Can we all agree on this?

yea

>>25719835
What's the difference between 1 and 2

>>25719835
Nope.

>>25719855
Gen 1 is literally my mom's cow.

Gen 2 is a baby form of gen 1.

>>25719861
Ah I see

Okay yeh pretty much

>>25719835
Swap 4 and 5
The swap 1 and 4 changing the eyes to angry eyes and the cow to a cartoon version of 3

>>25719835
what made you think what you meant was clear by the image alone...

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fixed

Gen 1 should have angry eyes.

Give gen 1 Rhydon's head

No, we can't
But i do like the idea of comparing the gens to a single animal in a number of different ways

Why don't we do that instead?

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>Its another "Genwunners display shocking amounts of hypocrisy and autism" episode

>>25719835
Show me an example of pokemon that represent this logic in the game.

>Gen 5 is a cheeseburger with eyes because of Vanilluxe
By that logic, Gen 1 would also be a cheeseburger with eyes because of Voltorb, Muk, Exeggcute, Ditto, etc.

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>>25719896
fix fixed

>>25719835
>theres an ice cream pokemon
>people still cry about it
lol
>>25719944
This is the most accurate one yet

>>25719939
>Simple designs vs over designed crap
>It's the same because I say so.

>>25719835
Gen V fucked up pokemon so much that all future generations feel like a hollow caricature of the golden four?

Yes, definitely.

>>25719939
Gen 1 designs are much more simple (to the point where a lot of them just look like regular animals). The only thing OP should have done is put some triangle eyes on the gen 1 cow.

>>25719980
>Vanilluxe is overdesigned because I say so
>b-but those pokemon are okay because it's gen 1

>>25719980
genwunner detected

>>25719835
>Gen 1 pokemon are realistic and Gen 6 pokemon aren't b-because they're new!
lol

>all gen 5 pokemon designs are equal to Vanillite
lol

>>25719939
Cross off the "but Exeggcute, Voltorb and Grimer!" square, bingo checker

>>25719993
>voltorb is underdesigned because I say so
>b-but those pokemon are okay because it's gen 5

>>25719980
They aren't necessarily overdesigned. Just shittily designed.

>>25720010
The image doesn't say that gen 1 is the best. It says that gen 1 is the least designed.

Not everyone is out to get you and your precious gen 5.

>>25720013
>People are allowed to constantly re-use Vanilluxe as a reason for Gen 5 being the worst gen, but bringing up one of the dozens of "it's a shape, but with eyes" pokemon in Gen 1 is bad

>>25720016
Voltorb is a pokeball with eyes. You can say it's a well designed pokemon, fine, that's your opinion. But saying it isn't an extremely simple design is delusional.

>>25720032
Klink is a gear with eyes. Vanillite is an ice-cream with eyes. It's not like gen 5 has no underdesigned Pokemon.

>>25720023
If 5 is represented by a hamburger with eyes then so should 1. they both have around the same amount of object-based Pokemon. Not that object-based Pokemon are a bad thing, at all.

>OP posts image
>Compares designs across generations without condemning any of them
>Unovabortion's persecution complex kicks in with full force
>They ruin the thread

Every time. Can these kids get of the fucking board? Maybe it's fitting that the worst gen has the worst fans.

>>25720048
Klink is a pair of gears that adds onto itself when it evolves (in a way other than "take the first evolution and multiply it by three").

Vanillite is an icicle covered in snow.

Voltorb is a pokeball with eyes that flips its colors and adds a smile when it evolves.

I'm not saying Klink or Vanillite are perfect, but people need to stop using them for why "new pokemon designs are all terrible!"

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>>25720067
Here's your reply, friend.

>>25720050
Gen 1: Voltorb, Electrode, Magnemite, Magneton (Exeggcute is a grey area)

Gen 5: Vanillite, Vanillish, Vanilluxe, Klink, Klang, Klinklang, Litwick, Lampent, Chandelure (Ferroseed, Yamask and Cofagrigus are grey areas)

I'm not saying object Pokemon are bad, I quite like Chandelure. But gen 5 has almost twice as many object Pokemon.

