/gsg/ - Grand Strategy General

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First for our greatest ally

>people are still making money off the holocaust

>>88290370
first for Karlemagne der Große the great le Magne

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First for Charlemagne der GroBe

>my polish grandmother left silesia in 1937
Can I be a holocaust survivor?

>>88290643
nice meme

>>88290797
The Holocaust was a uniquely Jewish experience, non-Jews cannot be victims of holocausts. They can be victims of genocides and ethnic cleansing, but not holocausts.

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9th for Timur the based

How much do people actually care about dynamic province names in EUIV?

>>88291581
Why is he dressed so European? Wasn't he an Asiatic savage?

>>88291896
They should be based on province culture, not province owner.

>>88291896
I like them
Of course, it would be nice if they put the ń in Gdańsk
>>88292043
There should be an option to change between the two

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>>88286101
If you're going to go with early industrial revolution in China for an alt-hist, you gotta go with the Song dynasty.
I've actually thought a lot about making a vicky scenario about that, with Europe being full of backwater feudal nations with tons of potential that have to play catchup at game start, and east asia being more industrial, and with China having the role of otl English world police, with like a civil war to break it up once things get going, I've just never been sure how to handle all that empty americas
Now that I think about it, with christmas break coming up, I might actually try making this. It's going to be so stupid you guys

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16eme for Natural French borders.

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>>88290370
>Victoria 2
>Budget screen shows a deficit
>My economy is going up and has been for a while now

Whats going on?

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Does setting allied objectives even do anything?

Is there any reason Romania wont close this extremely important and fragile pocket?

Never fucking trust gypsy nigger allies

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Anyone up for V2 MP?

>>88292368
Treat the empty Americas like Africa in vanilla, just a blank canvas to paint

>>88292593

>paradocks gaem

>>88292604
Yes it does, it makes them try to stay in that place.
They won't if they cant.

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>>88292445
>All of Europe united to crush the spirit of liberty
>Yet it did not die
>The world embraced the spirit of liberty, and France forgave the world for its transgressions

>>88292745

the province i told them to attack is literally empty. and It is extremely important

>>88292593
the budget screen assumes all your expenses for construction are being deducted at once but if you automate trade you'll only buy a certain amount per day

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>>88292604
>Never played a gsg game before
>"Maybe I should check out the general"
>See this picture

W-what the fuck am I looking at

>>88292920
>>88292920
Pardox can't code the AI for shit. It's probably scared of the soviet forces

>>88292593
If by "economy" you mean amount of money in your treasury, that means that your government is trying to buy goods from the world market, which would result in a deficit, but can't do so because the demand is too high.

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>>88292834
>but the Rhine is as far away as it was back in 1066

>>88293034
someone with a tiny monitor play videogames

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>>88293115
>but the Rhine is as far away as it was back in 1066
>What is the Treaty of Rijswijck?

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>>88293034
Babbies first WWII simulator, Europe Universalis III

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>they added lebanon to euiv
>its default religion is sunni
>it has muslim ideas
>it exists wholly within Syrian cores
>it has an ugly flag
>it isn't phoenician purple, instead it's puke orange
>sidon starts as catholic but gets converted within a year in every game

>>88291931
It's a european painting

>>88293342
Really, why would they add a post colonial country to that game?
Well, it's not as bad as adding canals (like the Suez and the Panama) who required a teremendous ammount of manpower even with steamengines..

>>88293320

Nice meme

>>88292368

That's an interesting scenario as well, you should make it.

>>88292612

I'll probably go with few uncivs in Mesoamerica and the Andes with 0-20% civilization progress, and the rest colonizable after inventions.

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>>88293540

>>88293034

You are looking at 200,000 soviet troops about to be trapped and captured by the germans.

If their Gypsy allies would cooperate, which they wont.

>>88293342
Monophysite, coptic and orthodox should be fucking nonconvertible impossible to convert unless you've some kind of maxed-out missionary strength. To think the lebanese, armenians, ethiopians, assyrians, greeks and serbians took the arab and later turkish dick and repulsed the verminous islamic religion.

Fuck, the eastern christians are just so much badass.

>>88293769
>Relying on anyone on WW2
Haven't you learned anything with history?

>>88293763

Again, nice meme

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>>88293903
>There will never, NEVER be a prosperous, majority Catholic Lebanon that gets along with Israel and Western Europe while giving the finger to Mudslimes

Should I take Sudan from Egypt or just let them be? Playing HPM.

>>88293975

It was a mistake, I spread the line too thin, I just thought the AI could recognize an opportunity to salvage the encirclement

I guess not

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>>88293903
Pavlos please

>>88294112
Take

>>88292604
They are probably just afraid that the enemy pushes into them if they move troops there

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>>88293034
At the most awesome genre of games there is.

>>88294187
wat

>tfw Calvinist France will never ally with Lutheran Prussia against the Catholics and win literally ever war

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>>88294524
Pavlos go away

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>>88294024
>gets along with Israel
>wanting Israel to exist

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>>88294187
>Was Napoleon Half Greek?
>Was Napoleon Italian?
>Was Napoleon German?

Did this surrender monkey myth really penetrate the American conciousness so deeply that they simply cannot accept Napoleon as anything other than French?

