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/pg/ - Persona General

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- LATEST NEWS -
> Persona 5 newest trailer translated: http://youtu.be/dEBVA-i90jM
> Persona 5 Info dump: pastebin.com/5M1rpQeH
> Persona 4:Dancing all night info: pastebin.com/LqjjLd9Z
> P4D Kanami trailer translated: http://youtu.be/G-PDS6Qz5ME
> Midsummer Knight's Dream BD released as of March 11th, 2015, Falling Down in theaters April 4th, 2015
> P4U2 confirmed to appear at EVO 2015
> P4U2 2.0 released in arcades on January 15th, 2015, console release date unconfirmed
> P4U2 Manga confirmed for Spring 2015
> P4DAN release date 6.25.2015 in Japan, NA TBA, First print copies come with exclusive Persona 5 footage
> P5 still scheduled for 2015 in both Japan and NA, simultaneous release for the PS3/PS4 versions, not the regions

- GUIDES -
> General Persona Guide
pastebin.com/eCHRjKCZ
> Persona Q Guide
pastebin.com/Bq16HvJh

- ULTIMAX LINKS -
> Starter guide/Golden arena info
pastebin.com/bhxwmZ1H
> P4U2 2.0 change list
docs.google.com/document/d/1csHKZLeZZx6U9Qa5EAKduNUtzUlqwdpDzrB0uOvKviQ/edit
> P4U/P4U2 Player List/ Image / Sound / Movie / Palette Rip / New Music Tracks
pastebin.com/gpCHdCDE

- DOWNLOADS -
> Art, Guides, Music and more
pastebin.com/Vh0CdRit
> Artbook, Soundtrack, Manga, and other downloads
pastebin.com/fgVp423S
> P4 Dengeki Comic Anthology
mediafire.com/?4kjjaf0jtw2jyj3
> Persona/SMT image collection
mediafire.com/?9j3us2v34coua

- MANGA -
> Scans
personascans.tumblr.com/
mediafire.com/personascans#unst48ukbu457
> Translated Scans
pastebin.com/CX8q1FLp
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For Kindness
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Gonna repeat myself here

>>97231407
One anon that seemed to have ties into the VA business stated that it's not really a union thing. It's Atlus USA being a shit company. Catherine, for example, was unionized.
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Snow princess
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For Yu
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There are so many fucking clickbait Persona 5 articles popping up every day that say nothing of substance at all.
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P5 news never
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I need to kill myself
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I tried
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>>97231702
You're a big gay.
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>>97231862
use a persona
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>>97231862
Unless you're Chihibro you should at least wait until after P5
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>>97231862
Hold on, take these guys >>97231627 >>97231640 with you.
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>>97231975
And that chihiro faggot.
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>they drew everyone underwater except Fuuka

Why?
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>mfw the school camp event
I'm glad P4G has a fast forward button so I don't have to sit through this now.
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>>97232047
No body likes Fuuka
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>>97232050

The last time I tried to play P4G after having beaten three times before I noticed I was fast forwarding through literally every piece of dialogue it let me skip through.

That's when I realized I was finally done with P4.
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>>97232050
I hope P5 has it too, I don't play these games for the story.
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>>97231975
For idols!
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>>97232050
You think that's bad?
I almost dropped the game when the festival and spring scene appeared
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>>97231702
>>97231915
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>>97232047
Fuuka can't swim.
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>>97232047
Swimming must be yet another thing Fuuka is shit at.
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For long hair
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>>97232202
Then why is she in the water?
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>>97232163
Why don't you just play regular MegaTen then
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>>97232171
Shadows are best girls.
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>>97232257
Short hair represent.
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>>97231975
did this babby seriously get triggered this hard by typical pointless first posts

wow, how do you even manage to stay alive if that makes you cry
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>>97232296
She's trying to sink, but the float won't let her.
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>>97231862
Take this guy >>97232335 too.
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>>97232257
The longest
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>>97232160
>>97232181
The school camping trip and the culture festival are the only ones I do this for. They were fun the first time, but in any subsequent playthrough they're just boring since nothing happens in them.

>>97232181
I mean, I'd hope P5 has a fast forward button. It's super convenient, and lets you skip shitty scenes when you're replaying the games.
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>>97232148
Man, I didn't notice it before but Kanamin's tits really are on the verge of popping that shirt.
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>>97232327
>>97232257
For P5 needs a bald waifu
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>>97232418
The best
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>>97232410
is it just an autistic fit you can't explain or something

not that it's very important, your tears are delicious either way
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>>97232462

