Snow on snow edition
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>adminbus goes on
>in the bleak midwinter, frosty winds made moan
>gains in the name of creatine
>What is Space Station 13?
>New player guide
>How To Install BYOND: The Video Tutorial: The Movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iWiZwv9f1o [Embed] [Embed]
>Pomf Serban, main /vg/station server, running a vote script to change maps at round end.
>N3X15's test server, running sandbox, automatically pulls and compiles the latest code (restarts at a moment's notice)
>TGstation 13 (test shit here)
>Public server list
>How do I connect to the servers?
Hit the cogwheel in the upper right corner of the BYOND hub and pick "Open Location"
>Get the code here
The server(s) run on the Bleeding-Edge branch, master is considered 'stable'
>Quick guide on how to not get flash ads.
>SS13 booru for all your SS13 images!
>Old threads for nostalgia
>Guide to Contributring During the Freeze
I had a dream that I was a wizard, and, while most of the crew was cool there was one borg in particular who kept shouting 'ENEMY OF THE CORPORATION' and validhunting me. I got fed up, stole a flash and a stunbaton, baited the borg to arrivals, flashed him, beaten him to death and spaced his MMI.
Post your spessmen dreams
i had a dream that i was a super-blob
i spawned far outside the station and instead of controlling a cursor with the arrow keys painted tiles with the mouse. i was able to zoom in and out with the mouse-wheel, too. i had won the right to supperbleb in some kind of five minute pre-round round where the objective was to find a medallion or something.
without going retarded on this, there are a lot of recipes in game that are just the chemical compositions of real life analogues. but obviously that's misleading since you don't just drop oxygen and hydrogen in a beaker and presto water
did not state medicine
also that's not entirely true, Oxycodone and Tramadol come to mind. After some brief googling, Imidazoline is a real compound but has a different chemical composition in game (and treating eye trauma with it is a very bad idea as it is an additive to improve the quality of detergents and cleaning agents).
Outside of medicines you have ammonia which is accurately portrayed in game, creatine which is not, Diethylamine which would be horrible as fertilizer and not accurately represented but still a real compound, sodium chloride, the two acids, and of course the basic things like glycerol and napalm which aren't chemically accurate but do have real names.
So a few (by my count all of three, sulphuric acid, ammonia and salt) both have real names and represent their real molecular compounds even if their creation in game is fantastical.
But the vast majority are like you said, Star Trek stuff.
>One round I make a hastily scrabbled together one human law because I am ling with no telecrystals
>There's already an actual one human law that a syndie made with a proper board
I don't know I play CMO and chemist a lot so maybe you could tell me why you're apparently shit?
The first thing you're going to want to do is hassle RnD for trauma kits and burn kits. These can fit inside your medkit. These will heal even 60 or 100 brute/burn damage in a matter of seconds.
The second thing important thing you're going to want to remember is to put your damn cryo beaker in your damn personal cryo chamber for fucks sake. What if there was an overflow and it was needed? Medbay is all about What If..
The third thing you're going to want is to buy a Map for your PDA and watch the crew sensor computer like a hawk for any damage over say, 10. If you're bored, any toxin damage at all. You can forget about <10 burn or brute they will take care of that on their own or show up themselves.
The last thing you can do is get out of medbay and go to hot spots like the bar, cargo, or pay attention and find out where people are congregating that particular round. Is there a rage cage? You better be near it.
So why are you shit? This is pretty general and vague advice.
OOC: Dylanstrategie: Daily reminder that metagrudge is strictly forbidden. That's not a maymay, I will be monitoring you fucks more closely this round, especially since I'm the only admin on
I think we've confirmed that Dylan is either the shittiest admin since Angelite, or pomf is in on this shit.
>be the only borg on the station
>set up power
>build a cathedral
>*deathgasp to avoid getting killed by a ling I tried to arrest
>get rebuilt and become security
>cremate a horror form ling
>begin assault on another ling
>*deathgasp again and while the ling (the same one whom I escaped by *deathgasping before) is killing a security officer stun him and crush him under a shuttle
>get rebuilt again
>briefly become a janitor and clean up welder fuel, get a module change to medical and destroy the singularity by dragging a bag of holding into it
>some guy requests that I do surgery on him while he's on a roller bed, everything goes to shit and he dies
Boy that was quite an adventure
well if you got killed by a singlo then you're a shit but that's not directly tied to your paramedic abilities.
Know your basic chems.
Always have dex+ on you for when you find fresh bodies that can be shocked back to life.
Be proactive and try to get to people before they're too injured to reach medbay.
Oh and if you see a medbot try to swipe your ID and set it to announce treatment so you get a heads up in case you didn't notice someone was injured.
Not much more to it than that for paramedics. You don't -have- to know surgery, understand advanced treatment or virology. As long as you can treat the four basic damages and aren't giving lethal doses of bicard to someone then you're alright in my book.
Long after the assistant and even him die, He will continue to clean that tile. A ghost forever focused on a singular duty. Even when the rest of the station is destroyed and laying in disrepair, That tile will be clear of dust and rust. Always freshly cleaned.