If they knew of other French warheroes (Ferdinand Foch, Villars, Turenne etc.) they would probably deny their Frenchness as well. Hell, they already do that with William the Conqueror.

>>88294621
http://www.mani.org.gr/en/history/napoleon.htm
He's right though.
>>88294557
>Calvinism
a bastard of autistic-level sholasticism that led to rise of irreligion and liberalism.

>>88294664
>wanting Israel to exist
Say what you want but Israel is the only prosperous and democratic nation in the region. I would much rather be a Muslim in Israel than a Jew in any of the surrounding countries.

>>88294852
Napoleon was an Italian who assimilated into French culture, Corsica still isn't French it damn well wasn't in the 18th century.

>>88294852
William the Bastard was Norman, not French. A mix of Viking and Frank.

>>88294918
>mani site
Yes Pavlos, the greeks never lied.
He's basing this in an article some guy wrote for a magazine.
Pratically scientifically proven.

Does anyone have the /gsg/ recommended manga list? I didn't save it back when it was under construction and now I regret it.

>>88294852
The normands were norse
NOOOORSE

>>88295085
>Frank
>Not French

>>88295070
>Napoleon was an Italian
Pretty impressive for someone born about a century before Italy existed

>Corsica still isn't French
1789/10

>>88295085
>A mix of Viking
Because they totally remained vikings for six generations of settlement in Normandy in which they were vassals to the king of France and mixed with the local population, right?

>and Frank
That's French. There was no such thing as "France" or "French" until the reign of Philippe Auguste. That's why they call themselves Franks on the Tapistry of Bayeux (unless you want to argue that the Franks literally stopped being a thing overnight).

>>88295218
There's no "recommended" manga list, this isn't /a/ faggot. It's just an image some autistic weebs here made, and it's not even barely relate to /gsg/

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>>88295016
>Say what you want but Israel is the only prosperous and democratic nation in the region

Are you retarded? You would be "prosperous" and have better living standard than Italy if you had billions of foreign aid from America and the West. Also what's so democratic about following a Talmudic blood cult where you chop your dick and hate everything?

>democracy
>good

>>88295310
>Because they totally remained vikings for six generations of settlement in Normandy in which they were vassals to the king of France and mixed with the local population, right?
Yeah. They weren't wholly French.

>That's French. There was no such thing as "France" or "French" until the reign of Philippe Auguste. That's why they call themselves Franks on the Tapistry of Bayeux (unless you want to argue that the Franks literally stopped being a thing overnight).
Franks were the germanic predecessors of the French, who assimilated into and transformed the latin people in Gual whom they conquered. That Anon was wrong imo to call the Normans Vikings and Franks, but there is a difference between the two.

>>88295310
That's right Italy didn't exist until the 1860's when it sprang fully formed from the ocean

>>88295459
Let us assume that all your criticisms are valid (they aren't, but let's just assume it). What makes any of Israel's borders any better than Israel? Hell, what makes ANY Muslim country (except maybe, MAYBE Turkey) better than Israel?

Face it, Islam is an automatic death sentence for any country's future.

Can you use the free people CB and make them release a country if it's in only one region? Or do I have to use the liberate country CB?

>>88295727
>What makes any of Israel's borders any better than Israel? Hell, what makes ANY Muslim country (except maybe, MAYBE Turkey) better than Israel?
They're not breaking the Geneva convention by building on top of someone else's clay.

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>>88295819
You are on the wrong board.

>>88295592
Then what do you mean by "Italian"? Do you mean Milanese? Or Florentine? Or Venitian? Or Corsican? You know, Corsica? That island that was not considered part of the Medieval Kingdom of Italy nor the Roman province of Italia, had never been part of any iteration of Italy in the modern age and was wholly under French control when Napoleon was born?

At best you could call him a Corsican, ie. part of a regional subculture of France, on par with the Bretons or Occitans.

>>88296003
I highly doubt /a/ has the manga list compiled on /gsg/

>>88295727
>dat false dichotomy
I wasn't even mentioning Islam. There are millions of Arab Christians.
>>88296003
>image from 2010
epic

>>88296003
>no /pol/
I want to go on THAT website

>>88295952
No, they're breaking the Geneva convention by religious genocide and slavery. And you're complaining about building on the land of others?

>>88291931
Looks like Persian clothing to me

>>88295310
Are you fucking dumb mate. The Italian culture and language existed long before the country was created.

>>88296115
Some people here browse there, so ask for them there. Or in /r/ you know.


>>88296149
Yes, suddenly /vg/ turned into /manga/ com 2010 to 2014

>>88295727
>Face it, Islam is an automatic death sentence for any country's future.
Bosnia and Albania seem to be doing alright.

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>>88296283
>Bosnia and Albania seem to be doing alright.
Yeah, it's only been about two decades since their last genocide. Truly they are the Switzerland of the 21st century.

>>88296283
And Qatar

>>88296204
Oh sure, >>>/reddit/

>>88296281
>Some people here browse there, so ask for them there
100% of the people here browse here, so I'm asking them here.

>Or in /r/ you know.
I'm pretty sure they'd redirect me to /gsg/ for obvious reasons.

You could have just ignored me, you know.

