Pokken Tournament

Another thread?

The 6 slots are for DLC I assume.

>>25637057
I haven't unlocked Mewtwo or Shadow Mewtwo yet.

Also I wouldn't get too hopeful for DLC characters. The only bamco developed game to get character DLC was smash, and there's reasons for that far beyond their control.

We already have a general over at /vg/.
This is a good OP though

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>>25636934
Weavile main masterrace reporting in
Anyone else play deviantart's favorite?

Gardevoir main, friends play blaziken and garchomp, how the fuck do I keep em off my dick?

>>135676248
>>135676248

But we're over here discussing.

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>>25637096
>We already have a general over at /vg/

I was kind of hoping that this OP would rub off on them, so I linked this thread here.

Nobody knows how to make a good OP any more.

>>25637115
Insider tip:
Change your controller layout so that your Weak Attack button is reachable while holding your Pokemon Attack button so you can still fend off your opponents while charging Moon Beam.

Also, you can start charging Moon Beam at any time and hitting with it does an insane amount of damage and an extremely useful amount of chip damage.

>>25637136
I can start charging moon blast using other shit? Holy shit that's awesome, I thought I had to have used an A move first.

>>25637168
Nope!

In fact, this goes for a LOT of shit, like Braixen's Sunny Day and Gengar's poison shit and Pikachu's uppercut.

In fact, you can start charging it while blocking, while being hit, doesn't fucking matter as long as you're holding the button.

So if there's a jump button does pushing up take you out of 2d?

>>25637264
2D mode has high stance and low stance attacks in addition to jumps.

>Now with an OP that makes it another shitty general with a bunch of unnecessary shit at the top instead of a nice discussion thread

ftfy

Don't mind me, I just trying to find out who people are main.
http://strawpoll.me/7120224

>>25637419
Holy typos.
*I'm trying to find out who people are maining.

Pikachu main reporting in.

Shadow Mewtwo is a dick. I guess it wouldn't be as much of a problem if the AI the game has you beat on weren't incompetent.

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I thought I was gonna be a Suicune main, but then magical girl stole my heart.

>>25636934
>Pikachu Libre is female

>>25640165
How did you find out?

>>25640352
heart shaped tail

Finally hit SLv. 100 with Garchomp after using nothing but him for the last two days. Wasn't intending to main him but his moveset is so fun I decided to stick with him.

As for supports, I'm really digging Magneton/Quagsire. Quagsire's attack will make most people hug their shields which make them easy targets for grabs and Magneton is for dealing with jumping annoyances like Weavile and Charizard.

Probably going to do Chandelure next.

>Grab an opponent that's blocking
>LOLNOPE they're countering now and blow you the fuck out
How? Is this even possible? Does the AI just ignore the triange? Is it literally cheating, or can I do this too?

>>25640629
With some practice, I'm sure you'd be able to do the same thing. Well, practice, fast fingers and a bit of luck.

>>25637077
Tekken Tag Tournament 2 has DLC characters also.

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>>25640629
Yeah I don't really get how this works either.
>opponent shields
>grab them
>the second I turn green they're suddenly red and I get BTFO

What exactly is happening? Am I to understand that it's just possible to switch that quickly from shield to a counter?

If that were the case, I would think they would turn blue.

>>25637107
i didnt realise how girl like weavile is until i saw its victory poses.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnOwUccAO5Q

>yfw

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>Game is mechanically shallow to others fighters I play
>Everyone online is a literal child and can barely do autopilot combos
>Nobody playing locally
Not even pokemon can carry this for me.

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>>25641219
>magikarp as dlc character
>the strategy is to get beaten up a lot and evolve into gyarados
>commence wrecking shit up

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>>25641219
> Mfw

>completely destroy a dude on first round perfecting his ass
>feel a little guilty
>go a little easy on him next round
>he's clearly salty as fuck walling me and everything
As hilarious as that shit was, it's the last time I ever go being nice, fuck getting walled

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post 'em

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>>25641219

Guys, I can't decide who to main for the single player mode! Machamp and Pikachu Libre are both so fucking awesome.They sort of strike me as being the Zangief and Cammy of this game. And I fucking love Zangief and Cammy. I know I can switch my partner any time I want, but my autism won't allow it.

>>25640776
Grabs are beaten by normal attacks, not counters.

Attacks (red) beat grabs (green) and lose to counters (blue)

Are the amiibo bonuses tied to DRM in some way? Or can I just changed the clock and get more?

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Where my adorable paws Lucario bros at?

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>>25641219
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyxkhM2Joqg

THIS SUMMER.

Machamp's fucking fingers

Any good gengar combos? I feel like I'm doing nothing but air charging will o wisp, using the dive kick combo, and hypnosis into back throw. Do I need anything else?

Guys this game is really fun but I just can't get past the way it looks. The character models and animations are amazing, but the backgrounds are terrible and the game just looks overall looks blurry, for lack of a better word. Does anyone know what resolution it is? I know it's 1080 but it's clearly upscaled.

Braixen's fucking hips
Braixen's fucking legs
Braixen's fucking finishing move
Fucking Braixen

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Who's on Team Landshark? Fins up!
I'm loving his guy. The earthbender combat combined with dragon claws and energy blades is amazing. I love Dig, and it's cool that you can jump out and use the aerial X dorsal fin spin for the same amount of damage as a mixup. Sand Tomb is way too much fun.

