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Give Butterfree a Mega that would make it OU.

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Give Butterfree a Mega that would make it OU.
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Mega Butterfree
Bug/Psychic
Ability: Fur Coat

60 > 60
45 > 45
50 > 80 (+30)
90 > 110 (+20)
80 > 110 (+30)
70 > 90 (+20)

Quiver Dance set up sweeper with excellent defenses. Psychic typing gets rid of the 4x Rock weakness and fits well with Butterfree's affinity to psychic type moves.
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Mega Butterfree
Bug/Flying
Aerilate
65/155/120/65/90/105

Then give it like Quick Attack and Close Combat or something.
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>>25734499
This is plain stupid
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>>25734476
This would be not even close to OU.
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Mega Butterfree
Bug/ Fairy
Prankster
HP:60
Attack:45
Defense:50 (+20)
Sp.Atk:80 (+30)
Sp.Def:80 (+10)
Speed: 70 (+40)
Could be a real cunt with prankster. Plenty of powders, a few points to shore up its defenses, a retyping, and it could good.
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>>25734504
your head
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>>25734499
You've increased it's HP. And given it over a 100 stat boost.
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>>25734499
Congrats, it's a worse pinsir.
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>>25734552
>>25734504
>>25734508
Brainstorm some better ones then dumbass
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>>25734552
wow you saw the joke congrats you're very smart
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Butterfree
Simple
Bug/fairy
+40 special defense
+40 defense
-30 attack
+30 special attack
+20 speed
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>>25734524
I actually really like this one, but even as a mega, it's stats are very mediocre
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>>25734508
Pretty sure it would. It'd have a couple of weaknesses, but the bulk makes up for it. It reaches a defense of 436 with max defense investment and it can boost its speed, special attack and special defense with quiver dance to become even bulkier on the special side while also being an offensive threat.
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>>25734381
Bug/Flying
Ability: Compound Eyes
60 HP (+0)
15 Atk (-30) Beedrill got to be minmaxed, why not?
90 Def (+40)
109 SpA (+19)
95 SpD (+15)
126 Spe (+56)

Now you have STAB Hurricanes, accurate Sleep Powder, accurate Stun Spore, accurate Hurricane, accurate Supersonic for in case you want to confuse stuff, and you still have the old Quiver Dance shenanigans. It's one point faster than Darkrai and hits almost as hard. Only things holding it back are Sleep Clause and priority moves.
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>>25734618
Have you not played since Gen IV? Maybe it could have worked then.
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>>25734636
>butterfree
>hurricane
Pick only one.
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>>25734524

Give it the Beedrill treatment.

Mega Butterfree
Bug/ Fairy
Prankster
HP:60
Attack:45 (-30)
Defense:50 (+30)
Sp.Atk:80 (+40)
Sp.Def:80 (+20)
Speed: 70 (+40)
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>>25734524
>prankster
Nice meme
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>>25734636
Oh shit, I just looked it up and Butterfree doesn't learn Hurricane! WTF?
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>>25734524
This is the best one. I was gonna make one but this one is better. Here I'd lower it's Attack by 30, give that 30 to Sp.Atk, and lower it's speed by 10 and give it to it's Sp.Atk.
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Just make it a Sp. Atk parallel to M-Beedrill and give it Sheer Force.
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>>25734381
Mega Butterfree
Psychic/Flying
Compound Eyes
HP:60
Attack: 25 (-20)
Defense: 50
Sp.Atk: 140 (+50)
Sp.Def: 80
Speed: 140 (+70)

Faster, harder hitting revenge killer/sweeper. STAB Hurricane+acc boost (though it would need to be given it next gen), sleep powder+acc boost, Psychic, and then another attack, powder or Quiver Dance.
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>>25734697
Sheer Force won't do anything also, it won't be as good as Mega Beedrill because Beedrill can U-Turn which is physical. Also Beedrill is UU.
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It's base typing is pretty bad and unless it gets a massive stat boost,it won't even come close to UU,let alone OU.Plus it needs a better movepool.