>>88296453
Serb pls go
You were the one committing genocide

>>88296085
An Italian regional subculture of France, who's language is closer to Italian dialects than French ones and who has always had closer historical ties to the Italian peninsula, you bought it from the Genoese Pierre. It's about as French as Nice or Savoy

>>88296224
Building and settling their civillians on the land of another country, whom they are fighting, is a breach of the Geneva convention.

If you're whining about "muh natives", yeah I'll agree that Europe sort of rapetrained the Americas, but that was hundreds of years ago. It's already happened, and guilt tripping over it changes nothing. Israel is building settlements TODAY, and the international community needs to tell them to stop.

>>88295727
>Face it, Islam is an automatic death sentence for any country's future.
The UK and France are pretty good

>>88296637
Future, anon. Future.

>>88295310
>Pretty impressive for someone born about a century before Italy existed
>no germans existed until 1871
>no spanish people existed until the 16th century
>no jews existed until 1948 (or if you're an asshole, 1050 BC)

>>88296582
>It's about as French as Nice or Savoy
Is this supposed to be an argument AGAINST Napoleon being French somehow? Because Nice and Savoie are pretty fucking French.

>>88296582
I wouldn't say Corsica as French as Savoy, Anon

>>88296582
>>88296085
Corsica's status is practically irrelevant because "the Corsican Buonapartes were descended from minor Italian nobility of Tuscan origin, who had come to Corsica from Liguria in the 16th century.[6][7]"

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r8

>>88296637
kek

>>88296715
>no germans existed until 1871
Well, Germans do use the same retarded logic as the ones denying Napoleon's Frenchness.

>Those people over there are born in France, vote for French leaders and generally approve of being part of France
>But 6 million years ago they were German
>This means they're Germans!

>>88296865
It's just kaiser reich. What's there to rate?

>>88296550
Well, no one has, maybe they are browsing only /a/ right now.

>You could have just ignored me, you know.

and you could have just not shitposted, you know?
THis isn't /r/ or /a/. There's no official weeb image for you.

>>88296735
>Because Nice and Savoie are pretty fucking French.
You"ve never been to Nice I see.

>>88296827
>Corsica's status is practically irrelevant because "the Corsican Buonapartes were descended from minor Italian nobility of Tuscan origin, who had come to Corsica from Liguria in the 16th century.[6][7]"
So? Baron Haussmann and Gustave Eiffel were of German descent. I guess that means they're no longer French? Or what about Cardinal Mazarin of Italian descent, suddenly not French either? Or what about... oh, I don't know, the entire Capetian bloodline? I guess they're suddenly Germans too?

>>88296865
Kaiserreich with all the events broken because paradox gimped all the modding capabilities
Great

>>88296283
Albania has plenty of oil, dude.
They would be as rich as Switzerland if they had played their cards right.

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Is there ever a reason to manually trade instead of automate in v2?

>>88297189
That also applies to Saudi-Arabia, Algeria, Morocco, Iraq... gee, it applies to most Muslim countries when you think about it.

>>88297189
Weird how muslim majority countries always seem to have lots of oil...
I blame the Iron Curtain for Albania's economic mediocrity, tbh.

>>88297248
Yes. Stockpiling/preparing for war, cutting enemy supplies, avoiding price drops and market overflow and consequential unemployment

>>88297307
>Norway
>UK

Shit, you're right!

>>88297043
>Or what about Cardinal Mazarin of Italian descent, suddenly not French either?
Thanks for demonstrating your retardation.
Also for conceding that you could be Italian before Italy existed.

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IMPORTANT EVENT
REST IN PEACES

>>88297561
Go back to your disgusting containmentboard, ponyfag

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>>88296878
That's some krautboo double standard
>The Rhineland, Pomerania, Prussia, Saxony and Brandenburg only became German at the end of the middle ages through genocide of the local population
>Silesia only became partially German after the Modern era
>Act like they are the fatherland of the German people.
>Cry for the poor relocated Germans after WWII
>Pretend everybody from those regions was 100% originally German

>Norse and Franks migrate into France and assimilate into the culture
>"NOT FRENCH!!1"
>Frances annexes some territories through royal marriages, conquest, and purchases
>"NOT FRENCH!!1"
>France has a few minorities and patois like Breton, Occitan, and a few remaining Germans in Alsace
>"NOT FRENCH!!1 EVIL FRENCH OPPRESSORS! FREE BRITTANY AND OCCITANIA!"

Fuck you all who think like this, seriously. Richelieu you killed 50% too few Germans back in 1648.

>>88297043
I bet you think Richard Lionheart was English, or the Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen branch were Romanian, or the Hapsburg were anything but Austrian.

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>>88298167
>Holy
>Roman
>Empire
Pick le none

>>88298192
Habsburgs were Swiss.

>>88298167
>The Rhineland, Pomerania, Prussia, Saxony and Brandenburg only became German at the end of the middle ages through genocide of the local population

You forgot about Austria. Everyone always forgets about the Slavs living in the Eastern Mark the Germans genocided.

>>88298391
Every time a German dies, Voltaire smiles in heaven.

>>88298167
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vergonha

>>88298167
You're both retarded, Germans are like rats who infested eastern europe. The French are that kid on the playground who won't give you your ball back because he's been playing with it for an hour and that means its his now.

