Why did Trump win?

because

>>46287

Democrats fields a preening know-it-all smarmy asshole cunt whose lust for power was truly frightening. The DNC cheated at every turn to eliminate Bernie Sanders. Clinton lost to a fucking nigger in 2008. People hate her. She is never to be trusted. Therefore Trump won, which seems completely impossible. He's an asshole, but at least he's not Clinton.

Classic lesser of two evils.

Dems completely dropped the ball. This is is what complacency gets you.

>>46296
>This is is what complacency gets you.
a 2 million lead in the popular vote?

Republicans have also been complacent. They basically sat around and did nothing for 8 years but participate in extreme obstructionism then blamed Obama for getting nothing done. They can also afford to be complacent because they won state governments around the last census which let them gerrymander a crap ton of areas in their favor.

The Dems still made a massive amount of mistakes but it's not like the Republicans have been some slick operators.

>>46306
But they HAVE been slick operators.

They steadily ensured that they would have a high chance of getting all of the branches without having the majority of the popular vote.

>>46308
they didn't really ensure that, the Constitution did long before parties even existed. Our system is inherently biased towards less populated states which Republicans strive in - they get proportionally more Reps, Senators and electoral votes.

On a tangential point that also means the Republican party has a bigger talent pool to draw from, especially with all the extra governorships they control.

There would always be a party that appeals to urbanites and another that appeals to rural voters, Republicans just happen to appeal to the site for which the system is tilted towards. No skill required in that respect.

>>46311
No, I mean that the GOP has been cleverly - or just as a matter of course - making it harder to vote for groups that typically vote against them.

Obama actually made reference to that shortly after the 2012 elections, saying that it was a high priority for him to fix.

Then the democrats twiddled their thumbs, made small overtures towards fixing the 'problem' and mostly grandstanded for the media.

>>46287

Yes.

>>46306
Oh the Republicans certainly didn't know what the hell they were doing either. It just worked out for them this time.

Memes.

Memes because a thing and everyone became a shitty memetard.

"Memes were a mistake." --moot

>>46332
>It just worked out for them this time.

And in 2000.

The electoral college is rigged in their favor because of rural fucktards. And it always will until something is changed.

>>46306
>a 2 million lead in the popular vote?

How about a 70 fucking point lead in the EC?

California has a lot of people, we get it. If the state really thinks it's so important, then it can secede like it's been bitching about lately.

>>46340
>rural fucktards

Yeah see, this is why you lost. Shocking, I know, but people do live outside of New York and Los Angeles, and they have problems, concerns, and opinions that matter.

The Dems this round though thought they were irrelevant.

The President is the President of the entirety of the United States, not just major population centers.

>>46287
>Why did Trump win?
Because he won the required 270 electoral votes.

>>46306
Popular vote is useless thank god

>>46348
yes my fellow urban numale, lets make a system where only large population centers matter and make it so politicians will build their policies solely on giving big cities benefits at the expense of all the small communities and states that produce everything the urban centers need to survive so the country becomes extremely divided and the poor rurals become a peasent class ruled over by the urbans and eventually the rurals will have enough and "accidentally" starve all the cities to death one year probably igniting a civil war.

good plan

>>46348
>Yeah see, this is why you lost
No it isn't, conservatives can be just as condescending and smug. The amount of times I've heard rural people proclaim themselves as "real" Americans is stupendous. If you look at the voter turnout statistics, Dems lost because liberals stayed home, not because conservatives turned out in a wave to vote Trump.
>>46406
Good plan, let's have a system that makes California irrelevant, despite the fact it feeds the nation. The electoral college works on a state level, not a rural/urban level. Candidates still visit the major cities even in predominantly rural states. It's also laughable that you think most rural people are exclusively farmers and ranchers, it's like you've never even left the city and are just parroting half-brained arguments in favor of the electoral college you heard on /pol/.

>>46407
You're quite literally advocating that rural citizens opinions on government are worthless.

>>46411
They already are in many states due to the electoral college.