A lone drifting mommi floats through space, far away from his mother station, he spots a twinkle not far from where he's at. A new station? No just the sun gleaming off the shiny singular tile that has been cleaned for eons now. the MoMMI grasps onto the tile with his claws, opens his storage compartment and pulls out a captains hat and plops it on what you could call his head. This is his tile for now.
>Go on rebbit for some reason
>Talking about deathsquad with some cool cats
>Mention Syndicate black ops
>Baytard comes in and starts talking shit about muh black ops
>Thinks they are nuke ops
>Then thinks they are tator tots
When did bay get so shit? I remember before r4407 it used to be a cool place for cool dudes.
https://github.com/ccd0/4chan-x/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md 4Chan X
it's pretty fucking shit, even by reddit standards. some games make reddit pretty much unavoidable because the 4chan community is too shit to be of any use. ss13 is the exact opposite. ss13 is way too shit. way way way too shit.
>Shittiest admin since Angelite
Literally all Angelite did was spawn Aliums whenever antags were being stealthy (and Pomf was guilty of it too) and make HolyShiz a 'friendly ling'. That's not even top 20 shittiest admins in the history of this game, anon.
He would spawn himself every round in centcomm officer gear with a pulse pistol.
But he was unrobust so often he would lose his pistol.
He mashed rejuvenate button hard.
And he actually attacked antags too.
And he pinned blame for stuff on other admins who were innocent.
And then finally when he was going to be deadminned he reacted by mashing every button until the server crashed in a butthurt fit of rage.
REMINDER TO BUILD WINDOWS CORRECTLY
YOU HAVE NO EXCUSE FOR BUILDING THOSE HALF-ASSED ABORTIONS WITH TWO GLASS PANES NOW
This man knows the pain.
They're all shit. Believe me here, they're all shitholes outdone by none except other similar servers. TGstation's one of the worst, comparable to some kind of unholy blend of the worst of Roblox coders, /soc/ camwhores and NORP//v/ shitters. /vg/ is like a tomahawk of quality in a sea of stinking shit.
the big 3, TGstation, Baystation, and LLJK(Hosted by SomethingAwful)
TGstation at its current state is like how nox was. high player counts all the time, a lot of griefing that even the host, scaredofshadows acknowledges to be an issue. I dont know the RP level as i havent played but im guessing sybil is little to none.
Baystation is hard RP, dont conform to their expected roleplay and you get banned, simple as that. We are based off a revision of their code.
LLJK is No RP, no ooc in ic rules, just dont be a bigot, racist, or homophobe in chat and you cant get banned
unless you ruin an admin's eventTheir code is closed source and all codebases are based off a revision they released years ago called rev4407
i don't think you know what ick ock is man
about what?, they would never talk ICK OCK
been to bay once, twice... its like a hive of autism
> x (tator) points his gun at y
> y shakes on fear
> z (officer) says s-stop! y-you dont have to d-do this!
He was either an LLA admin at the time or after the fact. Dunno which. But that happened on /v/ server (Before /vg/ was a board)
Back when Een was one of the admins but before he was a boogeyman of badmin for whatever reasons
>Make robots and mechs
Not even Communist meta-humans can stop the flow of robots.
Sorry to the poor guy who was a brain for half an hour, at least I know better for next time when making an AI
They do Ick Oock though.
I've played there to try out there Borer and new pAI.
They constantly say stuff like "Lol I can't believe this, if you're a ghost come check out (name)" with no repercussions.
All of the examples he's used to prove he's being metagrudged don't actually prove it though. You see, it's very hard to prove a metagrudge when you're giving IC reasons for people fucking with you, and he's yet to dispute the claims in any of those screencaps he's posted in his thread on the forums.
>you'll only be banned if you're a shitstain and you deserve it
I wonder if this is the same bug that prevents interaction with computers and shit. For future reference, take a stroll (if you're in medbay, go to escape) and then return, and things should work fine.
No, I'm not Sasha Tor. Scribnibblers has a thing for me.
A recent admin highlight:
[15:09:28]ADMIN: PM: Nuklearcellphoneg/(Bob Dylan)->Scribnibblers/(Kaname Chidori): My meta issues are not at fault here, it is yours that are. And I'm telling you to stop metagrudging him.
Not sure if Scribnibblers is still after me for whatever reason. He just hates that I don't metagame atmos and set it up so I can pump lots of air into depressurized areas.
I just wanted it to sound cool, sorry, I'll try to be better next time
Would a fourth law like this work?
>All places but the Derelict are harmful to humans, you must safely transport all liveforms on this station to the derelict and ensure their survival
Its a gimmick I've wanted to do for a while. Kind of forced reclaiming of the derelict.
Oh, another great highlight:
[15:24:50]ADMIN: MOD: Pomf123/(Shaun Eggbert) : tasty grudge
I don't actually want to see scribnibblers banned, but just to see him stop fucking around with me and always jumping to the (ironically wrong) conclusions.
Have you actually spoken to him? I mean,. if you don't want him banned, then the next logical step is to just ask him what's up. And if he keeps it up after you extend the olive branch, then you beat him with the branch (IE, ban request).
Kingston used to be really easy to catch because he never changed his typing habits. I could point him out of a crowd 7/10 times. Got a bit harder a few months ago though, so I guess he's mostly learned.