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>>25719835
Can we all agree on this?

You niggas ain't got shit on Gen 3 #HoennBaby

>hurr all gen 4 designs are Lucario and Garchomp
Gen 4 should be an evo of the Gen 1 cow.

>>25720074
The thing is people who defend gen 5 always say "magneton is just three magnemites stuck together", even though Klinklang is pretty much just the same Pokemon with gears attached.

Both sides of the argument are blinded by fanboyism.

>>25720081
Well, with Grimer and Muk they are almost with the same mons, or its in that grey area too?

>>25720032
Voltorb is a good design because it is based on the JRPG mimic archetype. It is a good mimic because it looks almost exactly like what it is mimicking. Amoongus is a bad design because it tries to do the same thing but looks nothing like a pokeball.

Vanilluxe is just a shitty ice cream cone. You don't think people would bring it up so often if it wasn't so widely hateable fo you? Of course you don't, because you're a contrarian and that makes you so much smarter than everybody else.

>>25720083
How is OP inciting a gen war? He's making fun of every gen equally.

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I tried

>>25720091
Yes, an overdesigned one

>>25720094
I guess you could add those too, although you'd also have to add Trubbish and Garbodor to the gen 5 list.

>>25720102
fair enough.

>>25720096
Well, the gen 1 and gen 5 fags are killing themselves thanks to this image, so...

>>25720115
Then the mods should ban the gunwunners and unovabortions since they ruin the fun for everyone.

Although obviously that will never happen because /vp/ has no moderation.

>>25720081
For Gen 1, you forgot to include Ditto, Grimer, Muk, Ghastly, Diglett, Dugtrio, and Tangela. Also, Exeggcute is not a grey area. Exeggcute are eggs with eyes.

I'll give you the Klink line for Gen 5, and even Litwick, but Lampent and Chandelure have more to them than "object with eyes". Oil lamps don't generally float or have arms. Same with Chandeliers.

How the fuck are Yamask and Cofagrigus items with eyes at all? Or Ferroseed, for that matter? What item in real life is a small steel ball covered in spikes?

>>25720102
>Trubbish and Garbodor are equal to literally purple blobs with faces
How? At all? They're living piles of trash, but they have infinitely more thought put into them than "it's a blob of poison because it's a poison type".

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>>25720081
>forgetting my moms naval mine

>>25719884
Not OP, and it was very clear to me. Maybe you're retarded.

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>>25719835
Gen 5's one wouldn't be an -actual- burger. It would probably be slabs of earth on top of each other
>Smooth-ish half boulder on top
>slate
>sandstone
>moss
>quartz
>other half of boulder
When it uses special/status attacks and opens up, you'd see a fossil in the sandstone section. Its eyes would also be cracks with gold inside rather than the triangular white gen-1 eyes.

>>25719901
>>25719911
both of these
Gen 1 cow should also have the spikes, not just gen 4. Did OP forget about the Nidos, Magmar and Rhydon?

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>>25720138
What pokemon is anything like what you just described

>>25720081
>Exeggcute
>grey areas
Gen 1 has three object lines (when including my mom's eggs); Gen 5 has three as well.

>>25720132
I wasn't listing "blobs with eyes", I was listing object Pokemon. Ditto is a stem cell, although it could be considered grey area. Tangela is made of vines (which are natural). Eggs are actually things that occur in nature, which is why it was grey area.

You need to stop with the victim complex.

>>25719992
How the fuck are Rhyhorn, Rhydon, Kangaskhan, Nidoking, Magmar, Jynx, Blastoise, and Kadabra simple designs?

>>25720096
>Gen 4 is the same as Gen 1 with random details
>Gen 5 is a cheeseburger with eyes
>Gen 6 is a clipart image of a cow
>"equal"
Nah. OP knew what he was doing.

