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Who was right?

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Who was right?
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>>57699
i want to go home
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>>57699
>Tried to bump paying passengers off the plane after boarding
>To board non-paying employees to fill in on a flight in Louisville
>Didn't just keep raising offer until someone accepted
>Didn't check if he had a good reason to avoid getting bumped, like a responsibility to his patients
>Sent in the jackboots
>Shittiest PR response ever
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>>57699
>>57700
Damn, look at the dubs in this thread.

Also I don't know; I fly Delta.
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who cares everyone will forget it within a few days anyway
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>>57802
Are you kidding? Everyone is already memeing about it.
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That whole situation is like one of those silly ancap memes.
Someone probably even made one.
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>>57803
fuck off reddit
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>>57736
this
united was in the wrong on this one
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>>57699
>be United Airlines
>have a dress code policy for employees and employee family members who fly free
>two whores decide to challenge dress code
>refuse to board them insisting the put on a dress
>social media uproar
>one month later
>oversell flight tickets, have to bump four passengers
>three cooperate, one Vietnamese fucker decides to be belligerent
>have to call cops to escort him off after he goes apeshit
>suddenly police brutality, videos uploaded to internet
>social media uproar again, get scorned by cheeto president
>get blamed for it anyway despite the cops not being United employees, acting on their own
>lawsuit
>one week passes
>flight attendants can't be bothered to do their jobs and check overhead bins after plane unboards
>a mother fucking scorpion lands on some guy's head and stings the piss out of him
>another lawsuit

United just can't catch a break.
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>>57901
>oversell flight tickets, have to bump four passengers
No, they did not. They decided to bump four to make room to transfer a flight crew at the last minute AFTER boarding.

>three cooperate, one Vietnamese fucker decides to be belligerent
A doctor who had valid cause not to be bumped by random selection and was calmly in his seat.

>have to call cops to escort him off after he goes apeshit
No, they ripped him from his seat and he "fell" into an armrest, getting a serious concussion, broken nose, and losing two teeth.

Fucking bootlicker.

>United just can't catch a break.
Or they just deserve it.
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>>57902
>No, they ripped him from his seat and he "fell" into an armrest, getting a serious concussion, broken nose, and losing two teeth.

His fault for resisting
He acted like a fucking animal.
If they have to actually resort to physically ripping you off you're just being retarded

The Airline needed a seat free, yes you can get mad at them for that, but acting like this is just childish and he fucking deserved it.
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>>58014
>Justifying police brutality
>Victim blaming
Just because nobody at that point thought $800 was worth getting bumped yet.
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>>58020
>>Victim blaming
>resisting police makes you a victim
No.
If you resist police and you get hurt, that's your own fault, you're not a victim at all.
If you don't want to be hurt, don't resist police. You don't have a legal right to either.
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>>57699
I dunno, but I booked on Southwest for my next business trip
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United were in the wrong. As a paying passenger the airline should have no right to just pull me off when they fuck up. When I say I can't wait for another flight because I have plans they should just leave it at that, not beat me up like I'm a criminal until they can carry me off.
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>>58028
>United in breach of Contract of Carriage in trying to force-bump him
>Didn't try anything to resolve issue
>Didn't even try to see why he didn't want to get bumped
>Cops gave him no chance to comply
Fuck off, bootlicker.
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>>58034
>bootlicker
Guess your only actual argument is calling people names
I don't care if he had a right to that seat.

The thing is, you don't have a right to resist police if they tell you to get out, period.
If you want to sue later, like an adult and a civilized person, you can do that.
You don't start flailing around like a fucking monkey, in a civilized country.
But I bet you live in some third world shithole like Philadelphia
He deserved it.
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>>58035
>Actually believes that's what happened when video shows otherwise
I'm calling you a bootlicker because you're supporting the unjustified use of force on an elderly doctor because he was refusing to leave a seat he had every right to occupy.
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>>58036
>I'm calling you a bootlicker because you're supporting the unjustified use of force on an elderly doctor because he was refusing to leave a seat he had every right to occupy.