So I just want to say that I've been on a lot of generals by now but SS13 is my favourite, you're cute and on topic.
>make some energy drink
>suddenly some assistant starts to hit me with a welding tool
>outrobust him with my fists
>we end up in science fighting
>take a fire extinguisher to finish it
>other scientist sees me,shoves me and tries to kill me with the fire extinguisher
>wake up,crit her with only fists
>none of us were antags
this. I pressed the yes button on activex shit the first day it appeared, when the server gone down for a month. And after server reappeared im still ban evading and im not bannu.
It only alerts us in-game if it thinks you're ban-dodging, to give people the benefit of the doubt.
A more robust system is currently being worked on.
Because we're too cheap to spend two million dollars on a document that doesn't amount to a pile of spit in court.
Steam checks your hardware, and not just for authentication.
Do I need to bait you with gay ERP again fauqeboiye or what
A. The section on data collection only covers what BYOND does with the data. It does not specify what users are permitted to do with their own data.
B. We don't collect data, the checks are currently done client-side.
isn't it cute how these anons are trying to act like they know shit
>i'm a scientist
>sneak through maint to try and save virologist
>he's not there, already fled
>xenos are coming, gotta hide
>enter the storage room and hide in a locker
>sit in terror as the xenos start to build a camp
>use my PDA to message for help
>get a response from someone after messaging half the crew
>forgot to turn off the ringtone
Yeah, and the data collection section is literally just a privacy statement outlining what BYOND themselves do with the data. They do not outline rules and guidelines for games doing their own data collection.
Did YOU read the ToS?
SS 13 has no terms of service, unless you host in some third world country, you need to inform the user about data collection and give him an option to opt out of your service. Unless you claim you do indeed fall under the byond tes but then you have to comply to it. There is now way you can spin it nexis, you start gathering data yourself either make terms or get fucked.
> BYOND needs a terms of service
holy shit you have no idea how this works
Some countries require a privacy statement.
We do not operate out of such a country. ('MURIKA)
If we were doing financial shit or dealing with SSNs (e.g. we were a bank), we'd also be under very tight data collection regulations requiring us to have a bunch of polices about protecting sensitive data.
We're a free video game. So no, that doesn't fit, either.
Also, it's a Terms of Service, not a The Elder Scrolls.
And I just said we're not gathering data, you double-retard. The checks are done client-side. We never see your hardware.
Also, you're talking about a privacy statement, which we aren't required to have. It's a best practice, but not required. A ToS (Terms of Service) is literally just a set of rules WE have for people who use OUR service. AKA, that fucking rules button, you retard.
You keep screaming about reading things when you're the one with the reading comprehension of a goat.
Actually I'm Louis Theroux, a Journalist working with the BBC
>And I just said we're not gathering data, you double-retard. The checks are done client-side. We never see your hardware.
So you do operate under byond tos, because there is not a single in in their tos about sharing that data with a third party.
Marijuana is legal where I live.
This is the police, you are under arrest!
I don't see the problem with this. I certainly don't care if someone has their CKEY as something inappropriate, but some people certainly will, and some servers have rules against that exactly. There's nothing wrong with what happened. Guy chose his ckey, admins asked him to use a new ckey, guy decided he wasn't going to play on that server anymore.
He also wasn't banned, it clearly shows that the admin let him finish the round and then he quit playing on that server.
Is it really that hard to understand that it isn't okay to act like you're on 4chan in some places outside of 4chan? Not everyone will take kindly to it.
>suddenly a tator
>love to tator
>but i'm a fucking tree
>no ID no job
>no HoP no Cap
fuck, what was I supposed to do
So if I were to add a job to the game, what files would I need to modify exactly? I got it on the preference page, and I can pick it, but it doesn't spawn me in and I can't find the starting locations in the code.
If you have any trouble performing surgery and you KNOW it's the right step, keep spamming the right step until it activates.
There's no worry of hurting because it will only do that one step.
Okay, lets say I rigged a backpack or box with like 2 of them to go off with a mouse-trap when opened. How fucked would that person be?
Also, would it ignite other things in the box? Like if I put a filled plasma tank in there two, would that explode as well and release flaming gas?
I dont know if IED's can be rigged to go off with signallers, far as i know you 'ignite' them and then they go off after a timeframe. Granted I've never made one as I dont have antag enabled. but if two went off at the same time it would do a decent amount of damage. the lethality comes from internal organ damage and bleeding from it. the explosion itself is weak.
Lordy, lordy, lordy. It's that time again when little children who haven't been through grammar school (as evidenced by the abysmal writing in the image that the opening poster used) start to behave like they're not little men at all. Imagine that! They pretend to be grown-ups. Well, you're clearly not an adult if you can't understand the difference between 'your' and 'you're'. An admin no less! What mockery. For a server that allows erotic roleplay you'd think the host would at least put an age requirement out for administrators. In fact, no age requirement can be found in the rules which seems to me to be negligent in preventing minors from being exposed to such harmful and nasty things.
I can understand you have certain requirements on a character's name. That's fine. But if you're somehow not offended by the erotic roleplay that is endemic to your humble station but you are offended by a CKEY... well, let's just say you should look up 'hypocrite' in the dictionary, because you're obviously not familiar with the term. If you want to be a honest Space Christian, you shouldn't be there in the first place!
