/smtg/ Shin Megami Tensei General

>>78802371
Apparently this is what's on the signs.

>Bullying problem, a death in some kind of room, dangerous driving incidents, falsified evidence, tax raises, people going on rampages.

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elly is my waifu

>>78803495
Mary is garbage confirmed/

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>>78803495
I like you

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>not going with elly route on P2EP

>>78803718
>you will never get P1 with the true ending where elly and MC marry at the end

>>78803769
i like you too anon-kun

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>>78803718
look at this ugly bitch

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What's going on all a sudden? Why are there new threads every day now? I assumed it would be the most going on in summer.

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>>78804754
dont you like new thread anon?

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>>78805162

Its a party.

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>>78805350
its a double meat party

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why are lawfags jews except more brainwashed

>>78804442
More like look at what this ugly bitch caused Elly to do >>78804296
Her long hair was so much better.

Also, this probably feels too early to say, but looking at all the faggotry stemming from one teaser, I think I'm going to miss P4.

>>78769138
>Why do I like the SMT1 characters so much? They've hardly got any dialogue .

If you figure it out, let me know. 'cause I feel the same way.

>>78772361
>I don't think I could ever run out of MAG the way MT1 is giving it out right now.

have u even smt2

>>78806092
I think SMT2 is the only game where I've had MAG problems. The others were pretty lenient

>>78781497
>Can you guys remind me in which Daedalus floor is that stupid goblin disguised as a dragon?

Floor 3.

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Where the hell is this guy? I couldn't find him on twitter or any other social networking websites, and Wikipedia says the last thing he was involved with was SMT IV as "scenario original draft" which is pretty ambiguous. What's he doing? Even if it's not related to SMT, I'd love to follow this guy.

>>78785262
>that reminds me, I still need to play Hate Plus

I've still only played the first game they made, I'm lazy as fuck.

>>78806262
No one knows. He TECHNICALLY has a Twitter, but it was only used to promote some new SMT figures coming out a little while ago.

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Wow that trailer though. Really excited.

>mfw upon seeing tumblr's and /pg/'s reactions

>>78792020
>nah the prison is metaphorical, he's a prisoner of fashion and trends and ~his own mind~

Someone said the chains are broken on a chair now. I can't remember if they were before, and don't care enough to Google.

>>78806390
Not particularly excited yet, personally. Didn't have as much impact as SMTIV's teaser trailer, and showed even less to speculate on. Maybe I'll get in the hype train next trailer.

>>78805923
the few dialogue they have is genius and it leaves a lot up to your immagination

>>78806582
>he's a prisoner of fashion and trends and ~his own mind~
I can't believe they'd reharsh persona 4 themes though. That's what it was about, right? Y'know, at the very beginning... now it seems like the message has been kind of lost

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>>78805756
Elly still looks fabulous though

Am I the only Anon here who wants Nyarly and Phil to come back into the series?

I mean, come on. Nyarly is the most successful villain in the entire SMT franchise, rivaling Lucy.
He corrupted Jun
He killed Maya ;_;
He manipulated Kandori in P1 to set in motion the whole plot of the game
He screws with Kandori AGAIN in P2:EP
He ANNIHILATES ALL LIFE ON EARTH COMPLETELY thanks to Xibalba and rumor power in P2:IS
He ruins Tatsuya's life by killing Maya, carries over to P2:EP
HE WINS. HE ACTUALLY WINS IN P2:IS
He accomplishes everything he sets out to do from the start. Hell, when you try to foil his plans to blow up buildings, to bring about the Temples when Xibalba rises, they STILL blow up anyway!
He has backup plan on top of backup plan.
And he's a Final Boss. 6 TIMES!
1: Kandori's Persona in P1. Using Kandori as a proxy.
2: Is Jun's Joker Persona in IS, again as a proxy.
3: You fight him as Hitler in IS
4: You fight him as Great Father in IS
5: You fight him as Moon Howler in EP
6: You fight him as Crawling Chaos in EP

I know this may all seem much, but still. What do you guys think?