She has 'meat in all the right places'.
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>>97232475
Waifu with cancer
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>>97232416
Not having him be silent would defeat the point to me. If you're gonna do that, you might as well just not even have dialogue prompts.
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>>97232427
>they're just boring since nothing happens in them.
This is like 90% of P4's group scenes
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>>97232517
On a bun, covered in condiments, on a plate, ready to be served?
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>>97231634
I don't doubt that with how popular Persona is getting they can't afford decent VAs that aren't the same five over and over, so I hope this time round Atlus USA takes some damn time with their casting choices and actually pay them.
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>>97232364
So she can swim, she just can't sink?
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Long hair doesn't have sex appeal.
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>>97232674
>>97232517
i want to flatten kanamin's titties in a grill press and eat them when they're cooked to perfection
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>>97232589
Nothing happens in any Persona game
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>>97232763
Short hair doesn't have long hair.
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>>97232783
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For best girl being cut for no apparent reason
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>>97232754
She can't swim, but she can float. When strapped to a flotation device.
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>>97232763
long hair has sex appeal if paired with large breasts
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>>97232812
I didnt mean it in a bad way.
A lot pf P4 is deliberately just slice of life stuff
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>>97232551
The fighting spin-off comment was a joke. What if the protagonist says what you choose them to say instead? It'd be a safe way of giving the protagonist a voice/semblance of self.
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>>97232942
I see no floatation device
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/pg/ - Hair general
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>>97232783
TIts are like mostly made of fat, that's not tasty
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>>97233057
This is because you are blind.
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>>97232937
Are you trying to make a funny?
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>>97232937
Chidori is literally poop
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>>97233105
Does Yukari have the best hair out of all the Purse Owners?
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>>97232986
I was responding to the making the protagonist less silent part. If you did that, you'd be making the protagonist more of a character. Which is of course completely fine. But it would not really feel right in Persona where the protagonists are kinda supposed to be self-inserts.
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>>97232937
The last movie will cut out Nyx
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>>97233105
Maggie has great hair
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>>97233236
no
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>>97233139
fat and milk
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>>97233189
I'm talking about the screentime anon.

She's a sharp girl, though
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>>97233236
It's pretty magical.
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>>97232517
>that disgusting spacing between her eyes

Fixed.
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>>97233161
The teal thing around her is her skirt it's not a donut or anything that's helping her float
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>>97233241
I gotcha. They do kinda have to be blank slates to fit the trend. Still, the whole thing about P5MC's silent act being a ruse makes me feel like he's actually gonna be somebody this time around. Dunno.
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>>97233236
No
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>>97232937
she's there, you blind fucks
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>>97233310
>>97233236
THE
UNSIGHTLY PINK SNIPER

UNSIGHTLY
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>>97233419
Mini chidori
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>>97233410
Mitsuru, along with everyone from 3 aside from Akihiko and Ken, looks fucking weird and blegh in Arena.
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>>97233502
Ken looks like Yukari in Arena.
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>>97233236
Maybe, but Naoto's is my favourite. I just wanna ruffle her hair, and run my fingers through it. I bet it smells nice.
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>>97233502
Junpei looks alright
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>>97233502
Fuuka looks fine
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>>97233502
Nigga Ken looks like his face is melting
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>>97233502
Aigis looks fine
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>>97233570
>I bet it smells nice.
It would smell like old leather, sweat, and mens shampoo
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>>97233502
But Aegis just looks like Aegis without the bow. I think it might be the bright shade of red on the lips that makes Mitsuru weird. Otherwise most of em look fine.
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>>97233419
Miniature Chidorin
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>>97233502
fock you
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>>97233718
>Not liking the smell of old leather, Naoto's sweat, and men's shampoo
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>>97233419
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>>97233718
No way.
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>>97233889
Shee looks so unamused it's almost funny
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>>97234132
Who is that? Will she be in P5?
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>>97233370
That was shopped. This is what she really looks like.
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>>97234535
God, the artist sucks
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>>97233105
>>97233264

Top taste.
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>>97234535
aye aye aye
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>>97234746
When will they answer what the VR residents are and where they come from?
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>>97233105
The best hairstyle is obviously twintails
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>>97234830
Never because they don't know either
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>>97234830
They come from the sea of the protags soul. Theo is from a different universe, so was that Margaret Sho saw.
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>>97234964
9 times out of 10 twintails are awful.
The super long Miku ones are the worst though.
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>>97233718
I bet she smells like Old Spice.
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>>97233105
Drills.
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>>97234964
Twintails are convulted and ugly
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>>97235220
I'd drill her
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>>97235220
>Mitsuru has four different fucking portraits

UNFAIR
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>>97235914
Anon, violence is not the answer.
This is the cure for pedophiles.
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>>97234964

Twintails are not normally a good hairstyle.

The fact that Rise rocks them so well is more a testament to her than the hairstyle.
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>>97231541
>Persona 5
so what would you like in the P5 collectors edition (if it happens)
>Arsene figure
>the blazer MC is wearing
>Artbook
>soundtrack
>the poster Atlus was giving at the concert
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>>97236089
A mask, a figurine of Arsene, and one Anzu.
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>>97236089

A mask, Morgana figurine
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>>97236089
If they gave a decent looking blazer, then the cost of the pack would go up by atleast $80 or more; a mask could be more fitting.
But everything else seems pretty good to me.
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>>97236165
I dunno, i'd rather have a Cu Chulain than a Anzu.
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>>97236089
A statue would be cool. Although I hope it won't turn out like the Bravely Default statue
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>>97236027
The fact that Rise rocks them so well is because she's a drawing.
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Is Chie pretty much the worst party member in P4? She gets no good spells at all.
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>>97236089
Catherine is great, but space is better.
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>>97236348

Plenty of other drawings fail to rock them.
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>>97236360
She's meant for physical attacks. Her spells are for knocking down only.
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>>97236360
In Vanilla she's the phys user of choice. Kanji doesn't get power charge in vanilla. Naoto is definitely worse in vanilla also.
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>>97236360
>misses everything
>dies easily
>Kanji is better physically
>she's shit

