Sage Sunday: Forgetting the Subject like an Idiot Edition

>>25645951
pure bug forever

David is a fag

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>>25645951
>Sprites
Sprite Quality Control is in the works for the Bouwee line, the Platypow line, and Magnitogre.
>Music
Wibe has started from Dacapo with music, and we're working our way through all areas.
Dacapo to Route 1 is finished, and the rest of the content up to Quaver is in the works.
>Stats
The TMs so far in Demo 2.0 have been distributed to various Pokemon.
These include Dig, Rock Tomb, False Swipe, Struggle Bug, and Hidden Power.
Other minor things include a moveset change and some EV changes. Nothing of note.
On the shitposting side, Megahorn is likely to be removed from Basilect.
>Other
Fog being involved in the game was removed.
Grunts are nearly ready to get a design.
They do, however, now have a standardized pool of Pokemon, barring some reconciliation.
Plot's been being refined. Specific details of an encounter with Team Aurum in Dronia are being hammered down.
Sofia/Simon's team is done.

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Now for some actual updates.

This is the Friendly Rival's team. Some of the sprites have yet to be Quality Controlled so don't make fun of them please.

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Maps is currently working on a 'teaser' section of the Starry Cave. Here's the current progress on that. Tiles are looking nice as you can hopefully tell.

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Here's something that's been posted before - the confirmed Andante Bay.

>>25645994
ignore my shitty cut and paste with those ocerumis on the right

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Here's our confirmed Route 10, with the start of Distros work on it - the Pokemon on the route.

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And here's what we're trying to do with Route 9. Any criticism here is welcome. We've been toying with ideas to make it less bland.

>>25646018
the tree's overlapping on each other look really bad

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>>25646036
This should be good for posting, I think I got the errors but who knows lol. There's a couple of competing dialogues for the trainers so those are blank for now.

>>25646042
It looks better ingame. I'll post a webm of it in a bit.

>>25646054
I don't think it will but i'm open to being proven wrong. How set in stone is that tile/how closely they are packed?

Was it unanimous agreement by you guys? I know my input won't mean much but if a few people among st you guys aren't a fan of it ether, maybe you should consider working on it again for the demo after this upcoming one

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>>25646060
>Was it unanimous agreement by you guys?
Mostly. I think I was the only person who didn't like them.

>>25646060
There's not a lot of point in making changes for a vocal minority when you risk upsetting everyone.
Actual game devs should try this approach more often.

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I barely vetted this one, probably an error hiding around somewhere.
>>25646060
The map was confirmed with 17/19 people for it.
The tile might get worked on a bit, but the packing's set from some ancient hexing trees agreement.

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Here's the observatory map - pretty simple.
Ignore the rocks outside of that cave entrance in the upper left. The cave entrance itself should be getting a unique tile, and the rocks will be moved into the cave.

>>25646079
>>25646071
>>25646063
>>25646060
It wasn't universal, at least 4-5 people were against it, but it's unlikely to change, even for demo 3.0. we note your input though and i'll keep it in mind for down the line, I know other anon's have said similar things so clearly it's contentious.

>but the packing's set from some ancient hexing trees agreement.

For normal 3x3 trees, yes, but the dispute is about which palm trees should be used, the thin ones aren't bound to that

>>25646063
Who are you?

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>>25646085
>The cave entrance itself should be getting a unique tile
It's already existed for well over a year.

>>25646097
>Who are you?
one of the devs. I should probably namefag when talking about the game, but fuck it.

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>>25646085
Ah, this one and the Route 7 one don't have the Wild Pokemon in their templates.

Route 7's a bit more 'developer'. We're trying to see what else we can give the Loggers, if anything, and we might hand an Orett to the Engineer, but it's solid otherwise.


You can see the "dev" quality to some of this, as I usually only refine them when everything's finished.

This should close off the distros update posts. I'll see if I can find that webm.
Music's not really noteworthy yet. We've basically used everything from the last demo again, unsurprisingly.

>>25646097
fuck off maj

>>25646097
>For normal 3x3 trees, yes, but the dispute is about which palm trees should be used, the thin ones aren't bound to that
Thin trees got out voted, please stop.

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Here's a quick walkthrough of that Route 10.
It's a bit outdated but should get the point across.

I'll be up for another hour or so for all your fun questions.

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>>25646106
I know dummy, i'm saying who exactly so I know if you are sombody who I know already dislikes it or somebody else who I didn't, which would add to the dissent total i'm gonna keep now.

>>25646111
at this rate, not by much. I was against it, as was 3-4 others, plus 3 anons in sage sundays. even not counting the anons, that's enough for it to not have consensus had the nos just all been present at the time.

>>25646107
nah you fuck off

>>25646135
looks worse actually

>>25646097
thank you

>>25646145
Damn those are some wrong opinions.

>>25646139
well gee if they sure had voted against it in confirmation maybe that would have mattered : ^ )
honestly kill yourself

thanks for the interiors

>>25646145
eh. hexing is a art really. having unique tree tiles that hex is pretty challenging - we've been having the same issues with mangroves on route 9

>>25646150
nerd

sure is hot in here

nah 4 real can't wait for the game, been following since day one aight peace

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>>25646157
no you fuck off

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possible erion et admin design

>>25646175
>>25646139
>>25646097
I thought they killed you off? Someone let me in on this spicy hot drama~

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oh yeah here's the objectively best design for ETL
i liked it so much i downloaded it twice, lost the downloads, and then downloaded it again

majora is a fag pass it on

>>25646145
I agree too. I can't think of a way to fix that though. Any palm tree tile would have a large top so it would hex badly, so just making a new palm tree wouldn't necessarily fix the problem.