>>88298029
>tench desperately trying to become a meme
Give up kid

>>88298167
You, sir, need to understand the difference between functional ethnicity, and cultural nationality.
Napoleon Bonaparte was Ethnically a French-Italian mix, like most people in Corsica, but was wholly culturally French. Similarly, while the Normans were ethnically a Germanic-Latin mix more german than the Franks they were ruled by, they were still culturally French because they adopted French customs, spoke the French language (albiet the norman dialect) and probably had a bread fetish.

>>88294112

Depending on who you're playing, there might be some events that fire. I did a Britain game and some events fired that annexed Egypt and Sudan. I definitely had Egypt sphered, but I think there might have been some territory I took off of them, but at any rate, you might get a similar event

>>88298396
"Swiss" is a social construct. In fact, Swiss identity was created by the political rivals of the Hapsburgs.
Really, I should have said "South German" instead of "Austrian", though the later dynasty was certainly Austrian specifically.

>>88298751
German =/= Germanic

>>88298751
I don't see Germanics in Austria there.

>>88298751
This here is especially fun. The Germans historical lived here, and the coming of the slavs and balts is what basically undid them in Pommerania, Silesia, Poland, and Prussia.

>>88298863
"French" is a social construct. In fact, French identity was created by the political rivals of the Germans.

>>88298948
Because the original inhabitants were culturally germanized, they aren't germans,

>>88298913
The Germanic people are the ones who still live there nigger Their descendants.

>>88299050
They are Germans, though. The slavs in the area were pushed out or absorbed by the coming gothic settlers that were basically everywhere in the region by the medieval period.

>>88299050
"German" is a social construct. In fact, German identity was created by the political rivals of the French.

>>88299050
Cultural genocide is still genocide.

>>88292368
That actually sounds really cool. Good luck.

>>88298729
>Napoleon Bonaparte [...] was wholly culturally French
"A fervent Corsican nationalist, Bonaparte wrote to the Corsican leader Pasquale Paoli in May 1789:
As the nation was perishing I was born. Thirty thousand Frenchmen were vomited on to our shores, drowning the throne of liberty in waves of blood. Such was the odious sight which was the first to strike me."

Also, nationality essentially appeared as a concept during Napoleon's lifetime. Before then, you had an ethnicity/culture largely unrelated to whatever kingdom you resided in. Being a subject of the English Crown, or wearing the English Crown, didn't make you any less of a Norman, or a Frenchman, or a Jew for that matter. Of course assimilation existed, but you didn't have two identities. If you were a Berber and a vassal of the kingdom of Toledo, then the Kingdom of Toledo had a Berber vassal, that's all.

>>88298690
So in your scenario in a playground somewhere in the world a kid stole a ball while a rat infestation is plaguing eastern europe? Okay.

>>88299301
They aren't. The slavs weren't pushed back, the bavarians started to rule them and they got germanized.

>>88299376
"English" is a social construct. In fact, English identity was created by the political rivals of the French.

>>88299376
"Aspergers" is a social construct. In fact, Sperg identity was created by the political rivals of the Autists.

Alright, here's one for you fuckers: Napoleon spoke Italian as his first language, meaning he was of italian culture, thus "italian" (remember the italians existed as a culture before Italy did, take a fucking history class)
But, the French idea of nationality is different from the German one(which is the most accepted around the globe)

The French definition is a contract between an individual and a country, where one can be a citizen of said country as long as he follows the law and does his duty to the country. So, by speaking french(he had a funny accent btw) and serving his country(more than most frenchman lel) he was french

I just realized it took me 20 minutes to write this and it probably became irrelevant, but whatever, good night /gsg/

t. tired frenchblobber

Which French state should I play as in EUIV?

Who stands the best chance? Burgundy? Savoy?

>>88298951
Bullshit, son. The teutons were the masters of medieval genocide after the andalusian.

>>88299670
>savoy
>french

>>88299508
>cultural genocide

>>88299670
France

>>88299670
france

>>88299376
"The Holocaust" is a social construct. In fact, Holocaust identity was created by the political rivals of the Germans.

>>88299670
Foix

>>88299050
>"French" is a social construct. In fact, French identity was created by the political rivals of the Germans.
Quite right.

>>88299508
>implying germans have any real culture

>>88299631
>it took me 20 minutes to write this
That's sad.

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>>88299889
That's funny

IF I HOST VICTORIA 2 WOULD ANYONE PLAY

I ALREADY HAVE 2 CONFIRMED PEOPLE

>>88299990
i-i'm just really tired anon, I swear! fucking uni

>>88299631
Italian wasn't standardized then. Napoleon spoke corsican. In fact, the northern dialects of iItaly resemble more French than they do modern Italian

>>88299301
I don't know the exact details of what became of the tribes of Austria, but I know enough German people came in to absorb fully the inhabitants of the territory. Minor genetic hiccups don't make the people there that are 90% ethnically german any less german than the ones who are 90% german living in pommerania.
The slavic tribes were absorbed or destroyed, but from the survivors we find a distinct culture with distinct languages. See: Sorbs, Czechs.

>>88300062
Sure
What mod

>>88300004
I just want to say, his hair in that painting looks really fucking nice

>>88300062
Don't ask if, if you want to host Vicky multi, fucking host and give the IP.