And when the police tried to remove him, he had the legal duty to comply. He didn't.
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>>58038
They ripped a 69 year old doctor out of his seat, slammed him into a hard surface so forcefully he now needs reconstructive surgery, then dragged him by his arms down the aisle. There was no cause to use such force on him, no cause to call the police in the first place, and and you are what's wrong with how we deal with bad police interactions.
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>>58038
Also, from a spokesperson of the agency the officers belonged to:
>Aviation Department spokeswoman Karen Pride said in the statement: "While they do have limited authority to make an arrest, Sunday's incident was not within standard operating procedures nor will we tolerate that kind of action." Three officers have been placed on administrative leave while the department reviews the incident.
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>>58039
>>58040
Again, he had the choice, in fact the obligation, not to resist. He did. Therefore, it was his fault.
Did the officers use "excessive" force? Maybe. But he shouldn't have resisted them and could've avoided the whole incident.
It was his duty to comply, and he refused to. That was the consequence. I don't feel sorry for this guy.
Had the police shown up I would've gotten out of the plane, and then sued the airline, like a civil person.
Hell even waiting for them to call the police is just childish and wasting everyone's time.
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It's on the airline if they choose to overbook their flights. If nobody's willing to work around their awful business practice the company needs to be sympathetic, not beat them up.
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>>58041
Do you actually believe this, or are you being contrarian for the fun of it?

>It was his duty to comply, and he refused to.
Except it wasn't. They weren't detaining him, and he was legally in the right to be in that seat he had paid for, and the airline had no legal justification to remove him. If they aren't arresting you the police have no right to touch you unless they think you're actively endangering yourself or others, or committing a crime. None of which was applicable and why the officers were suspended, and the department condemned their actions.

>Hell even waiting for them to call the police is just childish and wasting everyone's time.
Yep, just let everyone just walk all over you, doing the wrong thing, great way to live as a doormat.

>>58044
>It's on the airline if they choose to overbook their flights.
They actually didn't, though. You don't fly much, do you? Overbooking is handled before/during boarding, not after you've been boarded, and those overbooked are usually in "Standby" seats for if anyone doesn't show up. In this case they'd already fully boarded and then decided to bump 4 so they could transfer a flight crew.

> If nobody's willing to work around their awful business practice the company needs to be sympathetic, not beat them up.
Right, or keep sweetening the deal to get someone to agree to participate.
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>>58068
>Except it wasn't. They weren't detaining him, and he was legally in the right to be in that seat he had paid for, and the airline had no legal justification to remove him. If they aren't arresting you the police have no right to touch you unless they think you're actively endangering yourself or others, or committing a crime. None of which was applicable and why the officers were suspended, and the department condemned their actions.

Actually by paying for the ticket on an airline you are effectively agreeing to their TOS (which you can google by the way) which clearly state that they can remove you from the flight for whatever reason they deem fit.

Legally they have carte blanche to deny anyone their seat for any reason because by buying the ticket your signing their contract and agreeing to their terms, and that's what their terms say. If they ask you to get off and you refuse they have every right to remove you by force as the plane is their private property.

It's kind of like a cab driver kicking you out of a cab if your being belligerent.

Yes, the incident is terrible because of the circumstances and the blatant lack of compassion shown as well as how badly the dude got fucked up by the cops, but the airline was well within their rights to do what they did and the cops were only doing their jobs.
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>>58501
https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/contract-of-carriage.aspx#sec21
"We need to make room" isn't a valid cause for involuntary removal by United's own contract of carriage.

>Legally they have carte blanche to deny anyone their seat
Yes, they can deny you BOARDING for any reason, but not take you off the plane unless it fits Rule 21 Refusal of Transport.

https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/contract-of-carriage.aspx#sec25
They also didn't come close to meeting the range of options they have in Rule 25 Denied Boarding Compensation.

>but the airline was well within their rights to do what they did and the cops were only doing their jobs.
Except they were blatantly in the wrong, both by United's own Contract of Carriage and the Police department's policies on their limited power of arrest and use of force.
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>>58519
Alright then, if that's the case then I sincerely hope that the doctor contacts his legal network and runs United down for all they are worth.
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>>57699
If he wanted to stay on the plane so badly i don't know what the problem is just tie him to the ground, He payed for a seat knowing he might not get to stay when he didn't get his way he threw a fit and got his beat for it.
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>>58918
>Repeating the bootlicker mantra despite all the reasons he was in the right already laid out and United and the security department admitting they were in the wrong
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>>58920
>>bootlicker mantra
>>/reddit/
>get bombarded by idiots making your service look bad even though your service was in no way shape or form responsible for what accord
>y-yes we were wrong, we're sorry
>idiots stop making your service look bad
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>>58921
See >>58519

Dipshit.
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