People also don't want to have separate standing alone trees. One of the unwritten mapping rules is that you have a group of trees that's more than a few tiles across, you hex them to make them tidy.

So in the end, we do need to hex the trees, but changing the tree tile specifically wont really help the issue.

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quickly vetted this one too
here's the forest going in - grunt details are still bein' worked through though.

>>25645994

Ohh i like how the second pokemon has the 2 types the starter is not.

>>25646107
from level 17 to level 24. quite a level leap on a single route.

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>>25646004
made some new rock tiles for this.
Will also be posting older versions of the cave tiles with some gifs that show off the sparkles.

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>>25646419
Gonna start from oldest to newest so you can see how things have changed over time.

>>25646413
Dumbasses decided to have the 2nd gym unlock cut. Which is an awful idea, which naturally meant it had tons of support.

>>25646413
You will note that the collector is behind a cut tree. The player won't be able to use cut on their first pass through the route

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>>25646427

>>25646427
>>25646430

oh i didnt notice the cut trees, makes sense now.

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>>25646434

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>>25646437
Posting some layouts we were making for the map itself. They were made before >>25646004 and >>25646419

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>>25646452

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>>25646454
And the layout we finally decided to go with.

Should explain, this isn't the entire dungeon, just a small area for a plot event. The main cave is HM locked.
This is just a small area because you already go through a large route just to get here and we don't want to stretch out the distance between gym 1 and 2 even more.

This whole event was a mistake, fuck plot chat :^)

since david forgot to say it, >>25646464 will probably use the tiles from >>25646004

>>25646498
how could i forget to say what tiles we're probably going with when you posted the map it goes with my friend
come on step it up

>>25646294
Do you have these for the previous routes? It's nice to see all the items and trainers and stuff all in one

>>25646540
I don't think we really had them before we started working on 2.0

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Breaking news! Some new music results confirmed for the next demo. You will probably recognize a few of these tracks. They were in the last demo too, but a few will be new.

>Tremol Town's theme is locked.

https://soundcloud.com/dewdneym/tremol-town

>Route 2's Theme is locked.

https://soundcloud.com/dewdneym/early-game-route-v2-formerly

>Ricardo's Encounter Theme is locked.

https://soundcloud.com/dewdneym/doucherado-encounter-bw2

>Ricardo's Battle Theme is locked.

https://soundcloud.com/dewdneym/doucherado-black-and-white-2-1

>Foster's Battle Theme is Locked.

https://soundcloud.com/dewdneym/pokemon-vp-foster-froster

>Quaver Town's Theme will go in to a runoff between these 2

https://soundcloud.com/dewdneym/quaver-town

https://soundcloud.com/iusethistofollowpatrick/dyswi-pkmn-3

>>25647182
don't vote for qb he's a fag

>>25646004
Holy shit, that's some eyecandy. Keep up the great work.

>>25646004
>>25646464
>>25647193
Some nice tiles and lighting effects can really make a difference.

>>25645978
>TMs so far in Demo 2.0 have been distributed to various Pokemon.
Didn't someone do them all and people sperged out for some reason? Why did you all do them again? Seems like a waste of time desu senpai.

>>25646175
>posting designs that have already been posted

You failed David. I trusted you and you failed

>>25646018
I like the look and feel of the map, but question: why are there tidepools on two different elevations?

>>25648159
None of the mappers really understand how tidepools work at all

>>25648210
So people admit that they're violating basic physics with it?

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>>25648259
it looks cool

>>25648259
Silly anon, mere human abstracts like "physics" or "logic" have no hold in the realm of Mapchat. Only Coolness and Expediency rule there.

>>25648299
>>25648314
I mean I guess it's not the end of the world, it does look cool

>>25648314
Is most of Sage worked on by idiots? Not trying to insult but how intelligent are the workers of Sage? What are some basic IQs?

>>25648703
>Is most of Sage worked on by idiots?
Yes

>>25648760
How dumb are we talking?

>>25648772
Absolutely fucking retarded

>>25648778
Like who? I refuse to believe that all of them are absolutely fucking retarded

>>25648789
Well Dunky for one is probably the dumbest of the bunch. Glad he's gone.

>>25648812
No one cares about him senpai, what about the people still working?

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>>25648845
I can give a positive diagnosis for mental retardation for all members of mapchat

>>25647883
some guy did them all but he did a bunch of them stupidly
>>25648159
current map is minimally low tide, where each of the tidepools are is a drop in elevation. at highest tide the pools at the higher elevation are replenished, but it doesn't rise up that much.

>>25648703
I'd say we average somewhere around 80, with IQs trending downwards the further south you go geographically

>>25645951
It's been two weeks since the last one of these. I went through this post; do you guys have more content to share?

>>25649057
Nope that's it, come back next week

>>25649070
:\

>>25649086
nigga we posted the new content

>>25649139
All these things didn't spring out of nowhere, and all the other sage sundays talked about how they were working on parts of the game for months.

