Can we have a Sceptile appreciation thread?

My first pokemon, my first level 100

Rest in peace, Sceptile

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Yes we can, OP

>>25762658
Why did it die?

>>25762664
Probably due to the battery dieing

>>25762664
I forgot to feed it.

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>>25762658
Same here.

Whatever happened to yours, I salute him.

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My nigga scep broke 1000 in Maison.

with some help

>>25762755
>forgot to feed a plant
did you leave your gameboy in a bunker

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>>25764043
>Buttass

y tho

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>>25764068

it's my name.

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>>25762593
If any of you have a Wii U, you should definitely buy Pokken Tournament as it has the best Grass starter playable. Sceptile is just so damn cool.

>>25764194
I'm currently saving up money for pokken.

it's not easy liking pokemon and being a poor fag

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How could we Improve him?

I think they should give him more special Dragon moves and more coverage.

>>25764631

the only special move left is draco meteor. and give it to other dragon megas for fairness.

also u-turn and growth.

>>25764631
There's no reason it shouldn't at least be able to learn Earth Power. It can already learn EQ and even fucking Sunkern can learn Earth Power for God's sake.

>>25764652
Wow I never realized that he can't learn growth. They even made it one of his moves in Pokken.

>>25764631
Give him earth power or make him physical ffs
If his special movepool was good I'd pick him every time but I just can't

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>get a cool NU Sceptile team a few days ago
>finally decide to use it
>Sceptile is now BL3

FUCK, I know what some of you'll say
">playing smogon rules"
well shit i want to play against people who might have some semblance of what they're doing, but man, this is whack

>>25764677

lots of grass types learn EQ and not earth power. only non-legendary, non-ground grass types that get it are sunflora and cradily.

I started White 2, and by using a Action replay, I changed my starter into treecko.

So far, it's one of my favorite playthoughts of White 2.

>Sceptile has seeds growing on its back. They are said to be bursting with nutrients that revitalize trees. This Pokémon raises the trees in a forest with loving care.

Fucking love this guy's dex lore. I'm quite the tree lover, so this guy fits me so well.

>>25764652
Give Sceptile himself a Dragon typing so he can learn Draco Meteor. Otherwise, I prefer only Dragon types to learn it (Mega-exclusive not included).

>>25764631
Give him Contrary. Serperior should have never gotten that ability. Gen 5 starters were a mistake.

>>25764829
>Contrary Sceptile

Muh dick

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>>25764800

But Ampharos could really use it too. No reason to be biased.

All they have to do is let them mega briefly outside of battle, and revert when you start a battle. You just need to be a dragon type when you talk to the tutor, that's how Draco-Plate Arceus learns it.

>>25764829

broken as fuck

>>25764871
Oh please, like Serperior isn't broken as fuck.

>>25764895

serperior is at least manageable. but that just tells you how absolutely retarded it would be on sceptile.

>>25764895
To be fair, even with a Life Orb, Serperior's Sp. Atk and Speed aren't as high as Mega Sceptile's. Not only that, but with Focus Blast and STAB Dragon Pulse, Mega Sceptile is much stronger.

>>25764829
You can kindly shove your hate up your buttonhole anon, Serperior is the bomb, as are the other Gen 5 starters.

Serperior will probably get a Dragon typing for its Mega as well, considering he can also learn so many Dragon moves.

>>25764856
I'm not being biased, I'm saying either make the Mega-Dragon Pokemon get Dragon typings outside of their Megas, or don't let them learn Draco Meteor. Call me a purist, but I prefer only Pokemon who are Dragon types outside of battle to learn Draco Meteor.

>>25765000
Serperior isn't even in the Dragon Egg Group.

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>>25765043

Anon I was already being autistic with keeping the tutor restriction, but your autism is just too much.

New circumstances warrant new rules.

>>25765154
I honestly don't understand Draco meteor's restriction.

>>25765344

Just for consistency. Most move distribution has some thematic logic behind it.

But event Jirachi gets it so there is room to bend the rules.

>>25765400
>shooting star pokemon

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>>25764631
If the Unova Fighting-type legendaries lost their signature move to the Aegislash line, then I don't see why Sceptile shouldn't get Seed Flare from Shaymin.

