HAPPENING

amazing it only took almost two months to get a clear picture of what is going on!

>>25720322
Ok.

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ALL ABOARD THE HYPE TRAIN

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>mfw First footage likely OR/AS

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>>25720322
finally, i almost forgot those games existed due to lack of info

>>25720322
>post yfw it shows only in-game footage without revealing the starters and box legendaries

>>25720400
i'll be okay with anything at this point
revealing nothing except logos is ridiculous

>>25720399
Not using the colgate one

>>25720399
>>25720400
>>25720411
Dam back to back to back dubs the meme magic is real

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Remember what we got last time?

I can already see it.
>30 minutes of bullshit
>10 seconds of character walking around some random city just before the credits roll

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>>25720400

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>>25720411
ask and you shall receive

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>>25720421
>he was hype for ORAS

>>25720439
Kek thanks

>>25720424
The TV show does not exist to reveal news, you retard

>>25720443
I was hype roughly until the demo datamine

I hope SM won't have any demos at all

>>25720450
who cares

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New female trainer porn finally.

>>25720465
hate to be a patterfag but they won't reveal the trainer artworks that early (since it's simply not that important)

the order is nearly always roughly
>random newgen pokemon
>starters
>legendaries
>game titles
>the rest

>>25720337
Shocking, isn't it? It's almost like this is how the typical pre-release season actually goes. X/Y was the exception.

>>25720421
Dude I would be happy if they showed the box legendaries.

>>25720322
NOOOO, APRIL FOOLS IT'S TOO NEAR, IT'S DANGEROUS.

>>25720322

K. Keep me updated.

>>25720322
GIMME MY FIRE/GROUND STARTER GAMEFREAK REEEEE

SUGOIIII
KAWAII KAWAIIIIIII

5 bucks Sun/Moon only brings 50 new pokemon and 20 new megas.

Who still has the screencap of bathing naked man from oras annoucement?

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>>25720322
>it has been confirmed that in the episode of Gathering at the Pokémon House, the variety show that airs in Japan every Sunday, that airs on April 3rd, series Director Junichi Masuda will be on, alongside battle director Shigeki Morimoto and game director Shigeru Ohmori and will talk about the new games, presumably Pokémon Sun & Moon

>game director Shigeru Ohmori
>game director Shigeru Ohmori
>game director Shigeru Ohmori
dropped so fucking hard

>>25720424
Doesn't bother me, I watch Pokenchi for Hyadain anyway. Just gives me another reason to look forward too it.

>>25720561
>not Abareru-kun
You have shit taste in bros.

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>>25720322
HAPPENING

>>25720558
Aw fuck.

>>25720567
I like Abareru-kun and Shokotan too of course, but I've been into Hyadain since before he even hit it big and it's the only place to really see him do anything at the moment.

All I care about is whether the games will have the same graphic style as gen 6. If so then the hype is dead for me.

>>25720558
Is that a bad thing? I know nothing about the , spoonfeed me please

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>>25720322
>mfw they retcon megas

>>25720580
This. I fucking hate the look of ORAS and X/Y.

>>25720590
He directed ORAS.

Hopefully we get Professor Palm reveal

>>25720595
Funny, it's the only thing I like about it. Everything is super cute.

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>>25720597
At least he didn't direct R/B and X/Y, so I'm fine with this

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>>25720558
Oh fuck no, this game may already be fucked

>>25720580
It will

>>25720580
The fact that the style is different is literally the one thing we know about it. It has a kinda Wind Waker-ish style.

>>25720597
So then the games will be good. Nice

>>25720494
Except they already revealed the titles, so they broke your precious pattern.

>>25720580
Probably will.

>>25720558
Hype dead. I thought we'd last a little longer, but it's already confirmed to be shit.

>>25720613
Why would the games be fucked?

>>25720558
Press F to pay respects

>>25720632
How? Wtf

>>25720636
Being directed by the guy who directed the worst entries into the franchise thus far.

ORAS was good you dummies

>>25720645
But he didn't direct XY

>>25720645
So he directed RBYG?

>>25720643
>>25720636
They are memeing you retards. ORAS was great so this will be too.

>>25720645
but he didn't direct d/p

>>25720657
>>25720658
>O-ORAS was a totally good game guys I swear!!

Just fuck off. We're sick of your gen war memes.

>>25720645
but he didn't direct gen 5

>>25720636
>ORAS Defense Force ITT
Enjoy your casualized gutted Hoenn, Emerald will always be superior.

>>25720645
He directed g/s?

>>25720521
It's on 3rd April, not 1st April.

>>25720668
ORAS was better than RSE, the previous best games in the series so....

>>25720668
>we

>>25720662
>different opinions is memeing

I bet you are one of those people who go "objectively the worst" too

I love HGSS to death and can acknowledge it's flaws, you should learn to do the same

>>25720558
FUCK THIS SHIT ITS GOING TO BE ANOTHER SHIT TIER ORAS 2.0 FUCK i BET Y'ALL ONE HUNDRED DOLLARS SUN N MOON REUSE ORAS SHIT 3D MODELS SHIT BUILDING/OVERWORLD MODELS FUCK THAT IM NOT BUYING SHIT

>>25720580
Not sure about overworld but it will definitely use the same Pokemon models

>>25720594

THIS.