There's a lot of region left from that map on the wiki. What's going on in that big desert? Or the jungle in the southwest? Even concept art or rough map ideas or something.

>>25649173
We do the maps sequentially.
We're focusing on the content up to the third gym right now. All maps have older concept maps for them, but they haven't been tweaked to the extent these maps have.

>>25648894
hahahahahahahhahahahahahahaha this is fucking great

Is this game gonna be hard?

>>25649501
Yes it will be hard.

>>25649501
I remember talk about postgame having level 100 mons, but that was in 2013

>>25649501
We want it to be harder then GF's games, certainly. The challenge is making it a challenge, but not making it tedious, which iis very hard to avoid with the pokemon forumula short of having really good AI; and while we plan on and think we can do AI that's better then GFs, there's only so much we can do with that.

>>25649523
pls no

>>25649594
fuck off majora

>>25649629
you fuck off

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I appreciate you guys are keeping us up to date, but for fucks sake stop posting content.

Whats the point if everyones already seen it? You guys need a better manager. You['re supposed to show trailer worthy things, not your entire damn asset pipeline.

Hell I wouldn't be surprised if some DA suers stole all your shit already.

>>25651041
you clearly don't understand the ties between CAPX and this board then

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This wasn't posted yet and was something that happened entirely since the last thread so why not, the pokemon lines that the Evil Team would use was decided.

Chimpoca, Toxito, Pomparunt and Koblin in the first round.
Pueblant, Quibble and Gilla in the second.

For a total of 7 pokemon lines. Representing the types, fighting, poison, bug, dark, steel, fire, rock, flying, ground. Representing generic evil themes, thug related themes, treasure themes, etc.

>>25651041
"better manager"

do you think this project has a manager

>>25651350
Majora is the manager right? I mean, you all let him run around like one anyways right?

Is 2.0 still coming before Summer?

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>>25651823

>>25651823
oh you're a memer, I thought you were actually just a confused anon

>>25651903
What? Who is the blob there?

>>25651932
A bit of one, but he likes to post on multiple topics, so he has to have some managerial role right?

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>>25651964

>>25652003
I dont get it

>>25651350
>>25651823
>>25651932
>>25651964
All of us are managers: it's a democracy. It's not efficient and it's not pretty, but it's what it needs to before the project to respect it's origins and it's core tenants.

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>>25651903
>>25652003
>muh boogeymen
pic related

>>25652050
>WARPOX
Dunky confirmed for spreading Smallpox as biological warfare

>>25652050
You're just posting from your phone dude

I'm gonna snapchat you a picture of my bare ass if you keep it up

>>25652077
You got me.

>>25646018
What's the mechanics for the tidepools? Does that area get flooded at different times? Will those be deep space surf spots? Can you walk in those or fish in them? Can you surf them?

>>25652104
>not a bear ass
Pussy. Wrong ago though.

>>25652104
So paranoid.

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>>25652179
I know you're hungry all the time but you gotta get better at not taking the b8

>>25645978
>On the shitposting side, Megahorn is likely to be removed from Basilect.
Fucking finally

>>25651041
> stop posting content.
Do you want constant where's muh content sperge threads on /vp/?
>You['re supposed to show trailer worthy things, not your entire damn asset pipeline.
Not how this works
>Hell I wouldn't be surprised if some DA suers stole all your shit already.
Already done

You're clearly new so I'm gonna give you some old advice, lurk more.

>>25652146
Oh my god shut up.

>>25652499
wat'd the do senpai, bang yer mum?

>>25646185
I'd be interested in seeing it with a medium length and pointy-tuxedo-tails instead of the cape-shape.

>>25646185
>another waifu
Can you just like, draw someone who has menopause for once?

>>25652842
Sorry to disappoint those with an old-person fetish. You're going to have to live with foster and maybe shaman. We actually want the majority of our characters to look nice, so they age like asians.

>>25653170
>old-person fetish
This thread has demonstrated that many of you are in facts retarded, but do you mean to tell me that you all design things based on how attractive they are rather than their merit as to the design?

Why do we bother making these threads? Smokey hates it and there is never anything in any of them that amounts to anything or has any ounce of positivism in it.

>>25653403
Fuck off dunky.

>>25653269
I don't design characters at all. Have you stopped for a minute to consider that our characters might actually be young? If they are young, is there any point in making them unattractive? Where trying to make an enjoyable experience here, and quite simply, ticking boxes to fill some kind of attractiveness demographic is not on our priority list at all.

>>25653433
Just seems like there's some rule of cool and rule of hot going on here. Doesn't seem very realistic.

Like, just because you're young doesn't make you attractive. I'm sure that most of the devs are young and ugly as sin right?

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>>25653426
Case and point.

>>25653482
Well, if it's so much shit, what are you doing to fix it?

>>25653454
again. wtf would we deliberately make ugly characters. It doesn't benefit anyone.

>>25653512
Because that's indicative of real life? I know you devs like to do meetups and circlejerk on social media, so you know what you all look like. So, how does that make your game believable if everyone is a waifu or husbando? It's simply unrealistic.

>>25653553
>real life
Sorry bud. This is pokemon. Not real life. realism is not something you should go to pokemon to find.

If you really can't handle it, go check the official games and find an ugly character before complaining to us. I don't even want to bring it up as a discussion point without some basis.