>>78806874
>And he's a Final Boss. 6 TIMES!
I do like Nyarly but seriously, that's more than enough.
I'm secretly hoping the new P5 antagonist to be just as... competent though

>>78806229
SMT2 MAG is making me play KMT1 weird. I'm barely summoning, because I'm blitz kreiging my way through and keeping Charon's pockets full.

>>78806363
I added his account this week, and it added me back.

>>78806728
Do you think if the dialogue in P1 was "forced", people would like it more?

>>78807245
Yeah, I was dying a ton too until I realized I had a bunch of MAG.

That blue flame at the end of the P5 trailer reminds me of PQ Zeus.
I hope it's not the case.

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Hello, everyone. This is the Persona Team’s Hashino.
While it was sudden, during the conference that was held by SCE earlier today, they showed a trailer for the Persona series’ latest main numbered title, Persona 5. The setting is reversed from the previous title, as the title will depict the lives of youths living in a setting of a big city.
I apologize for only being able to show so little, but it would make me happy to know that you all have been able to get a glimpse of the game’s atmosphere.
Persona 5 was announced last year, and in addition to the release for PlayStation 3, we’re currently developing a PlayStation 4 version to release simultaneously in 2015. Furthermore, it’s very regretful that we’ll keep you guys waiting (I’m sorry ; ;), but I believe we’ll have a great game that will remain in your hearts.
While this may seem presumptuous to mention in the midst of all the high expectations, I am in charge of the direction of the game, following Persona 3 and Persona 4. Also returning is character designer [Shigenori Soejima] who worked on the previous title, and [Shoji Meguro] in charge of music, and together with trusted and reliable staff members, we’re pushing forward and working hard.

I'm playing P4G for first time. Should I levelup all the characters? I'm having a hard time in some dungeons.

>>78807427
Personally speaking, after directing Catherine, I was supposed to prepare for making titles on HD consoles… but that’s a story from a very long time ago. Since then, we’ve worked together with the team staff on developing various titles, and each one has exceeded my expectations.
Not only in terms of games, but they’ve also reached TV anime series, stage plays, live concerts, and even a theatrical anime film. Honestly, the only thing I’ve planned and produced outside of video games is Persona Stalker Club that is currently going on over at Nico Nico Douga.
In addition to the folks at Aniplex who’ve produced our anime, we are very fortunate to have so many projects and support, and I’m truly grateful. I believe that it is a result from all the support from the fans. Thank you very much.
Again, I’d like to take this opportunity to express my gratitude to the Atlus fans who’ve been supporting us since the past. As you may know, the current series saw a change in production staff back in Persona 3, from visuals, music, to a new view of the world.
In those days, there was a great deal of uncertainty, and even with all the pros and cons, we were blessed with many fans who’ve continued enjoying and supporting us, since the early days to the latest titles. On behalf of the development staff, I’d like to thank you all from the bottom of my heart.
I hope that we’ll have something that will bring you all plenty of joy, and I also hope you all look forward to its completion. Thank you for your continued support!
Persona 5 Director & Producer

Katsura Hashino

>http://www.siliconera.com/2014/09/01/persona-5-director-hashino-another-message-fans/

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>>78807519
Japs sure like apologizing about nothing

>>78807483
You don't need to levelup characters you're not going to use.

>>78806859
It's true.

>>78807332
The thing is, I don't wanna pay the healer for revivals. Hopefully this will all change when I get further.

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>>78805695

Take a wild guess.

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>People actually like the gayass bedhead bitchboy Yasuda reject protag for P5

>>78808589
It's Sho with black hair, or a girl.

>>78807483

If you want to do the optional bosses and shit you'll have time to level them, if you choose. It's not necessary by any means, they'll never make you bring anyone or take half your party from you or anything like that.

>>78808589
Is that pic for real? Like, seriously? That's just Al with boobs.

>>78808589
>not wanting to fuck the megane protag
What are you, gay?

>>78809015
Yes, it's from the DRRR LNs.

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>>78807739

>>78806363
What's its name?

>>78809074
No, I am not a gay.