PLEASE.

>>25720681
Emerald was a good game, R/S are meh at best and ORAS are literally garbage that shouldn't have even been released.

>>25720657
>>25720658
>>25720663
>>25720669
>>25720678
lel

>>25720691
>new pokemon news announced
>free gems
what a blessed day. and its not even noon!

>>25720673
When Emerald gets Wifi and Mega Evolution, Dexnav, soaring
Physical Special split
better breeding mechanics
easier ev training THEN you will be right. Until then, enjoy your shit game

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>>25720694
They'll probably reuse the Battle Maison like they did in ORAS instead of actually using the Battle Frontier.

>>25720687
No you retard the ORAS is a bad game thing is literally a meme.

I thought ORAS were great as far as main game was concerned, its just that it completely dropped the ball on side content.

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>>25720691

>>25720658

Watch out for those sharp edges guys

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>>25720322
>friendly reminder that pic related was first ORAS footage to air on TV

It's not going to be a sneak like in ORAS. That sneak was the trailer for May2014's Corocoro. Now we have a new Corocoro with news. Most likely box legendaries confirmed.

>>25720708

No it's not, they were literally bad games

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>>25720706
>the Battle Chatelians will be back for round 3
fuck

>>25720708
This is worse than when people overuse the word bait

>>25720705
>Soaring

People who use this as a bro fucking baffle me. It's a great feature but you don't get it until literally the end of the game. Same with the new Pokemon, it's like they could change and remove all this other shit but hey, can't add things that'll improve the game until you're one gym away from completion!

Like goddamn, fair enough you can use soaring for post game or whatever but when the entire games is a massive bike sim then it's just fucked.

>>25720678

Nice meme my friend

>>25720714
>friendly reminder that they never advertised that at all and it was shitty western video game websites that blew up the story as something huge

>>25720612
XY is better than ORAS, so you just proved the point

>>25720717
They were not bad games. They are better then R/S/E in almost every way.

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>>25720729
>XY is better than ORAS

>>25720705
Wifi, Megas, physical/special split, and the breeding mechanics and easier EV training were ALL things that ORAS would've had regardless, but it added ZERO new areas. Soaring and dexnav are alright but not nearly enough to carry this game with so much wasted potential.

>>25720580
>post yfw Sun n Moon reuse the every single assist from ORAS with just the new pokemon being new thing

I thought we already knew the april 3rd episode would have masuda and co. in it. not really news.

>>25720717
Still not word than the Original Ruby and Sapphire. That's not saying much though

>>25720733
it is though

ORAS doesn't have roller skates or customization options

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>>25720735
it's gonna happen I know it

>>25720700
The essence of /vp/ right there.

>>25720723
>end of the game
>you get it before fly

What?

>>25720594
I like Megas but that would actually be a pretty good idea all things considered. They created such a massive power rift even within the Megas themselves (compare Mega Pidgeot to something like Mega Salamence for instance) that it might be wise to just drop the entire thing altogether, at least for the first game of the new generation. The only other option is an even bigger power creep, which is never a good thing.

>>25720734
Doesn't matter. The fact that these feature are in the game make them better than RSE.
Hoenn with Wi-Fi is great.
Wasted potential yes, bad games, not unless you hate Hoenn (But then you wouldn't like these games either way)

>>25720739
We had no idea exactly which episode it was going to be

>>25720558
No Masuda is the director.

>>25720756
Which game gives you the Eon Flute before you get Fly?

>>25720744
The roller skates were fucking terrible and I'd rather have no customization than extremely shitty options.

>>25720756
>Once you obtain the Eon Flute item, given to you by Steven after you have captured or defeated Primal Groudon/Kyogre, you can call upon Latios/Latias and they will Mega Evolve and take you up into the sky.

I get it now. The people who defend ORAS haven't actually played it. Now it makes sense.

>>25720744
So you are basing a game's quality entirely on two minor features that practically have nothing to do with the gameplay, the world, story or anything?

Also did people actually unironically enjoy rollerskates? They became completely irrelevant once you got your bike.

>>25720744
roller skates were obnoxious, though

Hoenn was never good in any game. Hoennbabys and NeoHoennbabys need to get this through their heads already.

>>25720781
>But muh tricks
Right?

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>>25720322
Look at all of these people suddenly whining like little babies for little to no reason and making Ohmori their bogeyman. Likely simply because they didn't get their precious Battle Frontier.

Ohmori's been with Game Freak doing stuff since Ruby/Sapphire. Solely blaming him for ORAS for whatever reason is absolutely asinine.

After all, his first actual job as a game director was for a pair of remakes.

>>25720781
you imply the other points are better on ORAS

>>25720796
I think Emerald is a good game, but I do hate the Hoenn region.

>>25720781
I never used my bike outside of breeding. I haven't used my bike in a Pokemon game since HG/SS.