"All votes should be equal"
"You're making some votes worthless"

That doesn't compute. Most states are already completely ignored under the electoral college, regardless of their urban or rural status. Just a handful of swing states that happen to have the right demographics are competitive, meaning their particular issues get hyperfocused on to the detriment of everyone else. The people that feed you don't give a crap about the dying coal industry, but that's only one particular concern for one particular type of rural area.

1) Hilary didn't campaign as much as Trump

2) Putin threatened to start a war if Hillary was elected

>>46287
because the democratic party is self sabotaging, and people don't care about human rights, the environment, or nuclear proliferation.

>>46287
>Why did Trump win?

Clinton was an evil cunt. Lesser of two evils. Trump is an asshole, but Clinton would have brought about WWIII.

>>46287
Simple. Everyone fucking hates progressives and conservatives. Trump clearly is neither.

A cluster of reasons
>SJWs
>Hillary rigging Bernie out of the race
>Emails
>All the leaks
>SJWs ignoring all the leaks and damage controlling with "But she has a vagina!"
>SJWs and MSM skipping all real discussion and just jumping right to shitting on trump, and praising Hillary as "Lord and savior who has a vagina"
>Trump actually promising changes to help the working class and talking about them. Hillary does nothing other than say "I will help them" without saying how.
>Hillary's health and shitstorms
>Hillary's antics make Democrats jump onto the Stein or Johnson train, some even jumping onto the trump train.
>John Podesta

People didn't like Hillary and most people assumed she would win so they stayed home.

>>46778
Hillary technically won the popular vote, but that's only because LA, SF and NYC exist. Basically cities full of faggots chose Hillary, the rest of the country chose trump.

>>46765
What the fuck is SJW even supposed to mean nowadays?

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>>46792
Anyone who doesn't think a child rapist is fit to be president as an SJW.

>>46792
Still means Social Justice warrior.

I'm pretty damn sure people ranting about how "SJW is overused" are either SJW enablers or SJWs themselves.

>>46794
So... how about that pizzagate?

>>46788
If the election went the opposite way (Hillary wins electoral vote, Trump wins popular vote), you bet your ass the same people who are now bitching about how the electoral college is shit and that popular vote matters, would be saying "Popular vote doesn't mean shit guys, Hillary won".

In other words, the hillshills are only crying about popular vote because they're salty as all fuck and they lost.

>>46796
>Still means Social Justice warrior.
So it still refers to the fringe-minority of feminists that lurk on tumblr and liberal college communities? Because from the way you guys use the term, it seems like it is applicable to everyone who disagrees with you.
SJWs have very, very little to do with Trump's victory, it's fucking laughable if you base your vote on the basis of a bunch of feminists bitching and moaning on tumblr.

>>46798
I used to think sjws didn't exist, and then I saw a community college editorial that read just like a god damn tumblr SJW post, and a class nearby talking about mansplaining as if it were arithmetic or something.

You can't just silence me by saying "Lol, SJW is a dumb term, comment dismissed"

In what sense

"Why did he win" the general election, or what factors led to his meteoric rise in the primaries that set him up for the general, or even broader, what factors of his life and the state of America over the past 40 years culminated in his running and winning?


There's a lot to all of this

>>46821
That last one sounds pretty interesting.

>>46306
>a 2 million lead in the popular vote?
yet still down several million from obama's performance in '08

republican turnout since then has been essentially the same, while dem turnout has dropped pretty significantly. that's the real story here; clinton couldn't galvanize voters like obama could.

>>46836
Obama promised hope, was a great speaker, and people didn't want another bush.

Clinton really didn't promise anything new, sounded like a fucking cunt, and was essentially just Bush with a vagina and a D after her name. The only thing that she really had going for her was "Muh vagina", which a lot of her hardened support jumped on, using it as damage control, while most other Democrats just jumped ship onto the Stein, Johnson, or even Trump train. Even a couple edgy leftists jumped on the Trump train after Sanders was rigged out of the equation. Essentially quite a lot of people just didn't want Clinton to win.

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Trump won because he actually listened to what voters were concerned about and addressed that in his platform.