>>25644812
720p
the added blur is to hide the lack of anti-aliasing

>>25644843
Oh god, but it would look so much better without it, even with no aliasing.

>>25636934
What does Shadow Mewtwo's miracle eye do, he just,stands there after using it and he self damage while using it as well

>>25644792
Down X, X, R cancel, up X.

Or Forward Z, Y, Forward B, X, X

Someone help with Garchomps final combo

I can do the whole thing perfectly up until I have to start changing after the mid-air hits. The game doesn't register my charge until a split second after the dojo decides to reset the positioning.

>>25644792
Also after countering using down X is a good combo.

>>25644938
I'm in the exact same spot

>>25637057
they said it won't have any but fuck me it needs it
dead within a month otherwise

>>25644938
I was struggling with this one as well. There doesn't seem to be enough time for it to charge up.

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>>25641219

Why is this song so fucking good

It's SO fucking good and it's dedicated to fucking Magikarp

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>>25644938
>>25644953
Every time I try to use the Victini assist, it goes back to the beginning. What's the significance of the "~"? I believe the sequence is "Y ~ ^ + X"

>>25644967
You have to push Lucario back a bit further so when you hit the sequence he bounces off the wall. You need that bounce to get the combo started.

>>25644967
That's the fifth combo I believe, knock him up, up X as he hits the wall then activate victini, then time the jump for the rest of the combo

>>25644886
I guess they were trying to keep it similar to the arcade version.

>>25644956
>>25644953
Okay, I just got it. Basically you NEED Lucario at maximum height from EVERY blow in order for you to have enough time to have your charge input to register while you're in air otherwise the dojo resets. As soon as you hit the up + y, do the dash x 3 + x input and immediately forward jump, y + x (hold) and release the moment you land. The timing is super fucking precise but it can be done.

>>25645027
Got it. Thanks anon.

>>25645027
I'll give it a shot with results, it's such a bitch to do makes me wonder how practical it is to use online.

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>>25637107
Fellow Weavile main.

Picked him up because I've been using him competitively in Pokemon since Diamond version, and he's always been great. Now he's in Pokken and he's great here too. I don't really like the cuteness they're playing up for the game but it doesn't bother me too much. His combo game is great, and his icicle stand thing and agility are so much fun.

>>25644792
Google Pokken Arena.

how is sceptile?

How do people handle Suicune?
His projectile game combined with his ice shield make him a pain in the ass.

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>>25644124

Reporting

>>25645230
counter his counter. suicune is a bitch though

is chandelure basically the peacock of pokken?

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>>25636934
>1 player

>>25645358
No, that's Gardevoir

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>>25645358
I'm not sure what you mean by "peacock"... but yes.

>>25645622
He's referring to Skullgirls.

>>25645514
I feel like Chandy's zone game is better than Gardevoirs but I've barely run into Gards so.

>>25645622
Why are Chandelure and Gengar the only ones with this kinda taunt?
Garchomp's isn't really a taunt as much as it is an extra attack... but that's it, they're the only ones that have that extra feature.

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>like pokemon
>bad at fighting games
>play pokken anyway

I don't know if the game is worth buying yet.

Is there any multiplayer on the same console like splitscreen or with the gamepad?

What is singleplayer like?

>>25646921
The singleplayer is enjoyable, not too hard and not too easy (red league and up at least). The local multiplayer isnt too great, if you want to do two players on the same console you have to have one person play on the TV and the other plays on the gamepad, theres also a drop in fps but if you dont mind playing on the gamepad it isnt too bad. Local multiplayer on two diffrent consoles is very good however.

>>25645027
>>25644840
Thanks. I'm still working on the fifth combo now but I pulled off all the others. This game is rapidly turning Garchomp from "never used one, but a pretty cool guy" to "how quickly can I breed a flawless Rough Skin Chomp?" Odd since Dragon and Ground are my two of my three favorite types.

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>>25647463
Dropped my pic

>>25646977
>two different consoles needed for local fucking two player to not drop fps
Truly, this is the worst system Nintendo has ever produced. The fucking Gamecube did 4 players. Fuck.

>>25647480
The drop in frames isn't even noticeable when you're actually fucking playing.

>>25636934
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c19G5F1t0AU
I swear the tier list are different for anyone.

>>25640006
>girl
Braxien are 75% male. that there is a trap

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Justin enjoys Pokken a lot

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Gardevoir Wizard reporting in

>>25647717
Humans are 51% female. we are all traps

>>25647793
That is extremely creepy what the fuck how is he allowed near kids

>>25647480
Literally doesn't even matter, and if you believe lowered framerate = dropped inputs then you're a special breed of retard.

I don't hear much about Charizard and Lucario

Are they any good?

Give me the tier list bros.

Wreck my fun I'm having with Pikachu.

>>25647688
>shadow mewtwo in S rank
>Machamp in E rank
???

>>25647688
>weavile in S

dismissed

>AI can block, counter during my combos
>I cant do shit during theirs

>Grab AI that's blocking
>LOL COUNTER
How
Does the AI literally cheat or is there just some "have your shield out but you're actually countering lol" tech I'm missing? I'm certain the AI ignores the triangle.

