There should be no reason for Gen 6.5 fags

>>25713266
GSC pretty much were gen 1.5 though

>>25713266
>only 2 more weeks until all the 6.5 fags get BTFO and commit mass suicide

Can't wait.

>>25713280
That would cause the count to change entirely, though, which would make it wrong anyway.

>>25713280
"Pretty much" does not equal "offically."
GSC were Gen II. Deal with it.

The best thing about having a birthday in mid April will be seeing 6.5 fags pretend they were just pretending or flip flop entirely and claim they were never 6.5 fags to begin with.

>>25713303
Nah. Gen 7 fags will get BTFO when they see screenshots that match the look of XY and ORAS.

>>25713280
Except they aren't and no one considers them to be

>>25713280
Yellow would have been 1.5

Crystal 2.5

Emerald/FRLG 3.5

Platinum/HGSS 4.5

BW2 5.5

ORAS are 6.5

SuMo are 7.
>>25713324
New region, new pokemon, new fucking generation. Looks like XYORAS is literally the dumbest thing to say its not Gen VII.

>>25713266
>still thinking gen7 is gonna happen
You literally cannot explain the Zygarde Formes or Floette-E without being gen6.5. What's gonna happen is:
>new region
>new pokemon (second half of kalos dex)
>still some references to X&Y in the storyline (AZ is probably going to be expanded further)

Thinking S&M is gen7 is pure idiocy at this point.

>>25713324
Gen 5 didn't look that much different from 4.

>>25713342
Anime exclusive.

Go back to putting dicks in your anus and mouth.

>>25713324
It doesn't matter though. I just showed how compatibility doesnt define a generation. Gen 2 looked a lot like Gen 1 just with colour. The looks do not define a generation either

>>25713303
>>25713324
Obviously they both will because clearly, the new region will be somewhere very south of Kalos, but will have some basis on Hawaii. This effectively combining both ideas into a hodgepodge.

In effect, nobody would really be right or wrong!

Though to be a bit honest, there is a bit more to things other than sharing a similar look

>>25713354
>i can't explain something, so I'll just say it's an anime exclusive!!!

literally kill yourself. they literally have datamined to games and found Floette-E, there is no way it could be an anime exclusive.

>>25713342
>New Region
>New Pokemon

So yeah... it is Gen7

Also, the anime is clearing up all this stuff

File: tumblr_msewjzUvOE1szslpso1_400.jpg (46KB, 400x534px) Image search: [Google]

46KB, 400x534px

>>25713354

>in xy files since release
>hurr duur amine only

Faggot

>>25713381
And we can still get an event for it.....

>>25713381
Giant Alakazam
Giant Gengar
Gaint Dragonite
Crystal Onix
Pink Butterfree
Talking Meowth
Venustoise
Armored Mewtwo
Ditto face transformations
Gastly transforms into a mongoose
Waterproof Rhydon

Let me boot up my games and find those. Oh wait.

>>25713400
Explanation above cum chugger.

>>25713433
None of those are in any game's files you nigger

>>25713456
Other than AZ Floette and Volcanion which are?

Oh right, none of them.

>>25713456
And? Who is to say Floette won't have an event? Could be an event in ORAS or Sun and Moon. Still doesnt mean it will have anything to do with the story of the games.
perhaps it will appear in a movie

File: 1458204438386.gif (2MB, 200x150px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 200x150px

>>25713280
By that logic, Black and White were 'Gen 4'

Autism is not allowed here kid

I think people are being way too clever for Gamefreak. Then again, they have the last laugh for leaving us to guess to start with. The thing is that either way, something about how releases are treated will be changed irrevocably. We won't be able to tell what the games after that are, either, and never again from that point forward. Just as planned. From the way people are acting, we may never solve this conundrum until the game itself is in our hands. They will push the agenda to the end, even faking the progression of the game as it is being revealed. I wouldn't be surprised if they play at making believe what others have is fake, even if it is real. What will become of your info then? Does it even matter? Of course it doesn't. You'll revive the dark days of nothing more than rumors and hearsay if you'd dare. You ARE those people aren't you? The pokegods, Bill's garden, the truck. You did it all, didn't you?

File: 1.png (4KB, 354x357px) Image search: [Google]

4KB, 354x357px

>>25713266
>you can't really have half a generation

File: 1433456621968.png (5KB, 601x695px) Image search: [Google]

5KB, 601x695px

>>25713590

>>25713346
Still looked different though.

