Debunked Pokémon Myth

>>25702653
>science
>egg filled with [abstract noun]
Fuck off

>>25702653
The Pokédex entry doesn't say anyone has seen a Blissey egg being laid though. :^)

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>>25702665

>>25702665
This.

Also, haven't you learned by now that the pokedex is full of exaggerations, generalizations, and flat out lies?

The instant the breedingn mechanic was introduced, it discredited the supposed origins and backstories of dozens of pokemon.

>>25702675
There is no evidence that anyone didn't seen one lay a Egg.

>>25702653
Anon, the whole 'nobody has ever seen a Pokemon lay an egg' thing is simply an attempt to place mystique and downplay it for the kiddies playing the game.

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>>25702701
Actually, The Pokédex doesn't lie at all.

>>25702718
I see.

>>25702701
And then they brought in more Pokemon with backstories which were already invalidated by the existing breeding mechanics

>>25702653
What if it only lays unfertilized eggs?

>>25702701
Even when it was introduced, things still got confusing.

Jumpluff, for example.
>Drifts on seasonal winds and spreads its cotton-like spores all over the world to make more offspring.

>>25702742
No.

>>25702718
>the NPCs tell you no one has seen an egg being laid & place mystique around it because they're patronising fuckers & would feel awkward telling the kid MC the truth

Remember the Arceus sequence in HGSS? That's where eggs come from.

>>25703361
From a satanic looking rite?

>>25703377
Yes.

>>25702665
>a bite of happiny

>>25702665

>kek
i actually pee'd a little

>>25702665
technically emotions are just chemical reactions in the brain

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>>25703537

had to

>>25702718
>>25702764
THIS
Just because there are 8 year olds being told kids come from the stork, and nobody wants to tell them otherwise, doesn't mean it's true

my mommy says i didn't come from a stork

>>25703589
And then there's that one guy in Coumarine who mentions the Eggs from the Day Care in front of the protagonist, a teenager who probably already knows what sex is.

>>25702701
>>25702732
>>25702748
I'm just throwing this out there, to get a ball rolling
Occhams razor says the most probable solution is also the most likely one
It's clear that there's some things in the pokemon lore that are lies
could it be more probable that breeding is uncanon, than that most origins of species are lies?

>>25702665
>crack open Blissey's egg
>fireworks, rainbows, and the sound of children's laughter come out

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>>25703708

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>>25703361
Actually, Arceus only created the creation trio and lake guardians before falling in a eternal sleep.

>>25703836
what's your point?

>>25702665
it doesn't need to be filled with anything. just the fact that blissey lays eggs shows that the sinnoh myth about pokemon was wrong

>>25702704
You got your burden of proof mixed up there buddy

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>>25703700
>the most probable solution is also the most likely one

>Ekans
Moving silently and stealthily, it eats the eggs of birds, such as PIDGEY
>Sneasel
Sneasel steals eggs from unattended Pidgey nests.

>>25704783
But those eggs are filled with happiness (which is an idea), not its offspring, and the Eggs you get from the Day Care aren't actual eggs, thus your point is bullshit.

>filled witb happiness
>happinyness
Jesus. Never using softboiled again.

>>25704209
It's filled with happinyess

>>25702665
this >>25703544
they're filled with Dopamine which is actually a smart as fuck explanation if intentional due to being useful as a numbing agent or however happy drugs work

>>25703836
I imagine the people of Sinnoh eating Chansey eggs with the happiny fetuses still inside like Filipinos doe with chicken eggs

>>25702653
Uhm
The picture to the right doesn't contain evidence that it has been observed? It just states something about the egg, right?

>>25704913
read the image again. >>25702653
the myth doesn't specify what is supposed to be inside the egg

>>25703836
>>25704937
>>25704971
>>25704993
Happiny isn't even listed as the Happiness Pokémon. It's the Playhouse Pokémon.

>>25705025
See
>>25703544
>>25704987

>>25705017
If it's not observed then how does the Pokedex know?

>>25705037
They haven't seen the egg LAID, but they do see the egg after it's been laid.

>>25705059
No. It see the Pokémon lay Eggs.

>>25705110
The pokedex entry doesn't state that it saw them laid the eggs. It just assumes they're laid because that's kind of how it works.

>>25705131
The pokedex just displays information but it doesn't actually "think"

Tyranitar's Pokedex entry says that it cannot be harmed by any attack. Yet this is demonstrably untrue, in multiple parts of the Pokemon canon. Why should we take any Pokedex entry at face value?

>>25702686
just got platinum playing it for the first time.. i literally tried this last night.