>get hit against wall
>enemy gets free 50210405120 hits in now

>>25647900
The AI cheats. They ignore the triangle, invincibility frames and don't get stuck in combos. It's been confirmed by many players that the AI does shit the player can't

>>25647891
This is a Namco fighter, the AI reads your input and responds frame-perfectly and the further you crank up the difficulty the more they do so.
That said, everything they do is theoretically doable by a player. You can stop yourself from committing to counters and grabs by hitting R.

>>25647839
https://rankedboost.com/pokken-tournament-tier-list/
Good thing your fun won't be wrecked. Also, WAIFUFAGS BTFO

>>25647928
Fucking Shadow Mewtwo, such a meme roster entry

>>25647891
>AI can block, counter during my combos
It's not a combo if your opponent can act during it.

>Grab AI that's blocking
>LOL COUNTER
This has never happened to me. Grab should beat both guard and counter. Maybe you're not fast enough?

>do the combo dojo to learn combos
>go into free training, set dummy to block after first hit
>some of the combos are apparently not really combos because the enemy can actually react and block during them

well that's dumb. Sure it might work against slow people and all but in my mind a combo means the enemy can not stop it midway

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>pokken threads full of people who have never played a fighting game in their lives

>>25647962
Which combos in particular?

>>25647972
ive played smash

>>25647975
lol

>>25647974
I'd have to look up exactly which it was again, was last night, but I definitely remember this being the case for at least 2 with Weavile

>>25647974
Not him but Machamp's Forward Light, the third hit isn't a true combo.

>>25644828
Goddamn all of this.

My attention keeps getting drawn to the legs in every animation I didn't even notice she blushes when she closes her eyes until earlier today.

Damn thighs even look like they have actual mass when she sways, someone on the team was a thigh man and it shows.

>>25648006
Why is Braixen so sexy and tsun

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>>25647688
>Garchomp that low
Really?

What about the very tips of the legs

>>25647975
heh

How do I get to the highest rank online

This is going to be so damn fun when I get it in a year

>>25648022
Keep playing online and winning, duh.

>>25648027
How do I win every match

>>25648011
I don't know, but I'm glad this got through. TPC/Gamefreak would never do shit like this.

I was going to try out like half the cast but I've only been playing Braixen and I may have a problem.

I just got this game

What do I do? I did the basic trainings but I'm 90% sure I'm not ready for online. I can only barely remember what the fuck I'm doing in battle and I'm not even 100% set on which Pokemon I want to main. Should I do advanced training against that shitty Lucario who doesn't even fight back? Should I do the Ferrum League or fight single battle CPUs? What stuff contributes to win/loss %? I don't want to play with my favourite and end up with it having the lowest win percentage just because I play with it the most.

Also how do I unlock stages/avatar gear? Any general starting tips? I heard I can do shit with amiibos, do Smash ones count? How do I use them and what do I get?I refuse to use the Shadow Mewtwo card

Can I buy Pokken on the e-store or do I have to GO OUTSIDE or wait a mail delivery?

>>25648031
Hit your opponent until they die, be on the right side of the attack triangle.

>>25648038
Why not go through the move and combo dojo with every pokemon, then fight the hard CPU with those you like for a little bit?

>>25648038
>I don't want to play with my favourite and end up with it having the lowest win percentage just because I play with it the most.

Disregard statistics, play what you what. Let your skill speak for itself when you get it.

The master has failed more than the novice has ever tried.

>>25648044
Yes, you can buy it on the eShop, you could have easily fucking looked that up.

>>25648038
Play ferrum league, you'll unlock more gear, stages, support pokemon, and you'll be able to get into the game.

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>>25648055
I did look it up though, by asking you guys. I'd have booted up my Wii U but it literally hasn't been turned on since Pikmin 3 and would have taken longer to update.

Thanks Anon-senpai.

>>25647688
Are Charizard and Chandelure really that good? Garchomp and Suicune really that bad?

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Are people too busy playing to discuss?

>>25648509
He looks tough as nails m8

is this cross-region? will I be forced to fight japs online?

>>25648893
People in the Americas region have much worse internet than the Japanese do in my experience

>>25648893
yeah. In my case I get a lot of battles around my area and not in another country though. Not sure if this is the usual or not

>>25648903
Latency is a thing, anon.

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>>25648034
>TPC/Gamefreak would never do shit like this
Sure they would. If they gave Mega Lopunny torn stockings (or at least fur that looks like it) I believe them capable of any amount of lewdness.

Also, Lopunny DLC when?

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Any Blaziken tips? I feel like the best options in duel phase are a little too high-risk?
I've been using mostly Garchomp and loving it, but I'm hearing some say he's not considered that good. I'm wondering what glaring hole in going to get reamed in that I haven't found yet. He's got pretty good movement and damage output, with some cool mixups.

Anyone got any tips for playing Machamp? Does he have any attacks that are safe on shield in duel phase?

>>25650387
Nah, Garchomps pretty good. His Dig attack completely fucks up zoners which are all the rage on ranked nowadays.

The only Blaziken tip I can't give you is to watch out not too spam it's fire moves (flare blitz, flame-infused brave bird, flamethrower etc) too much, since they all deal recoil damage.