>>25653597
>Not real life
Then why is nurse joy tan?

My is Magnitogre so hideous? Most sage fakemon look okay, but that specific one looks like something a twelve years old drew. Why is that allowed?

>>25653403
because I'm a masochist

>>25653639
I ask myself the same question frequently. Some things fell through the cracks earlier on in the project's history when quality control wasn't as high. Sometimes it's just shit taste.

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>>25653639
What a meanie.

>>25653639
Why is [insert pokemon] so hideous? Most Pokemon look okay, but that specific one looks like something a twelve years old drew. Why is that allowed?

>>25651041
I actually fully agree with this. Unfortunately not many others in the project share the same opinion.

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>>25653690
That sounds like a red hot opinion to me.

>>25653744
Thank you for your valued opinion oh wise tripfag.

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>>25653759

>>25653744
hey clash fuck you

>>25653778
Clashy poo, r u simgle?

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Gonna post some art

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ITT

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>>25653787
no, but if you want to talk about stuff not related to the project you can message me on skype or the forum

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>>25653815

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>>25653821

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>>25653807
Now we're just

>>25653836
hey bb u know I was joking right

come back to bed

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>>25653835

>>25653847
this was @ clash but you too anon why not

everyone's invited

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>>25653851

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>>25653873

Omg I'm so hyped! How long have you guys been working on this anyways? Do you have an estimate of when the full release will be?

>>25653934
when's your birthday?

>>25653934
>How long have you guys been working
To long
>estimate of when the full release
We don't give estimates since they're normally taken out of context, taken to seriously or generally are just inaccurate.

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>>25653934
We have been working on it since October 2012, and no real estimate. But games take time to make, so don't expect it super soon. But glad you are interested in our game!

Do you still keep the dropbox up
I want to look at that shitty "gen1" turkistador I did back in 2013

>>25653934
Gen 9

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>>25653972
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/g0exdjc1rdlkg4z/dZAAdIcVGB
It is not up-to-date

finished the demo and now im depressed
it was a good game wish there was more to play

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>>25654011
Its fine I just wanted to see my edgy abomination again

>>25654027
Why did you give it an aviator cap

>>25654124
mine on the right

>>25646010
>>25646018
>>25646036
>>25646054
>>25646079
>>25646085
>>25646107
>>25646135
>>25646294

I'm digging all the alternate paths in the routes. Seriously, it's refreshing to have varied routes like this

>>25646036
I give criticism to this every time and every time you guys ignore it.

So deal with your shitty map yourselves.

>>25654297
Thanks friend.

>>25654345
Np. Enjoy the struggle.

>>25654467
I do every day.

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Reposting for that kind anon last week that Smokey fucked over.

>>25654518
Is this a mega evo?

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>>25654518

>>25654518
Needs another set of wings really.
I think that'd make it more of a mega instead of just a weird redesign.

>>25654011
>tfw I remember all the fanart I did now
I miss you guys

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>>25654535
>>25654534
Yes, they were mega evos made as fanart last week for what could have been a sage sunday thread.

>>25654297
Well I went though the archive to see if I could find it, but all I found was some guy saying he likes our route 9 from 3 sage sundays ago and that hes hyped for QBs route 12. sorry anon. Please use more buzzwords so we can find your feedback easier.

>>25654518
>>25654535
>>25654553
these were the sole reason I didn't make a thread

the sole reason

>>25654535
That's... not even different.
>>25654553
These really don't seem like mega evos.

you guys can use this to make cries for all the pokemon that are left

http://www.bfxr.net/

>>25654570
Yeah I got the same comment last week, I dont know why anon reposted it

>>25654586
how come you left AWC :(

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>>25654546
I miss you too
Come back to us ;_ ;

>>25653690
But most are okay, Magnitogre just looks like it doesn't belong at all. It's just some gray lumps.

>>25654586
sorry that you left awc, hope you're doin' well

>>25654586
http://www.bfxr.net/?s=-1%3E1%3E5%7C7%2C0.5%2C%2C0.1025%2C%2C0.2372%2C0.3%2C0.4663%2C%2C-0.8049%2C%2C0.76%2C%2C%2C0.585%2C%2C0.185%2C%2C%2C0.72%2C0.0119%2C%2C0.93%2C%2C%2C1%2C%2C%2C0.1558%2C%2C%2C%2CmasterVolume%7C0%7C1%7Cfalse%3E6%7C7%2C0.5%2C%2C0.1025%2C%2C0.2372%2C0.3%2C0.4663%2C%2C-0.8049%2C%2C0.76%2C%2C%2C0.585%2C%2C0.185%2C%2C%2C0.72%2C0.0119%2C%2C0.93%2C%2C%2C1%2C%2C%2C0.1558%2C%2C%2C%2CmasterVolume%7C0%7C1%7Ctrue%3E7%7C3%2C0.5%2C%2C0.1025%2C%2C0.2372%2C0.695%2C0.03%2C%2C-0.8049%2C%2C0.76%2C%2C%2C0.585%2C%2C0.185%2C%2C%2C0.72%2C0.0119%2C%2C0.93%2C%2C%2C1%2C%2C%2C0.1558%2C%2C%2C%2CmasterVolume%7C0%7C1%7Cfalse%3E8%7C2.9596%2C0.5%2C0.0039%2C0.0682%2C%2C0.2744%2C0.695%2C0.03%2C0.0094%2C-0.8049%2C%2C0.7158%2C%2C%2C0.5874%2C%2C0.185%2C0.0299%2C-0.0343%2C0.7487%2C0.0175%2C0.0056%2C0.9489%2C-0.0281%2C-0.0097%2C1%2C-0.0414%2C%2C0.1571%2C0.0066%2C%2C%2CmasterVolume%7C0%7C1%7Cfalse%3E-1%7C%7C0%7C1%7Cfalse

>>25654595
>>25654606
i'm fine just busy with life and not patient enough for the current stage of the process.