Duh
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>>97236419
even her physical spells suck
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>>97236449
>Kanji is better physically
Way to invalidate all your opinions
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>>97236449
>Misses everything
>Suggests Kanji when Kanji has the worst accuracy in the game
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which theology do you think P5 will pull from? P3 being very greek, and P4 being japland themed, I'm curious. Given that Arsene is a character from a book, it makes me wonder what else might be in store.
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>>97236430
People say Naoto is worse, but for 99% of the battles she can take part in, she's fine. She's not great for bosses, but most battles aren't boss battles.
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FOR RIGHTEOUSNESS!
FOR LOVELINESS!
FOR CUTENESS
FOR JUSTICE!
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>>97236360
No, that'd be Teddie or Naoto

>>97236449
>dies easily

You what? She has a fuckton of HP
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>>97236516
His Primal Force x2 is stronger than Chie's Power Charged God's Hand.
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>>97236516
>>97236548
>>97236512
>>97236449
>>97236430
>>97236419
>>97236360
>>97236650
Who the fuck cares the game is easy as shit
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>>97236681
Jack Frost will kill us all.
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Chie's thing is high crit phys skills. That's why giving her apt pupil in P4G was good. She's very useful against gold hands in P4G for that reason. At least until Almighty takes over as the preferred strategy for killing them.

She's also the only character that gets a meaningful progression of all-enemy phys skills. Because of that and her ability to crit hit so well, I prefer her to Kanji while exploring dungeons. Kanji is definitely better in boss fights though, except for Margaret where Dragon Hustle is so useful.
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>>97236751
And Chie's power charged godhand has more chances to hit and crit
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>>97236754
A lot of people do, for some reason. People even take pride when their favorite game is a 2/10 in terms of difficulty instead of a 1.5/10
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>>97236751
And wont hit shit because his accuracy sucks, and will only ever hit one target because he only gets single target attacks.
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>>97236516
Chie in vanilla is only good for early game where you don't have an alternative, and at the very end once she gets Agneyastra and God Hand. She has a huge lull in the mid levels where all she has is shit-tier AoE heat wave and single-target Black Spot that is outpreformed by Kanji's single-target skills. The only thing she really has over Kanji in that timeframe is maybe getting a status ailment off of Skull Cracker if you keep it around that long, and Galactic Punt.

Kanji also gets better buffs and spells than her and has more utility.

>>97236650
Technically she IS worse in vanilla than she is in Golden but she's still surprisingly useful in vanilla for trash fights.
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>>97232526
I wouldn't mind this in the slightest
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>>97236595
Arsene being a literary character really throws me for a loop, they've never really done much of those prior.
It could be fictional thieves/tricksters. Loki, Hermes (for the third time), Susanoo, Coyote, Wukong, Set
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>>97236650
Except that you can cheese out 99% of those battles with anyone else, yet when it comes to boss battles, Naoto becomes an item dispenser unless you equip her with the item that halves your SP skills.

>>97236754
Sure, let's just discuss about waifus and hairstyles instead
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>>97236912
They have difficulty levels for a reason. Just because you want to scrub it out on easy or normal doesn't mean the harder modes don't take more effort.
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>>97236998
>yet when it comes to boss battles, Naoto becomes an item dispenser unless you equip her with the item that halves your SP skills.
Naoto should always be running the Chakra Ring even outside of bossfights
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>>97236419
Well, I'm playing NG+ in vanilla and Chie is a very positive surprise so far. I'm at 44 level, just before Mitsuo shadow.

To be honest, she's the hardest hitting character for now - her ice spells kick ass, multi-hit physicals are nice, but I mainly use Kohryu to rape enemies anyway. I like that her follow-up attack is an instant kill. I also have had no problems with her missing. Maybe RNG is with me on this one.

Haven't had a single person die yet, except at Contrarian King when he Rampaged my ass at lvl 16. Mara with absorb physical makes this fight easy, though.

My team for original playthrough was Yosuke, Kanji and Yukiko. For this one, I kept in Chie instead of Kanji.
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>>97236824
>except for Margaret where Dragon Hustle is so useful
Yeah, and you can cast it once because it takes 80% of her SP.
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>>97237034
>Double HP double damage enemies
>More effort
More like more grinding and a larger time investment, but there aren't any strategies or weaknesses/immunities that change.

Which is really disappointing, games really need to do that. Wasn't someone working on a P3 Hard Mode at one point?
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>>97236992
what if there was an antagonist that was a police officer tasked with trying to catch/deal with the player's party that had a persona based off of sherlock or something?
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>>97237072
shame there's no items to reduce sp costs and recover sp
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>>97237034
I don't see what that has to do with anything I've said. Persona is always easy in all circumstances and people take their strategies too seriously or try to wear them like a badge of honor. There are strategies which are probably more optimal but anything works.
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>>97237072

You give her the item that halves SP consumption. She can use Dragon Hustle three times then without needing an item. That's good for 9 turns, which is more than worth it when it saves you so many turns on other characters casting buffs.
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>>97237057
>her ice spells kick ass
She doesn't learn any past bufu, how can that kick ass?
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>>97237057
I can't tell if you're joking
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>>97237141
Yes, increasing health and decreasing damage is how you make RPG's harder. It's how you make every game harder. I'm glad you know that.
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>>97236935
Chie is the crit machine, she is better than Kanji for 70% of fights
>>97237235
What? She can learn bufula and mabufula
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>>97236998
>Except that you can cheese out 99% of those battles with anyone else
You can cheese out any battle with anyone. But people still argue about whether to use Kanji or Chie when the real answer is both of them will kill anything.

