/smtg/ shin megami tensei general

>>84724045

>No edition

Every day marks you with a new low.

ChIAKI BEST

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>he made a new thread

>>84724121
are thread editions a new meme

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>>84724158

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>>84724214

I only come to smtg for the ebin memes. I cant wait to see what you guys come up with next, LMAO.

>>84723387
>>84723931
ahahaha beta ass fag

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>>84724343
>implying I made the thread

If only DDS2 hadn't nerfed hunt skills and fucked up the writing with soap opera-tier dialogue and made half the game set in samey office blocks and had actually given some warning before your party members are taken away and had a less annoying random encounter rate the duology would be the pinnacle of smt

o well

>>84724439
>if only it were a totally different game
Quit whining

>>84724781
>we are not allowed to point out objective flaws

Fuck off to your tumblr hugbox

>>84724846
>stop disagreeing with me
We're doing this out of bored right?

>>84724846
Nah, you're not allowed to point out things that aren't flaws as flaws.

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I want to fuck Mirai

>>84725016
there we go

>>84724984
?

Your nothing kid.

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>>84724984
>>84725000


Both of you shut the fuck up, and make me some DANK MEMES

>>84725000
I'd love to hear the mental gymnastics involved in defending the design decisions listed

>>84725069
I don't have to defend myself from opinions.

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>>84724439
>had actually given some warning before your party members are taken away
pussy

>>84724439
You sound like a pussy-ass bitch-faggot.
"Wah muh warnings"
"Wah muh encounter rate"
"Wah muh office rumble"
Stop bitching. I bet you didn't even play the game on hard mode.

<objectivefact>
DEVIL SUMMONER TIER LIST
>Hacker
>Raidou
>Kyouji

PERSONA TIER LIST
>Tatsuya
>Door
>Maya
>Earring
>Yu

MAINLINE TIER LIST
>Space Marine (fuck you it's as good as)
>Aleph
>Flynn
>Demifiend
>Hero
</objectivefact>

>>84725228
>playing any smt on hard for any reason ever

not a single one does hard mode well

it just means more grinding

inb4 GRINDING IS A SKILL I SWEAR

to that guy who said that he didn't think Philly gave the characters in 3 and 4 their personas in the last thread, apparently he was meant to be that butterfly you saw dicking around and did give them their powers. The strega probably didn't get this though, hence why they had to force it out of themselves

>>84725404
>thinking Hard Mode has to be anything else
Bitch, even fake difficulty is better than nothing.

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>>84725280
>hacker above raidou
sure, whatever

>door above maya

>demifiend that low on the list
ha ha
>hero at the bottom
you're cruel

*cough*

g-guys

just got into law school and I want to play some smt to celebrate, what game has the best law route? I'm normally a neuter or a chaosfag so I don't really know much about the law stuff

>>84729060
IV

SMT x FE is going to be good, right guys?

>>84730802
_no

>>84730802
Yes

>>84730802
Maybe

>>84730802
I don't know

>>84730802
possibly

>>84730802
Can you repeat the question?

Since SMT 4 comes out in two days in Europe (great you US guys get a sale for it at the same time it gets released here but whatever):

Having only played Nocturne of the main SMT series, but also DDS, Devil Summoner and Persona is it worth it? Or should I rather wait for a sale in ~2 years?

>>84733248
It's pretty cheap, I'd get it if you liked the other stuff

>>84733248
not a eurofag but I think it's getting put up at a reduced price with all the DLC included. That said, Atlus seem to put their shit on sale a lot so it may drop even further from there in the near future

>remake persona 1, EP and IS
>make no attempt to fix the gameplay problems

why, they ruin otherwise great games

>>84737176

That'd require spending too much of the Persona funbux

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I want to fuck Mirai

>>84737640
late

>>84725404
Wow, fuck off, you pussy.
Do you feel good for not being able to beat a game with a hard cock? Are you proud? I bet you're crying your eyes out whenever you die on normal or even easy and Charon laughs his white ass off because you can't do anything.