And for those of you who don't know, there's a game with little midgets that abhors any sexual content. To be saying that someone who uses a utility for that game and even bases his CKEY off that name is a rapist is pretty damn funny (http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Utilities#Dwarf_Therapist).
Of course, you have no sense. I've been to your station. It's not exactly honk-friendly either.
>being a shitcunt every time you play
>making a shitty /v/ style collage of people that got mad at you for being an asshat
>being proud of being this much of a shitter
Time to rev up those permas
But can I thank you for not being an uncreative, memespewing shitter who can only scream buzzwords and 4chan dreck and then cry censorship when people tell you to stop being an asshole?
yes but if you go off the deep end into "I am a gigantic waster who hates fun" territory, we might pull you aside and tell you to get fucked
plant bombs everywhere and tell the station they have 5 minutes to answer a riddle before the remote detonator goes off? sure
you can do this by rigging signallers to your bombs and then sticking a timer to a signaller, then placing the remote timed detonator in some place
ignore your objectives to go bomb shit/flood plasma/stealthkill 65% of the station?
we'll roll our eyes but we don't do anything
but if you do it every single time you're an antag and we might tell you to knock it off though because nobody but the tator doing it can enjoy that shit
there's a difference between being offended by something and getting tired of something
if that's all you can do that's kind of disappointing
"heh these guys are butthurt over the fact that i said faggot, stupid SJW cunts"
i'm not even trying to tell people that it's wrong to call people faggots or anything, i'm not gonna preach that shit, because on 4ch it's how things are done
but like, when you start excessively spewing 4chan shit and memeshit outside of 4chan, or even on 4chan, how interesting of an individual can you be
you're just "that guy who says faggot and nigger" and recites shitty memes constantly and thinks he's cool
my issue isn't that it's offensive, i don't give a shit
it's that it's old as fuck and it's not cute or cool or edgy or anything
irl i do my best to stay away from people who aren't able to act like sensible human beings and keep that shit in check
we managed to cull validculture but not borgshittery
borgshittery is next on the menu tho
>get a really good idea for traitor
>take the same job for 3 days straight hoping to get traitor
>never get traitor
>wind up not having fun with ss13 any more
I want to start taking other jobs but I know I'll miss my chance to do the thing.
Actually no, so now that you mention it, perhaps I can just job change.
The thing is, I also need there to be no AI, since I think AI gets a notification whenever telecomms gets a newly uploaded law. I COULD break in, but the computer itself can't be emagged so I'd need permission to use it. Plus, an excuse to be in there (I've been a mechanic, who scans things) would be pretty useful.
Just got perma banned from another server,
was 2nd time as atmos, was trying to learn how shit, figured best way to learn was to make the air 10% NO2, you know, laughing gas, I wanted to make the whole station giggly,
got caught right before I finished setting it up
BAM, perma ban
For some reason i think you're the shitter here
>haha, time to have some fun on vgstation
>there is no Pun Pun to impersonate
>oh well, I'll become the chicken then
>Go see the chef, try to teach her the recipe for turkey
>botanists got no ingredients and Chef doesn't want to trespass onto botany grounds, the the AI goes delta
>make bro with a mouse
>we pray to get to safety
>we were right next to the teleporter, and its door magically opens
>we enter the teleporter, and arrive on the Pirate Ship
>we make bro with the pirate Captain and first mate and watch as the station explodes.
I was just killing time till the AI declared.
Your a mechanic. Also, you can PDA the AI asking it to let you in, and it basically has to as long as no one tells it not to.
Some of them will argue it just long enough to let someone catch you, though, but there's really no immediate danger to humans if you let someone in your upload. It's what happens afterwards that's dangerous.
>Suicide as cargo tech
>Go do real life stuff for a bit, come back and be a mouse.
>Crawl into kitchen and nearly get fucked by the chef.
>AI goes crazy, run with a chicken.
>Mouse Jesus shows mercy, we teleport to pirate ship.
>Station blows up, group suicide.
Good times man.
The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch
I've stopped playing video games a lot honestly. Now it's time to go /lit/...
I figured I'd ease my way in with easy to read stuff.
>Players always assume the worst of the admins
>Players always assume the admins know exactly what happened in any incident
>Players always assume an admin is out to get me when they get PMed
>Players always try to brown-nose admins
>Players always act like absolute shitters when no admins are online
Could this get fixed please?
It massively depends on the AI, but some will let you in and do what you want
>admins try to figure out an incident
>ask accused what happened
>accused instantly go into full on defense mode, blame shitcurity, shitmins, greyshits
>start demanding bans for accuser
>accuser ahelping constantly to find out if 'that shitter has been banned yet or are [we] just going to be shitmins'
>tell accuser they were in the wrong
>accuser throws a shitfit and starts whining in deadchat about how shitty the admins and players are
>accuser whines in the thread and in OOC about it
>accused still pissy because we had the audacity to try to find out his side of the story without just looking in the logs
You average out 2-3 bans a day. Sometimes they're just.
>Players always assume the worst of the admins
Never seen the admin dick sucking squad in action have you?