>>25653674
Is there any chance it will get a decent redesign, or will idiots like >>25653690 just go "waah waah anything that I don't agree with personally is just subjective opinion, even poor design".

>>25654681
Designs are locked forever.

>>25654681
no

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>>25654681
No, stop hurting me.

I've watched a lot of retards play this on youtube, and so many people just silently mash through the "your fonts are shit" message and go through the game with it looking like turd.
I think it's written too formally, people see "won't be optimal" and "install" and just tune out.
If there's really no way for the fonts to just work internally, then the message should be changed to something simple.
>The fonts used in this game are not set up.
>Please copy the files in this game's Font folder to the Font folder in the control panel and restart the game.

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>>25654700
This guy's got great ideas.

>>25654700
Is it possible to make a thing where people get made fun of for not installing the fonts? Like all of the hint signs call them a faggot?

>>25654700
Funny enough, the only time I've seen the fonts automatically install is on a mac.

>>25654681
no, go away. no one wants you here

>>25654681
>Is there any chance it will get a decent redesign

Not really, no. I suppose it's possible if the game is almost done and most of the current devs have cycled out and the then current ones are okay with it, maybe, since the mino change locking survey did say there could be a final review where they could be considered again once everything else is done, but even then that's super unlikely.


Our of curiosity, is there a specific thing that you'd want changed about it?

>>25654736
>I suppose it's possible if the game is almost done and most of the current devs have cycled out and the then current ones are okay with it, maybe, since the mino change locking survey did say there could be a final review where they could be considered again once everything else is done, but even then that's super unlikely.
that will never happen.
There is less than 0% chance of that happening.

>>25654688
that's not technically true, see

>>25654736
>since the mino change locking survey did say there could be a final review where they could be considered again once everything else is done

>>25654736
don't humor this moron

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>>25654734
Aw, don't be that harsh anon. We're all friends here.

>>25654736
Majora go get your herpes sores looked at.

>>25654681
There are two ways

a) you post a redesign
b) you shitpost hard enough

Pick one, preferably a.

Remember every major redesign has been decided on after someone posts their redesign and not before.

Designs are never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever fucking ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever changing ever

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QUICK, GIVE THORAXE YOUR SUPPORT SO HE CAN SAVE THIS BURNING THREAD

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>>25654724
>YOU'RE AT THE FIRST GYM AND YOU S T I L L HAVEN'T INSTALLED THE FONTS?
>DON'T YOU HAVE ANY SENSE OF SHAME? ANY SENSE OF TEXT QUALITY? ANY SENSE OF A E S T H E T I C S?
>IT TAKES LIKE 10 SECONDS YOU DIMWITT
>DON'T YOU CARE ABOUT A GENUINE POKEMON EXPERIENCE
>WELL THAT STARTS WITH GENUINE POKEMON FONTS
>I BET YOU'RE USING ONE OF THOSE LAME MENU BORDERS TOO
>PLAYING ON SOME CRT MONITOR HUH?
>WELL LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING BUDDY
>WITH FONTS LIKE THOSE, YOU'LL NEVER BE A MASTER, YOU'LL NEVER CATCH EM ALL
>YOU EXPECT TO SEE YOUR DREAMS WITHOUT ENOUGH DEDICATION TO OPEN TWO FOLDERS?
>THOUSANDS OF HOURS WERE POURED INTO MAKING THIS GAME LOOK GOOD
>AND YOU CANT TAKE 10 SECONDS TO KEEP UP YOUR END OF THE DEAL
>PATHETIC

>>25654842
GANBARE THORAXE

>>25654842
GANBATE THORAXE!

>>25654867
Can that be a thing? A Trenchula named Mr. Textsetti?

>>25654842
GANBARE THORAXE

>>25654842
\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/ \O/ <- dunky \o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/

>>25654897
Okay, I laughed.

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>>25654882
Why not pebblosa? They even look similar.
Somebody please draw this.

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>>25654925
Trenchula because pic related.

>>25654925
>minarac
>not digging with its drill
What the fuck?

>>25654546
if the thread is around tomorrow I think I want to pick one of my old pictures and redraw it

>>25655711
can you draw
>>25654867
>>25654882
please

>>25653901
I miss Moose ;__;

Even though I have him on Facebook lol

>>25655779
Found raptor

>>25655763
oh yes sure

>>25655788
Damnit I didn't meant to give it away
Sorry I'll leave

I feel bad since I don't have much time to contribute anymore.

>>25647182
Second Quaver theme is miles better than the first one.