For example, notice how he never said he would simply repeal Obamacare, he always said "we'll repeal it and replace it with something better." Because he talked to regular working class people and they said, hey, we DO like having coverage for pre-existing conditions.

Even though that's ideologically un-Republican of him, he still went for that because he listened to what people want.

>>46796
>pizzagate

Infowars is now state-run propaganda. It's no longer edgy or cool to reference it.

>>46847
>he always said "we'll repeal it and replace it with something better."

And if Americans weren't retarded, they would have asked him what that something better was. Protip: Trump has no idea.

>>46849
Oh, of course. I'm skeptical of what he's going to do as well. I was just answering OP's question.

>>46840
>The only thing that she really had going for her was "Muh vagina",
Lol no.
>Essentially quite a lot of people just didn't want Clinton to win.
Factually incorrect, as Clinton won the popular vote by the largest amount in the history of the US.
>>46847
>Trump won because he actually listened to what voters were concerned about and addressed that in his platform.
I guess you could say that, although there's a difference between preaching to the crowd and actually saying what you're going to do, we still don't know a lot of what Trump is actually going to do if he gets in office.

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>>46853
>we still don't know a lot of what Trump is actually going to do if he gets in office.

Of course. I'm just saying that's what won him the election.

Now we get to see what happens.

>>46306
>They basically sat around and did nothing for 8 years but participate in extreme obstructionism

To be fair, they were elected in 2010 and 2014 for the specific purpose of going in and obstructing. Then the voters got mad at them for not obstructing ENOUGH, so they dumped all the of the politicians presented to them in the primary and went Trump instead.

>>46853
>Factually incorrect, as Clinton won the popular vote by the largest amount in the history of the US.

By what metric?

She got fewer total votes than Obama 2008 or Obama 2012, and she won the popular vote by around 2.55M or 1.8%, which is a smaller margin than every election over the past century outside of Gore 2000, Carter 1976, Nixon 1968, and Kennedy 1960.

>>46853
>Factually incorrect, as Clinton won the popular vote by the largest amount in the history of the US.
>>46836
>republican turnout since then has been essentially the same, while dem turnout has dropped pretty significantly. that's the real story here; clinton couldn't galvanize voters like obama could.

>>46861
He probably meant the largest popular vote win margin of anyone who's lost the electoral college, I've seen that statistic mentioned elsewhere

>>46853
Name one thing Hillary had going for her? Practically nothing other than "She isn't trump", which many people thought was pretty meaningless after the leaks got more and more juicy, literally the only argument that hardened supporters had at that point were "She has a vagina", basically just voting for her because "Woman president is progressive!", and the whole "She isn't trump thing" was pretty much useless as many ultimately decided that they would rather anything but Hillary at that point, even if it meant having trump in office, all because of the shit leaked on her.

Hillary lost, and if it's anyone's fault, it's the fault of her being a lying cunt who think they can get away with anything because "I have a vagina and D after my name, also I'm in senate", her staff doing the same shit and talking about rigging the polls (Which got leaked), her supporters mostly just damage controlling with "She has a vagina! You're just sexist" when confronted with leaks, not to mention shaming 3rd party voters who sure as fuck wouldn't want Clinton in office by saying "A vote for 3rd party is for Trump", and also Mainstream media for being corrupt, silencing Critics who were against Hillary, shilling left and right, and saying "Viewing these leaks are illegal, but it's different for us, because we're the media, everything you learn comes from us", and then suddenly going on a crusade against "Fake news" afterwards just to protect the name of Clinton and Podesta.

I don't have any Sympathy for Hillary or the supporters for her that can't accept the fact that she lost, and think they can blame third party supporters (Extremely counter productive considering they are in the "Yeah, Trump is pretty bad, but Hillary is just complete evil, I'd rather have anyone but Hillary" crowd) for it, you're basically saying "Fuck you, vote Hillary because I said so!".

>>46882
>Name one thing Hillary had going for her?