>>25713590
>projecting this hard.

>>25713628
fuck off, if there's new Pokemon then it's a new generation

this entire argument comes down to retarded personal definitions of a fan term anyways

Nope. Mechanics decide generation. If SM has the same mechanic as XYORAS, same graphics as XYORAS, uses the same pentagon as XYORAS, it's gen 6. This is the best way to separate generations. ORAS isn't a new gen just for introducing new abilities/items/moves and neither will SM for having new Pokemon.

There's a REASON Zygarde has its signature moves programmed in XY and there are 2 pentagon slots left.

>>25713715
Except you're entirely wrong.

New Region
New Pokemon.
That is all you need to establish a new generation.

Fuck off with your new machanics bullshit bait. Here is your (you)

>>25713730
Except you're entirely wrong.

Same mechanics
Same compatibility
That is all you need to establish a same generation.

File: 1458608393319.gif (2MB, 400x225px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 400x225px

>>25713715
So a new generation cant carry over old mechanics from previous games? I always believed NEW mechanics and features, plus new Pokemon decide a generation because they're not compatible with other games in the series. Also I hope you realize that its GF's choice to implement those unused moves or not, or the pentagons for that matter. Zygarde is anime, tretta, shuffle,and picross exclusive. Period, end of conversation.

>>25713715
Pentagon slots have nothing to do with it.
Suppose they make a new game for the NX and they have a pentagon system. Does that mean they are Gen 6 games? Not all.
and of course they are going to look the same, they are on the same system. Black and white and DPPt looked pretty similar as well.

And I'm pretty sure that the crystal in the logos has something to do with a new mechanic that will be introduced. It's pretty obvious at this point

>>25713760
>I was proven wrong and can't come back with anything other than "no u!"

You must be at least 18 to post on this board.

>>25713760
Except you're entirely wrong. Compatibility means nothing. Gen 2 is not gen 1.5 yet they are still compatible

>>25713765
>So a new generation cant carry over old mechanics from previous games

Of course they can. But there are always new ones as well. Which make the mechanics different and force compatibility to be cut off.

>Zygarde is anime, tretta, shuffle,and picross exclusive
Nope. It'll be in the next gen 6 games too. Did it occur to you that there's a REASON they gave it significantly weaker stats compared to Xerneas and Yveltal exactly like they did with Kyurem?

File: 1450859773851.jpg (47KB, 720x540px) Image search: [Google]

47KB, 720x540px

What if it's neither?
What if it's an anniversary game like MHX?

By that logic are there actually people who consider dppt and bw2 the same generation? Goddamn.

If it's in a new region and has new starter pokemon, it's a new generation.

>>25713805
Lol what gen 6 games?

>XZ and YZ?
>X2 and Y2?
>inb4 but we're getting Gray!

>>25713805
Even if Zygarde is involved in the Sun and Moon story itself it's still a new Gen.
New Pokemon
New Region
New mechanics(The crystals have something to do with a new mechanic, just like the symbols in XY logos)
Limited compatibility (New Megas will mean that ORAS and XY wont be completely compatible)

>>25713802
Gen 2 can't battle with Gen 1. So nope.

>>25713793
I'm using similar logic as you. Blame yourself.

>>25713779
>Pentagon slots have nothing to do with it

Yes they do. There's a reason why XY and ORAS only have TWO more slots left that can show the pentagon. It's obviously meant for gen 6 specifically or they wouldn't have implemented it that way.

>DP looked the same as BW
No, the aesthetic of the two are very obviously different. BW has different overworld sprites, more than one overworld perspective, and the battle scene is WAY different. Even a casual can quickly distinguish them unless they're blind. If CoroCoro shows screenshots and the overworld characters look the same as gen 6, then it'll be REALLY obvious.

>There are new Pokemon, it's clearly a new fucking Generation

That'd be so predictable though.

>>25713855
The pentagon slots are for RBY virtual console you tremendous faggot. Holy shit.


Keep living in denial.

File: john-cena-omg-o.gif (2MB, 320x240px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 320x240px

>>25713870
Never thought about this tbqh

>>25713855
But Gen 2 can trade with Gen 1 so they are compatible.
ORAS can't battle with X and Y if they have any new Mega on their team but ORAS is not a new Generation

And no, there's no proof the Pentagon's are Gen 6 exclusive or will even be used. Could very well introduce a new game for a new system and use Pentagon slots.
Sun and Moon could add in more pentagon slots as well.
and okay, BW looked different, but Gen 2 looked almost identical to Gen 1 but just with colour...

