia's Walrein hit me with Sheer Cold THREE TIMES in a row.
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>>25777182
I hope for Gen 7, Gamefreak reduces the chance of flinching for Iron Head and Heart Stamp to 10%.

Serene Grace is just ridiculous.
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>Enemy Landorus' Intimidate cuts your pokemon's attack
>Enemy Landorus used U-Turn!
>Mega Manectric came out!
>Manectric's Intimidate cuts your pokemon's Attack!
>Mga Manectric used Volt Switch!
>Landorus came out

Every god damn battle it seems like. God, I hate Intimidate.
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>>25777194
I'm not even mad about that kind of flinch chance existing

I'm mad about that kind of flinch chance existing in a widely accepted metagame
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>>25777201
>what is clear body
>what is defiant
>what are special attackers
>what is competitive

Stop being shit
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>>25776559
I ran into one and led with Timid Water Shuriken Greninja. RIP Bravest Birb

Also the dumbass DC'd after his Talonflame died. The rest of his team was a Rotom-W and 4 whatever other cancermons.
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>The foe's Kangaskhan is reacting to enemy's Kangaskhanite!
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>>25777539
>Clear Body
Non-mega Metagross and non-mega Diancie are shitty. They're both too slow, and get killed by Landorus' Earthquake.
>Defiant
Okay, yeah, Bisharp can cause problems for that obnoxious fucking core, but Bisharp is still pretty frail, can't switch in on either one, and if you predict wrong you get fucked since both can OHKO.
>Special attackers
Most are slow enough that Landorus and Manectric can strike first, and most get shit on by Scarf Landorus anyway since it has an assload of attack power. Worst still, since Landorus is immune to Manectric's one weakness, it's a real pain in the ass actually do damage to the fucking things even if you spam Earth Power and Ice Beam.
>Competetive
Great ability, but e very pokemon that has it is also weak to Manectric and Landoru's attacks.

Seriously, Landorus can go to hell. It basically says "Oh, like physical attackers? Fuck you, they suck now!"

I wish there was a pokemon that said, "Oh, you like playing Volt-Turn? Fuck you, you lose!"
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boop
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>>25777183
Unlucky i guess
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>>25776559
I know there are counters and checks and that a well built team should be able to deal with it but I HATE THAT BIRD SO MUCH

Not helped by the fact that I played battlespot at lot when XY came out and had to have at least one of my three pokemon be a dedicated Smogonbird handler or risk being automatically swept by 70% of my opponents.

DOUBLY not helped by the fact my favourite pokemon in XY were grass, bug and fighting types...
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>ONIX used BIND!
>ONIX's attack continues!
>MANKEY fainted!
>Go! BUTTERFREE!
>ONIX used BIND!
>ONIX's attack continues!
>ONIX's attack continues!
>ONIX's attack continues!
>ONIX's attack continues!
>BUTTERFREE FAINTED!
>Go! PIDGEOTTO!
>ONIX used BIND!
>ONIX's attack continues!
>ONIX's attack continues!
>ONIX's attack continues!
>ONIX's attack continues!
>ONIX's attack continues!
>PIDGEOTTO fainted!
>Go! PIKACHU!
>ONIX used BIND!
>ONIX's attack continues!
>ONIX's attack continues!
>ONIX's attack continues!
>PIKACHU FAINTED!
>Player is out of usable POKéMON!
>nuzlocke ends there
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>>25776559

I stopped playing pokemons after I realized that my team is shit no matter what I do with it, it's ridiculous that we are almost likely forced to using certain pokemons to win against some bullshit playinghood...
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>>25780656

don't get me wrong, I was winning some battles, but after all it turned out as impossible to beat some shit strategies...
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>>25780656
No you clearly just suck. If you cant use any pokemon you need to git gud
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>>25777596
>prankster klefki with block
>entry hazards
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>>25780722
This is false. There are certain mons you can't do anything with no matter how "gud" you are.

Please show me a video of you taking out an Ubers team with UU mons.
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>>25777570
>Timid
That reduces your Attack, though.