Termination of private prisons.
Continued growth of health coverage under Obamacare.
Tuition relief.
Actually believes in climate change.

>>46913
>Muh obamacare
So basically we have to pay more taxes so old people don't die
>Muh tuition
I doubt she really cares, this was the cunt who was all for the TPP, but suddenly when people were flocking to bernie and Trump because they were against TPP, suddenly she claimed to be for it... though we all knew that once she was in office, she would just sign that shit in. After all, she always makes fun of Bernouts when rich assholes are listening.
>Muh climate change
Sorry, too late faggot, we've passed the point of no return way too long ago, and really, to the average joe, who cares if there's going to be electric cars no one can afford and solar panels no one can afford, and green energy in places no one can afford to live in.

>>46922
She claimed to be against it, that was a pretty embarrassing typo, but really, Hillary Cunton is no one to be trusted

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>>46923
>Hillary Cunton is no one to be trusted

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/source-trump-nearing-settlement-in-trump-university-fraud-cases/2016/11/18/8dc047c0-ada0-11e6-a31b-4b6397e625d0_story.html

>>46928
Meanwhile...

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEE8w-v6Gg4j3ze3oX-urEw

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/

There's a whole treasure trove of shit here, not to mention Podesta himself is a pretty much a spoopy fuck.

Remove hillshill

>>46306
You're partially right. Trump effectively destroyed the republican party during the primaries and wore its skin while remolding it in his centrist ideal.

Dems were holding their smoke and mirror act together well enough, but Trump put too much stress on their system to the point of them screaming racistkkknazievildarkfuckingwhitemale broke their illusion for too many people and the incredible election night upset has shredded the party to the same level of rekt that the republicans are at.

Clinton could have a 6 million lead and nobody important will give a shit because the campaigns would have been different from the start if either candidate were trying to win the popular vote.

>>46406
This.

>>46407
I'm going to assume you don't watch SNL. Tom Hanks pretending to be a redneck on black Jeopardy is the essence of whatever rural America sees whenever they turn on news or entertainment.

>>46407
California is the fucking China of the US.
>CA facilitates illegal immigrants like no other state
>ensures that they have a massive population of low-wage workers
>massive pool cheap labor to pick pistachios, strawberries, etc year round
>super-cheap product able to be shipped to most of the US
>farm industry in other states diminished
>"lol, CA is an economic powerhouse, these flyover states can't even compete"

So thank god for the electoral college, because it's literally the only reason the US will soon be able to tell sanctuary cities to fuck off by revoking funding and mobilizing ICE.

>>46412
It's not perfect, but it's better than leaving the entire election up to about eight cities.

>>46670
You mean
>Hillary threatened to start war if Hillary was elected.

She had a raging hardon for creating a no-fly zone over Syria.

>>46794
Prove it.

>>46847
This is the true shining positive quality about Trump. He's pragmatic and he's willing to listen to challenges to his ideas. The media spins him as lying or changing his position, but if you watched his rallies you'd hear his message grow and refine as he talked to more and more people and gauged the reactions at the rallies.

>>46849
Pizzagate is purely a product of research done by /pol/, /r/the_donald, and now /v/pizzagate. Has nothing to do with infowars, they merely reported on it.

>>46849
Whatever it is, it'll be better than paying out the ass for the shitty version we have now. Opening up the state-by-state restriction would be huge.

>>46928
>washington post
>jeff bozo literally bought a newspaper company to push his political agenda

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>>46935
>Project Veritas

You mean the guy who got sued for manipulating footage to push an agenda? Yeah, nah. Go be retarded somewhere else.

>>47000
Doesn't mean shit. They show these people talking for minutes at a time enough that they couldn't have changed the meaning through editing.

>>47000
>Believing CNN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DcATG9Qy_A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqCIub3SmCI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdYRN8Clddw

Go leave Hill shill

>>46287
I think this is going to be THE topic that social-poilitical scientists study for the next decade. Armchair psych answer for me though is that

1) Dem's put way too much faith in Clinton (though talk is a lot of high ups owed her favors)
2) The Dem Party did not understand the major concerns of the common voter.