>>84729060
>what game has the best law route
2 and Strange Journey

IF... WHEN

GIDEON YOU CHINK FUCK JEW FUCK YOU

Any other SMT games for 3DS other than Soul Hackers, DeSu OC, and IV?

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>>84737916
>IF... WHEN
If... when you stop forcing Gideon to speed his shit up
If people keep forcing Gideon, the pic will be the result

>>84739293
FORCING?

IAN FINISHED TRANSLATING THE TEXT TWO FUCKING YEARS AGO

GIDEON SAID HIMSELF THAT THE HACKING IS IDENTICAL TO SMT II

HE BASICALLY ADMITTED TO SPENDING 2 YEARS DICKING AROUND WITH THE FUCKING FONT

>>84738543
no

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>>84739810
>FINISHED TRANSLATING THE TEXT TWO FUCKING YEARS AGO
>2 YEARS DICKING AROUND WITH THE FUCKING FONT
Are you fucking kidding me right now?
If this is true, fuck Gideon. He's holding If... out on us.
Why hasn't anybody called him out on this bullshit?

>>84739969
I'm calling him out on his bullshit right now

>>84738543
Persona Q and Break Record.

Any news from Gideon?
Wasn't IF translation supposed to be released today?

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>>84740462
>break record

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>>84740462
>>84740832

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>>84740832

Break Record is literally the only non-persona megaten title to be released as of now.

>>84741279
What about SMT x FE?

>>84741553

well that's kind of limbo with no release date.

Break Record is being released in a few months.

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>>84741279
>literally the only non-persona megaten title to be released as of now.

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what should I attempt to draw today anons?

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>>84741924
YHVH literally driving Merkabah

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>>84741823

hey old man, help me wipe everything out.

>>84739969
A lot of people have been calling him out for a lot of time now.

>>84740198
Where?

>>84742039
explain a bit more please anon

>>84742040
I wonder what kind of journey P5 Hero will go to.

>>84742095
Merkabah is his chariot. How that would work at all is going to take a more clever man than I.

>>84742114

He'll learn the true value of the bonds he forms with those dear to him and with those bonds there's nothing he and his friends can't do.

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>>84742040
>old

>>84742164
does YVHW have hands or is he a lonesome green head?

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>>84742312
>Share a Coke with Nyarlathotep

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>>84742095
See >>84742164

YHVH driving Merkabah like a godly car / chariot / whatever.
And when he "honks the horn" it plays either Zelenin's Aria or the Law Theme.
And Merkabah has quadruple turbo boosters on its back, spewing out Deadly Wind a la Nitrous Oxide.
Headlights are Godly Light.
And Merkabah has a Metatron bobblehead somewhere on it.

>>84742450
Hands.

>>84742450
>Green

>>84742217
D-did someone leak P5 plot?are plongfo

>>84742450
Oh, and if you can, please make YHVH look like Vin Diesel.
Keep Merkabah looking about the same as in SMT IV. Your call as to use either his first or second form.

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>>84742513
Ill attempt it anon, it might not be finished today but if youre a frequent here then it will get posted

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>>84742631
You are extremely based and I love you for it.
I am frequent here, so no problem!
Also see >>84742618

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>>84742741
notes taken anon
so this is gonna be need for speed smt edition?
I was gonna use this one since it seemed a little easier but if you want smt4 merk Ill try
>>84742596
what color is he then anon?

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>>84742892
Yellow. Are you being serious right now?

>>84742613

Yes. I have a rough draft with me.

>>84743030
he really looks light green to me anon, I am also colorblind so that may not help

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I found this while I was looking around

*dies from the lack of break record*

>>84743767
Fuck break record, If... translation is way more important!

Am I the only one who laughed at the first death clip in DeSu 2?

>>84743824
If... doesn't have Fumi.

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>>84743872

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>>84742892
This anon (>>84743030) isn't me.
But as for your notes:
Hell yes. Need for speed SMT Edition
That version of Merkabah can work, looks more suited to the role of "Godly Chariot Car". Could also have an SMT IV Alternate Merkabah God Car picture, if you want.
>>84743114
Being colorblind is not a problem.
>>84743458
Rekt m8
>>84744324
That killed my sides

>>84744619
>This anon (>>84743030 (You)) isn't me.
Why did you bother to make this distinction?