Personally I like Naoto for most fights because she's the fastest and ends the battles in one turn. If a fight is going to be effortless it might as well be over instantly.
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I hope P5 takes some hints from some things in PQ. Elemental physical based attacks are really really nice to have.
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>>97237247
>>97237235
For now, Bufula hits nice. I have an accessory and the first ice boost. They are in different tiers so they don't stack and so, for now, it hits pretty well. More than Yosuke's Garula (with accessory) and Yukiko's fire spells. I guess she will get worse on mid game, but like I said, in NG+ team composition hardly matters. She will come back in full force where it matter.
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>>97237254
Or you give enemies less weaknesses, or more status effects or different movesets or some other things. But he has a point. Upping the hitpoints of an enemy doesn't really make it harder, just longer.
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>>97237412
i agree
the game ended up with hassou tobi spam due to some bad balance choices, but thunder smash was still great to have up until that point
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>>97236998
What does Maya's hair smell like?
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>>97237225
Now she doesn't have the SP to power charge and you're spending someone else's turn to give her SP

Dragon Hustle is one of those things that is great in theory but annoying in practice

>>97237286
Talking vanilla, where she doesn't get any crit ups and is stuck with Bufula/Mabufu for the whole game
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>>97237463
Oh I mean, so they stack.
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>>97237524
Cum
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>>97237156
I thought pretty much everyone agreed that there has to be a police detective rival. I mean, it's pretty much one of the foundations of the gentleman thief thing.

>>97237524
Canned crab
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>>97237490
But it does it make it harder. You use up more resources trying to win because they have more health.
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>>97237490
>more status effects
Persona needs stone. Bring back shock/freeze also.
Also, was charm removed in P4? I never saw it if it was.
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>Finally get round to watching Persona 4: The Golden
>In the last episode, Yu literally gets all his friends killed because he's worried that beating Izanami will stop him from being able to fuck Mari

The fuck, man.
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>>97237492
is Etrian Odyssey super similar in mechanics to PQ? I know it's a reskinned EO game with a few Persona mechanics, but holy shit, I'm loving it more than the normal Persona gameplay. Circles, Links, just so many nice additions mixed in with weakness exploits make it feel super fresh. Fuck, I love this game.
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>>97237380
Well, that much is true.
I ended up my first playthrough with Kanji, Naoto and Yukiko just because I liked those characters. Although Izanami was a bit too much of a hassle because of Naoto.
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>>97237640
why the fuck would you want to watch that shit
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>>97237540
missing two moves out of every 9 turns is still way better than other buffs
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>>97237540

You're spending one turn every nine rounds to give her SP. That's opposed to spending a bunch of turns casting the buffs individually every three rounds. Dragon Hustle is great. It is THE best extra skill for the all the party members, except maybe Yukiko's.

And you can still power charge. She has ~290 SP at level 99. With the half SP item dragon hustle cost 75 SP so using it three times takes 225 SP. Which leaves plenty of SP for 15 SP power charge.
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>>97237626
Except when resources are so common and so easy to replenish, it does nothing. It's like a bullet sponge boss in an FPS when you have a nearly endless supply of ammo. After the first dungeon (or few floors of Tartarus in the case of 3) SP isn't really much of an issue. Adding more HP only makes enemies more of a threat if they're actually a threat in the first place.
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>>97237627
Yeah, charm was removed and replaced with enervate, the most useless ailment.
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>>97237760
whoops, make that 4 since chie is casting three times in those 9 turns, not one
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>>97237831
I'm pretty sure P4 still has charm, it's just called something different.
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>>97237687
By Izanami you just Hossou-Tobi the fuck out of her anyway. You don't even really need teammates.
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>>97237701

Because I haven't seen it, so I didn't know it was shit until I started?

And the first episode was pretty fun. It kept getting worse, but there were some genuine highlights. The Adachi fight was pretty hype.
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>>97237905
It doesn't have it
They made confused enemies hit their allies, but that's it
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>>97237762
Maybe it's just a rhythm thing for me. I could never find a way to use Dragon Hustle that didn't mess me up later.

>>97237905
Confusion, but PCs won't heal enemies anymore.
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>>97238020
>PCs
Or enemies
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>>97237990
Isn't that what charm does? Your party members can get hit with confusion in P4 too.

>>97238020
Ahhhhh, okay. So that's the difference. I think that's fine.
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Didn't the namatame boss fight have charm?
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>>97237932
Last time I checked MAL everyone was complaining about it, everytime it's brought up either here, on /v/ or /a/ people shit on it so hard, it completely derails the thread and stops any other discussion. You were one step or post away from not wasting your time on that garbage.
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>>97238192
He'd control party members for a few turns. They'd never heal namatame, though. They'd attack you or "hesitate"
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>>97238192
It's not charm in the sense that it's a 'status ailment' but he does steal away your teammates.
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>>97238128
No, let me rephrase it

They removed charm ij P4 and just made enemies that were affected by confusion hit their allies and throw money
But charm used to make enemies hit their allies and heal enemies
Un P4 there is no way to make enemies heal allies
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>>97238192
It works a bit differently. It actually pulls your party members to him and can't be resisted (except in the sense that someone may struggle and refuse to attack you)
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>>97238276
So just like charm. Except they won't heal him.
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>>97238309
Yeah, I know. I don't have a problem with that.
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>>97238417
Oh okay
I'm the other guy you replied to, but i just wanted to make sure it was clear
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>>97238386
It was specific to his battle, though. You also couldn't break the effect through items.
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>>97238491
Gotcha, no worries.
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>>97238219

>genuinely letting other peoples opinions decide whether you give something a chance

I wouldn't recommend it as a whole to anybody, but there were a few scenes that are definitely worth a watch.
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>>97238376

What's this picture about?
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>>97231541
>yfw there will be teasers like this on 5/5/15
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>>97238687
The Namatame fight. They're charmed and fighting Yu but trying to resist it.
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>>97238687
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So, what's the story behind these guys?
I don't remember much from the game
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>>97238719
Maybe they'll give a sneak peek at what's on the disk that comes with DAN on 5/5/15.
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>>97238769
Japanese WWII fighters
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>>97238754
Is it party time?
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>>97238745

Oh, don't know why I didn't make the connection.