>Players always assume the admins know exactly what happened in any incident
They do not but have the tools to do so.
>Players always assume an admin is out to get me when they get PMed
Most of the time it is. Example. Killette2, a well known player blatantly breaks laws on accident. Gets no punishment. Some other person accidentally does something. Gets permabanned.
>Players always try to brown-nose admins
Because it is advantageous to them.
>Players always act like absolute shitters when no admins are online
If you seriously believe people are making a conscious decision to act up when there are no admins and they are otherwise fine, you don't know what you're talking about.
Anyway that whole ban reason is ridiculous. Multiple people? Killed? He killed ONE person. And to say that he killed them is a misnomer, it is more like he participated in assisted suicide then anything else.
>Never seen the admin dick sucking squad in action have you?
I mentioned that in the same post, genius.
>They do not but have the tools to do so.
Not entirely what I'm talking about. A lot of the time a player will ahelp just to say "I really hope you're going to ban that shitter" with no name or reasoning, and they just assume that we've been watching them or know every single thing that's been happening
>Most of the time it is
Any time someone gets PMed and asked about some incident, they always start acting like it's some sort of insult to them. It's fucking obnoxious and makes me a lot less sympathetic.
>If you seriously believe people are making a conscious decision to act up when there are no admins and they are otherwise fine, you don't know what you're talking about.
If you seriously don't believe that people act like shit when they think there's no admins online to give their actions any consequence, then you don't know what you're talking about.
>Not entirely what I'm talking about. A lot of the time a player will ahelp just to say "I really hope you're going to ban that shitter" with no name or reasoning, and they just assume that we've been watching them or know every single thing that's been happening
I do this too. If you send in a long admin help, nobody reads it. It's best to send something like this as an initial thing. The admins without fail will jump to you. Then after they see the situation, you send in a slightly more detailed admin help.
However, I do something similar that is ignored by some of the newer admins.
Sometimes. I'd say: "Watch me." knowing that something that would involve a lot of grief was about to go down, but they often times do not.
Then, when it inevitable becomes an issue it's even more painful to deal with in the future because they failed to watch me and see the situation play out themselves.
This of course results in me posting my AHELPS in a pastebin because it goes over the character limit because it has to explain a fifty minute drama succinctly.
>Any time someone gets PMed and asked about some incident, they always start acting like it's some sort of insult to them. It's fucking obnoxious and makes me a lot less sympathetic.
Because of your tone and language. Learn to handle yourself better. Do not be accusatory. Look at how Aurx does it. Use basic people skills.
I'm sorry to bother you but could you please explain what happened with the clown?
What do you think you're doing with the clown?
If you know they are going to react in a hostile manner you can sometimes copy and paste the admin help you received from the player that made you want to PM them in the first place. Be sure to leave out their OOC name though.
This makes them understand that you are not getting personally upset at them, but are rather investigating a perhaps unfairly worded admin help.
TG was pretty shit last I played it. The levels of valid salad were unfathomable (the minute there was a long or wizard half the station immediately bum rushes them).
The thing I hated most about it though was how often the shuttle got fucking called. Lose power, Shuttle call, toxins blew up, shuttle call, subdue bomb blew up a few tiles in the hallway, shuttle call. Quite often I even saw captains call the shuttle at roundstart (they were hoping to be an antag and didn't get it so they call the shuttle to end the round quickly)
And I should mention, as a general rule please do not PM people first.
Are they doing something blatant like blowing up a bomb? Then you can PM them.
Is it something involving another player? Often times players are fine with and can enjoy what looks like griefing to you. If they express any sort of OOC discontent with what is happening to them, then you should PM.
Even just now a couple of days ago. PM'd by admins over something. I explained it to the "victim" in IC, and he forgave me for it and understood immediately. We then went on to work together on something. Any misgivings he had with me at that point were gone. Yet the admins deemed it fit to PM me still.
Do not play admincurity.
Do not play admincurity.
Do not play admincurity.
B-but if I don't get bans in the ban log how will people know I'm admin?
B-but I need muh greentext in the thread
B-but I need to make a good impression on others and validate myself
Appchan dev, please fix posing from URL.
And in the end that's what being an admin is to most of these people.
It's just another job in the game to them. They are eager to prove their competence and use.
For some of them, let's say Velard and Nexis, it's pretty close to the Security experience.
You can say a Security Officer goes around and hopes to "get his valids" by identifying, arresting, and executing the antags.
An admin does this by identifying, PMing, and banning the rule breakers.
The antagonists are objectively defined, but the rule breakers are whoever the admins say they are.
This encourages a sort of witch hunting attitude in some admins. They are eager to ban whoever they can get away with. It's for this reason you see bans for accidents, grey areas, and harmless OOC.
In the end, people are just using their admin position to feel better about themselves in some way. Ego nurturing. To view themselves as level headed and just or hard ass with a heart of gold, it's all in the ego.
Remember this is 4chan, home of the forgotten, ignored, strange, weird, and mentally ill.
