Do we really need two countries here?

>>9601

No, we need 21

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>>9601

Basque freedom when?

>>9602
/thread

>>9603
Duh, Basque. Catalonia FTW!

>>9601
no, andorra and france need to be deleted. iberian island when?

Someone tell me what the honest difference between Spain and Portugal is. Outside of the language difference, they seem completely identical to me.

>>9607

Portugal are Arab-tier, Spaniards are whiter.

Balkanisation of North America when

>>9607
Culture

>>9608
true

>>9601
we wuz menorcas?

>>9608
t. I've never left my state or even my town

>>9607

Language is an important difference, the language is one of the most important things of the cultures. The Italians, Germans and Greeks based the creation of their countries in the common language.

>>9607
The same argument could be made for much of the countries of the world.

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>>9607
Spain drinks big boy coffee, Portugal drinks baby coffee.

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>>9601
Portuguese > Spanish

>>9607
Spain is as artificial as a European federation while Portugal is entirely natural.

The Portuguese were the Maori of Europe. They smell like fish and its culture is based on navigation.

Spaniards were a warrior and artistic society where religion was very important. Something more like Tibet.

>>9613
>t. I've never left my state or even my town

that meme is dead, froggie

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>>9611
I still like Portugal senpai.

>>9619
>Maori

I wanted to say Polynesians.

>>9620
Name 13 european countries without google
ps I will know if you cheated so don't even try

well, one is a nation-state, the other isn't.

>>9624

This. Spain is a nation, Portugal is just a region of the Spanish nation.

>>9625
portugal is cooler than you dirty arabs

>>9607
The Portuguese are reserved and melancholy. They don't live up to the Southern European stereotypes. They also speak English better and are less insular.

Spain doesn't have one singular culture, and Castillian was forced upon different regions. The cuisine is different, the people are different, honestly most things are different except in Galicia. The biggest difference would be that Portugal is happy being a single country, whereas Spain is not.

Portugal
Spain
Galicia
Basque country
Cataluña
Andalucia
Andorra
We need 7

>>9623
>Name 13 european countries without google
>ps I will know if you cheated so don't even try

>prove I'm wrong
>i don't care what you say i'm right

calm down you autist. anti-americanism isn't required to prove you're french

>>9626

What? Why you insulted me? I'm a sensible person man.

>>9630
because i'm an anglo and i can do what i want

>england international superpower by 2020

>>9629
His point is true though, that most Americans don't travel overseas because of the cost and your lack of statutory holidays.

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>>9630

Leave basque country alone

>>9629
lmao ok w/e you say homeboy

>>9631
>i'm an anglo

That's a reason to clean your teeth, not to insult me.

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>>9632
>and lack of statutory holidays
It's not fun being a wagecuck here.

>>9632

It's mainly because America is the dominant country on the planet. Americans have a choice to travel, many Europoors and others don't.

Also Europe is the size of America, so it's not a fair comparison.

>>9636
It honestly shocked me when I saw this for the first time. We get three weeks, the UK I think gets nearly a month. Meanwhile American employers can give you nothing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_minimum_annual_leave_by_country

>>9638
22 percent of us actually get nothing. I get less than a week paid but then again I only work 3 days a week. Couldn't even fathom working full time and getting barley anything.

>>9637
I understand that there's more to see in America than just about any other country, but we're further from Europe than you are, but per capita we travel to Europe and overseas in general far more than Americans.

It's an established part of our culture to go overseas on an OE (overseas experience) when people are around university age. God knows how many thousands of kiwis are in London at the moment. The same thing is true in Australia as well.

America doesn't seem to have that as part of their culture,

>>9639
I'm not a fan of too much social welfare, but it seems criminal how Americans get shafted when it comes to employment.

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>>9639

Joke's on you. I'm on unemployment benefits, every day is a vacation.

>>9635
haha I'm actually Polish

didn't know the Sp*nish were that dumb desu

>>9641
>tfw job won't lay me off

>>9640

That's because Australia is cucked by America/Western Europe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-0UHyh5Qu8

>>9644
Meanwhile you get screwed by your employer and your own government. I know which option I'd rather pick.

>>9642

haha I'm actually Estonian

didn't know the P*lish were that dumb desu

>>9640
Much more Americans actually have passports and travel overseas today than even 20 years ago. America is just comparatively insular. It's like being in a bubble. 99 percent of the media we consume is American and for most of us you could travel hundreds of miles and still be in our country. For most of us, at least where I live the world may as well end at our borders.

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>>9646
Bravo Estonia!

>>9645
The American underclass are arrogant sheep, but that's the price to pay for being on top.

If we were cucked by Russia or China, all Americans would be traveling learning other languages and consuming your culture/media.

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>>9627
This might surprise today, but the Spaniards were described as melancholic, reserved, lordly and well... cruel, during the renaissence and up until the 19th century were we began to be described as joyous, festive and lazy. I still don't know what triggered that, but there are many "Spains". There are massive differences not only North-South but also East-West and among the communities inside. Part of what is Spain is also pure fake, Francoist propaganda using gypsy dances and music to make the country look more sympathetic and inoffensive abroad, shadows casted to blind foreigners but that have ended reaching us, and even we started to believe that that is what we are. Most of "Spanish culture" is made up, there is no real Spanish culture other than the regional ones although most share certain traditions of course. However, if you look at more traditional and old Spanish culture you can see that lordly, haughty, melancholic, spiritual and more dark nature of old Spain, for example in the processions, kinda contrasting with that image of innofensive always happy fiesta guy we have abroad today. And things like the run of the bulls were no more of a funny festivity than a real macho bravado to cull the weak and expose the youth to danger early on, now a watered down pathetic thing to attract tourists. In many regions we even used to set the horns of the bulls on fire, now banned in most communities. But it's probably better this way in this year and age, nothing is static anywhere.

>>9627
leon, north portugal, asturias and galicia share many cultural things

Surprised no one has mentioned Alaska not being a state of Canada, yet.

>>9602
fpbp

>>9628
Gibraltar, Castile, Murcia-Albacete, Asturias and Leon (both can be together)

>>9650
Gracias for your informative reply anon. Unfortunately most of us only know of the image sold abroad, which as you say is more of an Andalusian culture. I realise there are huge differences between regions in Spain.

I love some of those darker Catholic traditions like in your picture.

>>9650

Basque independence when?

>>9644
>the yank actually believes this
you're getting the fuck blown out of you by a kiwi at the moment

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>>9650
mfw people don't know about castilan paganism and winter mascarades

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>>9650
>>9658

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>>9656
the only original thing that they have is their language, even the blood is too mixed with other spaniards and you can see very similar the traditions in Cantabria and Castile

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>>9650
North of Spain is weird.

Witches, witches everywhere.

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>>9661
not only north

>>9660
lol this is true
genetic tests can't even distinguish between basques and other iberians but they always pull out their
>>>>muh 'original western europeans'
bullshit

this is a bait thread

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>>9661
They remind me of the bad guys in the 13th Warrior movie.

>>9663
If there is a pure-blooded Basque he has to be in an isolated cave

maketo es la raza

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>>9665
tiny spanish bonfire

>>9650
In Latin America we always thought of Spaniards as much darker and sinister than ourselves. So I guess we aren't the only ones who didn't suck up those lies.