Probably because I was hugely overlevelled and steamrolled him in about three turns, so he never really got off many charms.
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I need to turn down Yukiko but I can't bring myself to do it. She's too sweet. Help me, /pg/.
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>>97238952
>Turning down the best romance option of P4
If you were going for Rise, that might be understandable, but still.
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>>97238952
Just do it. Be a man. A real man!
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>>97238952
chicken

captcha feeel
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>>97238952
Break her heart now and she won't suffer later
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>>97239036
>Best romance option
But he's talking about Yukiko, not ______
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>>97238952
What's with this influx of people having trouble turning down Yukiko?

I don't believe it, I think you're just trying to make her seem more popular.
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>>97239036
>implying I would turn down second best girl for worst girl

>>97239043
>>97239056
>>97239067
Fuck it, I'll just press the button quick and get it over with.

>>97239189
It's literally just one guy. Me. Two posts including the one I just made ain't really an influx. Yukiko seems like she would be popular with normalfags, though.
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>>97239380
>Yukiko seems like she would be popular with normalfags, though.
I've heard this said about Rise, too. And Chie. And Yukari. And probably a few others at some point.
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>>97239380
>Yukiko seems like she would be popular with normalfags, though
That'd be Chie
>loud, extroverted, loves movies, athletic
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>>97236089
Definitely a soundtrack
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>>97239487
>>97239472
>>97239380
All P4 girls except Naoto are popular for Normalfags
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>>97239380
I call it an influx because it's a really specific problem to have and it popped up more often than I'd expect in such a short timeframe (ie, more than once).

Though hearing that you're bringing up the topic again for some reason when we already went over it makes me wonder what were you expecting to hear.

>popular with normalfags
I thought that was Chie
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>>97239562
Are normalfags like fujoshi in that they're a mysterious "other" to which all strange, different, or unpalatable tastes can be applied to or blamed on?
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What if MC was a girl?
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>>97239674
she would be beautiful
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>>97239667
>a mysterious "other" to which all strange, different, or unpalatable tastes can be applied to or blamed on?
That's tumblr, normie and fujo have definitions. Not that I'm complaining about it
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>>97239472
>>97239487
I'd figure Yukiko would be popular with normalfags because she's nice but pretty bland and thus relatively inoffensive. I could see a lot of more casual players thinking Chie or Rise are kinda obnoxious.
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>>97239674
Female MC is best girl
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>>97239674
What do you mean "what if?"
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>>97239792
Normies don't want nice, proper girls.

>>97239674
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>>97239826
>implying
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>>97239953
well that fits since naoto and MC are the same person
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>>97239776
Tumblr has a definition too

>>97239792
She's bland in a way that is profoundly unfun.
Chie and Rise are more fun. If you do things with them you will have more fun. Normalfags like fun. If fun is too intense for you, you go with Yukiko.
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>>97240037
tfw I still think naoto and MC are blood related
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>>97240065
I like fun, and I like Yuki-chan
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>>97240065
>demi-girl

I didn't know tumblr liked Nocturne
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>>97240176
Can Kou join them? He's an orphan too.
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>>97239953
>short hair
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>>97240065
Yukiko isn't bland, she's subtle
>>97240234
The correct term is "femi-fiend"
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>>97240234
Demi-girl best protagonist
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>>97240262
Go away
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>>97240262
As long as we can agree that Lucina is best girl, we can put aside our hair differences for now.
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I want to marry Lucinaoto!
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>>97240237
Blue hair kills
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>>97240394
>Lucina is best girl

There's so fucking many though you can't choose just one
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>>97240432
Only if it's natural.
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>>97240565
Yes. Dyed hair doesn't count. But if your dad catches you with dyed hair he may kill you.
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>>97240558
I chose just one. Although Anna is a close second, and Lissa is just behind her.

Wait, shit. You're right.
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>>97239953
Don't compare my waifu to the plank of wood with the personality of a block of wood.
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>>97240681
We should just merge. It's not like we're any different from /smtg/ nowadays anyway.
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>>97240681
It looks like he's about to put his mouth on Pixie's butt.

I wanna put my mouth on Pixie's butt.
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/pg/ - /feg/ and /smtg/ general
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>>97240790
Nah
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http://strawpoll.me/3873647
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>>97240829
More like

/pg/ - Shitposting retards general
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>>97240790
pride too strong
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>>97240743
I'm a Naotofag and a Lucinafag. Get at me, dork.
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>>97240790
Because you keep posting here instead of even attempting to breathe any kind of life into your dead general

>>97240919
It's saturday in burgerland so the shitposting goes up as all the underage don't have school
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>>97240790

We should not merge. Let /smtg/ die, then try to bring back the thread several times only to die quickly each time. Then /smtg/ regulars pile into /pg/ until they get reported and banned. Then finally after much begging and groveling, we'll become the /smtg/ of old and go back to the timeless SMT/Persona arguments.
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>>97240937
>more than one waifu

Die
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>>97238603
>genuinely letting other peoples opinions decide whether you give something a chance
Why the hell not? When every place you check shits on it and lists pretty much the same reasons why it's bad, no matter where you go then there must be something wrong with it. If you are familiar with the franchise/source material you can also determine if you are going to enjoy or hate it by looking at the complaints. Just repeating other peoples' opinion sure is retarded, but reviews like that also work as warnings. The few scenes you mentioned, and I'm guessing are the Adachi episodes and the Christmas, episode are nice to watch and are also brought up every time someone asks if P4GA is worth watching.
Here, have this http://myanimelist.net/anime/19315/Pupa . Would you really watch it after reading other peoples experiences? Do you really need to experience the shittness yourself?
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>>97240829
so /jrpg/ pretty much ?
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>>97240681

Best Hero and Partner.