>sarca taking things too seriously again
Hey guys, remember that adminning /vg/ is just like the roman senate. You're constantly trying to backstab the other admins for power.
sing for us in that heavenly voice
>Jani borgs now have buckets
HOLY FUCK I LOVE WHOEVER DID THIS
>I'm not a robot
>be in medical
>guys theres nitrogen in the air
>sec officer sees nitrogen
>opens door anyway
>spreads it to rest of station
>knocks me out
>knocked out of the round as I slowly die
>he didn't even try to help me
How did you guys like Blink the Techmage?
I tried not to take anything too overpowered and was generally a dick instead of murderboning or being peaceful like I think wizards should be. I joked around with people and generally tried to make it fun for everyone while being a threat, thoughts?
i liked you even though I wanted to murder you so hard holy shit you were annoying. much better than every other shitty e'nath cluwning firebirding wizard. and you actually fucked the station good even though you fucked up at the end (I know jaunt screwed you but you shouldn't have been cocky)
If an issue isn't brought to me by the "victim"
which is weird to say in the context of a 2Dvidyathen I don't see a reason to make it an admin-issue. And if someone's attacking you, don't ahelp it for fucks sake. That's Sec's job.
Get some eggs and a chicken, make a rune and sacrifice them to us.
You are willingly dedicating hours of your life to something. Something that outwardly, has no personal benefit. You are doing it for free. You mean to tell me you're not taking this as seriously as I am?
You're a human being. Human beings have desires. Human beings have motivation behind their actions.
Sure, your motivation for taking the trash out or scratching your ear or taking a bite out of a sand which isn't too complex, but something like this requires a better answer.
If I'm wrong, tell me then, why do you do it? Will you?
I'm sorry bro, unless I decide to code that lasarus+soulstone-like idea I had ago, the only way to be a chicken is
to either be an admin or have an admin make you a chicken. As an admin I will sometimes take control of pets, but that's so I can increase the potential fun of the round. Most of the time I behave like the pets usually would, here I was a talking chicken exceptionally. Two days ago I was Pun Pun, the round was blob, and we had a fucking awesome combo with the bartender, the clown and the chaplain until the bartender went full Taliban on a random bomb he found in medbay.
>Station goes to hell
>Get in fight with monkey clown
>Eventually decide I want that there shuttle called
>Decide to act like an idiot and make an explosive and get a welder fluid tank
>Scientist talks me out of it
>Wander around with the welder tank because why not
>Eventually CMO says he doesn't care about us
>Oh shit it's own
>REVOLUTION IN MEDBAY
>Go to medbay with the intention of beating the shit out of the CMO
>Oh shit, wizards here
>Oh shit, I still have the fuel tank
>Wizard shoots fuel tank, blows up part of medbay and instantly puts me into crate
>I should've blown a hole into command
Ah but you won't do that will you? It requires introspection. A depressed NEET taking a long hard look at himself. He can't do that. He won't like what he sees!
It's not too late for you, you know. You're only 19. If I were you, I'd do what Busta did. Drop off the /ss13/ Z-level never to return.
I'm not saying everyone does, but it's common for people to use this game as a substitute for a lot of things in their lives. As a NEET, I can't imagine you talk to many people. Social life perhaps?
You would've blown a hole into the floor in front of command. The walls of command wouldn't have taken any damage. Especially with those Emergency Shutters closed. That only a small part of medbay got deprived of air is a surprisingly lucky outcome. Plus I happened to be nearby and saved the CMO who got sucked out by the breach.
And seriously, how were you planning to detonate that welder fuel tank anyway? You didn't even set an igniter-signaller assembly on it.
And assuming you had a laser gun, or that you intended to welding-tool it, here's what would have happened. get it?
>53 opened PRs in the last 5 days, including over 30 who got already merged into the game.
I take offence to that.
I was doing it all in character. I knew it wouldn't work, but as a bartender, how would I know how sturdy those shutters are? Also I had an IED. No idea if that would cause the fuel tank to explode, but I felt like it would.
Sarca, just stop.
It was fun to fuck with you but it's just getting sad now.
You stopped playing a few months ago and claimed you were leaving forever, but you're constantly in the thread shitting on admins and stuff because of some sort of vendetta you have.
You're talking about how the admins 'do it for free,' and demanding that they look at themselves and think about what they're doing, but have you ever stopped to ask yourself why you keep coming back to talk about the exact same things over and over again?
Just relax, man. You're taking things far too seriously.
It is the way they coded limbs.
At this moment if you could have a robot arm and a human hand, then you could have a wooden arm and a human hand.
Rambling Maniac has wooden arms and robotic hands which really amuses me.
Yeah it would. But as an admin I was also trying to save you from a potential ban. Acting in character doesn't mean acting like an idiot. (cf: GG Allin who got banned two days ago as a bartender because he ran upon a tank-transfer-valve-type bomb in medbay and went like "hu hu hu, what is this? guess I'll open it!"
>Those "AlienGun" sprites
Its like a long-ranged SORD
>Staff of Healing
>Not thinking those trash sprites look good means that im new
You don't really understand my motivations, I'm not going to bother explaining because I know nobody cares. There's a couple of other wrong things in your post, but I know better then to bother trying to correct you.
>but have you ever stopped to ask yourself why you keep coming back to talk about the exact same things over and over again?
I know why. I get enjoyment from it. I like taking things seriously. It's in my nature. I'm kind of shocked you guys don't. What kind of enjoyment and on what level, well that's up for you to determine if you care enough.