>>88300004
Austrian, not German

>>88300326
you're a funny guy

>>88300004
>syphilis
>beaten by his father
>best operas in italian
German "culture"

I dont know whats worse
Francophiles or Krautboos
its Francophiles

>>88300416

>best operas

You shouldn't be listening to Beethoven for his opera writing, it's not great.

>>88300062
No, I got bored of Victoria II and Victoria II multiplayer two years ago, like every other non-autist.

>french
>culture

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>this thread

>>88300510
byzaboos > krautboos > frankwankers

frankwankers are actually the only fanboy group i dont mind because theyre the only ones actually capable of proper banter and dont spend so much time masturbating to france as they do shitting on germany

>>88300139
Celts lived there until the slavs came and completely drove them out.
Then the Bavarians started to rule the lands and christianized them. There was no killing or assimilation involved (the bavarians were less than then, actually), just cultural assimilation. Then with the centuries they assimilated with other germans and their genetics got more close to german, though them and greece are the slavs-in-denial countries with more slavs genes in europe (from a third to two thirds of slavic genes)

>>88300510
Greekaboos/romanboos/weeaboos

>>88300543
Mozart's best operas were also in Italian.

>>88300131
If you're going into that, it was not French, it was Provençal(Occitain) Since it was the most used dialect of southern france around that time(even though the french were trying to impose a standard french through the northern french dialect)

>>88300795

True, but that's because Italian is objectively the best singing language. Although I do have a soft spot in my heart for Die Entfuhrung auf dem Serail.

>>88300867
Occitan is simply a exaggerated patois. Most West Romance language onlybdiffer in spelling and how much of your throat you use.

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>>88300763
>dont spend so much time masturbating to france as they do shitting on germany
That's because we hate our country even more than we hate the others. The fact that we spend most of our energy shitting on other countries, then, is the ultimate manifestation of our patriotic self-sacrifice.

>>88300763
>dont spend so much time masturbating to france as they do shitting on germany
Probably because Krautboos (probably half of the people who post here) can't shake the idea that Alsace is somehow German.

>>88301146
>television tax
kek

>>88301115
Jules Ferry pls

>>88301115
It was a significantly different language from old french for a long time.

>>88301205
The Elsaß region will always remain an integral part of Germany.

>
You are now aware culture is elusive and dynamic.

Akl the criteria you've been offering so far don't work.

>>88301069
I... I love the Vogelfanger...

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>>88301115
Fuck you frog, Occitania is Roman clay.

>>88301462
>traditional french territory
>integral part of germany
Germany confirmed for french department.

>>88301462
You can have it back now that we've extracted all the coal, iron and german out of it.

>>88300767
The Bavarians must have had a successive line of administration throughout the generation.

>>88300593

>mfw I thought this was Berserk

Is it Berserk?

>>88301996
They administered it and it had periods of sub-bavarian administration. Eventually, they germanized and christianized the lands

>>88301530
"Occitania" is a non-entity that never existed as a clearly defined nation.

>>88302194
t.buttmad froglet

>>88302060
Nope. It has less oversized swords, about as much rape and even more torture and gore:
https://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=92248

>>88302060
There is no France in Berserk

>>88302194
Occitania is simply the region beyond the limits of Frankish cultural dominance in Roman Gaul. It's not a political entity, that's why it's Roman clay.

MP when?

>>88302252
Buttmad about what? Some people on the internet wanking off about a nation that never existed and a language that's practically dead?

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>>88302423

>The story is about Charles-Henri Sanson, the Royal Executioner of France during the reign of King Louis XVI and High Executioner of the First French Republic.

Neat. Thanks, anon. Any other recommended /gsg/ mangos?

Germans are just less civilized Franks.

Americans are English

China is for Canton

>>88302668
>kojak.txt

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>>88302685
>Germans are just less civilized Franks.
More like Franks are the most civilized of the Germanics (Germanic =/= German)

>>88302685
>Americans are English
You wish. Even ethnically speaking most white Americans are of German descent.

>>88302685
edgy

>>88302994
They're mostly italian or nigger in the most populated areas.

>>88303004
edgy

>>88300616
le beta face

>>88302994
Germans aree the jew of europe

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>>88302661
Quite a few:

Possibly the only manga about the Children's Crusades:
https://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=36863

Shokoku no Altair - Alternate history with obvious parallels to Renaissance Europe + Near East. Best shounen protagonist bar none, pic related.
https://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=12229

Cesare: The Borgias: The Manga
https://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=6675

Non-translated:

Oudou no Inu: Set during the liberal revolutions in East Asia (and specifically Japan) during the 19th century. Vicky as fuck.

Cestus: good old peplum and fighting manga, no superpowers or bullshit, just bronze-tipped knuckles in the teeth and CK-tier courtly intrigues.

I'm forgetting a lot, surely.

>>88302661
I was going to recommend you some but then I remembered I got into an argument with someone using the similar reaction images as you so it was probably you so sorry but I'm not helping out a sworn enemy.

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What the fuck happened to my Europe while I wasn't looking

>>88302994
Technically, most Americans are of English descent. The issue is that English is seen as "default", so if, say, a person is 3/4 English and 1/4 Irish they're going to call themselves Irish American, or 1/2 English 1/2 German they're going to call themselves German American since English isn't perceived as a separate, "foreign" ethnicity to American culture as America was founded by English colonists.

