>he is the best grass starter >prove me wrong

>>25763771
They just took Venusaur and made it ground type.

>>25763771
I can't, sorry. Meganium and Sceptile come close though.

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>>25763771
/proof

>>25763771
Grovyle in Mystery Dungeon travelled through time to save the future from a void like hell to defeat the undead and the God of time. And reminder: this was on his second evolution, he wasn't even fully evolved.

mega skeptile

>>25763771
Yes. Venusaur is my second favorite because of muh nostalgia.

>>25763822
>inb4 spin off not canon reee

>>25763771
That's some Grade A taste anon. Keep up the good work.

>>25763771
>Powder snow

>>25763817
That's a mummy.

>>25763771
I have no proof, but I disagree as I find Venusaur to be superior. I do give it second place though.

Torterra > Venusaur = Sceptile > Serperior > Chestnaught = Meganium

I like them all though

>>25763817
Chestnaut has to be the worst grass starter besides Meganium

>>25763902
>meganium
>not qt

>>25763771
Is the tree a part of its body or separate? What happens if we uproot the tree?

>>25763902
Meganium is best grass starter.

>>25763925
Is he older, or is the tree?

>>25763771
>he is the best grass starter
More like Best Starter period.

>>25763843
It was still one of the best games

>>25763771
It's always gonna be a contest between Torterra, Venusaur and Sceptile to me. Grass does have the best starters in general though.

>>25763925
It would be very painful

>>25763771
this thing is fucking cool as shit. its got a got damn biome on it

>>25763866
youre a mummy

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>>25763822
>travelled through time to save the future from a void like hell to defeat the undead and the God of time.
u
wut

>>25764052
Play Explorers of Sky

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>>25763771
Heh. The denial is strong with this one. Look who got into Pokken Tournament, bitches! Only the best Grass starter is worthy of such a feat!

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>>25764149
>caring about shitty double game spinoff

>>25764191
>ants

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>>25763771
Can Torterra do THIS? Didn't think so!

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>>25764216
>being this autistic
>forgetting that all grass starters do that

>>25764227
That move is called Forest's Flash. It's Sceptile's Burst Attack. Last time I checked, Frenzy Plant doesn't wrap around the opponent like Gaara's Sand Coffin. Have you never seen Pokken or something?

>>25764275
See >>25764284

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>>25764149
>liking edgy mons

I really, really want to like Torterra, the earth turtle concept is awesome and I love the idea of a Grass/Ground-type. But it's just so bad in battle.

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>>25763771
>the first Grass-type starter fully-evolved by Ash and used in the Sinnoh League to defeat Tobias's Darkrai
>the only other Grass-type starter besides *cough*obligatorygenwunpandering*cough* Venusaur to be gifted with a Mega Evolution
>the only Grass-type starter with its pre-evolution having a major role in one of the spinoffs
>the only Grass-type, period, to become playable in Pokken Tournament, being one of only 14 Pokémon species out of 700+ in the roster

There's no doubt about it. Sceptile is the best Grass-type starter of all time, and if you can't see that in spite of the evidence, you are delusional.

>>25764356
How the fuck is Sceptile edgy? Or is that just a buzzword you don't know how to use correctly?

Gen 4 had the best starters. All 3 and all of their evos range from decent to great in terms of design.

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>>25764465
>stinky hat

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>>25764488
>Gen 4 had the best starters
>when Torterra is just a Ground-type Venusaur
>when Infernape is just a Blaziken rip-off
>this is what Sinnohfetuses actually believe

>>25764526
I hate Sinnoh, m8. Only good things about it were the starters, waifus, Porygon-Z, Rotom, and Roserade.

>>25763771
It's going to always be Venusaur.

>>25763854
4x weaknesses build character.

>>25764541
That must be why he was the only Grass type to get into Pokken. Oh wait...

>>25763771
>meme arrows
Who are you quoting? An underage Sinnohfetus who never got to experience better starters from older gens?

>>25764178
>bara fag
fuck off faggot torterra is based starter

>>25764535
what about weavile, electivire, mismagius, honchcrow, garchomp, lucario, toxicroak, yanmega, mamoswine, gallade, etc?

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>torterra represents all that is nature, the ultimate power of the earth
>green gecko is just speedy in jungle

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>all this Torterra faggotry
I am fully convinced at this point the only people who love Torterra the most are underaged Sinnohbabbies who never got to experience a proper childhood. Seriously! I just don't get it. There is nothing special about it at all! Venusaur already pulled off the "ecosystem on a back" motif. Torterra doesn't even look like a tortoise. Its "shell" just looks like a bowl that was glued onto it. You all have shit taste and should be ashamed of yourselves.

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>>25763817
the only correct answer

>>25764651
Venusaur only had a giant flower, not an ecosystem you dumbass

>>25764651
I dig this kewl underage sinnoh meme bait

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>>25764680
If you look closely at Venusaur's foliage, it resembles a jungle.