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Speaking of music.
This is the first fully original song I've made in a year.
I should kill myself.
https://soundcloud.com/marcus-dewdney-1/team-aurum-event-scrapyard

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I doubt some anonymous user requests would be enough for some devs to consider but I really preferred the previous version of Vectol.2 over the latest version. In my opinion, the previous one looked more like newly-refined Vectol that appears more scorpion-like whereas the latest one just feels like "modified-Vectol" which makes it less-threatening. Outside of that, it's only design in sage dex that throws me off. Everything else in the sage dex is pretty solid.

>>25658476
Well, if you read above, you'll see how contentious even very minorr fixes to designs would be.

So not only is totally overhauling the design even more of a fraction of a fraction of a chance of happening, but it explicitly lost to the new design. If it was a vote that was ongoing, i'd advocate for your input to mean something even if it didn't apply as an actual vote, but the matter is pretty settled.

If there's a specific thing you have in mind that would just change the current a bit to make it better in your opinion, posting an edit showing that would be your best bet, but again, even that is not very likely to go anywhere.

>>25658251
[funk intensifies]

>>25658251
>https://soundcloud.com/marcus-dewdney-1/team-aurum-event-scrapyard
Can you make a song like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Acm2xl417wk&feature=iv&src_vid=iUUiiiN0yAc&annotation_id=annotation_242019 but for one of Sage's pokemon?

D
O
P
P
O
L
E
DOPPOLE

D
O
P
P
O
L
E
DOPPLE

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WHY DIDN'T YOU INSTALL THE FONTS?

>>25660169
YES

MR. TEXTSETTI

>>25653957
how did this fucking thing ever get voted in

>>25660240
It didnt

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Sedirrot

>>25653957
how much are you trying to fit into demo 2?

>>25660590
I think its supposed to be the first three gyms

>>25660169
Honestly put in a pixel art version of this as a cutscene when you make a new game and this will win Game of the Year 2023

>>25660590
An exact list of what areas are covered in 2.0:
>Dacapo Town
>Route 1
>Waterfall Cave (first area)
>Tremol Town
>Tremol Mines
>Downward Cave
>Route 2
>Quaver Town
>Quaver Gym

-Everything below this line is new to 2.0-

>Route 3
>Dreamdery Ranch
>Rustling Forest
>Route 4
>Legato Crossroads
>Legato Saloon
>Route 5
>Observatory (Exterior)
>Starry Cave (First area)
>Route 7
>Dronia City
>Route 8 (Land area)
>Route 9
>Dronia Scrapyard
>Dronia Gym
>Route 10
>Andante Bay
>Andante Gym

Plus all the regular houses and building interiors and shit.

Holy fuck, I remember back in 2012 when people said this project wouldn't last a month.

>>25662815
They told you man, they told you it'd last.

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using my PC instead of my laptop for the first time in ages and it's full of old old stuff

anything in particular that anyone wants to see?
>old failed designs (mostly mine)
>old fanart (some mine)
etc

>>25663856
post doppole bra

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>>25663856
>I was once this obnoxious
anyway here's what appears to be some sort of chunk of an old dex

>>25663884
ok I'll see what i have

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>>25663884
oh wait you mean the doppole bra, sorry I thought you were talking in fratboy language

I can't find any more doppole stuff anyway

>ghost chihuahua will never happen

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>>25664016
>there was a time when we had a normal/fighting capybara
>it wasn't even bara
>bara wasn't a thing then

>>25646036
the swampy parts to this are what drags the rest down, they need some movement or ripples or lilies or something to break up the solid blocks of colour.

>>25664037
>am I cute

>>25664037
That first form makes me want to kill myself

>>25664048
The route needs to commit to something or fuck off.

>>25646036
make a bog with planks over it or a big pond or something

there are a lot of things you could do to make it less bland when it's that size

>>25664048
It's not a swamp.

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>>25664016
> crystall skull fossil will never happen

>>25664303
Then what is it? Why is it there?

>>25664330
It's a wet forest, due to rain, leading into a swamp area.

>>25664360
I'm pretty sure that there is a name for stuff like that.

Wet forest isn't exactly a decent descriptor.

>>25664380
Okay... so?

>>25653674
You mean like the Caras?

>>25664391
So then maybe, the reason why you can't get a map to work, is because you have no concept and rule of cool is fucking horrible.

Commit to a concept and roll with it, otherwise you have just a bunch of puddles that people dont understand why they're there.

Either turn that part of the map into marshland that leads into the swamp area near the cycling road, or get rid of it.

>>25654518
>>25654535
>>25654553
>Megan
>When Sage doesn't even have Fairy type
No.
NO.

>>25664409
The cara's may not be particularly interesting but I don't think their designs are actually bad.

>>25664446
That's just it, though. Their designs are really bland, nothing about them stands out.

>>25664424
stop acting like it's being implemented

>>25664410
I think the map works fine, votes might agree with me they might not.
If they don't we'll keep working if they do then we're good for the demo.

>>25664467
I don't disagree, but if I had to go through the dex now and pick things for us to go back and fix design wise, i'd still limit it to stuff that's bad rather then just bland, like magnitogre or smashiary.

>>25664484
They don't agree with you. That map has been around for months. It is not alright and is a conceptual failure. At some point you need to accept that you have shit taste in this scenario and you need to compromise on your beliefs to get this game made.