>>25650653
Karate Chop can literally slice through any projectile in the duel phase.

Abuse the forward dash Cross Chop for the same reason.

Have Bulk Up up at all times.

>>25650653
His low x attack lauches in duel phase and makes for a great combo, either into the jump attack that punches a few times into a heavy slam or catch them in a close combat as they fall from the launch

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>>25650654
I love Dig, I'm just afraid of it being a little predictable. I try to mix it up with cancels and jumps into aerial attacks from underground. Overall he seems relatively quick and very powerful. Some decent combos and setups, too. Sand Tomb and Stone Edge are nasty. I can't see him being that bad and the initial word was positive, but that so-called "tier list" people are pushing around ranks him low.

>>25650803
That one tier list people have been posting is completely garbage.

Honestly it doesn't make much sense to try to create a tier list now when everything seems more or less balanced and we don't have much tournament results to go off.

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My win rate is dropping today like mad and it's really pissing me off. I keep getting pushed against the wall and combo'd, and it's infuriating.

And now i just lost to a fucking Chandlure spammer. I was at a 70% win rate yesterday, and now it's down to 60%. How the fuck do I get good against these faggots?

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>>25651058
I agree. The devs have been keeping up on things actively since the arcade release and at first glance things seem pretty even. No one stands out as gutted or disadvantaged, and they've all got their unique traits.

I'm personally loving my earthbender landshark dragon.

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>>25651058
I know right? It's a game, play with who you like, git gud, tiers are for queers.

>>25647972
I have but I was always bad at them.

Machamp main Here, any combos other than the combo dojo 5?

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Why do people keep saying that the graphics look blurry? I had occasion to play the game for the first time today and both the characters and the stages looked crisp as fuck.

Also, Suicune fucking rocks.

>>25651116
Use a better character. Gardevoir is bottom tier despite how fun she is to use.

>>25651451
>tier
Fuck off. There is no tier list in Pokken yet.

>>25651475
>game's been out in Japan for months now
>"DUR HUR THERE'S NO TIERS YET"

keep believing that.

>>25651487
Why do you faggots need everything lumped into tiers? It's obnoxious.

>>25651410
The actual gameplay looks great and is visually impressive despite the tech limitations, but many stages look like shit. The scenery is full of static pokemon that just wobble back and forth with no actual animations, just look at the Tyrantrum in the background of Dragon's Nest, he looks like a fucking parade float.

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Why are there absolutely no color alts at all? isn't this supposed to be a fighting game? is there any hope of a patch that adds color alts?

>>25651487
Yeah, and it went through numerous balance patches before it arrived at Wii U. The most actual version isn't even 2 months old. That's not to mention it didn't even have all of the characters.

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>>25647804
She shouldn't have dressed up as Serena.
It's every land beast's fantasy no matter the age.

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>>25651512
It's a bit of a shame considering how wild Tekken games usually go with customization options, but it's probably because The Pokemon Company are pretty autistic about people sullying the designs of their Pokemon. It's the same reason color alts in Smash (with a few exceptions) are usually very limited, same with Pac Man and Sonic.

>>25651508
I feel some stages were done better than the rest. Blue Dome and Phos Volcano look pretty great, but Dragon's Nest is just an eyesore with that fucking Tyrantrum and Noivern. Which is a shame since the music track that plays at this stage is Elder God tier.

>>25651557
Yeah, dunno why TPC is so damn protective of their Pokemon, the amiibo pokemon don't even have their sounds in Mario Maker.

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>>25651567
>Blue Dome
>tfw that's the only way I'll ever see my favorite Pokemon in Pokken

>>25651557
Then use the shiny pokemon from when you fight a mirror match, or instead of changing the colors, just add accesories like jigglypuff in smash.
It's not that hard, they could seriously have added something.

how to use chandelure's minimize?

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>tfw your bro could have easily made it
>he didn't
D-DLC, r-right?

>>25651615
TCP does not allow shinies as skins to be used

>>25651688
TPC* fuck

>>25651688
What's the reasoning behind that?
Not even in smash?, that's really retarded

>>25651688
Why not?

>>25651596
The huge Wailord swimming towards the player is one of the best parts of that stage desu

So anyone else watching the final top 8 in the pokken tournament on twitch?

>>25651116
versus chandelure, get into duel phase as soon as possible. use psychic and future sight and force them to block, while also blocking their laser. you can also use your back-Y for some quick poke.

>>25651706
>>25651709
Because they're supposed to be rare as fuck, at least that's what TPC thinks

>>25651721
link?

>>25651794
.tv/smashstudios

Got the game on release but only got the chance to try it out today. I'm loving it, it feels extremely intuitive. Been broing it up with Gengar.

I do question the levelling system though. Does your Pokemon's stats affect local/online play? What if I'm playing casually with my levelled Gengar and the person I'm playing with picks a Pokemon I haven't levelled at all. Will I just wreck them or do levels only enter into single player?

>>25651828
it doesn't affect online play

>>25651828
No, and the stats in singeplayer hardly make a difference

>>25651828
Stats don't apply in Ranked, only in Free battles (or so I've heard) and against CPUs (and in local if you choose to enable them). Plus, the actual stat boosts are extremely miniscule, maxed out attack is something like 7 extra damage on most combos.