Btw this >>84743995 isn't me.

>>84745431
>that feeling when someone replies to your post to make a point

>>84744619
kek alright anon, Ive already got an idea for it
if I cant post it in the next couple days its because I dont have a scanner on hand at the very latest itll be this sunday, earliest, probably thursday depending on how today goes

>>84744619
http://aurotoiras.tumblr.com/
theres my tumblr in case I post it while youre not here

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>>84747137
Many thanks.

My Super Pixie in Nocturne is wanting to evolve. Should I let it?

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>>84747414
I have no idea if it keeps it's Uber stats when it evolves.

I hope you saved beforehand. If so, give it a go and tell us what happened.
If you didn't say no. Then save and try next level up.
This way we will know for sure, without your party being negatively affected due to not saving.
Win/win.

>>84747637

It gave me a High Pixie with lower everything but 40 luck. Not worth it.

>>84748134
I don't even begin to understand the logic behind that.

>>84748313
It evolves into a H Pixie without the extra stats Uber Pixie gets+the stats a pixie would get by normally leveling up to 80.

>>84748134
Grind her until she turns into a Queen Mab.

>>84748583
just use the compendium
register the uber pixie

then let it evolve and get a high pixie and queen mab with decent moves.
sure it's a waste of macca, but there's novelty and maybe it might be useful with fusion

>>84749421
Ill grind you until you turn into queen mab

>>84749569
I honestly don't know what to stick in the last 3 slots. Focus/Hades Blast/Pierce? Debilitate/Tarukaja/Elec boost?

>that cool faq from gamefaqs with all personae and their skills is gone now
Well that's unexpected and shitty
Is there anything like that elsewhere?

>>84749936
People need to learn to specify which game.

>>84750063
P3FES

>>84750134
http://www.gamefaqs.com/ps2/937269-shin-megami-tensei-persona-3-fes/faqs/53232
This seems to have all the personae and their skills. As does the wiki.

>>84749936
>personae
I like you, I bet you say the plural form of cestus correctly too

Gonna throw an old idea for a possible DeSu game that I made a couple of months back for the sake of disccussion

>Series
Devil Survivor
>Setting
Well, it will have to be a different setting from 1 and 2, but I would want a direction more akin to 1 than 2. Let's make it 20XX, but instead of high school students we get college students and up, though there are two child characters. One would be the Agi/Str -Vig build while the other would be Mag/Str -Vig. Anyway. Keeping with the fact that the Amala Network is fucking crazy and all, What about a case where two universes start to diverge into each other. Instead of one person starting the whole "I'M SUMMONING THE DEMONS!" let's make it a natural, though disastrous, event. So now this world is thrown in a worldwide event that is not just limited to one area, though the scope of the game will be limited to that of what the main characters will be involved with. It is now truly a Devil Survivor game, where survival is not just a race of 7 days, but a length of time that allows for a full and developed game.
>Two Guest Artists
I am leaning toward Kentaro Miura and Yuki Urushibara for guest Demon designs. As for main, I still want to keep Yasuda on the main, but have Kaneko be in initial character designs and have Yasuda expand or base the characters off of that. Kaneko will also be part of the design team so no worries about highly divergent differences.
>Two artists
Takami Asano and Kenichi Tsuchiya
>Post Game Boss
Though most people would think that Abel would be a great cameo boss, I would rather have a return of Black Frost. In addition, I think some form of YHWH would be a cool secret boss.

Looking back, maybe a YHWH secret boss would be trying too hard.


But I do want a bigger game that isn't limited to just 7 days

>>84750521
Oh hey, it's even better, thanks!
>>84750567
Cestus has a plural? What's that, cestae?

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>>84750603
>yhwh a secret boss

>>84750727
Not him but caestus if I'm not mistaken.

>>84749864
>Focus/Hades Blast/Pierce
I have a suspicion that you might find this more useful.

are you talking about for using uber pixie, or a moveset for evolving uber pixie?
i guess it doesn't really matter.