>>25705137
It's only normal to assume that if an egg is produced, it's laid.
If we didn't know hen lay eggs, but discovered an egg within the area of where there are hen and roosters, it's only natural to assume that the egg was laid by the goddamn KFC nugget

>>25704908

Pidgey BTFO

>>25705158
Why is Pokémon so shit at plot-/lore-gameplay integration?

>>25705247
pokemon is just shitty in general

try yokai watch or digimon

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>>25703700
>Occhams razor says the most probable solution is also the most likely one

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>>25705131

>>25705172
Good to know.

>>25705383
Eggs in irl real life are pretty much a cradle, too. They let the parent reduce body weight and nutrient intake while still giving the child protection while it develops.

>>25705421
Good to know.

>>25705445
Glad you liked my post

>>25705455

:)

>>25705383
He comes from a hyper-Christian family where sex is the devil.

>>25705462
sound about right.

>>25702653
>The pokedex is science
>Killing indian elephants
>Magcargo is hotter than the sun
>Alakazam has an IQ of over 5000 but can only learn 4 moves
>Rapidash runs at 150 MPH
>Fletchling is seen in the opening of XY behaving like a normal bird, its Y dex says it's merciless to those in its territory
Science confirmed bullshit
Creationism actually confirmed in universe
Creationism confirmed by bullshit science no longer know what to believe

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>>25705690

>>25705462
>>25705490
Until you realize that the protagonist in XY is a teenager who's old enough to already know about sex, yet they don't call him off on the matter.

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>>25705287
So if we're just playing it to see how they lay their eggs, does that mean it's not Yokai Watch but Yolk-ai Watch?

>>25703700
Someone just learned about Occham's Razor in class today.
Conclusion should be that the hypothesis with least assumptions is correct anon, cmon son.

>>25705287
>try yokai watch
Already am. Story/gameplay integration is miles better.

>>25706031

Age unconfirm..

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Serena_(game)

>>25703708
>eat blissey egg
>your insides erupt as you double over spewing rainbows, sparks, and the muffled sounds of child laughter from your mouth

no wonder those eggs are banned in unova

>>25706117
It also needs to satisfy every criteria

>>25706031
Age unconfirm...

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Calem_(game)

>>25706155

I couldn't get past the fact that the game is constantly telling you where to go next, pretty much handing you everything you need exactly when you need it.

It doesn't make me want to explore at all outside of the linear path.. It's boring.

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>>25706176

>>25706171
>>25706190
Emma, a 16-year-old, refers to the protagonist as a "grown-up", which implies that the protagonist is at least within the 16-18 age range and much more mature than Emma herself.

>>25706218
What I'm getting from this image is that the eggs a Blissey lays are not the Eggs you receive at the Day Care.

>>25706219
There is no official mention of their age.
Saying that they are 19 and Etc is purely speculation.

>>25706240
There is no evidence of that.
Just purely speculation.

>>25706241
>There is no official mention of their age.
I'm drawing a conclusion based on what I know already. Or do you think that your teacher could be an underageb& unless they tell you how old they are?

>>25706262
>You know?

You think and what you are speculationing

>>25705031
Happiness is the plural form of Happiny
People have been observed to eat pokemon, or at least parts of pokemon

>>25706294
>Happiness is the plural form of Happiny
No, Happiny is the plural form of Happiny, just like how Pikachu is the plural form of Pikachu or Pokémon is the plural form of Pokémon. It's like "moose" or "sheep".

>>25706279
What I know already:
>Emma is stated to be 16 years old
>Emma refers to the protagonist as a "grown-up"
Thus, I can conclude that the protagonist is within the 16-18 age range and much more mature than Emma herself.

>>25705462
>hyper-Christian family where sex is the devil
>Adam and Eve commanded to have children
at least know your source material

>>25706320
>Emma refers to the protagonist as a "grown-up"

There is no official mention of their age.

>>25706117
There's two interpretations.
1) The hypothesis that is least complex is the most likely (naturally being the most testable)
2)The conclusion that is least complex is most likely correct.