Venusaur > Torterra >>> Sceptile >>>>>> I dont care much about the rest but Meganium a qt, shame about the stats and movepool; Serperior was the first Grass starter I dropped (always went for Grass) and Chesnaught is shit

>>25764697
That's supposed to be the flower's leafs

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>>25764709
>Venusaur that high
>Sceptile above anything

Shit list tbqh imho

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>>25764639
>>torterra represents all that is nature, the ultimate power of the earth
Xerneas is better at doing that than a slow-ass turtle.
>implying being speedy isn't the coolest thing

>>25763817
BEST!

>>25764757
Turtles are realistically known to represent nature and longevity, whereas xerneas is just a spirit of life

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>>25763817
Literally a poor man's Breloom.

>>25764778
This

>>25764769
Bad opinion

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1. Contrary.
2. Its name says it all.

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>>25764826
>Gen 5 starter
>best anything

>>25764826
It's only better than that Dino flower from johto

>>25763771
>he

but yeah you're right torterra kicks ass

>>25764848
>he

>>25764651
4th Gen is arguably the best gen or at least the second best

>>25764651
If you were actually an oldfag and not a Johtoddler pretending to be part of Gen 1 you would know everyone hated Venusaur.

>>25764697
>jungles only consist of 3 leaves

>>25764651
a plant isn't an ecosystem you dumb nigger.

>>25764996
It's not nice to lie on the Internet, senpai.

Do you even know how to use green text properly op?

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About right. Might be better than Serperior thanks to that little tree, depends what mood I'm in.

>>25765026
>a continent consists of one tree and a few patches of mass

>>25765040
That whole picture is autistic

>>25765040
Why are all x and y textures so dull? Why couldnt it be more vibrant like in 3ds pokedex?

>>25764465
Sceptile isn't even dual type how can he be the best?

>>25765042
It's supposed to represent a miniature version of the earth

>>25765040
Shit list anon

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Competetivly
Venusaur>Serperior>chesnaut>Sceptile>Torterra>Meganium

Looks
Torterra>Sceptile>Serperior>Venusaur>Chesnaut>Meganium

>>25765104
>cancerous gif
>shitty listing service
>why haven't you considered suicide yet anon?

>>25765079
And Venusaur's foliage represents a miniature version of a jungle. What's your point?

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>>25765069
>I never Mega Evolve my Pokémon: The Post

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>tfw I love Venusaur and Sceptile equally
>Sceptile is my fast dragon killer
>Venusaur is my bulky fairy slayer
>always use one of them

>>25765161
It becomes Grass/Electric wtf?

>>25765190
The Japanese Katakana translates to Dragon.

>>25765190
Grass electric would be better than grass dragon

>>25765233
Maybe, but Mega Sceptile having a unique type combination no other Pokémon has is neat. Plus Dragon typing makes perfect sense for it since A. It's a reptile. B. It learns a lot od Dragon moves, and C. It's in the Dragon Egg Group.

>>25765143
it resembles a type of tropical flower, not an entire jungle

>>25765262
Thank you

>>25765262
The same logic applies to Torterra. It resembles a tree, not an entire continent.

>>25765352
My nigger, he has miniature mountains and a small plain, plus the tree. That's literally 3 biomes there

>>25765398
>miniature mountains
Those are just spikes you fucking retard.

>>25765352
World tortoise is clearly Torterra's motif while Venusaur is just meant to be a vague reptilian/amphibian plant monster.

>>25763771
Torterra > Sceptile > Serperior > Venusaur > Meganium > Shitnaught

>>25765576
Switch Sceptile with Torterra and Chesnaught with Meganium and your ranking is perfect.

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>>25765040
>GRENINJA THAT FUCK LOW

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>25765601
t. Gamefreak

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I'm surprised none of you made this to settle it once and for all

http://strawpoll.me/7225549

Sceptile is so fucking cool. No other Grass starter comes close to being as cool as him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzadRLhd7VE

>>25765531
Any spike is a mountain if you're small enough.

>>25764482
I mean, he does know leaf blade. That implies at least one edge.

>>25766044
Then I guess Feraligatr, Garchomp, Lucario, Tyrantrum, etc. have mountains in them?

Starters
4>1>3>2>6>5

>>25763817
Chesnaught is atrocious, it's easily the shittiest looking Grass starter.

>>25766447

I strangely agree with this.

>>25763881
>>25764541
Facts. Venusaur is the greatest Grass starter ever.

>>25766464

He has pretty unique design that tried to invoke the same feeling of Blastoise. i.e. Heavy armored shelled dude, (except he's a chipmunk instead of a turtle).

I had a female Chesnaught, I named her Nutella.

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>>25763771
But you're right.