252+ Atk Choice Band Talonflame Brave Bird vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Greninja: 324-382 (113.6 - 134%) -- guaranteed OHKO
(324, 328, 331, 336, 339, 343, 348, 351, 355, 358, 363, 366, 370, 373, 378, 382)

Even a Neutral-natured Greninja would have only a 75 percent chance of OHKOing Talonflame with Water Shuriken, IF all five hits connect:

252 Atk Greninja Water Shuriken (5 hits) vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Talonflame: 270-330 (90.9 - 111.1%) -- approx. 75% chance to OHKO
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>>25780498
What's with Gen 1's wrap and bind? Its so fucking random.
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>>25780959
Most of this guy's team is NU (except Moody Octillery, but that didn't do anything), actually, and he beat a team full of ubers.

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/anythinggoes-338203761
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/anythinggoes-337514106
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/anythinggoes-336111180
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/anythinggoes-335828563
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/anythinggoes-330497249
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/anythinggoes-330204878

Though, to be fair, a bunch of his opponents are morons.
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>Cinccino used tail slap
>it hit 5 times
>opponents pokemon has flinched
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>>25777183
i was doing a Ruby Randomizer Nuzlocke and she ended it by hitting me twice in a row with that godforsaken move
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>>25781019
>Moody

How about no gimmicks and with a competent opponent?
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>>25777201
Mamoswine is a good answer.
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>>25781064
>jacksfilms
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>>25781236
the face just works
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>>25781198
I really like this image
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>>25781141
Not him, but Octillery didn't do anything in any of those battles, Moody had no impact. Stop moving goalposts.
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>>25777596
What about arena trap dugtrio?
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>>25781464
M-Manectric fucks it sideways, Landorus just U-Turns out (If it's not choiced, but even then - with a scarf it's fast enough to outspeed and OHKO)

252 SpA Mega Manectric Hidden Power Ice vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Dugtrio: 220-260 (109.4 - 129.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 Atk Landorus-T U-turn vs. 0 HP / 0- Def Dugtrio: 208-245 (103.4 - 121.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 Atk Dugtrio Stone Edge vs. 0 HP / 24 Def Landorus-T: 85-100 (26.6 - 31.3%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
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>>25780998
Then jolly
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>>25781560
maybe I'm missing something, but I'm seeing manectric having only a 6% chance to 1hko a dugtrio with 0hp/0spd. If you scarf the dugtrio, go adamant, invest all into hp/atk, you can 2hko the manectric and it can't 1 hit you.
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>>25782226
Followup. Invest whatever into speed so you out speed the landorus, this is just intended to trap and kill the mmanectric
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>>25782226
I just used the first set in the calculator, but okay. You could also use a Focus Sash to survive the HP Ice and smack Manectric.
But I think Dugtrio isn't really that good of a Pokemon. It has it's uses, but if you see one on team preview, it's pretty clear what your opponent is going to use it for.
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>>25781019

sorry but this is bullshit

his opponents were idiots... also he was using 'good' mons

I tried to do something with my favourites and they sucks as fuck against ubers or others...

this game need free versus mode like pokken or better because in other ways it's just calculated bullshit...
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>>25782885
The first set has shit ivs
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>>25783056
>Golduck
>Archeops
>Anything but crap
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>>25776559
>mobileposting furries need to get gud
more at 10
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>>25780959
I got one with PU mons if thats okay

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ubers-330259128
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>>25783778
>rank: 1000

Still, using a pu rain team in Primal Groudon: the meta deserves a lot of respect
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>>25776826
>not sand veil+t-tar
why live?
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>Equipping Brightpowder on a random poke
>The opponent's attack missed!
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>Focus Band activates
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>>25777183
I've actually seen a Nuzlocke end by Sheer Cold hitting 5 times in a row. And their last Pokemon was doubly weak to ice.
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>>25781349
Me too! Save it, it's all yours my friend :)
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>>25777539
Competitive is my favorite out of these. Helps with that Psyshock.
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>>25777596
So what you're looking for is entry hazards, block, arena trap, mean look, etc.

Also is there a special attack version of intimidate? If not, why not?
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>>25784612
I thought we were going with singles.
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>>25777183
it's your own fault for not being a higher level than it
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>>25781003
you mean gen 1's bind, wrap, fire spin, and clamp? because what happens is that you can't move or switch out
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