I think most people this election genuinely didn't care about which party won. I think they were stuck between a rock and hard place with two unlikable candidates and only cared about if they were going to have jobs in the next four years. That and terrorism. One candidate was promising to bring in a fuck ton of people from an area that breeds terrorism and the other promised to gate off them as well as Mexico.

>>46813
He isn't silencing you (You sound like an SJW right now btw) He's explaining that yes the term is used in such broad swathes that it's meaningless.

>>47045
Not going to stop anyone from using it, in fact, it's only going to make people use it more, just like how when SJWs spouted MRA again and again, some people actually leaned more in favor with Men's rights.

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>>46295
What is /pol/ putting in red pills these days?

>>46287
Because Rustbillies are stupid and gullible.

>>46348
>and they have problems, concerns, and opinions that matter.

As a person from, and living in, a largely rural state, I can say this: NO. Their issues are that they want the high-paying, low-skill, low-education, low-intellect, manual-labor jobs to come back and that ain't a gonna ever happen.

>>46976
>research
...oh my fucking god.

>>46797
>because they're salty as all fuck and they lost.

No. It's because AMERICA lost by getting Trump as President, but you subnormals don't get it.

>>48478
The whole world loses when any president is elected in any country. Statism does not benefit you.

>>46348
This

>>46306
muh popular vote

California and jewyork make up that thats why we have electoral college so places like Wyoming can have a say with there only 500000 people

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>>46287
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uTL7xRNXWI

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>Shillary/the DNC did a worse job of relating to blue collar Americans than a New York billionaire real estate mogul who lives in a gold-plated Manhattan skyscraper penthouse
>libfags ignore this fact and just cry about muh Russians when analyzing why they lost, even though they repeatedly brushed off the email hacks and Wikileaks as meaningless distractions during the election

>U.S. Consumer Confidence Jumps to Highest Level Since 2001
>
>Consumer confidence climbed in December to the highest level since August 2001 as Americans were more upbeat about the outlook than at any time in the last 13 years, according to a report Tuesday from the New York-based Conference Board.
>
>Key Points
>* Confidence index increased to 113.7 (forecast was 109) from a revised 109.4 in November
>* Measure of consumer expectations for the next six months rose to 105.5, the highest since December 2003, from 94.4
>* Present conditions index fell to 126.1 from 132
>* Share of Americans expecting better business conditions six months from now rose to 23.6 percent, the highest since February 2011, from 16.4 percent

>>46287
From a neutral point of view:

The silent majority. This was probably the biggest factor. Independents who tended to lean towards Trump but never openly acknowledged or talked about it because they didn't want to be labeled a racist or bigot. There were a lot of Americans, several million at least, that favored Trump but never wanted to come clean about it. I'm not talking hard red voters either; I'm talking middle America. Good, honest, hard working people that aren't racist living in counties that previously were blue and voted for Obama twice simply just favored Trump this time.

Hillary is near universally hated. If not the above, this might've been the next big thing. Hillary is a known pathological liar, fraud, power-hungry, smug, condescending cunt who thinks she's above the law and would go to any lengths including selling out her country if it meant more power. Reminder that this election saw two of the worst favored candidates in our nation's history. Trump wasn't much better, but he had far less baggage than Hillary had, and when given the choice, people didn't seem to think "Grab 'em by the pussy" was all that bad compared to a would-be felon who routinely got away with murder.

The Democratic National Committee cheated and fucked over their own voter base by eliminating all competition (Primarily Bernie Sanders) and forcing Hillary down everyone's throats. The DNC purposely rigged the primaries in Hillary's favor so that no one else stood a chance (Setting debate dates on major sports nights, leaking big debate questions to Hillary and no one else, etc.). Democratic voters this election cycle had virtually no input on their candidate; they were told to suck it up and vote Hillary. Why? Because at least she's not Trump.

That's the majority of it. There are a few other reasons but most of them are negligible. Stuff like undersampling in the polls so that it looked like Hillary would win in a landslide, fake news circulating on social media, etc.