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>>25720705
>>25720731

>no frontier
>no gym leader rematches
>less trainers than Emerald, and a layout that takes out half the double battles
>lower framerate
>lower gym leader levels than Emerald, Tate and Liza only have two pokemon
>everything handed to you
>Delta episode was all terrible, writing wise

whatever you say man

>>25720731

All five games were terrible. R/S/E at least generated some cool hype back in its day, obviously when you compare it to the current games it's going to fall short. When you're judging the older games you need to take technological limitations into account.

>literally memeing this hard

>>25720799
And he fucked that up. Somehow he fucked up a pair of fucking remakes.

>>25720796
And neither was Gen 1. Look at all the Glitches and Broken mechanics and lack of content in general as well

>tfw the new games will still have massive frame drops even in single battles because gf can't optimize for shit without iwata

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>1 week until gen 7 fags get BTFO

Guys, guys. I'm giving him a chance. ORAS was a rushed project and it was a remake so he had to follow some guidelines. Maybe with more space to make a use if his creativity he can really bring up something magneficent. I want to believe. Also I'm a colossal faggot nintendrone and eat his shit anyway

>>25720812

And worst of all, no fucking place to properly train your Pokemon. Imagine having to wait for Audino or doing the E4.

Can someone here actually - no hyperbole, no memes, no "no u"-tier arguments - explain why ORAS were worse games than XY?

XY had a nonexistent postgame, an awfully bland story, some of the weakest rivals in the series and a region with few even remotely interesting routes.

I'm not saying ORAS is a masterpiece but it has postgame content up the ass, some of the best routes in the series and there was an actual attempt at a story at one point in the game.

Does all the ORAS hate stem from the dropped character customization and no Battle Frontier?

>>25720812
Literally the only battle thing in there is the lower framerate and that's just because of the 3DS and I suppose the noGym rreaches (Just use EXP O power in the E4 though)

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>>25720594
god i hope so

>>25720831
>what are blissey bases

>>25720733
last I checked XY had better berry system, had better safari, can rematch, had a better grinding spot, had very little HM use, and didn't have a retarded Episode

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>>25720833
>post game content up the ass

>>25720833
You know people will just reply with
>ORAS
>postgame content up the ass
with a smug reaction image right? It has a little, but not nearly up the ass.

>>25720833
It's a meme. Of course saying oras hate is a meme is also a meme, but you know what I'm saying here.

>>25720764
>The only other option is an even bigger power creep, which is never a good thing.

They'll just to a "Burst Evolution" which they "retcon" Mega Evolution. It's more or less the same but the Pokemons changed and look exactly like your character.

>>25720831
There's loads of trainer rematches as well as secret bases, but yeah gym leader rematches would have been nice.

>>25720322
Is the sun/moon director REALLY ohmori? Im not seeing that information anywhere.

If he was that would mean this game has only been in development for a little over a year which i find hard to believe.

>>25720833
>but it has postgame content up the ass

Ah, so you didn't actually play the game. I suppose to 15 year olds 20 minutes of Exposition, a copy/paste battle facility and an infinite biking simulator are in their own way postgame out the ass.

>>25720833
Yup
Literally every point people mention to say why the originals were Bette are features that actually didn't matter at all or were very minor

>>25720833
>ORAS had postgame

It only had Delta, by that logic XY had one too

ORAS had shitty rival fights too and had NO interesting routes unlike XY

>>25720833
>explain why ORAS were worse games than XY?

ORAS is a remake. The engine, characters, story, and region is all mostly reused. So it should deliver on even MORE to make up for it. Yet it didn't.

XY had little post-game, but at least the story was new, the characters were new, it had new Pokemon, a new region, and it even has some features that ORAS doesn't. I got far more enjoyment out of XY than ORAS. I played XY for months after its release but I got bored of ORAS after a week. Because at the end of the day it's just the same shit I already played on my GBA but with even less to do after the game than Emerald.

>>25720843

I can't find any.

>>25720506
for bw we got screens of the game few days later, it's not much but at least it's something

>>25720843
>>25720857
>relying on secret bases

I think I enjoy hype season more than the actual games

>>25720872
Literally use Google.

>>25720594
Didn't they imply megas were in an alternate timeline already? So it wouldn't even be a retcon so much as "lol guys we're back in the original timeline".

>>25720860
Haven't seen anything confirming this

>>25720645
I FUCKING TOLD Y'ALL THEY JUST STARTING WORKING ON IT FUCK THIS RUSHED PIECE OF SHIT HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH ORAS 2.0 ORAS 2.0 ORAS 2.0 ORAS 2.0

>>25720851
>>25720854
>>25720861
>>25720863
So delta episode, mirage spots, legendaries, secret bases, contests, battle maison etc. doesn't count as postgame content?

What did XY have for you to do once you beat the game? 3 catchable legendaries, a 15-minute long Looker sidequest, letting your pokemon fuck in the daycare until they shit out shinies and going online.

>>25720764
>>25720764
What they need is a complete overhaul of the entire list of pokemon.