>>25720092
Klinklang isn't 3 Klinks, though. Each gear is new, along with the gemstone and spiked ring. Its upgrading itself with new parts

Magneton is -LITERALLY- three Magnemites

>>25719933
it looks more like a pic made by a hoennfag though

>>25720149

He's trying to say that, if they were to make a "Burger" Pokemon, it would be like how Vanillite is an "Ice Cream" Pokemon

Vanillite is a living icicle covered in snow that is supposed to coincidentally look like an ice cream cone, so a Burger Pokemon would be like what that guy described

>>25720098
This feels better. I would've made gen 4 some kind of Tenrec, though

>>25720023
>No one has it in for Gen 5 anymore
>>25719985
>Actually believes Gen 5 killed Pokmon

If faggots like the 2nd one could kill themselves, the world would be a much better place

>>25720189
What this guy said, yeah.

>>25720189
Fair point.

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>It's a genwar thread
>Unovabortions bring up the well designed Gen 1 equivalents of badly designed Gen 5 pokemon instead of badly designed Gen 1 pokemon
>Reinforcing the idea to everyone that not only are Unova pokemon ripoffs of older ones, but also that they are indeed badly designed in comparison.

>>25719835
Is this about the Pikachus of each game?

1: pikachu
2: pichu
3: plusle/minun
4: pachirisu (it has 3 little spikes on it's tail, so that pic is a bit exaggerated)
How is Emolga a hamburger version and Dedenne a cartoon version of Pikachu though?

>>25720092
>even though Klinklang is pretty much the same pokemon with gears attached
Have you seen Klinklang? Ever?
If what you said was true, Klinklang would just be six identical gears. Klinklang, unlike Magnemite, adds onto itself with new gears, making a new pokemon, rather than being the same pokemon added onto itself.

I like Gen 5
>yfw its my favorite Gen

but I have to agree with those that say we should stop attacking other Gens. I realize that going back and saying "w-well the old Gens had badly designed Pokemon too!" isn't as a great an argument anymore. I'd rather convince those that for instance, Gen 5's Pokemon isn't bad by the majority, but by the exception (Vanniluxe). To the contrary, I find 80% of the Gen 5 Dex ranging from decent to good in terms of design...Just like any other Generation.

>>25720098
Wouldn't Gen 4 be the porcupine?

>>25720283
I think, the naked mole rat is fitting to look like bidoof.

>>25720165
Spikes exist in real life, look at porcupines or dinosaurs. And all of those have very simple colour schemes.

>>25720180
>gen 1 is an unoriginal cow
>gen 2 is an unoriginal baby pokemon
>gen 3 has two copies of the same pokemon with different colour schemes, pushing the double battle gimmick

>>25719835
Yes

>>25720371
Yeah, 3 and 4 should be swapped.

>>25720187
Magnemite's whole theme is magnetism. While the design may be lazy, it fits in with its theme well. It's the same story with Klink, although that really didn't need to be a three-stage evolution. Klink and Klinklang would have been fine as a two-stage evolution.

I thought Gen 5 was a cheeseburger with eyes because AMERICA.

>>25719835
Why is Gen 6 clipart?

>>25720477
A lot of gen 6 Pokemon have massive heads

>>25719835
>Gen 5
So if something looks like food, that makes it food?

>not liking everything equally
I'll never understand you people

>>25720499
Johtoddlers, Hoennbabies, Sinnoh fetuses and Kalosperm are all fine with this. It's just genwunners and unovabortions arguing in every single gen war.

>>25720514
Doesn't help that every single genwunner makes sure to shitpost about gen 5 in every thread no matter the subject, it's almost like it's their purpose in life.

>>25720423
>While the design may be lazy,
Well there we go.
>it fits in with its theme well
That sentence is the exact reason maybe genwunners on here hate gen 2 and beyond; they claim that they'd rather good designs than interesting concepts.
The magnetism thing with Magneton wouldn't be so bad if perhaps Magnemite actually had a great design to begin with. And having only three of them for Magneton makes it too obvious that its just "we added more". Maybe if it was a cluster of them, or even 3 main bodies but lots of magnets. Maybe even loose metal scraps they picked up from the area. ANYTHING other than "3 of the same previous pokemon kind of stuck together".