>>25706322
sex between a couple is permitted, not sex for pleasure. thats a main tenant, stop shitposting. shit you dont even have to believe in religion to know thats what christians believe.

also keep discussion related to pokemon

>>25706338
A quote from the first meeting:
> "Yup, old man, you got that right." (Looker demands to know who spoke.) "Oh, nobody special. But this little sweetie right here is Mimi. That's what I named it, anyway." (Looker asks her to return Mimi to its Poké Ball.) "Huh? What Poké Ball?" (Looker is confused.) "I'm not a Trainer! Mimi is my friend. I have no money to buy Poké Balls, so I can't be a Trainer, you get it? Anyway, Mimi and I don't need a Poké Ball to be friends!" (Looker begs her pardon and asks why they're in the alley.) "Well, we're all playing, that's all. Everybody here is a friend of mine. What are you asking for? Do you want to join or something?" (One of the preschoolers protests that grown-ups aren't allowed and Mimi echoes her.) "Oh, put a sock in it! Play nice, both of you! How would you like to get left out just 'cause you're old and stuff?" (Looker asks why they picked a dark alley, saying kids need sunshine.) "Oh, really? Well... Mimi and I have always lived in alleys, so I don't know much about sunshine." (Looker inquires about her family.) "They're gone. I'm alone." (Looker responds briefly.) "Well, but... But Mimi is sort of my family. We stick together." (Looker excitedly suggests she stay at the Looker Bureau.) "Wha..." (Looker continues and approaches Mimi, who runs away.) "Mimi gets scared pretty easy. Afraid of humans, I guess. Especially grown-ups. Hey... Mr. Looker-guy... For a minute there, I was kinda happy that you invited me to stay with you... You're pretty cool. But I can't. Mimi likes it better here. I can't leave Mimi behind. We stick together." (Looker says he wants to try something else, with his dependable partner.) "P-partner?" (Looker tells his partner to befriend Mimi.)

>>25706240
But Blissey can lay day-care eggs, so a better conclusion is that Blissey can lay 2 types of eggs. With Exeggcute, there are at least 3 types of egg styles, and likely more.

>>25706352
>sex between a couple is permitted, not sex for pleasure.
If Pokémon ever have sex, it's only ever to reproduce. At least, that's what can be assumed.

>>25706369
Did you even read that quote that you posted? The one from the guy in Coumarine. The Day-Care Eggs are not really eggs, but rather more like cradles.

>>25706117
>Someone just learned about Occham's Razor in wikipedia today.
fixed

>>25706366
There is no official mention of their age.

>>25706380
Human Eggs aren't exactly the same thing as Bird Eggs, and yet Egg is the name.
I wouldn't call Exeggcute the same thing as Day-care egg nor a bird-styled egg, but I would call them an egg all the same.

>>25706412
Yes, multiple things that have the same name have different functions.
>Exeggcute are seeds
>Blissey eggs are a food
>bird eggs hold developing embryos
>Day-Care Eggs cradle offspring assumed to have already been born until it's mature enough to battle

And a real-life analogy, for comparison:
>There are wheels used to make things move easily on the ground
>There are wheels used to change the direction things go in

>>25706397
Now you're just being stubborn as a Noway.


...Say "no way!"

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>>25706457
>>Blissey eggs are a food.


Fun fact: People eat Pokémon.
It doesn't matter, if It's in a Egg or not.

>>25706503
The Games doesn't mention their age.

>>25706506
>Fun fact: People eat Pokémon.
I never said they didn't. In fact, I am well aware that Pokémon eat other Pokémon.

>>25706514
Can you not draw conclusions based on evidence? Do you really need everything spelled out for you?
Noway, I really like you! Please don't become friends with me!

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>>25706534
Yes. Kyurem eat the people and Pokémon of Unova.

>>25706540
> Do you really need everything spelled out for you?


Yes. I do.

>>25706562
And that's why Pokémon is not the series for you.

>>25706664
Pokémon series is about collecting.

>>25706506
>honedge washes ashore
>t-thanks sinnoh

>>25706725
However, the lore tends to leave a few blanks that the player must fill in for themselves, which you seem unable to do.

>>25706664
The concept of the Pokémon universe, in both the video games and the general fictional world of Pokémon, stems from the hobby of insect collecting, a popular pastime which Pokémon executive director Satoshi Tajiri enjoyed as a child.

The Players of the games are designated as Pokémon Trainers, and in the main series Pokémon games, these trainers have two general goals. These are to complete the Pokédex by collecting all of the available Pokémon species found in the fictional region where that game takes place and to train a team of powerful Pokémon from those they have caught to compete against teams owned by other Trainers, and eventually win the fictional Pokémon League. These themes of collecting, training, and battling are present in almost every version of the Pokémon franchise, including the video games, the anime and manga series, and the Pokémon Trading Card Game.

>>25706733
A Man kill Pokémon using a honedge.

>>25706752
Speculatied..

>>25706755
>>25706808
I'm beginning to suspect that you speak no English, have copypasted everything you post or otherwise have learned to type it visually, and haven't a clue as to the meanings of the individual words or the percumbant rules of syntax.

>>25706896
ok.

>>25702653
..

>>25705725
so this is what satoshi becomes

>>25706366
Purely going off the text, it seems probable that she is calling Looker the grown up. You would do better to post screens as proof, not text.