>Tweak all the base stats to acceptable levels, boost some weaklings (e.g. Sunflora/Ledian) and nerf some OP lines of pokemon.
>Streamline abilities and tweak useless ones to be better
>Tweak useless moves (e.g. Teleport/Comet Punch/Constrict) to be more useful
>Eliminate Megas, retcon some to normal evolutions, and allow for Griseous Orb style forme changes that allow for gameplay variations for pokemon
>Get rid of the "pokemon can only evolve twice" mentality and have proper lines for pokemon from baby to behemoth stage

>>25720897
I'd be fine with that. ORAS were great

>>25720716
When is the next corocoro out anyway?

>>25720910
The 15th. Just like every month.

>>25720910
Middle of April.

>>25720875
so you're a retard then

>>25720904
I love how you count maison for one but didn't in the other, separated mirage spot from legendaries even though they're one, and conveniently ignore a lot of others too (and even putting etc. as thought here is more)

friend safari, maison, chateau (which itself is rematch haven, not only just for trainers but gym leaders and E4, and with custom rules, and teams), among other things

>>25720731
>>25720742

>Implying that this somehow makes ORAS good in any way

On a side note, mfw I'll never see a battle like Red from G/S

>>25720875
You didn't even move the goalposts, you hallucinated up new ones.

>>25720904
It's postgame content I don't like, so it doesn't count!

>>25720904
contests, mirage spots, and secret bases aren't post-game. And the former two aren't even that fun Contests are literally just "max out the stats on your pikachu and spam these two moves to auto win" while mirage spots are just nonsense that makes it a pain to get all the TMs.

Nobody gives a shit about legendaries because most of them weren't given their own areas and breaking news: people already HAVE all of them, nobody cares about the delta episode because it takes less than an hour to do and may as well be a part of the main game, nobody cares about the battle maison because everyone already beat it it in XY.

Fucking EMERALD has better post-game than ORAS does.

>>25720917
>>25720925
no, because I didn't need to rely on other trainer content to be able to rematch and grind on older games, even in XY

this just proves me how much newfags ORASfags are, or didn't even touch XY

Don't care who is directing it, it could still be great.
desu though they should have gotten Tajiri to direct the games for 20th anniversary

>>25720881

This. I don't even play pokemon anymore, and I never visit vp or Serebii unless it's hype season

>>25720904
Half the things you listed aren't even actual postgame and are things you can do way earlier.

The battle maision is a copy/paste from XY, Delta Episode is a 15-minute long exposition quest. There's nothing of substance.

>>25720929
it's worse, he's selecting post game shit while conveniently ignoring the other game and even think Maison is ORAS only, hilarious

and even this faggot thinks the guy is right >>25720926

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>>25720929
>it's not postgame content because I don't like it and don't give a shit about it
Excellent point anon! You win the debate!

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>>25720322
>everybody in this thread

>>25720949
>he thinks post game is something that doesn't happen after the game

ORASfags are retarded indeed

>>25720949
It's not postgame content because most of it is available before postgame.

>>25720929
>Thinking Emerald has a better post game
>Literally just a bunch of hax reliant facilities
Kek, only good thing in the Battle Frontier was the Battle Factory and even then it wasn't THAT great

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>people here not understanding Ohmori's master plan

Oh I'll be enjoying my Frontier in Sun Moon. What will you guys do?

>>25720959
it's better to think they don't really like ORAS and just shitpost, because no one would seriously think ORAS had more content

>>25720534
What makes you say that? every other gen brings many or few new ones
6 had few, so probably 7 will have many

>>25720558
He also gamedesigned HGSS, so don't give up yet

>>25720419
that's not the meming of "meme magic" newfag

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Excited for glorious 3 seconds of footage

>>25720949
Ironic image because you completely missed the point of his post, congratulations

>>25720929
>Nobody cares so it doesn't count

wew, Anti ORASfags are as bad as ORASfags

>>25720968
And yet it's still far better and more interesting than what ORAS has to offer.

>>25720906

>Nidoran are now just one pokemon with two different gender forms instead of two different pokemon but otherwise evolve into Nidoking/queen like normal

Hell, as shit as it was bringing fags over, XY managed to have continuous Safari threads in /vp/. It showed how much people were busy doing that.

ORAS didn't have anything like that.

>>25720973
>What makes you say that? every other gen brings many or few new ones
>6 had few, so probably 7 will have many

SM is still gen 6. It'll just bring the other part of the pokedex XY didn't have. That's why XY only has 70 Pokemon and no all 100 stat mythical Pokemon.

>>25720975
>Those 3 seconds only show the player character walking out of a house
>"OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH"
>it's over

>>25720965
>>25720959
>Post game
>Things that you do after finishing the game
?????

So tell me, where is all the glorious XY post game that, according to your own definition, is only exclusively available after finishing the game? It might be hard to find, so let me know and I'll lend you a microscope.

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>Ohmori directing


Shit, at least they gave us a warning this time.