>>25713906
>3 games
>2 pentagon slots

>>25713846
SM are the gen 6 games. Stop clinging to name patterns. They broke it with BW2 and they can break it again.

>>25713844
No. Try actually fucking reading the arguments.

>>25713870
Care to go in to more detail about that? Or just gonna spout more ad hominems?

>>25713862
>That'd be so predictable though

Well that's how its worked for every new generation

>>25713918
RB are identical and count as 1.
Y is the other.

Are you seriously this dumb as fuck?

>>25713932
99% sure that's not how it works, anon.

>>25713433
But here's the trick. I actually can boot up my game and find Volcanion. Sorry but he is in the files and i can access them. I even think SuMo is gen 7 i just want you to stop be a dumbass or whatever you're doing.

File: 1d2dc7e7cf675b00e6c0b9cb66bdb4f6.gif (939KB, 240x135px) Image search: [Google]

939KB, 240x135px

>>25713946
Whats the other 1%?

>>25713921
Except they aren't Gen 6 games.
if they introduce new Pokemon (This has been confirmed)
New mechanics (Likely the crystals in the logos have to do with a new mechanic)
Limited Compatibility (New Megas, you'd be retarded if you think they aren't adding any more, meaning these games are going to be limited in compatibility at the very least)

So really, no matter what your definition of a new Generation is, this is clearly a new Gen and you're either retarded or a troll or both.

File: New gen confirmation.png (156KB, 634x482px) Image search: [Google]

156KB, 634x482px

>>25713266
Can gen 6.5 faggots just commit mass suicide already? Fucking morons can't accept they're wrong even when the official pokemon twitter and website confirmed it's a new generation.

>inb4 it's not official because it isn't the japanese one!

eat shit

>>25713908
Gen 2 can't battle with Gen 1. ORAS CAN battle with XY. That's all there is to it. That's like saying gen 3 is compatible with gen 4 just because Pokemon can be brought from gen 3 from gen 4. It ms not full compatibility.

Again, the pentagon is limited to ONLY two slots. They wont add more because they would need to patch XY.

And gen 2 is still different looking from gen 1. Just look at the battle scene.

>>25713959
And where is Ash Greninja? How about Zygarde 10%? Perfect Zygarde?

>>25713966
Doubt of my own knowledge.

>>25713433

Good job proving that you're a retard, I guess.

>>25713970
>if they introduce new Pokemon (This has been confirmed)
Doesnt matter. The consequence is no different from new megas.

>Crystals
Yeah because the red and blue orbs in the ORAS logos were new mechanics too, right?

>>25713855
Screencapping this retard can't wait for you to get BTFO.

Sad part is you'll probably adjust your trash gen definition when gen 7 is confirmed so you can still call it gen 6.5.

>>25713477

>"AZ's Floette isnt anime exclusive, it's in the game"
>"Yeah but what about all these"
>"None of those are in the game files"
>"Exactly but AZ's Floette is so I'm right "

Jesus fuck, what a dumb nigger.

>>25713989

"Where's Mega Gallade? If it's the same Gen, why isn't he in X and Y's files??

CLEARLY AlphaSapphire and Omega Ruby are Gen 7!"

There are still 9 months to SM release, of you really think they cam't just make that event before the release you are fucking dumb and a delusional fag. SM will be a NEW generation because ORAS took the place of your beloved analtoy that Z is and the Zygarde game was cancelled after the ORAS flop. Plans can change you stupid closed minded piece of dogshit.

>>25714006
Who knows. They were important things in the previous ones. The DNA in XY stood for Mega Evolution, the things in OR/AS were actually the redesigned Red/Blue Orbs, which now cause Primal Reversion. What will the crystals do? One can only ponder, or if the crystals only represent something.

>>25714026
>>25714049

>The Azure Flute was in the game files.
>Clearly that is Gen 4.5

Jesus fuck, what a dumb nigger.

>>25713433
>hurrr one off episode bullshit equates to an ENTIRE arc of shit that also shows up in other Pokemon media
>those signature moves and weaker BSt must not mean anything either

You're a retard.

>>25713981
And? ORAS is limited in compatibility though too. You can only battle X and Y if you aren't using a new Mega. If yoy are, you can't
Just like GSC can trade with RBY, just not Pokemon
ORAS can't trade new Mega stones.
There are compatibility issues.