>>25636934
http://smashboards.com/threads/into-the-woods-the-sceptile-social.433397/
I feel sad. People on Smashboards have already been saying that Sceptile is a Low Tier character. Is he really that bad? I thought he would at least be Mid Tier.

>>25651845
>>25651852
>>25651861
Thanks, was worried I would have to level all characters before I could attempt online or something like that. It's nice they let you reassign them too. I trust there's an option to enable/disable them on local?

>>25651917
Yes

>>25651803
jesus christ that suicune was just pure cancer as a suicune main this pleases me greatly

>>25647928
>Gengar and Chandelure both Tier 1/God tier
Fucking yes.

Who else /ghost/ here?

>>25651940
yup, he just spammed range shit

if pikachu player was chandelure instead he would have out-rangespammed him easily

>>25651955
and garchomp would just straight fuck his gay water arrow spamming shit up

how was the rest of the torunament by the way? only managed to catch the finals

>>25651878
>Tier
Who fucking cares what a group of retards say about your main?

Let's do this again.
Pick your 4 DLC additions!

For me:
Hitmonlee
Pangoro
Electabuzz
Heracross

>>25651734
So all the colors in smash that have never been seen before are less rare than observed shinies?

>>25652049
Swampert, Mienshao, Scyther, Tyranitar

>>25652049
Heracross
Kabutops
Wailord
Golurk

>>25652049
Hitmontop
Scyther
Lopunny
Regirock

so how do i play garde well ? atm im just keeping my distance by spamming projectiles

>>25652049
Spinda (drunken fist)
Golurk (inspired by the Jacks' moveset (from Tekken), it would fit perfectly)
Armaldo
Porygon-Z

>>25651878
after seeing that S-ranked Japanese Sceptile player I can't take anyone who places him anywhere below high seriously

>>25652199
Wouldn't Golurk be too big for Pokken? He's like twice as high as the biggest character currently in the roster.

>>25652198
Abuse Calm Mind

Store Power is stupid strong at +2 but you need to make sure you don't waste it on a block

I'm trying to find out how to register or qualify for the pokken championship in Germany, but I can only find the info that there is a cup in Germany during May and nothing else

>>25652258
which one is store power again ?

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>bronies

Thank goodness that Suicune won, Pokken would never be able to recover from that.

>>25652258
Using it on block isn't actually that terrible an idea. It's easy to charge up again and it pushes people pretty damn far, so you can reset back to long range like you want

>>25652366
Wait, the brony wasn't playing Suicune? But it's by far the most MLP like of the roster.

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>shofu likes using the Cubone support
>now every twitch shitter tries to copy him
it's not that good people
arguably detrimental to some characters, zoners in particular

what is your online experience regarding pokemon variety?

i played about 70 battles

never encountered a chandelure player
only one sceptile so far

garchomp was probably the most common

>>25652528
weird cause chandelure is S tier

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I swear gardevoir is the cutes thing I've seen I pokken has of now. I want to bear hug it.

I said I wasn't going to use R. Pika but, goddamnit that wild charge stunner. Recoil be damned.

>>25652528
70 battles in and they've been pretty varied. Gardefags are slightly more common than the rest and I haven't seen many regular Mewtwos (which makes sense considering you need to slug through the campaign for a few hours to unlock him).

>>25644840
>Up Y, Y, Y, Y
I'm a fucking Garchomp expert.

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We have any Sceptile mains in here?

Any good ones? Because I am not one of them.

>>25652528
>>25652560
Most people playing don't really care or know of tiers, I'm guessing a lot of them don't see the appeal of Chandelure I DON'T GET IT THOUGH HE'S SO CUTE CUTEEEEEE LOOK >>25645622

>>25652432
Suicune's a dog.

>>25652845
Clearly walking on 4 legs makes something a horse

pretty sure the bronies would pick gardevoir and braixen since they're out and out tasteless waifufags

>>25647688
holy shit what fucking music is this

>>25653029
No idea just wanted to post that to see how people would react.

When does the button reading start coming into effect? Just want to know so I can prepare myself mentally for it instead of slamming my controller against the wall.

>>25645736
Because ghost-types are cheeky fuckers by nature.

>>25637419
I expected Braixen to be the second most after Weavile actually

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>>25644124
I'm shit tho

>>25643265
Cammy not Mika?

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>>25651567
>>25651508
>those background characters

>>25652049
Swampert, Chesnaught, Gallade, Nidoking
Also, Milotic and Cherim as Support Pokemon

What is the point of Taunt on Weavile?

>>25641262
>game is mechanically shallow to other fighters I play
>game is mechanically shallow
>mechanically shallow
>shallow

>>25654913
Edgy bad boy move.

Are the pokemon voices in japanese or what? Haven,t seen the anime since Ruby era, so I don,t know if they have changed the voices to some Pokemon.

All Gardevoir says is "sup".

Is there any way to change the pokemon language? In the menu you can only change Charlotte Aulin to Japanese or English...

>>25655535
The Pokemon really only spam their names in the anime.
There are no different Pokemon sounds regardless of your language setting.
A Pikachu just sounds the same in every language.

>>25655535
They're in Japanese
Gardevoir's Japanese name is Sirnight (サーナイト/saanaito) so what you're hearing is the "saa" part of her name

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>>25651508
>the spoink, pignite and trainer on the trampoline in the training gym
>whirlipede in the gym
>altaria in the 5 fucking stages they show up in

Where are people even getting tiers from?