Venusaur > Torterra > Meganium > Sceptile > Serperior >>>>>>>> Kill yourself tier Chesnaught

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i would actually like a massive torterra. grow some fruits on it, put out a hammock, lie there as my torterra travels for me.

why do pokemon trainers not think of it.

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Nah. All Grass starters were shit before Chespin came long.

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>Be Torterra
>World Turtle
>Also fucking Ankylosaur or some shit

HUERF UFRHG MUH SCEPTILE
BEST POGEYMAN

>mfw

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>>25767960
>he bald tho

>>25763785
>literally my mom's venusaur

all the grass starters are pretty great desu

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>there are people in this thread who think that grass charizard is better than broterra

>>25767960
>liking shitnaught

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>>25767960

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>>25763991
>Grass does have the best starters in general though.

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>>25764651
taking the bait
>Torterra doesn't even look like a tortoise
it's because it's not a tortoise

I'm a dedicated Waterfag when it comes to starters and I did choose Piplup every time I played DPP but Torterra's become an exception over the years. It's my favorite of all the starters now, though I can't say I've actually used it in-game or in battles much.

>>25764526
Torterra>>>>>> Venusaur
Infernape>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blaziken
Empoleon>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> every other water starter

>>25768232
This No One guy has some really bad taste.

>>25765531
Yes they are spikes, but they are supposed to represent mountains you twat

>>25765040
Literally flip this chart and erase Meganium

Meganium > Serperior > Chesnaught > Torterra > Venusaur > Sceptile >>>>> Greninja

>>25768299
He is a tortoise, he has a shell

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>>25763771
I cant.
He's my favorite. Sceptile is a very close 2nd though.

>>25769349
>riding on the back of a torterra on a nice day
>it's soft grass on your back as you lie back and travel the country with your best friend

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Fuck yeah torterra.

>>25763771
IT'S PU TRASH ALONG WITH MEGANIUM

>>25763771
>the only Grass starter besides Meganium in Smogon's PU tier
Yeah. No.

>>25764052
Mystery Dungeons: Explorers of the Sky
Aka: TIMECOP: POKEMON EDITION

>>25763771
I cant though. I'm partial to all the grass starters though, even Meganium. All of them are consistently bro-tier.

>>25770299
>caring about shit that isn't even legit

>>25765140
Because I know how to post properly.

>>25770287
>PU
>smogon
We need opinions that matter.

>>25768058
it's a helmet

What annoys me about basically all the grass starters is that they get such a shit movepool. Meganium is bottom of the barrel, but Venusaur and Serperior also only get Grass type offensive moves. Without tm's they're shit.
Sceptile has the best movepool except it's all physical attacks and it only gets a few damaging special type moves of which it can only learn 1 by level up. Torterra and Chesnaught at least have some variety going on.

Compared to mons like Charizard, Infernape, Blaziken, Emboar, Blastoise, Feraligatr, Swampert, Empoleon and Greninja however, it's still fucking nothing.

Also:
Water > weak to 2 types, super effective against 3
Fire > weak to 3 types, super effective against 4
Grass > weak to 5 types, super effective against 3.

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>>25768299
Here's the dinosaur you're looking for senpai

Torterra is an unbelievable boring redesign of Venusaur. I think it might be my least favorite starter.

I wonder how many dumb Torterrafags nicknamed him Atlas or Gaia or something.

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>>25765040

>>25775018
Because Game Freak still take retarded design decision concerning balance.
They give grass a lot of utility move like the powder/spore move or leech seed so to compensate they made grass a shitty offensive type and give them a shitty coverage to force you to switch and so give your opponent a "free" turn.
But in the same time they give water pokemon an easy access to ice move so they can easily deal with two of the three type that resist them so you don't need to switch even if your opponent send a pokemon that resist water.
They also make ice and rock good offensive type and compensate by making them shitty defensive type and giving them slow pokemon, but in the same time they give easy access to ice and rock move to pokemon with a less shitty defensive type like water and ground pokemon and by doing so made ice and rock pokemon basically useless.

The list is long, but basically Game Freak gave some type too many weakness compared to their strenght and gave some type with little weakness a way to deal with them.

>>25775380
>they give grass a lot of utility moves like powder/spore moves or leech seed.

Except for the fact that Venusaur is the only grass starter that learns sleep powder, while Meganium is the only other one that learns a powder move except it's fucking Poisonpowder.
Also Meganium and Sceptile get no access to Leech Seed unless breeding.

>grass known for support
>Meganium only gets screens that you can learn by tm's you can literally buy in stores for 3k
They truly shit all over the Grass starters except Torterra which has a lot of offensive moves except it's slow and LOL grass type fuckton of weaknesses.

Also agree with the rest of your post. Pure ice types are most likely the worst pokemon after pure Grass types because most of them only learn ice type moves and besides having weaknesses to 3 of the most common offensive types (Fighting, Fire, Rock) have garbage defenses.

>>25775217
just because it has a vegetation on its back? are you that dense?