>random skill inheritance
good luck trying to get those skills in fusion without tearing your hair out.

>>84750861
For the uber pixie, used to reshuffling for 5+hours.

>>84751036
>reshuffling for 5+hours
how horrifying. you've got more resolve than me.

why was that necessary to the experience? why, atlus?
at least DeSu/smt4 freed us from that suffering.

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>>84750603
>YHWH

>>84751354
With DeSu, Persona 4, SMT4 having selective skill inheritance, it seems to be a trend that'll last
I think they didn't think that people would take it seriously, that's why it's random. I mean, SMT1 had no inheritance, SMT2 had it as a little bonus when fusing demons, and that's how they kept seeing that since then, while players gave it actual attention

>>84751579
also, assuming that you're the same uber pixie anon,

focus/hades blast/pierce should be useful for the headstone/boss rematches.
maybe
if you haven't done that yet

Will SMT4 convince Persona fags that SMT is superior like Nocturne did?

>>84751981
I'm not that guy
>>84752196
I doubt anyone cares for that

>>84750603
Seems nice.

Make the secret/ultimate boss Demiurge

>>84752196

SMT4 doesn't have social links so no

I took a break from SMT after finishing both I and II over the past month, but now I'm in the mood to continue. Can't decide if I should go straight to Nocturne or Digital Devil Saga next, or even the Raidou games. What do you think /smtg/

>>84752589
In release order

>>84752589
Nocturne

DON'T WASTE YOUR DEFENDING

>>84752635
I would if "If" was translated.

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>>84750603
>yhwh a secret boss

>>84750842
>>84751468
Like I said, a little bit too reaching and trying hard.

Hell, maybe a group Jjack battle.

Frost, Pryo, Ripper, King, Ace, Demonica, and Black all want to have a hee ho time and they decided on your group to be the pinata.

>>84752808
My answer still stands, if doesn't really differentiate like Nocturne does

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>>84752928
Fuck off chaos scum

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>>84753165
>chaos
>scum
pick one

>>84737176
>gameplay problems
>literally the oldschool SMT combat system with fusion spells
only thing that's problematic is that IS is way too easy.

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Will Atlus do anything for Devil Summoner's 20th year?

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>>84752928
>the ayy in my lmao is erect

what do you anons do when youre tired but dont want to go to sleep?

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>>84753662
Play Ace Attorney games.

>>84753574
Nothing.

>>84753662
go to sleep

>>84753662

Summon a Sandman

>>84753662
Currently. Samurai Warrior 4 and DeSu 1 OC as well as Smash and reading up on school stuff.

Nocturne it is. Wish me luck. Flipping a coin to see if I am going to play hard.

>>84753662
jerk off

>>84753662
Play video games or read.

>>84753826
pls no
>>84753856
I think hes already made his rounds
>>84753872
samurai warrior 4?
>>84753923
I am pure anon
>>84753975
I dont feel like doing either of those Ive already worked out today and it rekt my legs, send help and cocaine

>>84754106
PS4 Game

http://koei.wikia.com/wiki/Samurai_Warriors_4

Well, the only retail version, at least.

You can download it for PS3 and Vita

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>>84753273
By the good grace of God I pick both.

>>84754106
>pure
>posting on 4chan
Hahhahahaha

>>84754250
did it just come out?
sometimes I regret buying an xbone

>>84754447
Yes, and you should feel bad about buying that

PS4/Wiiu/3DS/PC is the way to go this generation

>>84754538
I bought it to play with my friends and ive got a ps4 in my house Im excited for the master chief collection
Im gonna get a wiiu and a 3ds at some point though, they have too many good games

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>>84754538
>Wiiu

Why do people still delude themselves thinking this was a good purchase

PC for exclusives/emulators/making your own game
3DS for playing Monster Hunter and SMT on the crapper
PS3 because it's unemulatable and it's gonna be a homebrew haven when Sony drops support. Oh, and exclusives

When PS4 drops to €300 add that to the list for KHIII/FFXV/Bloodborne

>>84754987
Cause dem Nintendo games, duh.