Adam and Eve, Clone Jesus and Mother-Girlfriend, Samurai and Wristwatch AI need not apply.
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>>97241095
Fire emblem is not a JRPG.
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>>97241095
who dis
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>>97240937
If you can tell the difference and understand that Naoto is better, you're fine. Otherwise, I just think you're a manwhore who likes the color blue.
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>>97241019
>implying Lucina is my waifu and not just my favourite girl from FE:A
>implying I should handicap myself by not marrying my player character just because I have a waifu
>implying I don't like Lucina because she's the most like muh waifu Naoto
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>>97241189
Some girl Soejima drew.
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>>97241148
well according to their fans FE became a waifu simulator so might as well put it as whatever you want now really
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>>97241126
>Samurai and Wristwatch AI need not apply.
>>
ayy
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For Aigis a new Marie
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>>97241069
Because if you do see it you will understand why it is bad and be able to voice that opinion without relying only on what other people have told you. You can form an opinion for yourself. In this case it probably will be the same as the general consensus but if you're invested enough in the franchise to regular a board dedicated for it, and you're interested in this spinoff/in why everyone says it's so bad, there's no reason not to experience it yourself so that you can really understand what other people are talking about when they bring the subject up.
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>>97241202
I only even like Lucina because she's like a slightly lower quality Naoto. And green is my favourite colour.
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>>97241253
I wish I could draw.
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>>97241189
She reminds me of the movie theater girl from Innocent Sin
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>>97241271
No. That's like saying Dark Souls is not a JRPG.

>>97241305
So Cloud was the new squall?
Vaan was the new Lightning?
Tatsuya was the new Yu?
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>>97241362
I wish i could draw Naoto in a potato boat
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>>97241362
Then start drawing
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>>97241272

Go away, Tatsuya.

At least Demi-Fiend had the balls to kill his friends. You just moped around because yours forgot about you.
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>>97241450
A boat made out of potatoes or a giant potato functioning as a boat?

>>97241409
DARK SOULS IS NOT A JRPG, WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU?
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>>97241450
Damn, I forgot I wanted to see that.

>>97241491
Unless he resets reality so his friends remember nothing.
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>>97241465
It always turns out shitty though.

Then I give up and look at good drawings on the internet.
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>>97241491

To be fair, the Demi-Fiend had quite possibly the shittiest friends in existence. He probably wanted to kill them before the game even started.

The fact that their Reasons were stupid just made it even easier.
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>>97241564
a normal potato as a boat
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>>97241564
>A boat made out of potatoes or a giant potato functioning as a boat?
Yes.
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>>97241564
I can't for the life of me understand how people think JRPG and WRPG are different genres of RPG as opposed to a geographic difference. Let's put our heads together here, folks. JRPG stands for Japanese Role-Playing Game. WRPG stands for Western Role-Playing Game. In an ideal world these stupid titles wouldn't exist because in the end, regardless of where a game is made, it's a ROLE-PLAYING GAME. Regardless, we're stuck with the names, but every time there's a discussion on the top WRPG of the year, some fool has to mention Dark Souls.

It's a JRPG. No, JRPG is not a genre. Action RPG is a genre, which Dark Souls is.

And I know some people will say, "but Dark Souls is nothing like Final Fantasy." That's because Final Fantasy isn't an action-RPG, but they're both JRPGs. You wouldn't go and say King's Bounty and Deus Ex aren't both WRPGs because they play completely differently from one another, so why try and separate Dark Souls from other JRPGs?

Dark Souls is just as much of an action-RPG as Tales of Vesperia is and just as much of an action-RPG as Mass Effect is. You are in full control of your characters actions and success is based just as much on your reflexes as it is your stats.

So let's stamp out the ignorance already, JRPG is not a genre. I don't get why so many users here try and act like JRPGs all suck, but when they find one they like, it suddenly isn't a JRPG.
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>>97241491
>Demi-Fiend had the balls to kill his friends.
I just started Nocturne, do I actually get to fight them in their pseudo-fiend forms, or do they die in a cutscene or some bullshit.
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>>97241619
Pretty much. Even MC and Yu wouldn't bond with those assholes.

"Sorry, you took too long risking your life to save me. Guess I need to make my own world now and kill everyone who disagrees."
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>>97241609
You don't just magically become good at something,you know. Especially not drawing.
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>>97241609
They'll always be shitty for the first few years but if you get past that eventually you'll start making stuff that's good

It's really a matter of sticking to it if it's just a hobby thing
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>>97241772
They fuse with their Reason Gods and you get to fight them. They get an exclusive boss theme, it's pretty tight.
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>>97241767
JRPGs and WRPGs are dramatically different, hence why they're treated as different genres, eve though in reality they are just one genre.
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>>97241619
>>97241791
Apparently there's some scenes that didn't make it in the game which showed why they get all pissy.
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>>97241772

Unless you side with them, or just choose the Demon ending, you're obliged to kill at least one of your friends in a boss battle.