>>25655770
>the spoink, pignite and trainer on the trampoline in the training gym
That one is so bad it's good. The physics make no sense and the trainer kind of looks like a penguin. It's all kinds of retarded and I love it.

>>25647688
> Tiers

Jesus, can't we just have fun without autiersum?

>>25652049
Grappler style Chesnaught
Scrafty as the tricky dance fighter
Medicham as a middle ground zoner/melee type
Seviper as a high speed melee type
Missingno as a meme secret boss that you get as a package with the rest so people will buy it in droves

>>25655952
>Missingno as a meme secret boss

Unfortunately they have too much self-respect for this, even though it would make like 3 million extra sales.

>>25655952
I think that if MissingNo was to be included, it would act a lot like double from skullgirls

as in, transforming into other pokemon to use their attacks.

>>25636934
>Naruto Shippuden series made by the same developer.

Cyberconnect did NOT make pokken you fucking retard.

>>25655535
Nope enjoy the superior Japanese audio.

>>25647688
>R. Pika only in B
fake

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So, is the game fun?
Is it hard to master?
Is Charizard fun to play?

Does anyone have a gif of the whirlipede on the treadmill

>>25656399
lmao I noticed that in one of my videos. Love that little fucker. He's really putting in work

>>25656281
Seconded, Charizard is one of my favorite pokemon, even if Gen 1 is my least favorite.

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>Garchomp says "Get over here" when left idle

I've somehow only played as Blaziken. I really enjoy it, and will probably stay as my main since i've already put in near 400 matches (overall), but i really need to get myself to try out some other characters.

>>25656061
I think he means Bandai Namco's involvement, but that's the publisher in the States.

>>25656750
I know that feel, except with Gardevoir. I picked her because her moveset looked neat and I never bothered trying anyone else out.

>>25656661
No it doesn't. Does it?

>>25656779
It sounds like it, and maybe it is, but because the pokemon VAs are the same as the Japanese version I want to say it just sounds like it and your brain hears "Get over hear".

>>25656772
Yeah i picked Blaziken since he was the one that i was most initially excited about. Now i just don't have the heart to quit him.

I just don't get how online works in this game.

It plays entirely different from even the hardest cpu and even the online of most other fighters. It's basically just purposely throwing out unsafe moves in hopes it'll bait something out of your opponent you can exploit. Most games you don't bait, you wait for a whiff or mistake then punish.

>>25652049
Deoxys
Samurott
Meloetta
Genesect

>>25656547
>>25656281
Charizard hits like a brick shithouse but it's pretty slow. Gonna have to utilize the fact that it can fly to overcome zoners.

>>25656904
No offense but I hope you never influence any Pokemon games ever.

>>25652049
Supportmons

Meowstic M and F: M puts up Light Screen that bounces projectiles back, F fires psybeams

Snorlax and Slurpuff: Snorlax moves forward very slowly, but lasts for several seconds. If it catches up to opponent it uses a throw. Forces opponent to stay on the move. Slurpuff hands out pokepuffs for mid size heal and Def buff

Zangoose and Seviper: Zang is a low power high number of hits slash combo. Damage is mediocre but if it connects on a blocking opponent it'll hit enough times their shield is pretty much gone when you follow up. Seviper is a counter ala Magikarp, interrupts opponent's combo and stuns using Glare

Going to get this game within the next month or so. Im probably going to main Chandelure, is she any good?

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>Tried playing as Lucario
>Actually like his playstyle
I don't know how to feel.

>>25656966
None taken. I was thinking that having a transition between forms would not only make for interesting mechanics, but would also look good in motion.

>>25657022

He's the Ryu of Pokken

I don't own a wii U. Is there a Wii U+Pokken bundle out or nah. My budget is $400.

>>25657033
Now I feel even worse!

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>>25656779
>>25656661
It's basically saying its Japanese name, Gablias. BUT "GaaAAAABLIaaa" does kinda sound like the famous line.

>>25657041
Him being the Ryu isn't a bad thing. He's solid, well-rounded and has a fair bit of tech. That said, you're not going to get wild or crazy out of him. Just dependable stuff you can always judge how it'll work.

>>25657041

A game having a Ryu is a good thing. It means they're a solid character whose mechanics are simple enough that you can branch off to someone else after him if you want.

>>25657021
Game's best zoner

>>25657035

You can get a WiiU refurbished (it's actually not, it just means resold, aka the distributor sold it back to Nintendo due to unsold units) from Nintendo's website for 200.

>>25657090
I feel like a WW2 soldier storming the beaches of Normandy when going up against that flaming glass chucklefuck.

>>25647793
It's not that creepy, I mean, it's very close, like big brother/dad like. I guess it's not objectively creepy, just weird in comparison to justin and the girl.

>>25647972
Pokken players need to get good. Everyone online is falling for Street Fighter shenanigans and it's hilarious.

>>25657674
>Wake up Burst Attack
>Works every time

This is going to bite me in the ass later when I start fighting good people.

>>25657091
And how long would it take to arrive at my house vs. Immediately picking it up in my hands in a shop.