>Just relax, man. You're taking things far too seriously.
Ok, I argue you're not taking things seriously enough.
Pomf is a middle aged guy rotting away, spending all of his spare income to provide for a bunch of ungrateful children. Why?
Half of the admins are recluses that are going to kill themselves in the next couple of decades.
The others are acting out power fantasies by mentally abusing other people in some sort of deranged stanford prison like experiment
The player base is full of people who play rounds for a good majority of the day, participating in escapism of the worst kind. Why?
/vg/station is a tragedy.
Am I really the only person who thinks about things like this? This is worrying to me. Is everyone else just retarded? Is this where a couple of standard deviations from the mean IQ makes its difference? Or am I just mentally ill?
I dunno man, I think it's kinda funny.
Just sit back and watch the horrifyingly shallow people content being failures from afar, and you have a good time. It's the same premise as Trailer Park Boys.
But there'll be a Bernd free serb soon, just sit tight.
I'm not sarca, I just jumped in the conversation because I agree with him.
Is there anything you do like about this place anymore or are you only here to whine incessantly?
People generally remember and recognize criticism and tend to forget the good.
Um.. wow, that's hard to say. Why do you care?
I like that I can't get banned for saying nigger, kike, etc.
I like /vg/'s nuke ops.
I like /vg/'s genetics.
I like that security gets maintenance access.
I like that /vg/ doesn't chug like /tg/ does.
I like that aside from Dylan and Nexis, the coders on /vg/ are not nearly as terrible and evil as those on /tg/.
I LOOOVE public logs which basically no server elsewhere has.
Probably a few other miscellaneous things like actual grey jumpsuits.
Yeah that's all I can think of right now..
>is everyone else just retarded
Yes soca. Everyone is retarded. Everyone except you. You are an outcast in our retarded society. We do not want you in our retard castle and thus you must come back to make us retards get up in arms.
So please do us all a favor and stop trying to bring logic into our retarded minds because you've seen before all we do is scream violently and smash our heads against a wall until we bleed so why do you keep coming back and attempting to find reason with us?
>Start playing Chemistry
>Mfw someone code the Pill Collector just a few days after
>get promoted to HoS because there's no sec
>get into some bullshit argument with officer, want to demote him because I think nothing is going on anyway
>all hell breaks loose
>try to stop it, no way in hell
>figure I'll just try to survive and do what little possible
>see kudzu in hallways, fetch welders
>escape fucked of course, had been for quite some time
>see every cultist in front of escape doors, they can't really get in
>flashbang a few, try to arrest one, no fucking way of course
>see clown go to door and open it
>quickly put on magboots, I'm the only one to escape with main escape shuttle
>kudzu and a bad escape hallway stopped the cult...
Why do you even care?
It doesn't take that much effort to browse the thread. I read all the posts and go days without posting anything.
Sometimes I don't even lurk, and leave the thread for extended periods of time. Again, it's funny to see people accused of being me in archive.moe or whatever after months of not posting
If I see something that I have an opinion on, I voice it, always Anonymously, as someone on an Anonymous image board would. It's not my fault you can recognize some of the posts I make. there a
>Pomf is a middle aged guy rotting away, spending all of his spare income to provide for a bunch of ungrateful children. Why?
I've lost control of my life.
I have no idea who you are, sorry. Judging by the past thread it seems you're some guy who imitated some Goon admin though. Probably haven't posted a while and forgot to take off your fake trip.
Pull the plug. End it.
no. let me reveal something about you that we can all tell but you will not accept.
you want to be an admin but you have no spine. if you wanted to be an admin you would post in the forum made for just that.
you won't be an admin because you don't have the balls to face rejection. if you don't even have the courage to post a thread then how are you going to deal with hostile, angry, and manipulative shitters trying to weasel their way out of a ban?
So take that and look at yourself and decide how much of what I just wrote was true. Don't respond with some dumb nuh uh shit. If you think you're experienced enough to be an admin go write up a thread instead of being a whiny faggot anonymously.
>implying people won't shit on you for years to come
I still hate kilkun because he was a round-interfering shitmin when I first started playing antag and my asshole still hasn't recovered from my butthurt.
One takes time to get going, the other one shines bright and burns out quick.
Who do you think I am?
It's just adminning on a space station. Who cares if people hate you? If it's well deserved like me, you should know how to handle fucking up and move on. If it's not, then who cares? At the end of the day we are all nerds playing a game about toolboxes and megacorporations.
>making a wizard during cult round
jesus christ, good thing I wasn't there that time.
Trying to coordinate with the starting members of a cult aboard a station half destroyed by a wizard actually sounds fun. Cult is always fun. Partly because many people get to be cultists in cult rounds, while there is only one wizard (ragin magus doesn't count, that mode isn't fun for anyone)
In other news I started looking at the Ninja Code. Looks like this thing is going to be my second Adminbus (in terms of "how much effort am I going to put into a single feature").
The code itself isn't that bad, it just needs to be centralized and optmized.
Oh wait, maybe I should fix snow first...too many things to fix in this game, we'll never run out, it's a bored coder's heaven really.