That, and Always have at least two consoles.


But back on track.


How would a Devil Survivor game work on the Wii U. Same concept with duel screen.

Do you think Atlus would be able to utilize a console for the Devil Survivor formula?

>>84754987
KH3 is gonna be on xbone too anon, ff15 will more than likely be shit and so will bloodbourne after the catastrophe that was ds2

>>84755239
it would probably use the screen as a quickmenu

>>84755239
Nintendo games haven't been good for a long while now.
Second console is PS4, if you really need another one

>>84755367
Huh, I would think that gamepad could be used as a COMP of some sort.

Oh, that's another thing I want back in DeSu, COMPs. No cell phone crap, I want some good old COMPs

>>84755367
>picking a console multiplat on the weaker console
naw
Miyazaki was the person who made the first two good, and wasn't involved with DaS2. He is involved with Bloodborne, and the alpha pretty solid and what I expected.

What's the difference between magatsuhi and magnetite?

>>84755367
>the catastrophe that was ds2
>that much hyperbole

yeah, it wasn't as unified and interesting as it SHOULD have been, but it's only passable at worst.

don't be a bitch.

>>84754538
>ps4
>not Vita

I just finished Nocturne and loved it. Surprised how well they fit Dante in.

Not sure what I should play next. I can't decide between DDS, Raidou, or Strange Journey.

>>84756240
Sony has dropped 1st party support for that device and is now labeling it as a PS4 companion device in the West.

And for SMT/MT, it wouldn't be the best device since you can already use a PSP to get most of the past games via emulation.

In Nocturne when Ahriman forbids physical attacks, does that include physical/almighty skills like Freikugel?

>>84752196
SMTIV is too hard and destroys your gamer pride.

>>84756559
DDS for an story, characters and more press turn.
SJ for more dungeon crawling and alignment fights.
Raidou for ARPG and more cheerful setting.

>>84752589
wait for if...

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>Shijima created by a gaean
>Has the support of all the chaos demons
So is this what Chaos aligned would support?

>>84758193
All reasons are Law.

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>>84758494
That isn't the point. I'm asking if the world of Shijima is one that Chaos aligned would want, ignoring the overarching conflict against the Great Will.

This list needs updating : what changed ?

[NT] Digital Devil Story: Megami Tensei
[NT] Digital Devil Story: Megami Tensei II
[OT] Shin Megami Tensei
[FT] Shin Megami Tensei II
[NT] Shin Megami Tensei if...
[OT] Shin Megami Tensei III: Nocturne (Lucifer's Call)
[OT] Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey
[OT] Shin Megami Tensei IV
[NT] Devil Summoner
[OT] Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner: Soul Hackers
[OT] Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner: Raidou Kuzunoha vs. The Soulless Army
[OT] Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner 2: Raidou Kuzunoha vs. King Abaddon
[OT] Shin Megami Tensei: Persona (Revelations: Persona)
[OT] Persona 2: Innocent Sin
[OT] Persona 2: Eternal Punishment
[OT] Persona 3 FES
[OT] Persona 4
[OT] Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga
[OT] Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga 2
[OT] Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor
[OT] Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor 2
[NT] Shin Megami Tensei NINE
[OT] Revelations: The Demon Slayer (Megami Tensei Gaiden: Last Bible)
[FT] Megami Tensei Gaiden: Last Bible II
[NT] Last Bible III
[FT] Another Bible
[NT] Last Bible Special
[NT] Majin Tensei
[NT] Majin Tensei II: Spiral Nemesis
[NT] Ronde
[NT] Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Children Black Book
[NT] Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Children Red Book
[NT] Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Children White Book
[OT] Shin Megami Tensei: DemiKids: Light Version
[OT] Shin Megami Tensei: DemiKids: Dark Version
[NT] Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Children Book of Fire
[NT] Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Children Book of Ice
[NT] Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Children Messiah Riser
[NT] Giten Megami Tensei

[OT] Jack Bros
[NT] Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Children Puzzle de Call!
[OT] Persona 4 Arena

NT means No Translation, OT means Official Translation and FT means Fan Translation.