>>25720999
>he is such a faggot he didn't do friend safari
>nor battle maison
>nor the Looker quest that, while short, was more endearing than the shit that is Delta

>Things that you do after finishing the game

Contest, etc. are doable before finishing the game anon.

>>25720983
Yeah, totally better than PSS, DEXNAV, Better breeding EV training, Hidden abilities, Mega Evolution, More Pokemon etc

Maybe post game wise? But all the facilities were basically reskins of eachother. Yet Battle Mansion is better for farming BP so its still better

>>25720999
>>25720922
Holy shit you're retarded, you can also add the looker quest

>>25721008
Contests stop being doable once you finish the game? Jeez anon.

>>25721010
anon I'm on agreeing with you that the faggot intently ignored a lot of XY's stuff

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ORAS is my favourite game.

>>25720906
Teleport: if used in a trainer battle, it switches out the user no matter what. Even through shadow tag or arena trap. Can even be used to dodge a pursuit trap

There. Viable on some Pokemon

>>25721007
Show me a source saying that he's directing

>>25721019
>literal mental gymnastics on what post-game content means which has been defined since Gen 2

you're digging a deep hole anon

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>>25720322

>mfw shows Moon legendary taking a bath

A T
L E A S T
I T ' S
S O M E T H I N G

>>25721010
Yup. Because it's actual unique, challenging content instead of shit I can do in any new game.

>But all the facilities were basically reskins of eachother.

No they're not. Play the game.

>>25721025
I'm sorry.

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>>25721019
>>25721033
>inb4 pretending to be retarded

ITT

Casuals actually thinking that the Battle Frontier is better than the Battle Mansion

The only facility of value lost was the Battle Factory Tbh.

>>25720969
>I was just planning to disappoint the shit out of everyone!

Yeah no, you're not getting another $40 from me, you hack.

>>25720989
Well, if SunMoon -is- gen6.5 it would make sense that it adds less than most games, wouldn't it?
Not saying that it is Gen6.5, but if it is, it would be acceptable

>>25721033
Oh shit I forgot I agreed to that definition when I signed my pokemon fanclub contract.

Post game refers to the remaining longevity of the game after you have finished the main stuff. XY have a few cute features and sidequests that can prolong the game for a bit, but is ultimately overshadowed by the amount of content and gameplay mechanics ORAS has to offer.

>>25721051
>Damage controlling this hard
sorry kid

>>25721058
yes I agree.

>>25721039
Have played Emerald over and over since it's release. They are reskins of eachother just with hax incorporated in different ways. Only good facility was Battle Factory and that is a Fact

Thanks to everybody in here, I just realized something.

The Pokemon fandom is basically the Sonic fandom, but with games that haven't been so absolutely massive in polarization of quality.

We are the Sonics of Nintendo.

>>25721060
>Oh shit I forgot I agreed to that definition when I signed my pokemon fanclub contract.

holy shit you really are being this stupid

post game is new content that has opened up after finishing the game, that shit ain't something pokefags made up, it's the actual meaning of post-game

hell, even with your definition you ignore what XY even does, but I'll ignore that in favor of laughing at you because you are really digging that hole deep

Hey guys, according to this guy healing in pokecenters are post-game content!

>>25721081
>Hey guys, according to this guy healing in pokecenters are post-game content!

But they are.

Still waiting on source for proof that we even know who director is

Ohmori is the guy that introduce chipmunk face to the character art, right?

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>>25720322
post yfw the first TV aired footage is the direct trailer again

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>>25721086

>>25721086
Hardly even qualifies as content, but you're obviously b8ing at this point so >>25721046

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>Yfw back to 2D

>>25721079
Nah, this happens with all long running popular video games.

>>25721095
That's been aired on TV already.

>>25721060
Contests are not post game if I can have them all finished before finishing the game.

>It has been confirmed that in the episode of Gathering at the Pokémon House, the variety show that airs in Japan every Sunday, that airs on April 3rd, series Director Junichi Masuda will be on, alongside battle director Shigeki Morimoto and Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire game director Shigeru Ohmori and will talk about the new games, presumably Pokémon Sun & Moon and will feature the first TV aired footage.
>Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire game director Shigeru Ohmori
Stop shitting yourself, faggots. All it says is that Shigeru Ohmori will be there to talk about the games, and he directed ORAS. There is literally nothing saying he will direct these games.

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>>25721086

by the way it's not the episode later, but next next week

>>25721081
Let's do this: pick whatever definition of "post game" you want and prove to us all by listing both game's post-game features that XY comes even close to ORAS. I'll wait.

No, you don't get to ignore stuff because you "don't care and it's shit!".

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>>25720594
>>25720696
>>25720840
>>25720764

Fuck you, you're not getting rid of my new bro.

>>25721119
Yeah, it says that in the OP, nigger.

>>25720831
Nah, all of those are super valid, but this is off base, there's tonnes of places to train. I find it harder to train in X and Y

>>25720862
except >>25720812

>>25720838
A region not capitalizing off the battle feature it created is lame. But fucking over Tate and Liza is criminal

>>25720904
Mirage Spots and Legendaries are the same, and arent post game.