The map is bland, has no concept, cannot commit to any one theme, and screams blandness. Just look at that map. Seriously, it's just varying colors of green. You walk in and feel like you're in a forest but then there is a bridge over some puddles. That's right, puddles. Why are there puddles in the middle of the map?

If it is supposed to be a swamp, why the fuck is it not connected to any other water source and in a valley to the connecting marshland? It doesn't make any sense and is there for the sake of looking cool.

Turn that middle area into a sunken marshland with some actual surf spots that can lead to some secret areas in the route south of Route 9 and maybe you'll have something everyone likes.

>>25664527
Didn't know you could read the future.
That's a pretty interesting skill.
So who is gonna win the american presidential elections?

>>25664573
trump

>>25664573
>Could read the future.
Stay focused Barkhad. That map has already been voted on has it not?

>>25664598
No?

>>25664616
Why the fuck not?

>>25664629
You should probably just calm the fuck down buddy.
Because it's not finalised for confirmation.

>>25664643
Well why isn't it finalized for confirmation?

>>25664662
Because it's got some minor shit that it could definitely use tweaking on.

>>25664469
It's a shit concept regardless

>>25664684
So then why are you ignoring feedback?

>>25664719
The silence on this is deafening. Shittastefags BTFO.

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>>25646437
>>25646452
>>25646454
>>25646464
When did starry cave become a generic crystal cave?

Wasn't it originally supposed to be a cave full of gloworms like pic related?

>>25665534
>glowworms
>no glowworm mons in the dex
...no?

>>25664048
We do have a few lily pads and water weed sprites, but the quality is questionable.

>>25665785
well it wouldn't have actual glowworms in it, it would just be inspired by it

>>25665534
Uh, it was never supposed to have gloworrms.

If you mean the idea that it's supposed to look like the starry night sky, that's still the goal, and we actually had a discussion in mapchat a day ago about how we are focusing a little too much on the crystal themeing and not enough about the space themeing.

>>25664643
wat. I think we we're under the impression it was.

>>25665862
Well your impression was wrong buddy.

>>25665534
The big problem with the stary cave is you can't look up. Its pokemon. We have just the walls to show sparkles on. When we do the lower levels, I think I can speak for everyone here, the water will reflect the ceiling covered in sparkles.

>>25665534
it was supposed to be crystals and gems that shined like stars.
Turned out the top down perspective wasn't very good at it, so instead we just emphasized the crystal part.

There will be really dark water with reflections of the crystals that look like a night sky though.

>>25665848
>>25665903
>>25665935
Oh, cool. I was worried for a moment that starry cave would become something generic, but it seems like you guys know what you are doing. Keep up the good work!

>>25665953
>generic
>fuckhuge crystals everywhere, all other caves we have made are just "caves"
Hang on what?

>>25664484
not the aggressive anon from earlier, but he does have a point. Your other maps here each have a unified theme and direction, whereas this one is a mishmash of clashing styles. It needs to commit to one theme and embrace it, instead of being a little of everything.

>>25666132
That's because it doesn't have an underlining theme anon. Our design notes were literally "make it wet"

>>25666234
Then get some better design notes.

Make it wet, well then make it wet instead of a few puddles. I know some of the devs are women, so ask them what the difference between damp, moist, and wet is and then go back and fix that middle part of the map.

>>25666905
>Water isn't wet
You're going full majora at this rate.

>>25646054
What's in the rock smash rocks?

>>25667009
There are none on that route.

>>25667009
>in
>rocks

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Left for real this time I swear.

>>25667045
Uhhhhhhhh how

>>25667029
What about in >>25646079

>>25667091
rocano

>>25646036
Here's an idea: separate the horizontal part of the map to the right of the scrapyard from the rest of route 9, and then make it an actual forest by putting gates between it and the other routes.

Now instead of having a fuck huge route with three different themes you get:
-a grassland route that leads to a forest and a scrapyard
-a forest that leads to a cycling road and route 10.

>>25667045
V important message to Dunk
The couple is back. Her leg is better!

>>25646036
other then what >>25664048 says, which can just be solved with improving those graphics, I think it's fine.

>>25667308
We're not changing the region map again sorry.

>>25667870
It's no different then the suggestion of turning the lighthouse into a dungeon, both are just adding one onto an existing map

that said, I'm not fond of the idea

>>25667415
?

What a shitty fakedex

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This was a thing one time. There was a quite successful independent "What Sage mons would you put on your team?" thread and I compiled all votes to assemble what mons were popular and which were forgotten.

>>25646036
The first thing that comes to mind as strange is that the only way to get to the scrapyard is over a flimsy looking wooden bridge. Changing it to something more sturdy looking like a concrete bridge would make more sense since it could better hold the weight of large loads of scrap. The second thing that doesn't make a lot of sense is that the path from the city to the scrapyard is fragmented patches of bare ground rather than a solid path that looks intentionally manmade. The third and final part that needs a logic to it is the boggy swampy part. Since its the only route to another town there needs to be something like planks over the water or an obvious path that makes it look like the people of these towns have made an attempt to start connecting them.

>>25645951
Looks good, when will the next demo be out, and can I play it on my phone?

>>25654700
I think its because nobody actually cares about the fonts besides autists. If its legible as it is the ugly fonts serve the purpose well enough.