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>>84740470
It isn't happening, he said so on Twitter

>>84754987
>PC for exclusives
Haha, good one, anon
I sure hope that next numbered SMT is gonna be on a stationary, not a handheld

>>84752196
You mean the Dark Souls of Persona?

>>84758902
>NT means No Translation, OT means Official Translation and FT means Fan Translation.
No shit. Is this for retards?
You know, 4chan isn't full of retards. At least that's what I hope. So please refrain from doing such stuff. It is offending to my intelligence.

>>84758902
Kyuuyaku got a fan translation

>>84758996
There are loads of niche/user-made games only available on PC which are worth playing, and a few every few months coming out.

>>84759531
>muh intelligence!

>>84759531
He pulled it from a thread on Gideon's forum

>>84758193
you can read a lot of shit into the nocturne reasons

and it's been discussed to death here in the past...

I still think that there's a difference between the usual 'fixing a world that already exists' and 'influencing a new world at its creation.' not sure how that actually changes anything now that it's typed out...

they want to make a world that will need them? a world of stillness will need chaos, because it has none inherently. a world of yosuga needs some smiting because why not, they have it coming.
musubi is for fags.
neuter is the only actual reset button ending in my memory, so it's kinda dumb compared to other neutral endings.
TDE is clearly a straight-up chaos ending, so it doesn't really count

>>84757567

Damn it, those all sound good! I guess I'm leaning more Strange Journey right now though.

>>84757853
If he wants to play an SMT game now, telling him to wait for a translation that won't be out for at least a couple months seems like a terrible idea.

>>84759887
Stop abusing the spoiler tag holy fuck

>>84757567
>DDS for finding out if grinding mantras is more or less of a headache than fusion skill shuffling in nocturne

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>>84759969
Good choice SJ is pretty damm awesome, be aware that no press turn this time.

>>84760090
are you the same anon who gets mad at spoiler tags?
i'm not trying to hide my opinion, just making sure anyone who wants to read my opinion has some consent before doing so.

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i really hope i didn't mess that up

>>84760257

So is it more standard combat like SMT1 or SH?

>>84759887
>they want to make a world that will need them? a world of stillness will need chaos, because it has none inherently
I don't think that's why Hikawa wanted Shijima.

>>84760810
>i'm not trying to hide my opinion, just making sure anyone who wants to read my opinion has some consent before doing so.
Not him, but what kind of trigger warning horse shit is that? And seriously, knock it off with the spoiler abuse. Its an eye-sore and a rule violation.

>>84760810
>i'm not trying to hide my opinion, just making sure anyone who wants to read my opinion has some consent before doing so.
Fuck, man. What is this shit? Are you stupid?
Everyone here reading shit is doing so out of free will. Your post isn't an exception. We don't need extra consent for your posts.
Even if your posts are as shitty and smelly as this one I'm responding to.
Fuck, I think I have to throw up.
Thanks, asshole.

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>http://www.siliconera.com/2014/10/26/shoji-meguro-rearranged-music-devil-survivor-2-break-records-first-print-bonus/

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>>84760967
The game uses a system called demon coop were you exploit a weakness then every demon sharing the same alignment will deal bonus nonelemental damage.

Its not as good as press turn but its at least better than SMT 1&2&SH.

Dungeons is were SJ excells at.

>>84761489
you aint fuckin joking

some of those dungeons were nightmares, I think thats why I shelved the game for the longest. That dungeon with the teleporters, fuck that

>>84761215
>2 days late

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>>84760810
oops

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>>84761031
>>84761137
>trigger warning
jesus christ, chill out
i'm joking that someone probably thinks that my interpretation is wrong, and i didn't want to invite debate because i'm confident in my opinion to disseminate it, but i'm not interested in trying to defend it because i'm pretty sure there's some interview that talks about the reasons. the path of least resistance is to ignore it.
>trigger warning: someone used the word "consent"
>oh god how dare you, touchy subject
seems a bit ironic

>inb4 banned

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How do you like my shitty drawing /smtg/?

what's the best SMT game to snag if dungeon crawling isn't really my thing?

or do they all have that aspect?