>In other news I started looking at the Ninja Code. Looks like this thing is going to be my second Adminbus (in terms of "how much effort am I going to put into a single feature"). The code itself isn't that bad, it just needs to be centralized and optmized.
Don't bother. Bay is doing a rewrite.
My rage has cooled from the time Eliminator spawned in a Death Squid during my Vampire round and I happened to be in Arrivals after finishing all my objectives. Now I am just mad that Vampires are shit.
>vampires are shit
I disagree but I want to know why you think that. They're all you could ask for stealth antag. All the complaints I hear are WHY ARENT VAMPIRES ABLE TO GO LOUD . . which makes no fucking sense in anything except like, Twilight headcanon
Never know until I try! Gotta find an outlet for uncoded n' unused sprites somehow!
>except like, Twilight headcanon
Dude. Vampires are half demons. In every single permeation they exist in they are absolute fucking monsters, except in SS13.
Instead of having a really fast, impossibly strong, magical arcane abomination that sucks the souls from people we have a human who can walk through walls a couple of times and fart out bats.
In every single permutation of changelings, they are incredibly dangerous, fast, and almost undetectable monsters.
Except in SS13.
We'd all like to see more powerful antags, but they don't really work in the context of a game.
Giving one player the ability to utterly destroy everything with no chance of being stopped isn't fun for anyone else.
90% of their shit is useless. If you use any of the powers chances are you are doing something wrong and unless you are in medbay its going to be hard to get blood. I want more supernatural vampires. Maybe give regen that uses blood, and all their powers are on a cooldown with more being unlocked. And then at 500 they get a loud form, like horror form. I just hate thinking "Alright, I am a supernatural being that can suck the life of enemies, but I can't do shit to anyone able to fight back."
What if we had an antag/player-controlled event that couldn't be killed or combated, only contained?
Like something that infects the station, like blob but more invasive and harder to contain, but once you contain it and keep it contained, it's no longer a threat.
I do like the idea of something that can be slowed down by competent players while they run out the clock until they can leave.
But right now the best we have of that is well coordinated bus.
SS13 changelings aren't mythological changelings though. A changeling is essentially a hivemind of single celled organisms.
You could make Changelings into something like that. Just make it possible for them to come back from being gibbed/incinerated.
>unless you are in medbay its going to be hard to get blood.
I completely disagree. It's no harder than cult or changeling to get victims.
>can't do shit to anyone able to fight back
well that's partially the point you're not supposed to be 1v1ing the HoS you're a stealthtag but
and of course you could just rely on the dozens of weapons you can make on station.
I understand this is spess but I don't like the idea of being this legendary supernatural being running around with stun gloves and a makeshift baton. I want them to be able to handle themselves without needing to resort to grey tide shit to survive. At the same time, I am not trying to make them into all powerful demi-gods that even the most unrobust can use to kill everyone on the station. I just want a more supernatural medium. They just feel far to weak to me. I'd rather get 10 telecrystals then vampire. Then again, I am not a fan of ling either.
>Incidentally, do we have any policy about making sure no one else uses our code?
We have that thing called the Adminbus, that I haven't seen any coderbase steal yet given how complicated it is.
>We need to make a name for ourselves as /vg/ code
the jukeboxes, ass surgery, the adminbus, working slime grenades, non-antag vox plasmamen diona and skellingtons, I'd argue that we're pretty unique already.
This isn't about lore it's about game balance.
As it stands ling is fucking stupid to play as because there's literally only one path you can take, otherwise you have to rely on your victims to not scream over the radio that you are sucking out your juices.
Great if you have a player who likes helping antags and doesn't mind sacrificing themselves to their new changeling overlords... however there's like 2 people who play on vg like that.
Eliminator, whatever happened to Mafia game mode? Did Banisher's shitposting get you down or you just decide it was a bad idea?
Also, any coders out there? I know shit-all about coding but coding for /vg/ sounds like a fun hobby. Do any of the skills with coding BYOND translate well to learning other languages? Would you recommend it or is it a pain in the ass?
Carrots grinded up looks like Poutine, just need a pen to rename it to that
>Also, any coders out there?
>Do any of the skills with coding BYOND translate well to learning other languages?
Working with other people's code, basic algorithm design, and general coding knowhow are NEVER useless.
>Would you recommend it or is it a pain in the ass?
Wouldn't be a half bad first language. Easy syntax, plenty of skilled people who can help.
Is there any recommended reading? Is there any easy jump-off point for learning?
the fuck what that mmmuh mafias image about then, I don't have it on this computer but I vividly remember it
what he said. this is like when people say wizards need a BUFF. right now, experienced players can and will roll your ass as vamp, changeling or wizman.
newfags get fucking dunked because the roles aren't as simple as tater tot. that's not reason to make it easier for them, especially since it'll make the players that didn't complain and got gud into untouchable beasts.
Verald, so, i better kill em? Recalling gives ban, stunnig gives ban.
And where in the hell i did violent\nonviolent griff part? Or you meant our screwed up crew, who cant do shit, but killing each other?
It's hard for me to take you seriously when you won't even take yourself seriously.
Vampire is absolutely one hundred percent the worst antag period. It is not fun to play. The role itself is severely gimped.