Again, they don't have to even use the pentagon slots in the first place, but they very well could patch X and Y.

OH MAN GEN 2 LOOKS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT
ORAS looks slightly different from X and Y
RSE looked slightly different than Fire Red leaf green. Not sure I see you're point.

>>25713456
>>25713959
>>25714004
>>25714070

You can stop samefagging. And opening up other browsers to try hide your samefagging still counts too, faggot.

>>25714006
Um yeah, primal reversions

>>25713266
Generations don't actually exist, this is all just some dumb concept created by dumb fans like you, and the reality is gamefreak is just doing whatever the fuck they want.

>>25714058
>ORAS FLOP
>Being this retarded

ORAS didn't flop at all and made tons of money

>>25714118
Gen 6 was the best gen, and only memeing redditors say otherwise.

So, ignore them

>>25713354
>anime exclusive
Zygarde 10% is in Pokemon Shuffle, so no.

>>25714109
Right, that's why it's even called the new Generation and they even show that they know that there are new Generations in the teaser when they start naming off all the games that began a new Generation

So um yeah....

>>25714143
>grasping at straws
Main game you fucking baby.

>>25714148
Why would they put anime only pokemon in the TCG? That just doesn't happen.

>>25714006
Generation has nothing to do with compatibility though. Generation is a fan-made term to describe sets of new Pokemon, and that's all it means. New Pokemon means new generation.
And before you say anything, no, megas don't count as new Pokemon.

File: 1454323672-06922000.jpg (56KB, 500x500px) Image search: [Google]

56KB, 500x500px

>>25714156
>Why would they put something in TCG if it wasn't real? They would never do that!

Wew

Here's the definition of a Pokemon generation from bulbapedia:
"A generation is a grouping of the Pokémon games that separates them based on the Pokémon they include."

So based on your retarded logic gen 2 is gen 1.5, gen 3 is gen 2.5, gen 4 is gen 3.5, gen 5 is gen 4.5 and gen 6 is gen 5. So SM aren't really gen 6.5 but gen 5.5

>>25714096
Primal reversion is just a pretty name for mega evolution and you know it faggot.

>>25713989
Hey this is actual guy you replied to. The other guy was someone else. I bet those are probably going to be in the next game be they 6.5 or 7. Actually scratch that im not so sure about Ash greninja but i have a feeling that SuMo will have Zygarde in it.

>>25714191
If gen 2 is gen 1.5, wouldn't that mean gen 3 is gen 2? Gen 4 would be gen 3, gen 5 would be 3.5 because it's on the same system, gen 6 would be gen 4, and sumo would be 4.5.

>>25714179
Inb4 someone says that there will be break evolution in sun and moon

>>25714195
Primal reversion function more similarly to the griseous orb to be honest.

>>25714182
Bulbapedo is run by petty children that if you even try to prove them wrong, they block you out and claim they know everything and you don't.

File: 1459604321043.png (2KB, 124x79px) Image search: [Google]

2KB, 124x79px

>>25714091
Dude you can chill out the world isn't out to troll you.

>>25714195
No. You can have as many primal as you'd like. They also instantly evolve.
Different mechanic

>>25713715
All of this has been debunked over and over and over in previous threads. Stop pretending that your words are remotely valid.

>>25713870
>two pentagons
>three games
I mean I'm not in this argument or anything but really?

>>25714232
When has a generation ever referred to anything other than new Pokemon?
There are often other things that go along with a new generation, but those are all secondary. New Pokemon is what defines a generation.

>>25714145
No

>>25714284
Watch the teaser again bud

>>25714279
Not the same dude but RB are basically identical. Yellow is different.

Totally feasible that RB would take up one slot and Yellow the toher.

>>25714157
>megas dont count as new Pokemon
You're literally retarded if you believe this, anyone that believes this is retarded. Why you may be wondering?

Because the people behind the Pokemon series calls them new Pokemon every single time. and no fans dumb headcanon will change that.

>>25714280
Not according to Gamefreak. Everything is a new experience for them. Are you going to believe the fans or them?

>>25714306
RBY are only confirmed to transfer to sumo though.

>>25714308
They don't have different numbers in the pokedex you retard.

>>25714313
which is really all the more reason to classify SuMo as a new generation then.

>>25714318
That's completely irrelevant.