Mew can't learn Crabhammer.

>>25706117
Yeayeyeah, but get the point
could it be that it's less assumptive to just rule out the whole thing regarding breeding, rather than saying that so many pokes don't come to be the way they are said to?
isn't that less assumptive than to say yamask, cubone, phantump, and so many others are just lies?

>>25707175
Not all of them are mutually exclusive. The first Yamask/Phantump could have come into existence as the Pokedex describes, but still capable of breeding the usual way.

The rest are likely just rumors that the player character heard. I mean, even the height and weight in the Pokedex is wonky. An encyclopedia based off a teenager's observations is bound to be shit.

>all these faggots arguing about Occam's Razor
>Nobody even knows how to fucking spell it

>>25702764
Shit why the hell are they talking to you about eggs at all. You just barged in their home unannounced a total stranger, talking about breeding and eggs is some skewered priorities.

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>Pokedex

>>25703700
>the most probable solution is also the most likely one
just like you are probably underage and most likely underage?

I really want a gen where they make new dex entries for all pokes, entries that actually make sense
Redo the size/weight thing too

What I never understood was how you have to be 10 years old to get your first pokemon, which is the age of most of the MCs but throughout your adventure you fight preschoolers and almost infants who have pokemon. Even the twin baby girls are gym leaders. How is this legal?

When are we getting an Indian Elephant Pokemon?

>>25707860

>twin baby girls

>>25707860
>which is the age of most of the MCs
no it's not. The Anime made that rule up. MC in R/B is 11 and ORAS protags are 12.

>>25707860
This was anime shit

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>>25703700
I came here to say that breeding is uncanon

>>25702653
>Steel is a new type

>>25705690
What if the moves aren't actually what the Pokemon know, but are only what the trainer can remember?

Maybe you're just an idiot kid.

>>25702665

>serious debate about the magical calculator that talks about nuclear mutant fairy monsters that live in hammer space

I'm not reading beyond this post, ya'll niggas silly

I bet Blissey eggs are a club drug.

>>25706755
>insect collecting
>all pokemon produce eggs
>all pokemon can learn toxic
Pokemon confirmed for a shit ton of creepy, diverse insects.

>>25707860
That was only in the cartoon. Even taking vidya into account, I'm assuming you'd have to be at least ten to participate in sporting events such as the League or Battle facilities.

>>25707860
>become like five or something
>literally my mom's dogs create literally my mom's dogs' puppy
>literally my mom gives me the puppy
Young and owning a pokemon. That simple. Not everyone has a professor handing out pokemon like the worlds shittiest cigars.

If the Pokédex is 100% canon, then it's incredibly shitty nonsense canon. I think they just put big numbers and claims of amazing power there to impress the kiddies. It's absolute garbage for an adult though. But we're not the main audience so I guess that's understandable. But still... Don't trust the Dex on every matter.

No idea about the whole egg thing. There clearly are eggs but everything is kept rather ambiguous because they can't do Pokésex references.

>>25710805
I'm drawing the conclusion that the Dex runs on cartoon physics.

As for the egg thing, I'm willing to bet that GF are doing everything they can to keep the mystery of how Pokémon reproduce a mystery.

>>25710805
As far s breeding goes, with all the shit pokemon can do, it's not so odd an idea that a couple can materialize an egg. I guess the reason gays can't is because magic biology or some shit.

>>25705110
you're stupid. seeing an egg doesnt mean you saw that egg come out of a fucking animal. i dont need or have to birth a hen every time i want breakfast.

>>25705110
if you see a baby do you say you saw the mother give birth to it?

>>25706117
then their point still stands. if you just choose to know what he means.

>>25706171
he didnt say number age. he said teenager. she's definitely not 10, and definitely not 20, so that description is accurate.

>>25706241
theyre not saying that. they literally just said "teenager" which is fucking fact. theyre not 6 or 30 or something. do you realize how stupid you sound making this argument against it when that isnt even what they said?

>>25706260
there is evidence of that. for the same reason baby kangaskhan isnt an egg or a real separate pokemon. it's there right on the belly. it looks physically different. it behaves physically different. one is a plain white egg that never holds a baby, and is only used as an item. pokemon eggs either emulate their hatchee or are yellow with lil green spot things. this is a visual game. we see everything with our eyes. there's no ambiguity here. you cry out "its just speculation!" but your own opinions are even less than such, rather just hollow wishes, not educated guesses.

>>25702653
If noone's ever seen a Pokemon lay an egg, how would people know what "laying an egg" is in the first place?

>>25702653
Somebody spam this guy with every time the pokedex says a myth.

>>25702653
rekt