>>25765466

Yeah, there's logic to it, but it breaks the dragon type stipulation. So there is leeway.

Like I said if you could mega evolve briefly outside of battle then talk to the trainer, it could work. Other mons have gotten new moves as a result of their megas.

>>25765400
see >>25765466
Plus, event Pokemon are exceptions to the rule.

>>25765154
>>25765344
>consistency is autism
This anon's entitlement is off the charts. It's simple consistency: Dragon types can be taught Draco Meteor, and only them. Not Pokemon who can be Dragon temporarily.

Arceus is also an exception because it can become every type. Simple.

>>25765527
>It's simple consistency
>Not Pokemon who can be Dragon temporarily.
>Arceus is also an exception because it can become every type.

you just contradicted yourself, wingwang

>>25765508
But you can't mega evolve outside of battle, because the entire point of mega evolving is a temporary evolution during battle.

>inb4 soaring mechanic
That was fucking bullshit, and I don't even know why GF did that. Should've just had Lati@s fly around without their megas.

But, I guess it technically opens the door for the future. We'll just have to wait and see if GF becomes more lenient with it. Who knows, maybe Megas will eventually become a permanent evolution as long as it's holding the stone.

>>25764631
It's very doable. Sceptile's biggest flaw as of now is just its movepool, it really doesnt have much going for it.

Volt switch, Draco Meteor, Thunder Wave, another reliable coverage move (Perhaps Dark Pulse?), a decent boosting move..

Not even necessarily all of those, either. I bet Volt switch or Thunder Wave alone would give it way more usage. It's stats are fucking fantastic, it's issue just comes from its lack luster movepool.. Grass/Dragon isn't a good dual coverage type combo, and it has little utility based moves outside of that.

>>25765542
I didn't contradict myself. "Not Dragon temporarily" means not Pokemon who can't be Dragons permanently, i.e., outside battle. Arceus is the exception to this rule, because it can permanently be any type at any time.

Kindly go back to school for your shit reading comprehension

>>25765527
So it's consistent.. outside of the times it's consistent.

Got it.

>>25765564
>outside of the times it's consistent
You mean exceptions? Because there are exceptions to every rule, but guess what anon? Exceptions do not change the rule, because that is the very definition of a fucking exception.

Exceptions:
>Arceus
>Events

>>25765527
>consistency is autism

It is if there's no reason for it.

If I were John Gamefreak and I decided to make it that only pokemon who's dex number is a prime number learned Surf, that'd be consistent, but would that be a good idea? So why is Draco Meteor okay when it does that?

If it's a lore thing, then what's so bad about having pokemon that have the potential to become dragons obtain it as well? They can learn other dragon moves. They can actually BE a dragon. So why the hell not?

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>>25765550
>>inb4 soaring mechanic
>That was fucking bullshit

That "fucking bullshit" contradicts your argument. Megas are not inherently battle only, that's just how they the game mechanics currently represent them. There is no thematic reason why they can't briefly evolve, and revert if you go into battle.

>>25765527

>Arceus is okay as a temporary dragon
>Mega dragons are not

Okay buddy.

>>25765563
>>25765583

You're fucking retarded.

>>25765563
>"Not Dragon temporarily" means not Pokemon who can't be Dragons permanently, i.e., outside battle. Arceus is the exception to this rule, because it can permanently be any type at any time.

But that's not the rule. The rule is they have to be a dragon type when they talk to the tutor. Arceus has to be holding a Dragon Plate to learn it.

Or they can just disregard the rule completely when deemed convenient, like with event Jirachi.

>>25765583
So then what the fuck is and isn't an exception? Simply when something that disregards that rule a minority? That makes for a pretty damn flimsy rule.. even so, what's wrong with adding another exception?

>>25765585
>Arceus is a temporary Dragon
That right there is why your argument is shit. Arceus can permanently be any type. That's why he's the exception to the rule.

>That "fucking bullshit" contradicts your argument. Megas are not inherently battle only, that's just how they the game mechanics currently represent them.
You are right, the games currently represent Megas as battle-exclusive. Soaring is currently an exception to the rule, because Megas outside of battle have yet to be represented in the games, outside of Soaring.