If you go world of silence, true demon or freedom, then you have to kill both.
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>>97241898
Anywhere saying what the content/script of the scenes was?
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>>97241976
>world of silence
I take it that's similar to the white ending in SMTIV?
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>>97238952
Do it and then proceed to fuck her best friend
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>>97241767
JRPG kinda is a genre, though. Yes, it is synonymous with turn based RPG's like Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest, etc. so people will use the term JRPG to refer to those games. I never said Dark Souls was a WRPG, just that it wasn't a JRPG. But obviously there are problems with a genre being specified by where it was made. If I had it my way, the terms JRPG and WRPG would both disappear from existence and we'd be more specific with what games are called. Although, I have problems with a lot of games being called RPG's in any capacity, but that's kinda unrelated.

And sorry if this post is disjointed or I accidentally repeated what you said or something, I'm pretty tired.
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>>97242154
I'm pretty sure you're responding to a pasta
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>>97241986

It's stupid. He picks up a message from the teacher he has a crush on asking the Demi-Fiend to come and save her.

He freaks out because he realizes that he's literally a fucking nobody in the vortex world and starts to resent the Demi-Fiend.

He's like a fusion between the worst parts of Yosuke and Junpei.
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>>97241976
I've only briefly read about the story since I was interested and don't care about spoilers before playing an SMT game, but doesn't one of the endings have them both alive in the end, after you like reset the world or some shit?
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>>97241986
I forget, sorry.

It may have not been real, I really forgot.
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>>97242278
Yeah, Freedom ending resets the world.
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>>97242260
sounds like some Kenji in there
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>>97242065

No, it's an actual world where everybody achieves union with the universe, essentially a universal Nirvana.

Unfortunately, reaching that state requires giving up all emotion and desire, along with much of your sense of self.

It's better than the White ending, in that it's an actual ending.
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>>97242248
Well fuck me, then.
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>>97242154
You basically did. But if we're classifying it as a WRPG or JRPG, it's a JRPG.
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>>97241220
In that case, be more clear with your statements
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>>97242278

Freedom ending.

You reset the world, and Lucifer sends you an email telling you to keep your demon powers because YHVH is a little unhappy that you derailed millenia of work and killed his alter-ego.
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>>97241310
Those people suffer and sacrifice themselves so you don't have to. You don't have to have and voice your opinion on everything, leave it to the poor people who fell for the trap because they didn't do any research or had to experience it when it was still airing. You also don't need to experience somehting to fully understand why it's bad. Do you need to be hit by a car to understand why running over people is bad? Do you need to put your cat in a washing machine and turn in on to see it won't end well? Saying "they cut out tons of stuff, replaced x with y, changed a for b" and giving exapmles in general is enough to understand what is so bad with something and why people hate it so much.
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>>97238603
Its worth watching at 4x speed, but playing it normally whenever waifu of your choice is on screen.

The Christmas episode is great from start to finish though.
Kinda like Maries dungeon in game, they snuck in one good thing to surprise you
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>>97242375

The Demi-Fiend has terrible friends.
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>>97242510
But maybe I just want the experience of shoving a cat into a washing machine

Definitely would have a story to tell afterwards.
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>>97242278

That's the Freedom ending.
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nothing better than autistically fusing over and over until you get victory cry from a skill change day
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>>97241828
>>97241852
>tfw can't be good immediately
>have to withstand my own shitty drawings for years before they're good

Life sucks
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>>97242912
The true benefit of getting into drawing early in life is that you can't tell your drawings are shit
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>>97242832
I like the way they changed fusion in P4G. I found myself spending more time deciding what skills I should take on Personas when I can choose what I want over the game doing it for me and getting the one or two skills I wanted in the first place.
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>>97242984
It's a little too late for that.
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>>97243028
it still is up for the game to decide if tetrakarn or makarakarn or repel physical becomes victory cry though
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>>97242912
As somebody who plays guitar, it's kinda like learning to play an instrument in some ways. You know you're shit early on, and that you're gonna be shit for a while, but you wanna keep improving because progress is fulfilling, and seeing that improvement is really satisfying. And then one day you'll be able to do shit you didn't even think was possible to do when you first started out. Pick up a pencil, get drawing, and don't give up. You can do it, anon.
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>>97243138
Nah, I'll just accept the fact I can't draw for shit.
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>>97243590
Could always get good at photoshop.
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>>97243590
Well then, you're hopeless. Enjoy being Adachi.

Or do this: >>97243707
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>>97243590
what a pussy
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>>97243707
>>97243751
I'm actually okay at photoshop.
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Goodnight /pg/
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>>97244010
G'night, /v/
>>
Are the PS2 Classics in PS3 versions of Persona any inferior/superior to the PS2 version? Are there any glitches or are completly safe to play?
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>>97244184
I'd say their the same nowadays. There used to be some save glitches, but it's fixed.
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>>97244184
I haven't heard anything about the Persona games. I believe Digital Devil Saga has audio issues, though.
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>>97244253
Great. That's why I'm asking. I read about the save glitches but if they're fixed, great! I'll start playing PS3:FES then. Thanks.
>>97244295
Oh, that's unfortunate. I hope that Persona games doesn't have that kind of issues.
>>
>Multiple opportunities to hit on the other girls over the course of the game's story
>You can even hit on Kanji and Yosuke
>Can't flirt with Naoto outside of her social link
>She's not present for 80% of the game, and most of the new events in P4G
>She doesn't even wear a kimono on New Year's Day
Being a Naotofag is true suffering.
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>>97244396
That's great to hear!
Remember that there's a guide in the OP that will help you a lot
Feel free to ask whatever questions you have
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>>97244536

>implying it isn't completely within character for Naoto not to have a kimono
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>>97244536
>no long hair

truly suffering
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>>97244725
It's in character, and I'd be surprised if she wore a kimono

But man, IT'S JUST UNFAIR.