And Klinklang looks way better that Klang, though I like all 3. Klinklang feels more like a final upgrade than Klang, like with fellow 3rd stagers Machamp and Seismitoad. The spiked ring seemingly out of nowhere helps makes the line more than just "more gears".

>>25720252
>not only are Unova pokemon ripoffs of older ones, but also that they are indeed badly designed in comparison.

This is my biggest gripe with Gen V.

I generally don't have a problem with any gen's Pokemon, but Gen V's were way too predictable when the new Pokemon were unveiled - you could tell exactly which Gen I Pokemon they tried 'imitating'. Looking back in retrospect today in the context of 749 Pokemon there's just a weird chunk where the Pokemon were suddenly really unimaginative redesigns of Gen I concepts.

GameFreak is never going to stop giving attention to the original 151, so years down the line there will be kids who are starting on Gen VIII that look back at all the past Pokemon and see Gen V as second-rate copies of the Gen I Pokemon that will be celebrated in Pokemon's 25th and 30th Anniversary.

>>25720555
And every Unovabortion constantly brings up "muh voltorb" everytime someone doesn't like Vanilluxe. Both fanbases are cancerous.

>>25720273
This. Everyone should just forget about muh icecreams and look at the good Pokemon.

>>25720132
Exeggcute are psychically linked seeds that look like eggs. I'd say yes they don't belong in the grey area, because they aren't objects at all. Exeggcute and Exeggcutor are actually some of the most well developed pokemon conceptually. They belong nowhere near discussion of icicles that want to look like ice cream.

Also pretty much all the pokemon you mentioned for Gen 1 are not objects.

gen 6 certainly has some more realistic designs than similar ones from earlier gens,such as Dragalge/Kingdra or Politoad/Greninja. now that I think about it a lot of gen6 designs are like that in general,make the cow a normal one for 6

Why do you retards still have gen wars when you know that you will never convince the other side? No one's going to say "oh, you're right" or "oh, I changed my mind because of this", SO WHY DO YOU DO IT?

>>25720650
Genwunners don't exist outside of facebook, they're probably just (You)baiting. Unovabortions have autism, so they enjoy repeating the same arguments over and over again.

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gen 1: literally angry animals

gen 2: rubber toys

gen 3: pretty much gen 2,5

gen 4: wild monsters with odd coloring

gen 5: just a big gen 1 homage

gen 6: pretty chill designs

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Gen I designs were like realistic drawings of bugs and other animals because the game hadn't been made and was just a depiction of Satoshi Tajiri's childhood bug collecting habit.

Gen 2 wasn't much different because it was assumed it would be the last game.

Gen 3 were more colourful to take advantage of the amazing graphical capabilities of the GBA.

Gen 4 was heavy on legendaries and 3rd stage, overdesigned Pokemon because Wi-Fi had been added and there needed to be incentive to get people trading and downloading event Pokemon.

Gen 5 was just a reimagination of Gen I for the reboot but the designs were varied because there were 17 different designers on board, many working on their first Pokemon game and so the result wasn't as cohesive as previous gens.

Gen 6 Pokemon have more human-like facial features and are generally more animate in terms of their overall design because they were created with 3D models and Pokemon Amie in mind.

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cow/cow-like pokemon in all generations

>>25720967
I actually thought that for years now
cheers

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>>25719835

>>25720081
>Ferroseed
>grey area
No it's not you fucking retard. It's an organism, not an object.

>>25720165
Their minimal color palettes balance it out.

>>25721089
I like you, anon

>>25719835
gen 2 would be a white blob in the shape of a cow

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It always boils down to the same points on why which gen is the worst.

>>25720675
>Unovabortions have autism, so they enjoy repeating the same arguments over and over again.
Unovabortions don't repeat the same argument. People who shit on gen 5 use the same argument about muh ice cream and muh garbage, which has recently transcended into muh shit designs rather than picking on two lines. Now they're finally trying to use new arguments like shit story, which was very well liked until it suddenly became a gen 5 hating excuse, and everyone just copy paste each others reasons to shit on Unova. You must be one of those shitters. Like >>25720650 said, it's stupid to have genwars because nobody is going to change their minds.