Actually, EVERYTHING there isnt post game except Maison and Delta.

Catching Legendaries should never be used as a defense

>>25720969
Huh, that actually sounds like practically a confirmation....

>>25721010
>But all the facilities were basically reskins of eachother

literally wrong

>>25721131
You only became bros with Beedrill when it got a min-max mega?

>>25721113
Shhh, let the babies have their tantrum.

>>25721120
He already fucking did you mongoloid
>>25720922

>>25721120
I'm not the anon who said "Delta episode doesn't count", I am the anon who said "oh you're conveniently forgetting XY's stuff and even use an example from ORAS that's in XY"

XY has friend safari, maison, three more legendaries, a radar, mega stone searching, looker quest

>>25721140

I always liked Beedrill, but there were usually so many other fun bugs to use as the Gens went on that I barely ever had him in my party.

>>25721060
PokeStar Studios can be considered post-game because new movies open up after the game ends.

Contests cant be considered post-game because nothing new was added post game.

Easy shit

>>25721147
>among other things
what a great and conclusive list

>>25721153
And what does ORAS have?

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>Gen 6 fags devouring their own tail over which underwhelming posting was "better"

>>25721170
maison and delta

>>25720886
The only alternate timelines are that Alpha Sapphire and Omega Ruby are both canon.

>>25720886
stop

>>25721171
Seriously, all of gen 6 was a mistake

I hope gen 7 is better but the fact that mobile gaming is even bigger and we're still on the 3DS could mean it might get even worse.

At least we'll get new trainer porn though.

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It..it sure is a nice weather today...

>>25721208
>mobile gaming was a mistake
FTFY

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>>25721209
Yep.

in b4 mobile poster

>>25721208
They had two full years to work on this, so now nobody can say it's rushed

I'm starting to think Gen 6 was just a stop gap till they could have another new gen ready at the anniversary

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>mfw sun/moon are gsc sequels

>>25721238
It was probably more a test ground for the 3D leap.

So are we going to get starters? Or legendaries?

I like how it took less than 30 replies to turn this thread into yet another ORAS hating shitshow

>>25721265
blame ohmori for being shit

>>25721257
Most likely just general game footage.

>>25721208
>Seriously, all of gen 6 was a mistake
It gave us new Pokemon, characters, and a region. Regardless of if people aren't fond of the story itself and aspects of the gameplay, these three factors are never a mistake.

>>25721265
Why would you come to expect anything else from /vp/ tards who parrot the loudest meme opinions without fact checking?

>>25721253
might be good we get that means we get Kanto and Johto

>>25721295
I dunno, but I saw an orasfag who doesn't know what a postgame is, and upon actually googling postgame of ORAS vs XY, ORAS had little new content as it relied so much on Delta and mirage spots

>>25721295
>without fact checking?

But even with fact checking you can conclude ORAS is shit.

Can you guys calm down and look at what shigeru directing could mean? ORAS was rushed because they were focusing on sun and moon! SM will be better. ORAS had all the plot and events already for them, no need to plan shit but just a cosmetic upgrade. SM will be brand new and come with a new story and new mons, so their energy has been on this new game.

>>25721285
He directed one pair of games in his entire career at Game Freak, and said games were remakes.

Also, he might not be the actual director for S/M, and simply called 'Game Director' because he did direct a game.

>>25721315
How can you even begin calling ORAS rushed when XY has gaping holes of unfinished content in it? Both games were pieces of shit but whether or not Ohmori was appointed as lead designer is completely irrelevant to the equation.

>>25721295
>opinions I don't like are memes

I'm so glad GF decided to dump this Gen without resolving anything because it couldn't have happened to a more deserving section of the fanbase.

>>25721295
I want the "using meme as an adjective" meme to stop

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>>25721315
This is no place for your logic and common sense, mofo! This is for stir crazy conspiracy theories and flat-earthers.

>>25721335
I can excuse XY for being new and them trying out new stuff. ORAS though...

>>25721315
How can we trust him when he basically had everything done for him for ORAS and yet still managed to drop the ball?

>>25721292
What do you mean by general? They will reveal the titles only? What about April's CoroCoro?

>>25721335 see
>>25721353

>>25721370
Because he was working on sun and moon more intensely then oras. If that's his first game that he gets to make, and not a remake, with his own original ideas he would favor sm!

>>25721348
may the lizard people guide shigeru

I'm expecting a reveal of the cover legendaries soon and then this "footage" is just going to be a cutscene or something

>>25721335
People tend to forgive the first games of the generation for being light on post-game content. ORAS had no excuse however, especially being a remake of a generation that introduced one of the most beloved post game features of all time.

>>25721315
The fact that ORAS already had its basic structure laid but still turned out the way it did is what makes it so pathetic. Imagine how people would've reacted to HGSS if Kanto got replaced by a minature model of Pallet Town with a message board saying "eh, maybe in two years"

>>25720731
>Emerald
>not better than ORAS

Enjoy your zinnia i guess

>>25721391
What I mean is that it could be just some game footage of the protagonists walking around. Possibly a look at the Pokemon center, and a few other things.