>>88303889
Gunka no Baltzar is pretty cool, an officer from Not-Prussia is sent to train and modernize Not-Bavaria's army the runup to the unification of Not-Germany, last I saw they were in a war with Not-Denmark over Not-Schleswig

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>>88304080

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Dem pops

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>>88304040
WHAAAT

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>>88304040
>Greater Finland
>Lithuania and Perm eating away the Muscovite scourge

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>>88304219
der grosse Nepal, and wait for it...

>>88303930
Probably not the same guy, we found the source last night and cropped a whole bunch of new ones

>>88304040
>vanilla map

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>>88304413
Muenster has the entire Antilles. Morocco has all of Cuba. Brazil is Milanese.

>>88303371

I'm not running the beta, I'm on 2.2.1.1. Also, my graphics drivers are updated and I don't have this problem with EU4 or V2.

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>>88298668
>

The monarchy had reasons to resemble the Tower of Babel; in democracy, leaving the citizens to ignore the national language [that of Paris], unable to control the power, is betraying the motherland... For a free people, the tongue must be one and the same for everyone. [...] How much money have we not spent already for the translation of the laws of the first two national assemblies in the various dialects of France! As if it were our duty to maintain those barbaric jargons and those coarse lingos that can only serve fanatics and counter-revolutionaries now!
Spain should grow some balls and just BTFO the ungrateful catalonians and basques.

>>88304096
Oh yeah, I've been meaning to read that.

Black Knight Story is great too, for WWII.

>>88304853
I'd actually be alright with Catalonian assimiliation, but please leave the Basques alone

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It's that time again, /gsg/

Let's partition Germany.

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>>88305309

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>>88303930

>holding grudges against anonymous posters of a cambodian drawings committee

Suit yourself.

>>88305309
Can't we do France instead?
>The Napoleonic wars will never end with the dissolution of the French state

>>88305437
It's like a literal vacuum.

>>88305309
What >>88305469 said
We've partitioned Germany so many times, there's nothing interesting left to do with it
Post some other countries to partition

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>>88305469
>The Napoleonic wars didn't recognize the 1799 borders
Hold me, /gsg/

>>88305469
>The Napoleonic wars will never end with the dissolution of the French state
Much worse, it ended with the backwards repression of a democratic system.

The enemy of the coalition was the very idea of freedom. They could not tolerate a revolutionary regime. It was different with Germany, where its nationalism was a disease that sought the destruction of its neighbors for its own sake.

>>88305580
>Aix-la-Chapelle is no longer French clay
Charlemagne must be rolling in his crypt.

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>>88305309

Bruce Wayne, Oliver Queen, Clark Kent

They are the true heroes.

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>>88305309

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>>88305717
>tfw the greatest German Emperor is buried in the German city of Aachen

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>>88305550
lets get to it lads

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Let's partition the huge inbred blob, /gsg/

>>88305926
Oh god why is it so blurry
Use nearest neighbour to upscale maps instead of bilinear or whatever the fuck

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>>88305309

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>>88305926
r8 don't h8

>>88305926
>jpg

Let's talk about video games /gsg/

>>88301462
You mean Alsace-Lorraine?

You crazy Germans with your independent languages and your fancy s/b thingy

>>88305986
>>88305926
>these shitty blurry maps

>>88305469
>>88305926
I tried to think of ways of partitioning France, because I made a Vicky2 save in which all the other great powers got balkanized, but I just couldn't think of a good way to do it without giving half the country to Occitania, which doesn't really solve anything.

>>88306206
Never heard of 'em.

>>88306275
Historical dutchies, Normandy, Brittany, Champagne, Provence, Aquitaine, Burgundy etc, ruled by Hapsburg, Hohenzollern and Saxe-Coburg monarchs

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>>88306275
>Une et Indivisible

best army set up for soldiers in vicky2?
also hussars or dragoons

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>>88305986
>>88306229
This one ain't blurry.

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>>88305986

>>88306172
Woah, what's with all the lakes around France?

>>88306580
They get dug by the Germans to physcally divide the French population

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Here. DH version. Non-blurry. Enjoy, if you can.

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>>88306275
If you don't want Occitania but also don't want to get bogged down in a million duchies, split it off Aquitaine and Burgundy in the south

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>>88305986
I might have messed up a few borders (I couldn't figure out where the fuck Bratislava is supposed to be)

>>88306690
>that awful fill tool job
kill yourself

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Italian Adriatic sea get

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>>88305986

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>>88306690

>>88306993
Give Poland rightful access to the Adriatic

>>88307275
Bretty good.

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>>88306690
light gray is limousin
green is aquitaine
light blue is ile-de-france
darker blue is centre
purple is brittany
ugly mud is burgundy (no shit)

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>>88307275

>>88307756
sorry for the shit crop job, I didn't notice

>>88307828
>giving lorraine to provence
>letting historical claims outweigh not being retarded

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HOSTING V2 MP LONDON RAP EDITION
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_FZkDXupQM

69.142.98.232
ILMC
http://mega.co.nz/#!lNZ2TTLY!2-DA-4HKxTx_m7LifrcAWGHtO6zqNlV-I47p7LZjaYs

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>>88306690
Discuss.