>>48855
Her campaign was also fucking abysmal
>I'm with her
Where Trump ran his campaign on caring out the country, hers was about nothing else but her.

>>46406
this.

>live in an area that is not self-sufficient
>"how about I just label them with another insult every time I talk about the people who provide this city with the goods it needs?"

people in rural areas tend to be simpler, but good luck trying to get anywhere when you make it obvious that you look down on them. because you still need them.

all the complaints about the electoral college are stupid anyway. it was no secret how the election works in the US, both candidates knew that you cannot exclusively pander to the big cities and then expect to win, you also need at least some of the other places.
might as well complain that you only lost the game of chess because you thought you were playing checkers

>>46882
I thought it was pretty funny that they went after the third party voters.

Nigga, if those people had any interest in Hillary getting into office, they would have voted for Hillary.

>>48940
Yes, there's something to be said about her campaign as well. I didn't include it in my post because I hit the character limit but Hillary's campaign was really bad. After she received the democratic party's nomination, she stopped campaigning in a handful of states altogether, notably Wisconsin. She thought she had the rust belt states in the bag so she didn't even bother making any trips out there to convince voters why they should vote for her; she just assumed they would. I'm sure that got under a lot of working class people's skin.

Even Obama pointed that out, something to the effect of the reason he won Iowa was that he actually made stops there on his campaign trail and listened to what people had to say and what their thoughts were; Hillary did not, and that reflected greatly in the counties that previously went blue twice going red this election.

I'll be honest, I never thought Wisconsin, Michigan, or fucking Pennsylvania would go red this election.

>>49866
I know lol it was kind of funny.

>>49866
Why those three states in particular?

>>49871
MI and PA were last red in 1988. WI was last red in 1984. At least OH recently went red in both 2000 and 2004.

>>49874
Every president for the past 100 years that has won an election has won Ohio.

Left got complacent, dropped the ball, and strayed too far from any grounding in reality.

Incompetent RINOs fielded no one of note.

A sharp witted business man capitalized on a growing nationalist sentiment built upon the blunders of bummer & left in general.

By leveraging the Internet and social media Trump circumvented the traditional media establishment and played them like fools .

tl;dr People got sick of the establishment's bullshit, Trump sensed this and capitalized on said wave straight into the White House.

The man is smart.

It's like that Jackie Chan movie Drunken Master, he just kept rolling with shit until he won by sheer force of will

Because people like the Clintons even less.

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>>49878
>By leveraging the Internet and social media Trump circumvented the traditional media establishment and played them like fools .
This is an interesting talking point. I know "how much did /pol/ influence the election" is kind of a meme by now, but I think most would agree that the internet in general was a great boon to Trump's campaign.

9% of Democrats voted for Trump while 7%of Republicans voted for Hillary. In an election this close those two points mattered especially in states that have't went red in 28 years.

http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37922587

>>50232
Twitter played a big part in how the media covered Trump. He would say some crazy shit on twitter and the mainstream media would point it out as a way to hang himself on his words but that only gave him more publicity. They did the opposite to Bernie and he was only barely beaten by the 30 year political veteran and household name: Hillary Clinton. What the left is not doing is some soul searching after they put up the worst candidate they could have picked to run this election cycle. They're doubling down on how Hilllary won the popular vote when she ran a shit campaign which showed off just how out of touch with the public the Democrats are. The funniest thing about the whole situation is the random sightings in the woods and the supermarket that Hillary is a real person that goes on walks and buys her own food after the election. It seems to point to the idea that the Dem elite are going to humanize her enough to run her in 2020 which would be the funniest joke I have ever heard in my life. I hope she dies before then so she can save herself the embarrassment.

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Because he won the support of /b/ and /pol/

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>>46287
It's simple.
>heh heh, those pesky white males are just RACIST! They won't win this time! It's #ourturn!
>Oh wait, white males have won literally every conflict they've ever been in against a foreign race, f-f-f-fucking /pol/ virgin neckbeards!!!