Simply a sneak peek. I doubt they'd do anything else substantial, and we'd have to wait until CoroCoro to get an actual look at the potential legendaries.

>>25721414
>replying to b8

>>25721399
But XY has literal unfinished content in it that makes it very obvious it was a rushed product - a train station leading nowhere, unused powerhouses in the desert, glaring plot holes such as Lysandre receiving Clemonts Doc Ock arms among other things.

ORAS is light on content and subpar compared to Emerald but doesn't have any loose threads.

>>25721397
>25721335 see >25721353
Well aren't you a smart one. He should look at a reply to his own post. Who'd have guessed.

>>25721444
Wow, just like BW's stuff, or even DP's Giratina's existence! And apparently the rest of XY's existence (being a new game) doesn't matter at all vs. a remake!

Are ORASfags really like this, or are they just shitposters trying to be ironic?

>>25720906
Yes Master! PLZ!

>>25721430
But they need to leak CoroCoro's news. So most likely they have prepared and recorded this show to cover April's issue. If the main heroes are going to be in this, so we won't get legendaries in the CoroCoro either.

>>25721292
To be fair, hardly any of the pokemon designs were good and the characters mostly sucked

>>25720910
It usually leaks 7th-12th

>>25721516
>hardly any of the pokemon designs were good
now this is shitposting

>>25721482
We were talking about the games having evidence of being rushed. We were not talking about whether a game being rushed is excusable because it's the first of a generation (I don't think it is) or because it has other unrelated content to offer.

A game having less content than your personal expectations does not imply it was rushed.
A game having less content than the game it was remaking does not imply it was rushed.
A game having unused content and visible loose threads, however, does imply it was rushed.

Next time, try actually responding to the thing people are talking about instead of going full out on that fresh pair of goalposts you just fantasized together.

>>25721516
>Muh genwun.
>muh deep character development.
Tierno and Trevor sucked really hard as characters tho, why did they even get a fucking medal they did absolutely nothing.

>>25721567
Those are hooks for the third version they've been always doing anon.

>A game having less content than the game it was remaking does not imply it was rushed.

uh yes it does

you're the one not only making goalposts, but also fabricated definitions

you're probably that orasfag earlier complaining about postgame I take it?

>>25720558
>No Battle Frontier yet again
God DAMN it.

>Game Freak finally makes it easier to create perfect 31 IV Pokemon
>They remove the perfect place to take advantage of that in in the same generation
Ayy fucking lmao.

>>25721308
Not to mention an ORASfag that says you can get Soar before you get Fly.

>>25721567
>A game having less content than the game it was remaking does not imply it was rushed.

This is the most retarded statement in this entire thread.

>>25721582
In what way does the lack of your precious Battle Frontier imply it was rushed? Especially considering Masuda outright said they skipped it not because of time constraints but because they thought their ADD target audience wouldn't give a shit and didn't want to bother?

>>25721670
I didn't mention BF anon, I was refuting your point

>>25721682
But aside from BF, what is ORAS missing from RSE? And if something is missing, does its absence strongly imply it was because the game was rushed and not because of other business decisions?

>>25721701
yes it is part of implications

will we get an anime trailer like the incredible one for BW2?

I hope so

>Video starts playing
>Black screen fading to an image of a sun and moon
>Game's theme plays
>Shows some anime-like scenes
>Trainers are shown running through town
>Screen flashes white, fades to an orange/blue screen with three silhouettes and a release date

>>25721567
>A game having less content than the game it was remaking does not imply it was rushed.
Good thing that isn't true anyway.

>>25721721
what parts are missing and why does it being missing imply a rushjob?

>>25721750
>>25721701
Berry Blending minigame

Game Corner not replaced by any other facility (HGSS had Voltorb Flip)

Classic Safari Zone (not because of the player feedback but because GF was too lazy to animate the characters throwing a bait/stone at wild Pokemon)

And that's just from the top of my head.

>>25721750
BF for one thing.

Also the "it's for kids" doesn't make an excuse since Maison still exists. That reasoning would have made more sense if they didn't leave anything at all.

>>25720926
>>25720949
Maximum shitposting.

>>25720322
>Next week
HOLD ME. HOOOOLD MEEEE.

>>25720391
kikerudez please go away.

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>>25720990
>Shows character moving around in bushes
>Everyone is fucking "S-SU-SUGOI"ing over the music so you can't hear shit
>a wild battle is about to start
>"OOOOOOHHHH SUGOI"
>footage cuts off
I'm prepared for the worse

>>25722004
Didn't they do exactly that for XY?

>>25722004
Hai... hai, hai. Hai. Die Joe Boo?

>>25721444
XY's development was three years, yes, the game was shit but it wasn't because it didn't have enough time

>>25722004
Most likely that's not going to happen since they want to cover the next issue of Corocoro. Or not.

>>25720969
>IT ALL COMES TOGETHER

>>25720812
>emerald
>Emerald
>Gym leader rematches like in Emerald

I'm sorry, I must be missing something, but are you fucking daft? It's a remake of Ruby and Sapphire, not Emerald you dumb twat.