>>25765527
You can argue that them not allowing all dragon-potentials access to the move is the actual inconsistency.

>>25765652

Soaring represents Megas outside of battle. It sets the precedent. There is no reason it can't be expanded, especially for movepool expansion for megas, which also has precedent.

>>25765614
event Pokemon don't count, because they are non-canon gifts for the point of being fun, like Gamestop Suicune knowing Sheer Cold.

>>25765614
>Arceus holding the item is irrelevant. The consistency is that he is a Dragon outside of battle.

>>25765709
Soaring sets potential, not precedent. Until the concept of Megas being depicted outside of battles is reproduced, Soaring is the exception to the Mega Evolution rule.

Therefore, Sceptile is not a Dragon outside of battle until Megas can be represented outside of battle.

>>25765736
>outside of battle
I mean to say, until Megas can be applied in the over world. Soaring is still the exception even in ORAS, since it's a separate mechanic to the over world.

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>>25762965
>female

>>25765736

Sheer Cold fits thematically for Suicune anyway. You'd be hard pressed to find an event move that doesn't. You go on about exceptions yet refuse to allow an "exception" for mega dragons, which is far less of a thematic stretch.

>Soaring doesn't count because reasons
>Event Jirachi and non-natural Dragon Arceus doesn't count because reasons
>only I can arbitrarily decide when enough exceptions have been made to allow this other exception

Eat a dick kiddo.

>>25765682
The consistency as of Gen 6 is that only Dragon types in the over world can be taught Draco Meteor. Arceus is the exception, because he can be a Dragon type in the over world.

The event Jirachi does not count and is an exception, because it already knows Draco Meteor when it is given to you. If you could take the event Jirachi to the tutor and teach it Draco Meteor, then yes, that would break consistency.

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>>25765800
>>25764856

I just came here to say that this is bullshit. Arceus does not have to be holding a dragon plate when you talk to the tutor, it can learn the move anyway. So "dragon potential" is considered good enough.

>>25765798
Okay kiddo, let me explain this to you in simple terms:

Rules/Consistency, as of Gen 6
>Mega Evolution only applies to battles, not the over world.
Exception: Soaring. Soaring depicts Mega Lati@s outside of a battle, but it is currently non applicable, because it does not allow you to have a Mega Lati@s in the over world.

>Draco Meteor can only be tutored to a Pokemon who is Dragon type in the over world
Exception: Arceus can be a Dragon type in the over world.
Event Jirachi doesn't even factor into that, because it already knows Draco Meteor when you receive it. If you could take the event Jirachi to the tutor and teach it Draco Meteor, then it would break the consistency.

Unless Gen 7 allows you to mega evolve in the over world, Soaring will remain an exception.

>>25765833
Well all right then, Arceus is just a straight-up exception to the rule because it's the creator of all things.

>Wow, The Lord God Almighty can do anything, so why can't I desu?

>>25765800
You really think that the lore is whether or not the pokemon is Dragon in the overworld or not?

You realize that the "overworld" is a non-canon, gameplay exclusive element, right? It's not like they literally teleport to another dimension anytime they enter battle.

>>25765859

I'm not saying you can currently have megas in the overworld, I'm saying that it would be an appropriate mechanic to introduce as a workaround to the tutor issue, given that Soaring shows that megas don't have to be in battle. It could also have other applications like letting you view megas in your party screen, or in amie, etc.

>>25765871

Arceus can't do anything, there are many learnable moves that it can't learn.

also
>moving the goalposts

>>25765872
The lore is pretty subjective unless flat-out rules are laid out. The rule currently is that only fully-fledged Dragons have the power to be taught Draco Meteor. Yeah, the rule could be retconned at any time in the future, but that's just what we have presently.

>>25762593
Sceptile is such a fucking badass in Pokken. Holy shit. I really wish I had a Wii U, now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzadRLhd7VE

>>25765910
It's almost surely an oversight by Gamefreak. If it's a rule that has multiple exceptions, and can be retconned, that aint much of a rule, now is it? It's just a pattern.