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>>84762525
kawaii anon.

>>84758964
technically he just said he's "almost certainly" not going to make the deadline

i-im still holding out hope...

>>84762048
Cry more.

>>84762670
Devil Survivor, it's SRPG so no dungeons.

>>84761798
Fucking this

I was stuck on that shit for like an hour until I had to resort to a guide.
and fucking ouroboro keeps kicking my ass

>>84761489
SJ remake with EO map-drawing when!?

Atlus pls, I need this. I fucking loved drawing maps.

>>84762670
SMT 4 and Persona 4.

>>84762670
shin megami tensei iv

it sort of has dungeons, but it's more exploratory like fallout or something and less about mapping out a place and fighting damage floors and teleporters.

>>84762756
I knew there was one that didn't have dungeon crawling.

Thanks anon. I really liked SMT IV but dungeon crawling makes me feel anxious to the point of not wanting to play the game even though I really liked it....

>>84761215
>non-Meguro OST Megurofied
This should happen to every game. Can't get enough of those lyrics that make me cry every time.

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>>84762771
you're welcome

>>84763086
But I want pretty colors I can make with my stylus! Pen and paper is old shit, get with the times grandpa!

>>84762861
>>84762882
I have SMT IV but I've never played any of the persona series. Is there even any on the 3DS? I know Persona Q is coming out but other than that I couldn't find any?

Ah well. I'm going to get Devil Survivor Overlocked since I don't think I've ever really played an SRPG before.

>>84763382
tape a crayon to a stylus then, son of man

>>84763557
nahhh there's not, and persona q's pretty much going to be pure dungeon crawler from what i've heard. if you have a ps3 or vita, you can get any of the persona games.

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> 28 Hours until SMT IV EU

The Eshop will update at midnight, right?

>>84763950
nope sorry bro, atlus just called, SMT IV EU release is off. your mum just called me too. said it's time for you to go home. she said you'd know what it meant.

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>>84764282

>>84764361
No I would never think that. I trust you Mastema!

>>84761489
Speaking of dungeons, I started exploring the second Kalpa yesterday, and I actually had to draw my own map of B3. But hell, does the labyrinth gets more complex at a steady pace? Because if that's the case the next calpas are going to be nothing short of painful.

>>84766510
Yes. The kalpas gets more complex and some annoying the farther you go.

>>84766510
There are portals that change where they spit you out depending on what moon phase you go through them. The hardest boss (for me anyways) is behind a specific route through this teleporter nonsense and is required for TDE.

>>84762771
>please atlus I need unnecessary busy work added to my game for no reason
I bet you loved reloading your gun manually in soul hackers after every combat too.

>>84767442
Drawing is fun.

>>84767442

MY GOD

THERE'S NO BULLET

>>84757198
I'm not sure, but isn't he before you can get Freikugel? You could test your theory with kamikaze

>>84767809
I was doing the Burial Chambers.

>>84767912
I see. And I just realized kamikaze kills you so you couldnt really test with that

>>84767442
The drawing isn't a requirement, nerd. It just looks nicer when you do it yourself in EO. You can automap if you're a baby.

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>>84763950

SERIOUSLY THOUGH.
It updates at midnight tomorrow, right?

>>84768291
Nope, thursday evening.

>really want to get Devil Survivor OC off eShop because I've been craving a decent SRPG
>already too busy with Fantasy Life and Nocturne to warrant starting a third game
>also tempted to get SMT4 and Soul Hackers

Too many games for what little time I have. Soul Hackers and SMT4 I'll probably hold off til Christmas though, I'm sure I can find physical copies for pretty cheap for those. But $15 of Devil Survivor is so damn tempting even though I won't have time to play it for a few weeks.

I wish I had gotten into the SMT franchise years ago instead of just recently.

>>84769462
15 dollaroos is good price for Overclocked, but Atlus games prices get frequently slashed.