>>78806363
If Kaneko doesn't follow you on Twitter you don't know SHIT about megaten

>>78807326
Nah, but P1 couldve had more dialogue imo, p2 did npc dialogue right

Persona 5 looks like it's just going to be Persona 3 again

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What seiyuu would you like to see on P5 voicing a party member?
Aoi Yuuki for me.
>>78810538
I would be alright with that so long as they polish the issues P3 had.

>>78809836
@aqmaAC

>>78811413
Thanks

w-what if p5 doesn't have randomly generated dungeons and the gameplay is actually good...?

>>78811637
We can only hope.

>>78811637
That's what the power of the PS4 is for, rendering more animu cutscenes and VA.

>>78811637
I want the game to be good but I don't have any reason to believe Hashino can direct a good game and not just mediocre visual novels with RPG minigames

IV in EU when

>>78810904
>What seiyuu would you like to see on P5 voicing a party member?
Kaori Mizuhashi

>>78811764
He was a game designer on Nocturne and DDS, so he's got that under his belt at least.

>>78812196
every day you ask, it gets pushed back.

doesnt the eshop update on set days?

>wake up
>see cute megane protag
My heart.

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>>78812390
>Nocturne
>DDS
There is hope yet!

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>>78812807
Imagine if there's a female megane protag. My dick would become an unbreakable diamond.

>>78813601
Dat FemRaidou pic. Saving it. Thanks.

You're not alone in wanting a female megane protag, fellow Anon. If they ever have one = instant waifu for me.

>>78813601
If Raidou were a girl wouldn't he have a red uniform like Kaya? Or was that a different school?

>>78807534

Tell me someone's got that shadow maya screenshot from Innocent Sin

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>>78812807
Such a cutie, I have high hopes for the designs of the party.

Allright, people. It's that time again.
Speculation on P5, given the (rather meager) info we have now.

How the hell is the MC gonna summon his Persona?
P1 = Invoking
P2 = Invoking
P3 = Evokers
P4 = Card crushing
P5 = ???
I know it's too early and too few info to speculate anything worthwhile, but damnit, I want to see your ideas on this.

Could it be somehow tied to the "enchaining" aspect of P5?
Like P4 was damaging the cards, representing "breaking lies", so P5 representing "breaking chains tying you down" = what sort of summoning method?

>>78814347
Invoking

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>>78814347
I imagine a chain's going to break in some form.

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>>78814110
Will this do?

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>>78813989
Is was a request on a /v/ drawthread. They request SMT related stuff quite frequently, and there was even an hexafusion between the SMT1, SMT2 and Nocturne protagonists, which sadly I didn't save.

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>>78814572
Damn. Would've been an insta-save.
But they have a drawthread on /v/? I'll have ot look into it later...

Thankfully someone drew me this pic of Cielo endorsing his own Cielo Mist soda drink a few days ago. Just as I imagined it, too!

>>78814347
Probably something to do with the phones. Note the totally-not-an-iPad adverts on the train and in the city.

>>78814739
>phones
>totally-not-an-iPad adverts
Sensing a DeSu2 connection here...

So far, we got 3 possible elements, that may or may not be tied to each other in the summoning method:

Invoking
Chain breaking
Phones

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>>78814692
I cannot even find it on the archive or the drawthread booru, geez.
A friend of mine drew the Aleph/Demi-fiend fusion, so I'll ask him later if he saved the finished piece.

>>78814513

I suppose. I was hoping for the "What's the most convenient phrase?" screenshot. Seems pretty relevant.

>>78811413
>144 tweets
>hasn't tweeted since September 19th 2013
Is... is he dead? ;-;

>>78812438
Yeah, thursdays

The logo and this red color schemes somehow reminds me of racing

>>78813989
SMT if... when

>>78817772
Yeah I think it was trying to look like Gran Turismo for some reason. Least that was my first thought.

>>78816651
That is not dead, which can eternal lie,
And with strange aeons, even death may die.

>>78817905
If...when you stop talking about it.

>>78817772
The red color scheme reminds me of Persona 2 Innocent Sin.

>>78817772
the new protagonist looks super generic
i mean fuck, they made flynn what? 2 years ago? how did they forget to make a protagonist that doesn't look super generic in that short a time?

>>78818054
But Flynn looked super generic too.