>>88308040
nonono that was a different pink

I meant for it to be Champagne pink and ...

oh shit it's the same pink

oopsie

>>88307756
>giving normandy to england

>>88308108
coming m8 gimme 5

>>88308207
well at least it had an unintentional historical grounding

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Havoc playing out in my broken world game, lads. The US diplo-annexed New England which has led to nationalist uprising crawling towards Washington, unimpeded for whatever reason.

New England and Massachusetts are both slave states, with CSA cores.

>>88308181
>No Netherlands
>No Piedmont
>No Catalonia

It's shit

>>88308181
return swizz clay and it'll be 8/10

>>88308181
Why would you split up the confederation of the rhine like that?

>>88308108
>all mpfags are British

>>88308245
I think he gave England to Normandy

>>88308245
>suggesting those savage northmen can rule themselves

>>88308181
now see, I really have mixed feelings about the partitioning of die Schweiz. They are a mixed up bunch and all, but I think their common history of federalism is at least a better excuse to be a country than Belgium has. On that subject, give Flanders to the Netherlands. With Vibourg, Ticino, and Grisons back in Swiss hands, this map is just fine. I do prefer Corsica to be Italian, but after the whole Napoleon thing there isn't much going back.

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>>88306690
Only logical answer.

>>88308328
Post more!

>>88308470
Kojak is Irish

In HPM, how do I break away as poland?

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It was inevitable.

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>>88308328
Reactionaries have taken over, and the CSA has broken away. The US is locked in a war with England and Quebec on behalf of Canada for some core-taking.

New English nationalists have reached South Dakota.

>>88308739
>taking away 10% of french land
what is partition?

>>88308918
Wait for the January Uprising

>>88308108
Wait a minute please

>>88308471
Even worse

>>88308571
>wanting the Chav invasion

>>88308829

Tiocfaidh ár Lá.

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>Toothpaste
>Draculaland
>Venetian Yugoslavia
>Grosse Lietuva

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>>88308983
>hasn't played Kaisserreich

>>88309032
Tá sé rud ar bith pearsanta, leanbh.

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>>88308983

>>88309031
looks like the chav invasion has already happened if the frogs are being partitioned
sorry m8

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>>88306690

>>88309541

*Ní rud pearsanta é, a leanbh.

Get the fuck off Google translate, you shit.

>>88309873
I'm sorry not everyone doesn't speak your dead language

When was the last partition?

>>88309921
Sudan.

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So, China westernized in 1887, and the immigration bomb is happening.

But I can't understand how the chinks are choosing their target. Argentina is getting nearly as many as the USA, but I, an uber-Bolivia, get none. I have +27% total immigration appeal from laws, Argentina has 13%. I loaded up as them, and I didn't see any country modifiers like the USA has.

Anybody know whats going on?

Pic not really related, but the USA somehow became a Presidential Dictatorship under the Southern Democrats. The Civil War never happened, but slavery was still outlawed.

>>88309913

Ní teanga marbh é.

>>88309786
>implying basques still exist

>>88309961
Migration calculation seems to also take into account a bunch of other stuff like RGO employment and type, province population, life rating
All of which it promptly discards and picks a destination at random

>>88309961
Is liberty your national value? You seem to also have unemployment. Idk what else could be happening.

>>88304080

Nah. Well, I assume by "most" we just mean "largest single group", because of course no single group forms a majority.

But I think you're wrong even with this understanding. Given the swamping of immigrants from the rest of Europe that occurred after immigration, and the relatively small number of Englishmen, I highly doubt that English/generic "American" is the largest single group in the US today.

>>88308108
Get in here faggots, the whole gangs there

>>88310430
>joe just calling people out

no ice

>>88309961
You have infamy, MIL and unemployment
Argentina also gets a bonus for a time to simulate IRL immigration boom if you are playing HPM
And the USA loses the statue of liberty modifier if they become a presidential dictatorship

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>>88310329

Where do I see national value? I thought that was just a PDM thing, and I've switched from that to HPM.

And the unemployment is <1k craftsmen per state at worst, <500 in all but one state. I'm really not that industrialized, though I don't even think Argentina has one functioning factory.

Another pic from earlier in the game, Austria apparently got bored of their brother's war and hired the UK as a foster brother.

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>Finnish Mexico
>Norwegian Mexico & Colombia
le spurdo face

It'd be pretty neat if there was a vicky 2 mod that made the Ausgleich a bad thing like it was historically. It'd make playing Austria harder, but in my experience it's pretty damn easy as-is.

>>88310550

Argentina has no modifier, while USA still has a +50%, I checked both. USA does indeed lack Statue of Liberty though.

Also, I still get a similar number of European immigrants as Argentina and even the US, it's just the China Bomb that is avoiding me.

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>>88310576
>Brother's war start
>Austria drops out, only the UK is in
Kek, look like the UK got UK'ed

Just a heads up that the HRE is "broken" with the new patch and occupation system.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KB3oAapvS10

>>88310795
They have plus 50% of what?
You see your national value in the politics tab btw, besides your government type.
About the chinks avoiding you, well it's not really something controllabe. It's strange they prefer a presidential dictatorship but that's probably due to lots of job opportunities (while you have unemployment) and the fact they are a GP.
Pops ALWAYS prefer a GP.