Did people really dislike ORAS?

I played Alpha Sapphire first, and went back and played Y, but I never ended up beating the Elite Four. In my opinion, the characters were lifeless, the environments were filled with nothing, the backstory was better than the story you actually played through, and the soundtrack isn't really all that amazing. Despite the addition of fairy type and mega evolution, nothing really stood out in contrast to ORAS. But that's super hard to gauge, because ORAS already had a region to base everything off of, and seemed like a natural extension of a game that was already pretty good. Mostly all they had to do was "add" or "recreate" and not actually "create." That worked out to their advantage, I think.

What I hope for the future is that Shigeru Ohmori learned from RSE and fan feedback what makes a good Pokemon game.

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>>25722113
>Did people really dislike ORAS?

Where have you been for the last three years?

>>25721810
I remember a lot of people defending the removal of Berry Blending because they didn't like it. That pissed me off, couldn't they have put in an option to skip doing the blending instead of completely removing a minigame that was introduced in the original games?

>>25722095
I'll take "What is HGSS?" for 500, Alex.

>>25722095
The same way HG/SS was a remake of G/S but still managed to fit in all of Crystal's content + extras AND add Gym Leader rematches.

>>25722143
Nintendo fans cannot ignore optional content. If they do not like it, they will demand it to be removed or cheer when it is removed.

Just look at other recent games.

>>25722113
I absolutely disliked it. It's the only Pokemon main game I've ever played and put down after a week. Since the series started I've played the games for months on end after launch but ORAS turned me off the franchise for a good year, only to be bought back in by the anime of all things late last year.

>>25722154
>>25722159
And note that XY wasn't even a third version or sequel but still let you fight the Gym Leaders more than once

>>25722182
when?

>>25722195
Battle Chateau

>>25722195
Battle Chateau. If you rank high enough, Gym Leaders will start visiting.

>>25720558
Serebii says ORAS game director retard, not Sun/Moon game director

>>25720322
Im not excited at all at least atm which is weird.

Oh well maybe the actual trailer will make me hyped about it.

>>25722124
Well, people always say that kind of thing, but I find it really weird that a board dedicated to pokémon hates a pokémon game so much.

>>25722239
Gen 6 in general is the first time I've disliked a group of mainline games this much

>>25721157
>I always liked Beedrill,
then you should hate this non-canon evolution designed by someone that didn't design the beedrill line

>>25722258
>it's only canon if i like it

>>25722270
That's not what I said, stop strawmanning.

>>25722277
You calling a mega non-canon is exactly what you were saying.

>>25722294
Idiot

>>25722258
>non-canon
Megas are canon
Get over yourself babby

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>>25722004
>It's just the box mons going WOW IT'S FUCKING NOTHING
>the whole crowd goes batshit crazy with SUGOI

>>25720322
>>25720558
SEREBII'S DIRECT QUOTE:
>...series Director Junichi Masuda will be on, alongside battle director Shigeki Morimoto and Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire game director Shigeru Ohmori
Shigeru Ohmori haters go home, all he says is that those from x jobs will be on, not confirming that Ohmori is Sun/Moon's game director

>>25722344
>Goodra is canon

>>25721701
>>25721750

>no frontier
>no gym leader rematches
>less trainers than Emerald, and a layout that takes out half the double battles
>lower framerate
>lower gym leader levels than Emerald, Tate and Liza only have two pokemon

>>25722095
Someone said the games were better than Emerald in every way. Your post is literally saying it's a remake of RA and is thus, less good than Emerald. Thanks.

>>25722367
>Goodra is canon
Yes, Goodra is in fact canon, and?
Your autistic train of thought isn't something that other people will understand unless you use your words and explain your point.

>>25722396
>>>25722306

>>25722416
Apparently you didn't read it the first time.
Your autistic train of thought isn't something that other people will understand unless you use your words and explain your point.

>>25722568
>>>25722416

>>25722568
Third time's the charm?
I've heard autistic people like repetition, so maybe if I keep saying it you'll eventually be able to understand. I've dealt with a fair number of people with autism and patience is always important when dealing with them since they can be a little slow to grasp social and conversational ideas. So don't worry, I don't think badly of you.

Your autistic train of thought isn't something that other people will understand unless you use your words and explain your point.

>>25720421
Honestly, seeing as this is a new generation, they could show us 10 seconds of a battle and I'd be satisfied. I just wanna see how things have changed.

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>>25722794
>seeing as this is a new generation,

>>25722810
Jesus christ I hate you people.

>>25720322
Finally.

>>25720594
Please let this happen. I will suck a hundred cocks for that to happen.

>>25722649
Are you talking to yourself lol

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>>25720421
Literally this

I was almost 99% sure sm was happening but I doubted they would show anything game related. I bet they're gonna give the most trivial information possible just to keep us waiting. I wouldn't be surprised if the only thing they disclose is the release date

>mfw this happens and everyone loses their fucking heads because "muh info"

Cool