>>25652049
Really good taste anon, I would replace Pangoro with Hitmonchan so we got both Hitmons (I wish I could add Top since he's my favorite, but he likely won't be in). Electabuzz is dope as shit. And Heracross should've been in too.

>>25640629
The AI does this shit all the time and it pisses me off every time.

>>25656281

He's slow as fuck, but he's got air mobility with glide in Field Phase and flying mode in duel phase. He hits like truck, and Seismic Toss combos off of so much shit.

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>Fighting MewTwo
>He can do his burst attack
>Next few seconds is me jumping around like a retard
Making some of those attacks go through shields was a bad idea. They should be able to be countered or something.

>Doing amazing
>B rank matches
>originally was 97%
>dropped to 80%
>every other match loosing
I fucking hate Weavile now.

>>25658038
Did people get good with Weavile online already? All I've seen is fury swipes/grab spam which is not how are you supposed to play it

God I love the Garchomp model in this game. He's never looked so sharky.

>try out shadow mewtwo for the first time
>get matched against pikachu
>miss miss miss miss miss miss miss
>wrecked by cpu mouse
I feel like I'm watching Tom and Jerry.

This game's single player gets insulting sometimes.
>All the matches are piss easy so it makes you fight less seriously.
>Throws a curveball and spikes the difficulty of the opponent unexpectedly so you're getting stomped on by an AI that suddenly knows how to combo you multiple times and read every move.


Though I think the most insulting is the final Shadow Mewtwo battle that railroads you into a 3 round match. You lose the first round, it's an automatic failure. AI activates burst mode on 2nd round to quickly KO you. 3rd round is when you get full meter with unlimited burst mode
Basically, they wanted their anime climax but it feels so artificial.

I'm wracking my brain, trying to think what other fighting games design a final battle like this.

>>25658141
How do you play Weavile? Night Slash, divekicks and ice traps?

>>25658311
Fucking hell anon 10/10 would read again.

>>25652049
Hawlucha
Hitmonlee
Hitmonchan
Hitmontop

>>25652049
Marowak, scizor, aggron, noivern

>>25637077
ninja storm 4 has character dlc

>>25652049
Volcarona
Scizzor/Heracross
Conkeldurr/Pangoro
hydrigon

all hope is gone teir
Squirtle Squad Squirtle

What makes weavile so good?

>Master Lucario's moveset and combos
>Decide to go online
>LOSE LOSE LOSE LOSE

Looks like I bet on the wrong horse. Fuck me right?

>>25659563
>blaming your tools

>>25659563
>Looks like I bet on the wrong horse.

No m8, Lucario's solid. It's fast and versatile in it's options.

This game puts strong focus on the triangle, so git gud with that first and foremost. Com's are NOT the way to go about that, they don't abide by player logic. You can't condition or read a com.

Whats your favorite attack?
I love the Ice Punch followup, it looks so great being a massive chunk of ice extending out of weavile's fist sending the opponent flying back

>>25659635
Hard to say, there's a lot of great one's.

Lucario's Forward-Y-Y in Duel phase is a clear reference to Lars, my main from Tekken. It's really good to boot, great for fake outs.

Charizard's Fire Punch is fucking amazing too, really makes the character.. being able to follow up into Aerial Stance and, what appears to be Dragon Claw and or Flare Blitz.

>the only waist-length hair style is male exclusive
Please tell me this isn't true. I beat the Grand Champion, and I only have it for the male avatar. Is it seriously exclusive to the male avatar? Fucking why? Or, if it isn't, how else am I supposed to unlock stuff?

>>25659605
If Lucario is so good, how come I never see high ranked players use him or even in the championship for that matter? I've been trying other characters and they have far more to them than Lucario. I'm thinking because I play so aggressively, I might start using a power-type character.

>>25659605
I think I'm fucked when it comes to games like this because I just do not have the mental capacity to condition and memorize player habits to take advantage of, let alone even read movements.

>>25659796
Well, there could be any number of reason for that, but the short answer is that the game is new. Of course this same newness lends itself to inaccruacies in early tier lists, but early lists tend to rank Lucario very highly. On a fundamental level, he succeeds. He's really damn good at field phase, having a projectile that's large, can be held, homes and eats other projectiles. His homing physical attack is particularly good, being fast and works well with jump cancel into his aerials. He's also great at forcing a shift change- Side Y is quick, has huge range and instantly forces it. Only issue is it's also pretty weak and can't combo, but it still nets recovery. Against opponents strafing or coming from the back/sides, back Y is fast and covers all areas. Really his only negligable attack in Field phase is the standard Y combo due to how slow the initial projectile is.

Duel phase gives him a lot of options, he can control the pace, especially against really heavy one-sided match ups like Weavile and Blaziken. Lucario, especially in Dual phase, is going to be a character that relies heavy on footsies, and will get better as you do. Back A is amazing for that, because he dips in, then pulls his body box back, so characters trying to micro position get punished. His anti air options immediately lead into follow ups, with the only issue being that their range is limited. Forward Y-Y is great, because he can delay the hit of the second Y by holding the grounded stance, which will punish overzealous opponents so long as they don't immediately react with a counter.

I've personally found success in playing him offensively, but you need to couple that with proper use of the triangle. Lucario's not a super complex character, but what exists works.