>>25720180
everything that warrants derision is made fun of equally he means

>>25721097
All their lines, spikes and segments don't, though. Thats what I was talking about.
There are other ways to be over-designed than too many colours.

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Did somebody say Gen2?

>>25720188
how?

>>25721216

>Eggs
But they're seeds

>>25721089

Scientific evidence that dinosaurs had feathers and not scales?

>>25719870
Gen IV's design style was clearly one that included a lot of additional details like spikes and stripes. Gen V's was not.

>>25721059
>Gen 4

This is literally not true.

>>25721425
doesnt change the fact that they are supposed to look like eggs

>>25721059
Is Gen 4 Tauros supposed to look like a stand?

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>Odd numbered gen
Soft reboot. Most of the pokemon are just copies of Gen 1 mons.
>Even numbered gen
Soft sequel. Most of the pokemon are evolutions that we didn't want or need.

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>>25720067

>>25721425
Seeds with yolks?

>>25721577
>Gen 1 is the least interesting
This graph checks out.

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>>25721216
I know it's just a joke image but the Digimon comparison always annoys me

There are only a handful of Pokemon designs in the entire series that could pass as Digimon

>>25721608

Is the yellow "yolk" actually liquid, or is it just the "core" of the seed that happens to be yellow to go with the egg theme? Serious question, I don't know if this has ever been addressed.

>>25720584
>>25720252

Not every Gen. 5 Pokemon is a Gen.1 "ripoff"

>>25721577
Gen 2 should be Gen 1 as a chick.
Gen 5 should be a different genus of Gen 1.
Gen 6 should be a styrofoam ball covered in feathers.

Gen 3 and 4 are spot on though.

>>25719835
ajkashahahjahjah ooouuuuooh fuck yeah OP

>>25720138
I'd train the shit out of this

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>all this gen 6 hate
Can't wait for Sun/Moon to come out and /vp/ to be filled with anons who "liked it the whole time"

>>25720252
>gen 1's designs are good because they're gen 1
>gen 5's designs based on gen 1 mons are shit because it's gen 5
Gen 5 haters are worse than gen 5 fanboys

>>25721608

Seeds have cores

It states that they're seeds both in the Pokedex and in the TCG

Also, since when do trees hatch from eggs?

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>>25721626

Yeah, a Digimon would stand out like a sore thumb in the Pokemon universe. It takes more than spikes and stripes; you've gotta have pants and guns too.

>>25721703
There are already people here who have been liking it the whole time. I think it's pretty good.

>>25721077
Where's Gens 5 and 6

>>25721786
This was made before gen 5.

>>25721786
>>25721796
What would Gen 5/6 be

>>25721777
Yep, I like x/y too.

>>25721077
gen II and III best and gänster

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>>25721577
>implying

>>25720098
hello r᠎ato

>>25721847
>Gen 2
>implying

>>25721806
>Gen 5
A design that is similar to Gen 1 but taken in a unique direction
>Gen 6
Gen 2 but smaller and with a big head and teeny little stumps for feet.

>>25720095
>voltorb is good because it's a gen 1 mon that fits into an archetype
>but gen 5 mons that fit into archetypes are shit
Vanilluxe isn't even a god damn ice cream cone. It's a stalagtite covered in snow to resemble ice cream. It's a fucking snow monster.

>use the buzzword 'contrarian'
People bring up the vanilluxe line simply because it's the easiest line to use as a reason to hate gen 5 because it doesn't have similarities to anything in gen 1. When people use Trubbish/Garbodor as an excuse for 'shit designs' the same could be said about Grimer/Muk.