Again, I'll take their facts over your dumb opinions 100% of the time

>>25714318
Doesn't matter, word of god trumps all other sources.

>>25714310
New experience? What are you talking about?

>>25714078
They fucking did not put ORAS megas compatibility, why would they bother adding content to the game for a game that will be released 4 years later? That's abandoned content. Should have been put in before ORAS, but nothing happend. Also the two Zygarde colored cores are a ruby and a sapphyre.

>>25714332
If you don't have all the facts don't even bother arguing, you just make yourself look dumb. Unless you aim to shitpost then keep it up

>>25714332
Everything is new, the pokemon, the region, the features, no matter what.

>>25714340
We're talking about generations, not "experience"

>>25714344
Then I guess every game is a new generation.

>>25714328
holy shit.

people this stupid actually exist.

Stay in dneail 6.5 fag. All the sweeter when you get BFTO.

>>25714359
It would be, but they never used the word "generation", so it isn't. But all of those things are new in every game according to them.

>>25714328
>>25714329
Megas are just new forms. Origin form Giratina isn't a new Pokemon either. It doesn't matter how these Pokemon are marketed, Mega Blaziken is still just Blaziken holding a rock.

>>25714362
>gets btfo and made out to be a retard
>N-NO YOU ARE THE RETARD
Not even a nice try, just stop before you get even further behind.

>>25714371
Then you are just making shit up. I rest my case.

>>25713317
>people retroactively admitting their anonymously posted mistakes

Dream on. Gen 6.5 fags will never be held accountable for their immense retardation.

>>25714371
>It doesn't matter how they are marketed
Except it does. Their word is more important than some dumbass on /vp/ legitimately thinking he has any say on the matter

>>25714148
>grasping at straws
>from the retard who's using unused data as evidence, and has been proven wrong again and again

>29 posters
>116 replies

Lol stay true vp

File: g4Q4an0.gif (2MB, 320x256px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 320x256px

>>25714368
>>25714375

So many letters in the alphabet but I think I'll go with...

>>25713324
Gen II reused all of gen I's graphical assets (though it added some new ones like pine trees and overworld pokemon sprites. Gen 5 was very similar to gen 4.

>>25714387
I'm pretty sure they also call different forms as "New Pokemon."
Is Vivillon 20 different Pokemon?

>>25714308
But that would make ORAS gen 7 you retard.

>muh gen 6.5 because muh Zygarbage
>muh gen 6.5 because AZhole's Fartette
You are supposing all by yourself. Gamefreak already told NEW GENERATION

File: AOTPPJenny02.jpg (15KB, 320x240px) Image search: [Google]

15KB, 320x240px

If it's gen 7, then enjoy your less than 100 new Pokemon, little to no post game, a villainous team with an even more ridiculous motive than the last, battle tower clone, and a free level 100 shiny of your choice if you pre-ordered Sun or Moon at game stop. And overall nothing that really sets it apart from any of the previous titles.

Game Freak always has an opportunity to expand upon the games they have, but they always scrap them and move on to the next thing and casualize it even more. I don't know how people like OP can defend this shit and pay $40 for garbage like this.

>>25714417
>gen 7
Generations are all in your head

>>25714425
So why are you here?
Just get out

>>25714425
Get off this board

>>25714394
When people have conversations do they only say one thing and leave?

>>25714425
>Casualize it.
Fuck off memer. Who the fuck plays pokemon for the in-game difficulty? Grow some balls and go online. It's a game for children you won't get your increased difficulty.

>>25714425
Pretty much this.

Retards praying desperately for a bare bones gen 7 actually getting hyped for this shit will get no sympathy from me when this release with barely any content.

They'll more than likely turn around and whine about how shit it is and how lazy and bad GF are.


A gen 6.5, or sequel or whatever to X/Y would be so much better content wise :^)

>>25714463
I will, because Pokemon mainline games are dead if it turns out to be gen 7

>>25714387
>Their word is more important than some dumbass on /vp/
Wait, which side are you on? If you're taking GF's marketing as gospel then SM is confirmed gen 7.

>>25714473
No, it would only add content we already know of and literally nothing else. This game needs a refreshment and a third game of gen 6 would stagnate the situation even more, I don't care about Zygarde nor Southern Kalos. 2bqh pham I hate both of them.