>>25659796
To continue a bit, he's gonna be a character that rewards fundamentals. He doesn't have any glaring flaws, and consistency is usually king in fighting games at high level.

The only issue I can see with his placement is Mewtwo potentially outclassing him. But on the other hand, Lucario's Synergy is a lot better (seriously, that field phase aura is fucking insane)

>>25659847
Those are definitely the hardest elements in a fighting game to get down, but it comes down to practice against a lot of people. You'll notice trends, as there are technical optimal options at base that most people will go with. Good players will then think a step ahead and react accordingly.

For instance, if you're fighting an okay player, and you keep attacking, they'll learn after the first few hits and respond with more Counters. Your option there is to then respond with more grabs. That's really basic logic. However, if you're fighting a good player, they may think a step ahead and retaliate with attacks AS you start doing more grabs.... extrapolate that process more, and you can see how it evolves.

First step is to try and identify the skill level of the foe. The entire process is called profiling your opponent-- learning how they play, what playstyle, what their reactions towards pressure are like. Online stuff is tougher since you dont usually have sets (and thus less time to profile your opponent), so basics followed by good late game reads tend to win out.

Pokemon actually uses this exact mental process for competitive battles. It's what makes games like these so deep and engaging.

What's the best Skill Point spread for Garchomp? Should I put them into Synergy to help his shortcomings? Or should I pump them into Defense since he already hits like a truck? Or put them into Offense and make him hit even harder?

>>25652049
Blastoise
Heracross
Pidgeot
Wigglytuff

Realistically
Greninja
Keldeo
Hitmonlee/champ/top
Popular Mega mon

>>25658141
no it was the CPU

What's the difference between free battles in the stadium mode and single battles?

>>25659993
I'm putting points into what that particular mon is good at but I've got no idea what optimum spreads are. I think you can reassign skill points anyway.

You know, I'm so fucking glad they added the comment "I just can't win..." because it fits me to a fucking T right now. The only thing that would have made it perfect is if they added the title "Forever a scrub"

>>25660081
With single battles you can set rules, but they don't net you any exp.

>>25660163
>single battle doesn't give EXP

Do you mean increasing Skill Level? Because Single Battle does give EXP for that.

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>>25652049

Primeape
Heracross
Tentacruel
and either Poliwrath or Doomhound

Also, may be just me, but I wanna see a stage which is basically an illegal pitfight

>>25652049
Marowak, Scizor, Mightyena, and Camerupt

>>25652049
Lopunny
Heracross
Volcarona
Dragonite

>>25660122
One thing you're going to learn quickly is that everyone loses a lot when they pick something up. The only way you'll ever win is by constantly slamming your head against the wall until you break through.

Perseverance and experience is key to victory. The more you play, they easier it will be to handle opponents. It can take people months, even years before they "git gud" at fighting games. Many experienced players of fighting games were pummeled many times before they started getting better.

It can be very depressing losing many times in a row but if you want to become more than a casual, you have to learn to endure that pain. Things will get better eventually.

Yup, she's gone. She went last night...

ZeRo is picking up Pokken

http://youtu.be/PEz81VqU5fo

gg guys, it was fun while it lasted

>>25660350
whats the best mon for a beginner like me

i have never played a fighting game besides smash, which isn't even a fighting game

>>25660374
Lucario is your best bet. It's simple and all-around with easy combos. Though unless you're satisfied with using him, I would branch off to using other characters once you get the hang of pulling off moves and combos.

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>>25660369
>rank match record
>win rate
>27.50%

>>25660397
thanks senpai

also, how is charizard? don't see many people talk about him

>>25660374
Depends what playstyle you're the most comfortable with

People recommended me to pick Pikachu or Weavile as my first character but I can't into melee characters at all. Switched to Suicune (which was supposed to be "slow" and "difficult") after a few rounds and felt at home almost instantly.

>>25660405
He's what you expect if you ever watched the anime: He's a big beefy powerhouse that shuts down speedy characters with sheer brawn.

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>>25652049
Breloom
Beedrill
Malamar
Sudowoodo

I'm getting real sick of my opponent grabbing me no matter what I do

>weavile's super has jack shit horizontal range making it more of a pain to combo into than it should be
to what end

I mean I enjoy the fact that it hits above me so well but I'd like to be able to combo into it better without requiring a wall combo

>>25660611
Tap the Y button a bit more often, you'll find grabs slipping right off of you.

>>25660881
Thanks!

>>25637077
Actually when I went to pick up my copy yesterday, the very knowledgeable claimed they are bringing dlc to pokken
Not even trolling

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Reminder: this containment board exists for a reason. /vp/ furfag shit triggers the /v/ mods and we can't keep a decent thread going because you guys keep jacking off to cartoon animals and the threads 404

>>25652049

Scizor
Golurk
Heracross
Escavalier

Machamp combo I thought was fun:

Down X > jumping y > down x > Snivy assist > jumping throw or y > back a

Hit me with them juicy tier lists, /pokg/

S: Weavile, L. Pika

A: Suicune, Gengar, Pikachu

B: Sceptile, Blaziken, Lucario, Braxien, Chandelure

C: Machamp, Garchomp, Charizard, Gardevoir

Granted I'm also stupid and bad at fightan games

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>>25663413
>tiers
>Pokken