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>>25672323
For whatever reason, there was a gravel path or road (cant remember which exactly) that was scrapped. I couldn't tell you why.
Anyway, now there is a road (for vehicles) that leads to the scrapyard, but the player doesn't go along that path.
It's where the ET makes their getaway after the event.

I'd rather the road or gravel path return, but whatever.

>>25672449
You're trying to bait Mr. Textsetti aren't you anon?

>>25672474
Will it go straight from the route 9 as is with the concrete sidewalk looking thing to the paved road at the top of the scrapyard? The people working on these two maps need to get that sorted out so its consistent one way or another, either a road on both or the concrete path on both.
Is there a similarly inaccessible road in the Dronia map that leads to the blocked off road in the scrapyard? I feel what would bring the maps to the next level is if they had logical connections like that. Easier said than done, but adding things like that should be something kept in the back of mappers minds for when its convenient to do.

>>25672581
>>25672474
It's going to be a cement path, like on 9's end, it just hasn't been edited to match on the scrapyard's end, or of it has, an image hasn't been made of it.

>>25672581
The road on the bottom left technically leads nowhere but is implied to go to dronia.
AFAIK there arent any roads in dronia that lead to nowhere, though there doesn't need to be.

The highway on Unova Rt 4 doesn't have a counterpart in Castelia or any other nearby cities.

>>25672606
That's great. Its good to know the map guys are keeping those things in mind.

>>25672718
Major Autism would't let us overlook them even if we tried

>>25672769
Major autism is too busy with his mouth herpes.

>>25672769
The king of autists is actually OCD if I remember correctly from my interactions with him on skype in The Long Ago Time. Working on a group project must be like hell for him and everyone else

>>25672829
It's hell for everyone. People have quit because of him.

>>25672829
>Working on a group project must be like hell for him and everyone else
Can confirm

>>25672930
>things that never happened

>>25672959
>who is Tileanon

>>25673036
Somebody who left before you guys even split off from /vp/, and not because of majora?

I personally wouldn't quit because of majora. I couldn't live knowing that my vote constantly opposing his would be lost.Rather odd that hes so often in the minority.

>>25664314
F

The average autist is honestly way worse than majora. He's frustrating and slow but easy to predict and isn't rude. I left the project because of autists using main chats to bitch at eachother for hours on end instead of PMs making it hard to discuss anything. How can people even bitch for 4 hours straight is beyond me.

>>25673167
>I left the project

And you are?

>>25673218
Dunky

>>25673103
No, he was with the project for a while before he left because of majora.

>>25673326
Bullshit. Dunky was one of the people arguing.

>>25673218
I wrote the plot outline. Doubt it's even relevent to the plot anymore though with how much plotchat hated it. inb4 original creator of x here ect.

>>25673395
>>25673103
>>25673036
he left before the split, then came back after the split, then quit because majora said something in frustration to him that was rude

majora was legitimately sorry that he caused him to quit and was super upset about it for a while

>>25673413
the way plot was handled after we left 4chan was atrocious

>hey let's abandon the plot outline we voted in and spent 8 months refining and voting on for no reason just because we left 4chan and discuss new ways to do plot and to start over

>>25673445
I love sage sunday. When the mask goes back on, everyone's salt comes flowing out.

>>25673592
No one has any courage to say it to anyone's face do they? Where are the adults? Why are so many of the devs children?

>>25673445
I understand why they scrapped it beyond them just not liking the direction my outline would take it. There were too many cooks in the kitchen so to speak and it was too hard to make progress. I feel the process itself was flawed much more so than the outline itself was but if you're going to completely change the approach you take for a creative thing like this it makes sense just to scrap it and start over. I also feel that the outline was losing some of its charm in the editing process since details were being changed individually rather than in batches. If writers had just submitted batches of edits to be chosen from maybe we could have made progress back then, but that wasn't really in the cards.

>>25673622
Majora does, which is part of why he and dunky get/got shit; they aren't afraid to call people out on bullshit

but both are also just stubborn controlling pains in the ass, which is a bigger part of why they got flak

>>25665903
>The big problem with the stary cave is you can't look up
What if the ceiling is reflected in puddles?

>>25673880
That's the idea, sorta; there will be a chamber with a large lake that will do that. Maybe adding puddles in the other chamber too could help too, good idea.

So when's the ETA release date?

2020?

>>25674328
There isnt one. There will never be one.
It'll be ready when it's ready

>>25673622
Most iconoclasts are immediately reduced to "just another retard" with an ad majora or ad dunky attack. It's very hard to have unpopular opinions in the project.

Do you anons plan on making the next Sage Sunday a bunch of majora/dunky drama or will it actually be worth making one?

So as someone who sorta followed this for a month when the first demo came out, lost interest, but has recently regained it - is there like a summary of what's happened since then ?

Or at least one detailing the drama? All the references to namefags and former members and a temporary split from /vp/ has me curious and confused.

>>25675134
Sage Sunday isn't for drama discussion

>>25675160
Would there be any time I could ask for a summary then?

>>25675074
>It's very hard to have unpopular opinions in the project.
The hell? It's very easy, I have them all the time and bitch and moan constantly.
Usually about plot stuff (starry cave, muh "snow" tiles).
Hell, one of my unpopular opinions became a meme (ziplines).

Maybe you should stop being a little bitch baby and learn to take it when people disagree with you.