>>25714492
Generations are all in your imaginaton

At this point the argument is just whether or not new Pokemon constitute a new generation. Which is stupid, because new Pokemon has always been what defines a new generation.
Gold and Silver expanded the pokedex
Ruby and Sapphire expanded the pokedex
Diamond and Pearl expanded the pokedex
Black and White expanded the pokedex
X and Y expanded the pokedex

ORAS added new megas, but did not expand the pokedex.

SUMO is confirmed to expand the pokedex with Magearna and the bird.

>>25713433
You can find Armored Mewtwo in the first fucking gen. Guess what's under the armor. A FUCKING MEWTWO.

File: 1458153806140.png (292KB, 800x718px) Image search: [Google]

292KB, 800x718px

>>25714425
And I'll probably enjoy it too, because all that really matters to me is the Pokemon and characters. I like playing the games, sure, but I'm mainly just in this overly cynical and crybaby fandom for the variety of monsters and characters.

Enjoy your pissiness and self-loathing, champ.

>>25714387
new national dex # = new Pokemon

this is how it's always been

>>25714540
Your headcanon is irrelevant.

>>25714514
But what if those are the only two new Pokemon? And SM is still in Kalos with the same starters etc. Wouldn't you consider it gen 6 then?

>>25714547
lol

>>25714371
I see where you are coming from. And i agree. But lets try looking at it like we are Gamefreak. They have to give it a new design, new stats, new type, new ability. To them it might be as much of a hassle. I wouldn't be surprised if they counted it as such.

I recall someone saying something about this before, so I dug up all of my pokemon main series games to check. The word "generation" HAS been used before by Gamefreak. For D/P. Interesting they would use that term again. D/P was made during the 10th anniversary. It is also the game that forever changed the landscape of how trades and battles happen. Is there more that could qualify that was unique to D/P that would warrant the use of the word as opposed to all the other games?

>>25714547
But your retarded 6.5 headcanon is totally relevant, right?

The fact that the Pokemon Centers changed this much between XYORAS and SuMo is a dead give away this is a new region.

>>25714580
>6.5
I never said anything about 6.5 desu baka

File: 1458177584970.gif (92KB, 280x192px) Image search: [Google]

92KB, 280x192px

>>25714540
But don't you see, Anon? Don't you see?! We can clearly no longer define a gen by this because a third version of some kind is needed to close out a gen!

We absolutely NEED a third version in order to use all of the unused data, because otherwise Gen VI apparently becomes an absolute shithole that can't be saved in these peoples' eyes.

Because apparently, an enhanced third version that only adds a few extras is more important than going on to the next region and introducing a completely different Pokedex, characters, and potentially other things that could be interesting.

Considering peoples' views on Game Freak's track record, a potentially lackluster third enhanced version > a new series of games that introduces a completely different setting.

>>25714549
I'd be really surprised if that happened. And not in a good way.

File: 1458410096885.png (8KB, 494x376px) Image search: [Google]

8KB, 494x376px

>>25714586
But Anon, obviously Southern Kalos would have a vastly different Pokemon Center interior than its northern counterpart would.

File: Clownfish.png (95KB, 190x190px) Image search: [Google]

95KB, 190x190px

This "Gen 6.5" meme needs to die

everything depends from the region, if it's different part of the kalos, then it's sequel to gen 6 and is still the gen 6 just as with bw/bw2 it's still the same region and generation

we were always counting new generation by new region and new mons, why ppl in this tread are so fucking dumb...

>>25714306
Same with X/Y/OR/AS. Come on now.

>>25714659
But why? Kalos had the same amount of cities as Kanto.

>>25713266
>So if you think compatibility means a new Gen, you're wrong unless you seriously go around calling GSC gen 1.5

but GSC wasn't battle compatible at all.

>>25714586
The Pokemon Centers looked different from XY to ORAS.

>>25714943
I'm just going to bring up that Kiloude is stated to be a sample of Southern Kalos so it isn't weird that it'd still look different. I'm not here arguing for or against.

File: Logo styles.png (2MB, 1676x1200px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 1676x1200px

Today I will remind them.

>3D, names are the letters X and Y
>3D, names feature the letters Ω and α
>Goes back to a style similar to Gens 3-5 logos, names are celestial bodies

>>25715077
Hoenne =/= Kalos

>>25715088

Also.