Anyways,here it goes

Mega Butterfree
Bug/(Fairy/Psychic)

Ability : Serene Grace?(Would be great with Silver/Ominous Wind)

HP:80
Att :20
Def :100
Sp.Attack : 130
Sp.Defence : 100
Speed : 90

I made more defensive,because it won't even survive most attacks in the OU tier.
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>>25734667

Get cucked.

There's already a Compound Eyes Hurricane early bug, and its name ain't Butterfree.
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>>25734476
>Bug/Psychic

I like this a lot actually.
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>>25734476
>>25734618
>Bug/Psychic
>shit type offensively
>shit type defensively
>almost no coverage
>base 90 speed only
>outclasses
>wastes a mega slot
Nah.

>>25734524
>no Fairy STAB attacks
>no serious balk despite the acceptable defensive type
>prankster powders and roost aren't so much of a threat
>will be never considered as mega slot in OU
Doesn't work either, Mega Beedrill itself isn't worthy of OU and even UU sometimes, sure it got an amazing threatment from GF but some megas aren't necessarily supposed to be broken or extremely viable, they are "powered up" yes, but you can buff some Pokemon and those will still remain mediocre.

>>25734636
I don't get the +Def boosts that are higher than +10 on butterfree, 60/90 phys bulk will still remain uninvested and redundant on such frail Pokemon.

>>25734659
How is Butterfree even a prankster.

>>25734727
Now that is something, basically stopped by physical priorities only if it manages to set up on passive mons, instant sheer power is the only solution for this shitmon like for Beedrill, at last Beedrill had a better coverage.
Cannot learn Hurricane tho, and Bug Buzz would have been better, Bug/Psychic perhaps?
Bug/Psychic would resist both Fighting and Earthquake anyway. Still mediocre kinda.

>>25734773
>megas gaining HP


Butterfree has no way to be relevant to Battle Spot / VGC or fanfic OU, just make it a poor men's Volcarona or Vivillon for lower tiers with Effect Powder instead of Flame Body and a little more bulk.
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>>25734958
No ones denying butterfree is shit, were only making lemons out of lemonade
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There's literally no way it would ever be OU with the Rocks weakness and Birb weakness.
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>>25735055
Just like Talonflame and Charizard and Volcorona right?
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If you want it to be OU you're gonna have to give it some ridiculous ability

>ButterBuff: This Pokemon's stats each raise by one every turn

Even this might not save it
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Mega Butterfree
Bug/Fairy
Ability: Simple

HP: 60 (+0)
Att: 15 (-30)
Def: 150 (+100)
SpA: 100 (+10)
SpD: 90 (+10)
Spe: 80 (+10)

Quiver Dance abuser with double boosts from Simple, exploiting his natural high Defense and increasing its Special Defense while turning into a dangerous sweeper.
Maybe make it learn Dazzling Gleam, too.
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>>25735334
Insane, but could work.
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>>25735083
Only volcarona is weak to birb and no one uses it because of that
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>>25734476
>252 Atk Sharp Beak Talonflame Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Fur Coat Butterfree: 144-170 (44.4 - 52.4%) -- 18.8% chance to 2HKO
>this
>roost
>sleep powder
>quiver dance
might be cool
its got a niche as a sleep inducer that can boost speed at least, and fur coat is way better than i thought it was
also checks 3/4 of the most common powder absorbers in venu and the shrooms by just dropping boosted psychics so thats fun
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Mega Butterfree
Bug/Flying
Ability: Eternal OU

Eternal OU: Upon switch in, Butterfree immediately transforms into the eternal, transcendental, OU-mon, Gengar. This ability will solidify Butterfree as being OU for all generations to come. This also allows one to bypass the species clause. You may be able to stop one Gengar, but not two.
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We already have vivillon
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>>25735334
>Simple
>Quiver Dance

Now that's a threat.
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Ability: BUG swarm: this Pokemon does extra damage/ a damage over time for every bug Pokemon on your team, it self is included

This is to take a different approach, more tanky and the bugs do the work for it ala vespiquinn

Stats 25+ on both defenses 35+ spa 15+ speed, could min max attack but not necessary

Ideal moveset? Infestation, Bug buzz/Hurricane, quiver dance + a recovery move
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>>25735083

Yes, actually, Volcarona isn't OU, largely because of Talonflame.
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