>>84769750
>inb4 this is the last time Atlus puts games on sale

>>84769462
>new to the series
>playing nocturne now
>instead of DeSu or Smt4

i guess that's your business. Nocturne is neat and all, but if that's your entry-point i kinda feel bad for you.
but you'll have a pretty balanced appreciation for what smt4 does wrong, and does right.
maybe it's for the best.

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>mfw I post here everyday making recommendations to people and the only atlus games I've completed are persona 3 and 4

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>>84770120
I started with Nocturne too, was pretty fun even if all my demons were dogshit since I didn't know anything beyond "buffs and debuffs, motherfucker". Still beat the game, fuck Dante tag though, easily my least favorite part of the game.

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>>84768529

Fingers crossed that ain't the case.

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>>84770390

Are there any must-have skills for Nocturne by the way, besides Fog Breath? Going phyiscal build with my hero, and just trying to figure out what all I should be focusing on. I'm just playing on Normal so I imagine it's not a huge issue if my skills aren't optimal.

>>84769750
Yeah that's true. I could probably wait a while and they'll be on sale again.

>>84770120
Technically P3P was my first, though I never finished it. I've also already played the first two mainline games. Also I saw people recommending starting with Nocturne for years before 4 came out.

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>>84770409

> Worst part of Nocturne.
> Not the Pyro Jack mini game.

>>84770724

Focus, to boss your physical damage.

Divine shot is a great single target physical attack that'll last you for a long time.

>>84770390
I'd recommend Nocturne to you. It's my personal favourite, just after P4.

>>84770950
At least there I wasn't chased by a dude in a game not built for any kind of action gameplay.

>>84770120
Nocturne was my starting point as well, never played any SMT or Persona games before it. It was fine and on normal not terribly hard.

>>84770950
But that's the best part of Nocturne!

http://youtu.be/IckRhKXfWxo

>>84770724
Focus, and Pierce if you're going for TDE.
Pierce can only be gotten after you finish all the kalpas so don't worry about it too much.

God damn it, I hate waiting for things I order online. I have to wait til Thursday to play Strange Journey.

>>84771193
Hard mode has so far been "50-50 the opponent goes: the game" alongside "Pretas will fuck your shit up because they always fucking crit:the game". Forneus wasn't shit compared to the fucking Pretas. At least the Demi-Fiend can 1-hit KO everything at this point thanks to12+2 STR at level 10.

>>84725280
>Piercy below Door-kun

>>84771393
At least you are going to play it soon, imagine the anons of yurop waiting for SMT 4 since release.

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http://strawpoll.me/2880227

There can only be one, and we must decide based on the most important factor.

>>84771193
>you're not the only person who said exactly that.

Nocturne is fine. i technically started out on p3p too, like>>84770724
but i just mean, now that smt4 is out, it's a bit better of a starting point.

but still if that anon can enjoy nocturne for whatever he can get out of it, he might have better expectations to judge the series as a whole.
>what do you want more of?
>what do you want less of?
>what kind of tedium/headaches are you able to endure?

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>>84773545
Ahriman, without a second thought.

>>84773849
His meditating stance looks so cozy, made me want to go Shijima right then and there.

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>>84773849
Kaneko's obscure and unused designs are so awesome.

>>84773849
Love that Angra Manyu design, would love to see it used in a mainline game.

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>>84770120
What's wrong with starting with Nocturne? After playing P3 about 2 years ago I went on to play Nocturne right afterwards just fine

>>84774448
nothing >>84773740

i just expected smt4 would be the token entry game by now

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> 26 hours remain.

>>84777231
Fuck Pretas and their crits.

Is it wrong that I always end up getting Law endings when I answer naturally?

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>>84777231
>Surprise Attack!
>Macca beam
>Macca beam
>Macca beam
I have no mouth but I must scream

>>84780026
Not really, it shows that you're just a good person in society.
I'm more neutral though.

>>84780026
>>84780301

> Tfw neutral for all but a single small part of SJ.
> Go Law for a tiny bit.
> Let Jack get ripped.
> Back to Neutral.

I sure am a boring dude.

>>84773545
Think we'll ever see Reasons, or other non-traditional alignments again?

>>84780942
Break Record.

25 hours to go

>>84781705
You mean 49 hours