>>88310990
>26 minutes
It would be a lot easier for you to sum up what he does.

>>88311153
gives a bunch of provinces to his allies, provinces that they can't core, gets no A.E. himself, then demands unlawful territory for imperial authority. Rinse and repeat.

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Following the DEVASTATION of the ACTIONS and eventual BANISHMENT of the Three Horsemen of the MUSCLEMALE APOCALYPSE of 2015 AD (THE HIPSTER, THE WHITE KNIGHT AND THE CUCKOLD) the Worldwide man was in a humiliating and tragic state; men would willingly forgo ordinary and healthy relationships for a diet of "Consensual" Non-Monogamy (CUCKOLD), Organic Indie Ukulele Google Glasses i-phone noises at the Starbucks Coffee Shop (HIPSTER) and defending women online with the intention of getting laid (WHITE KNIGHT).

Thus, an international plan was tasked by the world governments to the greatest of Musclemancers and Bro-Scientists: The Creation Of A New Generation Of Men With The Perfect Balance Of ATHLETIC ABILITY, ALPHA WOLF INSTINCT and perhaps most importantly SEXUAL PROWESS. Thus the SEXMAN Competition was born.

Following a tough regime of intense bodybuilding, blisteringly hot sex, shaming and naming internet nerds THESE YOUNG MUSCLE BOUND WARRIORS COMPETE in what may be the greatest championship in mankind's history.

HAILING from the Beach-Slums and SweatZones of MUNICIPAL DRONE BLOCK ACRONYM "NLA" (NeoLosAngeles) This SEXMAN Of The Cybernetic Angel demonstrates perfect technique. He is the MAJOR OF MUSCLES, THE CRUSHER OF CUCKS, THE DUX OF DICKINGS, THE ACE OF AESTHETICS...

In the footsteps of the heroes and brainboxes of the Pantheon of Western Civilization...

Scoring Absolute Perfect In Muscles, Domination and Fuck...

The Son Of Hercules Himself....

Ladies and Gentlemen, we present to you SEXILLION MUSCLEBOUNDUS, The New Champion Of The United States, The Muscle Magician, Displaying Implacable Excellence....

HE IS

SEXMAN

USA!

>>88311647
Heh, nice wall of text bobo.

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So, the Argentines have more militancy than me, and the same number of unemployed craftsmen yet with a lower population. Yet they get 7k Chinamen a month, I get 0.

Only thing I can think of is the badboy. I'll drop it to 0 via save-editing and see what happens.

Either way, I'm going to mod out Chinese emigration after Argentina catches up to her neighbors in pop, the game will get completely imbalanced otherwise.

>>88310576
Polotics tab, top left, to see national value.
Make sure your pops aren't all poor as shit and at least 10% are getting luxury needs. Make sure your farmers/labourers are not unemployed.

>>88311823
Did they unify recently?
Do they have any national modifiers? Do they have open spots? Are they a GP?

>>88311094

+50% immigrant attraction from the Homestead Act, sorry.

I'm not concerned about them picking the USA over me, I'm worked up over them picking Argentina, which is less free, less industrialized, and just generally shittier than me in every way. I'm closer to China, to boot.

>>88312030
Pops don't consider distance, unfortunately.

>>88311996

Argentina are ranked 50th, I'm 10th-12th, varies by month.

They unified decades ago, have no national modifiers. I dunno what you mean by open slots.

Aaaaand I can think of no way to lower badboy. Editing in "badboy=0.000" in the save file did nothing. I changed my national value to liberty, and although that stuck, it hasn't affected immigration from China.

>>88311823
>>88312427
Are you a democracy with universal suffrage? Are they?

>>88312427
How much did you wait for the changes? Immigration is calculated monthly IIRC
http://www.paradoxian.org/vicky2wiki/Migration

By open spots I mean if they have any industry with open job spots
Remember that if your unemployment is 10% or more then you get a huge decrease

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Finally got around to fixing up romania and transylvania
Might give greece a few provinces soon then move on to britain

>>88313170
What does Greece currently look like?

>>88312770

Yes. I have all political reforms, and a smattering of social reforms. Argentina is a full democracy too, I think, but they are missing some political reforms. Overall, I get >25% immigrant attraction from reforms, they get <15%.

>>88313052

This has been going on for the better part of a year, and Argentina is now ~10% Chinese.

I'm pretty sure I have some open job spots, but I have the usual early-industrial unemployment, with some scattered bodies of <1k craftsmen who haven't found a factory. Argentina has the same unemployment patterns as me though, so I don't think they have open jobs where I don't.

More importantly, our immigration from Europe is almost identical. It's just the Chinese immigration that is totally lopsided.

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>called into war by allies
>just so happens The Hansa is on the other side
>chance to take Lubeck before I even annex Holstein
>mission gives me a claim on it as well
>take it
>AGGRESSIVE EXPANSION
>AGGRESSIVE EXPANSION
>AGGRESSIVE EXPANSION
>giant fucking coalition against me now
I took one province what the shit Austria.

>>88313170
who are you and why do I care about your blog

>>88313526
Then it's just bad luck. Sometimes that happens. Having more immigrant attraction helps, but doesn't guarantee a spot.

>>88313501
basically like vanilla except moved around a bit because that's what it is
I'm gonna give it 2-3 provinces