>XY: 3D poke ball
>ORAS: 3D poke ball, nearly identical
>SM: Comet poke ball

File: 1454661747471.gif (319KB, 250x250px) Image search: [Google]

319KB, 250x250px

>>25713280
THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS A HALF GEN FUCKWAD

>>25713324
it doesn't matter how similar they look, a new gen is a new gen

>>25716526
>it doesn't matter how similar they look

Yes it does. Every gen has had its own distinctive look. If SM is like XY and ORAS with the exact same aesthetic, no mechanics changed, PSS/amie still on the bottom screen and everything it'll be called gen 6. Regardless of there being new Pokemon and a different region.

>>25714586
Yes, I agree. But that doesn't deconfirm the games being gen 6. Anyone with a fucking brain can realize these games will feature a new region.

>>25713342
>red, blue, green: yellow
>gold, silver: crystal
>ruby, sapphire: emerald
>diamond, pearl:platinum
>black, white:black and white 2

>x, y: sun and moon

Does that make any fucking sense to you?

>inb4 muh sundial

>>25716541
Because you say so?

>>25716541
I didn't say anything about mechanics, I said looks. Graphics. Can you read?

>Regardless of there being new Pokemon and a different region.

If there is a new region and new pokemon that can't be traded backwards that means we have a new region. Have you ever played pokemon?

>>25713845
This

starters, region, new engine > expanded pokedex is what defines a new generation

File: moonsunZ[1].png (831KB, 1200x404px) Image search: [Google]

831KB, 1200x404px

>>25716566
No because that's what everyone will think. Just wait a couple of months. People will be calling it gen 6. People are only assuming it's gen 7 now because the marketing is fooling them.

>>25716560
>red, green, BLUE
>gold, silver, CRYSTAL
>ruby, sapphire, EMERALD
>diamond, pearl, PLATINUM
>black, white, BLACK 2, WHITE 2
>hurr black 2 and white 2 is impossible because it doesn't fit!

see? I can cling onto naming scheme patterns to look retarded too!

So what are you going to say when it's revealed the hawaii-like area is just part of "Southern Kalos", the starters are Chespin, Froakie, and Fennekin, and Sycamore sets you off on your journey to do shit with Zygarde, which just happens to include new Pokemon?

Is that still 100% Gen 7?
Can you say without any measure of doubt that the region is not South Kalos, there are new starters and legendaries, and it will have as few ties to Gen 6 as Gen 3 and 4 had together? If you can, please show me evidence of those things being the case considering Gamefreak is on this weird streak of arbitrarily breaking all these old habits. What if Sun/Moon is just like BW2, except with new Pokemon?

>>25716560
>color, color, color, color
>metal, metal, gemstone?
>gemstone, gemstone, gemstone
>gemstone, gemstone, metal?
>back to color, color, then color2/color2
It's never fucking made sense to me.

>>25716598
>I didn't say anything about mechanics, I said looks. Graphics. Can you read?

I already covered graphics. Can you read?

>If there is a new region and new pokemon that can't be traded backwards that means we have a new region

I'm assuming you mean "new generation," not "new region." And no, it doesn't mean a new generation. ORAS has moves that can't be traded backwards to XY. Does that mean ORAS is a new gen? Nope. Then neither does new Pokemon if everything else is the same. Chances are SM will act exactly like ORAS in that Pokemon/moves that are in XY can be traded back but not new megas/pokemon/moves

.

>>25716615
Except black 2 white 2 makes fucking sense. Pokemon grey sounds a bit dumb don't you think?

They could've called the next games pokemon bread and butter and you would still assume they had some correlation because "muh gamefreak patternz don't matter"

>>25716654
>Pokemon grey sounds a bit dumb don't you think?
Gamefreak themselves outright stated they were going to make Pokemon Grey and decided not to, just to dash peoples' expectations of them making grey. So they made Black and White 2.

>>25716654
>"muh gamefreak patternz don't matter"

Yeah, they don't. Games of the same generation don't need to have similar names.

>>25716646
>I already covered graphics

It doesn't matter. you're trying to switch the subject so you don't have to explain your reasoning

>ORAS has moves that can't be traded backwards to XY. Does that mean ORAS is a
new gen?

I said new region and POKEMON that can't be traded backward. Not moves. I'm still questioning your literacy.

>Chances are SM will act exactly like ORAS

Speculation is not fact

>>25716697
>It doesn't matter. you're trying to switch the subject so you don't have to explain your reasoning

I already did explain my reasoning.