>>97244832
>Activate ignore mode
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What do you think of the Movies? /pg/?

I liked Fuuka's introduction in the first one a lot
The second one protrayed Ken and Shinji well, and Aigis introduction was kind of awkward
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>>97244832
I hope her PxDN outfit is DLC or already in the game.
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>>97244536
>She doesn't even wear a kimono on New Year's Day
She isnt the type to wear one.
If you wanted your qt traditional Jap outfits you should have picked a waifu like Yukiko
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>>97244886
Go away.
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>>97244886
Frankly I don't want to watch the second movie after reading that she gets shafted in favor of Robutt
The first one was fun to watch though.
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>>97244536
>can hit on my girl basically every time
>she's around from before the campout, which i think is the very first event
>is present for nearly the entire game
>wears a kimono on new years day
woe is you
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>>97244923
I will buy the game if it is.
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>>97244998
>Tells the other guy to go away asking for a discussion of something on topic in a thread for said discussion.

What is the damn logic you people have? The Smash stuff last thread was apparently fine, but suddenly this other guy's question isn't?
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>>97244886
I liked the parts of the first one where they kept zooming in on Yukari's thighs.

I can't take any of the drama in the second one seriously though, which is weird because I really let the game sucker me into its angsty stuff.

Beyond hyped for an Answer movie. I still think it will get made, and I still think it'll end up being the one good one.
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>>97245059
I-It's just not fair.

Why did us Naotofags have to get the short end of the stick? Why is Atlus so cruel?
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>>97245032
You still should, tho
Many parts of the movie are great
Like Ken and Koro's intro

>>97245249
Dude, you gotta learn to ignore blatant shitposting
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>>97242470
>Pope-Kino
>FemRance
>Anna

Good taste. Lady's kind of a bitch but we can let that one slide.
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>>97245270
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>>97245249
Lurk for a while longer and maybe you'll start to understand
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>>97245375
Are you laughing at the webm, or the idea of an Answer movie?
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>>97245289
at least you have my respect
unlike certain fags
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>>97245469
webm

Answer movie mite b cool unless it's directed by the P4GA guy
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So, have we ever figured out why the only good waifus have a native arcana lower than five?
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>>97245710
This bait is old
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>>97245710
no greater than five, I mean

this includes five, but not the things higher than five
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>>97245710
Nice meme picture!
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>>97245710
Not to mention the only good fanbases, look at all the butthurt coming from the aigisifags and chiefags and mariefags and whoever else, just since they're waifu's got called bad
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>>97245710
Because they are the closest to infinite possibilities concerning the Fool.
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>>97246060
Zen and food obsessed Maki are too cute
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>>97246060
It can't be that, because Liz and Aigis, who start with Chariot and World, both gain Fool and it doesn't stop them from being shit.
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>>97246295
How can someone have such bad taste?
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>>97246394
Oh sorry I was wrong, additional superpowers are what make a good character
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>>97246484
Get good
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>>97245710
Elly had Judgement all to herself, which would make her stronger than all of IT together right?
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>>97246484
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>>97246682
This. Why can't everyone just get along?
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>>97246682
In the name of love?
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>>97246726
>Why can't everyone just get along?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jx0lRaW5VCw
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>>97246682
You can't stop https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2juNu52zNY0
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>>97234510
Yes, according to tumblr
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light>fire>thunder>ice>darkness>wind
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>>97247041
darkness > all
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>>97247083
edge>all
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>>97247156
*teleports behind edge*
psh, nothin' personnel edge...
>>
>>97247083
>>97247156
Love > all
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>>97247280
Love with edge >all
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>>97247041
Thunder>Ice>Fire>wind>Almighty>Dark/light
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>>97247280
sorry you need to be an actual element to qualify

edge is obviously dark (like my bleeding soul)
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>>97247382
You're just like my dad.
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>>97247280
Friendship > all
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>>97247382
heart > all
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>>97241450
how the fuck do potatos look
why are they so hard to draw
how do you make things look like a potato
fuck this shit
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>>97247492
This
Friendship is literally the best element
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>>97247565
That's a nice drawing anon.
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>>97247565
Anon, i love you for this
Thank you
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>>97247492
Go away Yu.
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>>97247565
Now draw it without her hat
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>>97247846
Better yet draw her with long hair
>>
The Taurus Shrine music is fucking amazing.
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>>97248212
which track?
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>>97247726
thank you
>>97247737
nigga the boat doesn't even look like a potato yet, that's not what you wanted to see
>>97247846
never said I can draw. the only reason she is not wearing a moth skin is because she didn't look Naoto enough and a moth head on top of a hat looked silly
She looks too much like Aigis without the hat, draing her with long hair probably was a better idea
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>>97248212
P2 secretly has the best OST in the series, just don't let the P3 fans hear you say it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAdwR8PQ_WI
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>>97249038
I'm a P3fag, but even I admit that P2 had an amazing soundtrack.
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