>>46287
>Why did Trump win?
Because he garnered enough votes in key battleground states to win the 270 count needed for the electoral college.

I don't think the "why" really matters. I've accepted it. He should be prepared to be more critically monitored than any President in history though.

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He knows how to stay gold.

Because he ran a better campaign and appealed better to voters in swing states.

>B-B-BUT MUH POPULAR VOTE!

Clinton won in a contest nobody was having.

>>50559
he isn't prepared and won't be, he'll just pander to his cult of personality which sucks him off no matter what. Trump was supposed to drain the swamp and now he's worse than even Hillary's leaked Cabinet list

>>46287
>Why did Trump win?

There is something deeply suspicious about Hillary Clinton. Trump may be a grandstanding asshole, but he's not evil. Not as evil as Clinton, anyway.

>>46313
You mean felons, dead people, and illegals? Every ghetto nigger has ID already to buy booze and smokes.

>>50237
This, Hillary running again will only kill her, considering there will likely be more scandal around her, not to mention everyone will just see through her bullshit that even if Trump fucks up, swingstates would still rather re-elect him than elect her. And even if she does get elected (Trump would have to really, really fuck up for that to happen), there would probably be enough scandal around her by then for impeachment, or for her to die of stress.

>>46287
He looked like a clown so he got all the media attention. Looks like getting all the media attention is a good way to become president.

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Waifus and God's will won the election.

>>48477
Not an argument.

>>48478
All that's happened so far is thousands of jobs have been added and the stock market has soared before he's even taken office.

>>50715
Exactly, eight years of Obama policy is precisely how Trump got elected.

I voted for Obama in 2008 because he was going to stop the war.

We've been at war with at least one, usually two countries every single day for eight years of Obama.

I voted for Trump in 2016 because he will hopefully stop the multiple wars we have going on.

>>50706
That only gets you so far. Turns out he actually had decent policy.

Then he was also persuasive enough to change the Republican platform. When the fuck have you ever heard right wingers saying that trannys can use whatever restroom they want?

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He'd better watch out, the webcomickers are coming for him.

>>46287
Is there piss in that mug?

>>50742
You are fake news.

>>50962
t. Boris

>All of these ruralfags who genuinely think that they're independent of cities

Tell me, where are the consumers of raw products? Where do the interstates that make rural life in America possible lead to?

I genuinely support Calexit and other secession movements like Texit partially because I don't think ruralites in America realize how much they need cities.

Today was the day. Congratulations everyone.

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>>51394

>>46287
A number of factors. He got lower numbers than Romney and Mcain, and of course lost the popular vote, but clinton did so much worse than previous dems. The people who wanted her to win were never exited, they just didn't want trump to win, and they figured clinton was a shoe in, so they didn't try very hard. Trump appealed to peoples anger at the upper class in a way that sounded genuine and down to earth, and riled up the racist undertones of the republican party, and all that added up to him getting near average numbers, but pushed him over the top in a few key states, including ones the dems were sure they could win. Trump's way of deflecting criticism fit perfectly into the right wing's fact checking blind spot, so things that should have hurt him a lot only hurt him a little. Mostly though they could have run just about anybody besides clinton and won.

>>46311
>Our system is inherently biased towards less populated states

I would say it's less that there's an active bias towards less populated states and that there's a active bias against more populated states. It's a subtle distinction and almost completley semantic, but I feel it's an important one to make nonetheless.

>>46794
t. Nun beater

>>51075
>Calexit

You filthy fucking liberals are delusional if you think that you'll make off with that rightful U.S. clay. If Calexit ever becomes a thing, prepare for the literal day of the rope to sweep across your state.

>>51446
>the right wing's fact checking blind spot

You're right, I really should tune into CNN for my Fact Checking™ needs.

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Trump Won because patriots will not surrender to the false song of globalism, we voted to have our country back and to make it great again!

>>52668
>will not surrender to the false song of globalism
But he spreads his buttcheeks to his Israeli overlords.

>>46287

Because people were longer swayed by being called bigots, sexists, and homophobes for not voting the way the left wanted.