>I said new region and POKEMON that can't be traded backward. Not moves.
So? It's the same shit. Stuff that can't be traded back.

>Speculation is not fact
It will be.

>>25716716
>So? It's the same shit. Stuff that can't be traded back.

No, no it's not

>It will be.

Stop trying to make your deluded wishes into fact. It's not right because you think you're right.

File: ZkpK9E6.png (427KB, 600x639px) Image search: [Google]

427KB, 600x639px

>>25713590

>the truck

Except literally literally samefag except literally your all wrong

>>25716664

Get your facts straight you nog.

It was always going to be called BW2, but the original plan was Grey split in half. Iwata told them to do something new if it's still going to be on the DS, thus Masuda decided on sequels.

>>25713387
>So yeah... it is Gen7
>able to both trade/battle between the too
>continuation of XYs lore (S/M legends represnted on final zygarde)
>same artstyle
>will likely also introduce sub 100 new pokemon to complete the sub 100 pokedex
new gen
a-a-a-anime exclusive, I mean anime and tretta exclusive, I mean anime and trading card exclusive, I mean anime and all pokemon related media but the games exclusive. ;.; is the saddest thing I've ever seen.

>>25713433
>Armored Mewtwo
it's almost like...there's a mewtwo under it.

>no thought gags in the old anime which was essentially a comedy is the same as the very strictly regulated advertisement that is the modern anime.

Man this reminds me of when the anime and card games pushed surfing pikachu and we both know how that turned out. oh wait it was in the games.

>>25713266
>But even if you think this does Gen 2 was compatible with Gen 1.
Not a 6.5er but they were never truly compatible.

That would be like saying every gen is connected through the various transfer methods.

>>25713585
No, they had a radically different art style, couldn't battle between the two, and had an entirely different plot, and over 100 pokemon.

>>25719231
>Abke to Battle and Trade with eachother

Yup, I'll totally be able to trade all he new Pokemon Backwards, not like GSC didn't do the exact same thing
>Continuation is X/Y's lorr
Didn't know you owned the game and you knew it was a continuation in the lore
Again,
>Same Art style
Didn't know you owned the games
>100 Pokemon
Johto had 100 Pokemon

>>25719246
>2016
>Not knowing it is confirmed you cannot directly trade between S&M and XY/ORAS

>>25719255
They were tradable
Sure, they couldn't trade new Pokemon backwards, but neither will Sun and moon. Sure, they couldn't battle but neither could XY and ORAS if using new Megas. I know they could still battle, but technology has evolved.

>>25719280
>They were tradable
Under the conditions of generation 1 they also couldn't do anything else beyond that.

They weren't compatible.

>>25719264
You can't trade new megas from ORAS to XY. ORAS gen 7 confirmed. Didn't know you owned the game to say it wasen't oh wait...you're a faggot.
>same cel shaded art style from XY is literally on the only pokemon we've seen
hurr it could be a different artstyle

>sub 100
>meaning less than 100
>well this other gen had exactly 100 which has absolutely zero bearing on what you said! so TAKE THAT

>>25719276
You can't trade new megas and iterms from ORAS to XY. ORAS gen 7 confirmed.

All of the new gen arguments are completely stupid

>new mechanics means new gen
HGSS and ORAS have new mechanics, they are not a new gen.

>new engine means new gen
BW doesn't have a new engine. HGSS has as many engine changes as BW.

>compatibility means same gen
GS is compatible with RBY

>FULL compatibility means same gen
ORAS does not have full compatibility with XY.

The ONLY definition that works is new Pokemon and new region. Everything else is just a byproduct.

>>25719337
>HGSS and ORAS have new mechanics, they are not a new gen.
Okay features aren't mechanics. Hgss had no new mechanics. ORAS however had the new megas and the dex nav.

>ORAS does not have full compatibility with XY.
ORAS has full compatibility with X and Y anon every multiplayer feature works between the two.
Gsc and rby weren't fully compatible because it didn't allow for battling.

>>25719353
>every multiplayer feature works between the two
Oh cool, you can use ORAS Megas and Primals in multiplayer with XY?

>>25719337
This guy gets it
>>25719353
Try to use Mega Metagross Vs and X and Y player...Oh wait you can't. It's limited compatibility

>>25719294
No, you can't trade new Megas, meaning the games aren't fully compatible, meaning that compatibility shouldn't determine a new Generation

Less than 100 pokemon means nothing, not sure why you mentioned it in the first place....