Also what exactly consistutes a "full fledged dragon?" Arceus can learn it, and it spends less time being a dragon than the 3 mega's do. By all accounts, Arceus is "less of a dragon" than M-Sceptile is.

>>25765910

Arceus learns it.

>b-but he's a god

That's not why he learns it. He learns it because he can become a dragon. Same applies to mega dragons.

>>25765942
Just watched that earlier. Looks fun as fuck. That command grab looks insanely good, has invincibility on startup.

Anyone else think it's odd that they went with the ninja theme with him? I mean.. I dont mind, I like ninjas and.. it doesn't exactly NOT fit him. I guess I just would've pictured him fighting more like a raptor though. Also kind of odd that they went with Sceptile as the ninja type, and not Greninja, the actual ninja.

>>25765948
Not by all accounts, by your subjective reasoning. At this point, Arceus is the exception simply because it is the Creator Pokemon and no other non-Dragon can be taught it. Arceus is just the one exception, and other than him, only fully-fledged Dragon Pokemon can be taught Draco Meteor. That's just the current rule. Consistent? Yes. Logical? No

>>25765960
Okay anon, throwing out all the head canon, Arceus can learn it simply because GF decided that he would be the only non-Dragon who could learn it. That still makes him the exception to the rule, and because no other non-Dragon can be taught Draco Meteor, the "rule" is technically consistent, albeit arbitrary and likely to change in future generations.

>>25766005

But that would justify giving him all learnable moves, like Mew, yet he doesn't learn them.

The reason he learns Meteor is because he can become a dragon type through a forme. Dragon megas are the same in that regard.

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>>25762593
man its so weird seeing sceptile in drawn artwork after playing pokken so much

>>25766040
Your reasoning (Dragon potential) is your own head canon. Just like my own head canon that is ultimately faulty. At the end of the day, GF decided that only fully-fledged Dragons could be taught Draco Meteor, except Arceus. Anything else is just subjective head canon that may or may not translate into future retcons.

>>25766062

Yes I know it's up to Gamefreak, I'm saying it would be justified for the numerous above reasons.

>>25766055
Okay, totally autistic complaint here, but his pokken proportions bother me. Thick, bent neck, large hands, spindly tail.. Just kinda throws the design off. I dont know why, but this sort of shit bothers me really easily.

>>25766062

The original post was saying that "only outside Dragon types" should learn Draco Meteor, and I was arguing why that's arbitrary, already has exceptions, and has no reason to preclude mega dragons. I'm arguing for adding it in the future.

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>>25766055

>>25766163
If sceptile was in smash I would never stop cumming

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>>25766181
Nope, just Lucario

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>>25765585
>Serena covering her skirt from the wind
I got hard.

>>25766163
HOW CAN WE MAKE SCEPTILE A SMASH CHARACTER? I voted for him on the Smash Ballot...

>>25766279
Why the fuck is the living fursuit still relevant?

Sceptile's Mega is one of the best Mega designs.

>Excels in Sp. Attack
>Knows Leaf Blade

Being a grassfan is tough

I feel like Sceptile needs a new exclusive move.

What do you guys think it should be?

>>25766284
>implying any pokemon could become the ballot winner

there's too much variety anon, too many different favorites for a standout choice over a franchise with a single definitive main character.

>>25766973
yeah it's almost like Leaf Blade was a special move back in gen 3

My first level 100 too. Got him as a starter in sapphire, took him for a trip in XD, to Johto in SS, to Unova and then to Kalos. But adulthood came and to not starve, I had to sell my 3DS with Pokemon Y in it's memory, losing all my mons from all the games.

RIP, Zeus the Sceptile
RIP, my purified Dark Lugia
Miss you

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>>25768391
Torterra is better tho

>>25768454
I meant this for OP

>>25762965
>ASH
i still have my swampert from sapphire and i done that exact thing

I kind of want to use him as a starter on my OR playthrough but I'm not sure what's the best way to play with him is. Physical movepool seems ok but the attack is underwhelming compared to the special attack.

>>25764716
Just play ou with your bros and grow a semblance yourself. I'm sure you can come up with an ou team based around sceptile.