>>78818104
yea, but not this generic

>>78818304
You could say Tatsuya looked generic, too.

>>78818359
Which Tatsuya?
IS or EP design?

>>78818054
Completely different character designer and setting of the game.

>>78818359
new guy just doesn't even look like a protagonist
he looks like a minor social link from p3 or 4.

Gideon you fucking faggot just give us something playable

you said you had a 100% completed script two years ago

>>78818304
>>78818054
It's only "generic" because of the black hair. If you colored Yu and P3MC's hair black then they'd look generic as fuck too. Well, maybe not P3MC since he'd still look like an emo fag.

If they made his hair color something ridiculous like purple or dark green but kept the same design then I'm positive there'd be less "he looks so generic" going around

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>>78818503
Which game was Tatsuya the MC of?

>>78818535
Give us the script so the KMT guy can insert it

>>78818543
on the other hand we'd have "he looks super anime" if that's what the case, so... in the end there will always be complaints

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>>78818535
should've gone to pax fucker


>>78818505
soejima designed the characters for 4 bro

i really hope this fucker isn't a third fool

>Protag is Harry Pooter

>>78818775
He mentioned Flynn dumbass. SMT IV was done by Doi.

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>>78818775
No he didn't, Doi did.

>>78818775
>that fucking text spacing

holy shit gideon really outdid himself this time, I can't fucking wait to play this, especially after the retarded fucking text boxes from II

>>78818775
Doi designed IV's characters. Soejima wasn't involved in IV's development at all.

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>>78818797
>Tfw no Hierophant MC

>>78819027
Your shit taste in Jojo and husbandos is shocking.

>>78818880
have you guys even seen harry potter? it looks nothing like him

>>78819093
>Not liking Kakyoin

>>78818902
>>78819001

wow really? I always thought it was soejima but looking it up now, that was Doi's first time designing main characters by himself

pretty cool job for first time

>>78812196
We can expect some update on Tuesday

First P5 video is out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Y5U8n4Ie3I#t=38

PS3/PS4 releases.

Spoiler: No gameplay yet

>>78819093
>Husbandos
Stop, also you have shit jojo taste

>>78819027
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-i2NUSNCbhU

>>78819425
like where have you even been?

>>78819534
Under a rock

>>78818927
Technically it is possible to implement the same spacing (it's called VWF, Variable Width Font) in SMT2 using the same method as in if...
DDS did the same with Kyuuyaku.

>>78818927
You sure like to complain a lot over absolutely nothing, huh

>>78819912
go away gideon

Reminder that if you aren't hyped as fuck for if... then I don't know what you're doing, since there certainly isn't anything else SMT related coming out for a while

also its supposedly the best of all the snes SMT games but that's beside the point

>>78819912
I take smt very seriously

>>78818927
The PSX remakes translations will have it as well, just saying.

>>78819912
I'll be honest, text boxes are one of the biggest factors in me not playing SMTII. The first one is the turning speed. 2slow4me.

How come KMT doesn't use the improved HUD from II? The wiki states that the game came out after II, and SMT if... uses the grid too

so what gives?

>>78820318
its balanced out by the fact that the encounter rate is exponentially lower than it is in SMT I

Hot tip; if your emulator has the option to bind buttons for turbofire, create a binding for Y, and then hold it and A down and you'll advance through text automatically. Y is the best button to use for this since it advances text but doesn't select things like menu items and yes/no answers

fast forward is useful as well

>>78818535
he wants to do it for money not for fans

which is fine, but stop hoarding shit so other people dont do it you piece of shit...

>>78818927
kmt did it first

did gideon finish his build before dds gave away tools?

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>>78819119
NO FAGGOT, I READ HARRY POTTER

>>78819425
>P5 picture in OP
>still acting like this just happened

>>78818927
That's an old screenshot that someone just fullscreened and took a picture of. Gideon abandoned VWF in the current build of If... because it was too much hassle.

1) dangerous driving (in recent years, repeated cases of people killing others driving drunk, and recently this year for driving under new synthetic drugs)

2) something about being found hanging in their own(?) room (suicide)

3) a mass slashing incident (?????)—see the Akihabara attack of some years ago.