>>25721680
We need someone to draw it up

>>25720098
I would swap gen 3 and 4

>>25720587
And everyone who hates on gen 5 brings up 'muh trubbish' everytime they bitch about gen 5 designs, and they act like it was ok for gen 1 to have underdesigned mons because 'muh archetype' but it's not ok for gen 5 to have archetype mons simply because it's gen 5. Anyone who argues in genwars is fucking stupid. All gens have good and bad designs but /vp/ is filled with children who throw tantrums over anything and everything.

>>25719944
I don't understand Gen 5. Gen 5 pokemon had stripes?

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>>25721669
But Gen 6 is dark and edgy

>>25722190
>they act like it was ok for gen 1 to have underdesigned mons because 'muh archetype' but it's not ok for gen 5 to have archetype mons simply because it's gen 5

Doesn't that make logical sense though?

Gen 1 can afford to be an 'archetype' because it's the first, so not technically an archetype, but if Gen 5 is doing the same thing then that itself would be the issue - that it's doing nothing new but copying the old.

Gen 5 may be 'no different' from Gen 1, but that in itself is exactly the problem.

>>25720098
>gen 4 had the ugliest pokemon
yea pretty much

>>25721377
kekeke

>>25721377
TOP KEK

So jynx is from gen 5

>>25720187
Magnezone would like a word

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We can all agree on this though.
For sure.

>>25724541

>Gen 3 = Bullet?

I don't get it.

>>25721816
X/Y was pretty damn good imho

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>>25724577
I always thought Beldum was a bullet, but fair enough.
How about this.

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>>25719835

Nigger what the fuck

Gen 6 went back to Gen 1 level of detail. If anything your gen 6 is gen 3 or 5.

>>25724629

Nosepass is an Easter Island head.

>>25724541
gen 3 and 4 dont make sense dude.

>>25724712

he's talking about metagross and bronzong

>>25724712
yeah
it should be a moai and a balloon instead

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>>25721077

>>25725124
The Gen I and II ones are so accurate it hurts. Not sure I feel the same way about III and IV

>>25724731
no, the dreidel is supposed to be Baltoy.

>>25725151
Yeah, why is gen 4 so round? I can't immediately think of any round gen 4 Pokemon.

>>25721847
Man, Noctowl's chest plumage really stands out.
No volume, no shading, just two flat rows of three triangles.

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>>25725263

>>25725263
It's probably referencing how a lot of Gen IV Pokemon were just generally either fat, wide, or round.
Not necessarily a bad thing but

>Torterra
>Empoleon
>Bibarel
>Kricketune
>Rampardos
>Drifblim
>Purugly
>Hippowdon
>Abomasnow
>About 2/3rds of the new evolutions for previous gen Pokemon

If you guys hate pokemon so much then why do you play it?

>>25721847
>comparing each gen by bird
>posts Noctowl
Good job, anon.

>>25721847
>Gen 5 and 6 both ruined their birds on the third evo
Fucking why.

>>25725652
What's wrong? That's gen 2's bird.

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>>25725700
>owls
>birds

>>25725724
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owl
Literally the first three words

>>25725783
>Not knowing this meme

Lurk moar, newfag.

>>25722235
I don't get it either

>>25725783
>Wikipedia
>Reputable source

>>25721059
kek'd hard
it's actually true.
do more

>>25720584
It was a little in-your-face with the obvious surrogate Geodude/Zubat/Machop/Chansey/Magnemite/Hitmons but there's the other extreme with stuff like Golurk, Volcarona, Druddigon, Galvantula, I mean fuck Bisharp is make of two types that didn't exist then. What does Sigilyph correspond to?

>>25719835
Gen 2 cow needs pastel colors and tumorous blobs all over it.

>>25725823
allaboutbirds org/search/?q=Owls%20
>Cornell University Lab of Ornithology

>>25726081
>Doing this much research on a thing
>Not researching the thing instead

Moon is clouds, by the way.

>>25726081
Kill yourself, newfag.

>>25724651
I think that's supposed to be Baltoy

>>25726384
Baltoy isn't a dreidel either, it's a clay statue

>>25726520
>made of clay
>moves by spinning