>>25765554
Oh my god so much! All he needs is a special pivot. Both his best attacks drop that special the opportunity to switch with out withdrawal would make him so much better, even if it has an immunity.

>>25762658
>>25766973
>>25768391
>>25768454
Underageb&

>>25768533

It doesn't matter in story mode. I just ran with the highest BP moves in story mode. Dual Chop and Leaf Blade got me through pretty much the whole game, including against Wally's entire team (Sceptile swept) and May's Mega Blaziken.

>>25769312

I just realized that it's mainly the mega that has a big gap between the two so I could just use another pokemon for mega evolution and go physical/highest BP sceptile I guess.

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>>25767044
Something to do with his Mega form's tail
Tail Missile
Type: Grass
Category: Special
Power: 120 BP
Accuracy: 85%
PP: 5
30% chance to make the opponent flinch; can hit multiple targets

>>25768454
Kill yourself, underaged Sinnohfetus.

>>25769912
Hoennbabies are underaged too, newfag.

>>25769950
At least people who were born during the year Gen 3 began are teenagers.

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Some anon made me this a while back and I love him for that to this day

sceptile is the worst grass type next to meganium

>>25764631
Give him Flamethrower since it fits his dragon typing.

>>25770166
Nah. That would be Torterra. It's the only other Grass starter in PU besides Meg.

>>25770272
theres a PU tier now?
grass starters seem like they get the short end of the stick.

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>>25770116
>Sceptile is 5'7

Jesus Christ just how tall are you

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>skipped gen 3 as a kid for some reason
>got OR after /vp/ turned me into a Sceptilefag
>picked Treecko
>first female starter I've ever gotten
>0IV in SpAtk
>wrecked shit anyway
and now she's my top Pokebro

>>25770519
Late response but around 6 feet.

>>25771400

scale on that pic is way off then.

>>25771505
I didn't actually even say my height. Didn't mind it much because I always subscribe to the theory that Pokemon are a huge range of sizes within their species

>>25771505
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dS12p0Zqlt0

>>25771623
>>25771505
What kind of meal would you eat with your sceptile bro?

>>25764895
Serperior has a shit movepool. That's the only thing holding it back from destroying shit without trying.

>>25771700
I really wanted it to be good. It has the stats to make it work but such a shitty selection of moves

>>25771669
If you mean I'm eating with a Sceptile, then a salad.
If you mean I'm eating a Sceptile, then some kind of stew

>>25771825
Don't you think it would be offended with you eating the salad?

>>25771895
It's a fresh Tropius salad though.

>>25771930
I kind of want to make a recipe for that now

Sceptile Is a true bro.

I'd buy him a beer anytime.

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>>25762593
Best starter.
Best Pokken.
Best Grass.
Best Pokemon.

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>>25762965

>level 100 sceptile
>first level 100
>called OT ASH, specifically in caps
I HAVE THE EXACT SAME FUCKING THING WHAT THE FUCK ANON?!

>tfw we will never be childhood friends

>>25764631

>swap atk and sp atk stats
>mega should increase atk instead of defense


Sceptile was always meant to be physical. His signature move is physical, his best moves are physical. There's NO good reason why this shouldn't be.

>>25773235
It would've been kinda awkward to be childhood friends if you also had a Sceptile and your character was also named ASH, though.

One of us would have had to pick Torchic or Mudkip to be proper rivals.

>>25773268
We already had a Physical attacker starter in 3rd gen, That was Swampert.
We had a Mixed attacker starter, that was Blaziken.
It would make sense that Sceptile would be the Special attacker starter.

What's a good competitive moveset for Sceptile?

>>25769906
How the fuck is that tail rocket propelled?

>>25774267
Probably some sort of flammable fluid.

Does anybody know if there is a plant with flammable fluid?

>>25773328
All of the Gen 1 starters are special attackers unless you count Mega Zard X as a separate Pokémon.

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>>25774267

Solar power. You can see the bulbs on its tail explode when it launches it.

>>25762712
Dead batteries in Gen 3 don't delete your save, you complete fucking idiot. They just make the clock stop.

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>>25774267
>>25776337
Looks like electricity to me, makes more sense with the lightning rod ability and all.