4) (somebody) ignoring bullying cases (a famous one of recent years had the victim jump off a parking garage… And then the school claimed there was no evidence of bullying that they knew of, but did not release the results of an investigation)

5) evidence falsification (followed by the “detective battle” I referenced before—but it could be the first part of struggle, so).

6) SALES TAX GOING UP?!! (this year, with another rise to follow if the economy can stand it—constant news stories on people not buying things recently)

7) RACING? Maybe.

Smaller headlines include adultery, and threatening phone calls to someone who won the lottery (and something about knowledge of medicine?)

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>>78813989
>Dat FemRaidou pic
Eh
Seen better

>>78822342
Yeah but is there anything about social links

>>78818543
Pretty much. I really don't understand why anyone would think P5 protag looks more generic than Yu, other than because Yu has Sephiroth hair.

>>78820270
they'll also have much shittier music, although I'd imagine the gameplay is 20x better, if soul hackers is anything to go off of

>>78822624
>Shittier music
Subjective as fuck, get better PSX emulation plugins.

>>78822624
Apparently auto battle is slow and useless, so get that fast forward button ready.

>>78822743
Can someone tell me what game we're talking about? Is the ps1 version of smt being translated suddenly?

>>78820009
>also its supposedly the best of all the snes SMT games
of course it is, it's the father of Persona

Streaming KMT again

http://www.hitbox.tv/nikoofdeath

>>78822880
not really what I was going for, according to Gideon the game's combat is much more balanced and rewarding

I don't know if it's as heavily equipment focused as the first two either, and even if it is, apparently we're finally getting item descriptions in the item screen

>>78816651
That account was made to market figures. He only appeared to tweet and answer question on specific dates and after they were out there was no point in scheduling him.

>>78822726
I've listened to the PS1 version OSTs, don't even try to pretend they improve on the snes originals.

>>78823282
Well I don't know about "more balanced" (though anything is more balanced than SMT1) but IF is kind of quirky/gimmicky in that every time your character dies they get a new guardian spirit (which works basically a persona)

So who's cuter? Flynn or Bushy?

>>78823492
They do, there's only like 2-3 tracks per game that I like more on SNES.

>>78823492
sega mega cd version for life

>>78824067
Gale

>>78824067
flynn is literall almost a woman
hell, he almost looks more feminine than most of the females in his own game

>>78824269
>gale
>cuter than heat

>>78824286
Flynn doesn't even look that girly outside of the haircut

>>78824386
Heat's never been the player protagonist.

>>78823080
pls watch

>>78824630
No.

>>78824519
neither has Gale, if anyone it was Sera who was the protagonist

>>78824741
But he was, and it was the best part of DDS2.

>>78824741
Gale was the protagonist for a while in DDS2
I know it because I stared at his ass a lot

>>78824870
>best part of DDS2
>not the Sun

>>78824870
>>78824924
there can't be THREE main characters guys

>>78825056
The Sun is like half the game, it can't be called a "part".

>>78825086
Protagonist =/= Main Character

And there totally can be.

>>78825086
It can when the previous main character DIES

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>>78802371
Digital Devil Saga soundtrack download links from the OP aren't working, Chrome's saying the link is stuck in a redirect loop

>>78825378
well technically speaking they're all protagonists
Cielo's a protagonist

What are you guys hoping for with Persona 5?

Hard mode: no indirect insults at Persona 3 or 4

>>78825481
But do you get to see his ass running? Checkmate atheists.

>>78825481
The six most important members of the embryon are part of the "main cast" come on guys don't make this difficult

>>78825580
axe damage

>>78825580
I'm hoping it's not a soulless cash-in at the expense of a rabid fanbase
hard mode failed

>>78820009
I haven't been in this general for a few months and after learning it's coming out just now along with SMT IV's Europe release also around the corner I am fucking hyped.

>>78825385
I think you're confusing "main character" with "active field leader"
You only stare at Gale's ass because he leads the party at the time, but he doesn't become main character

>>78825580
Okay writing not hamfisted into optional events with a retard 1-10 system as if character development actually worked that way.

>>78825950
For the love of God this

Is War Cry impossible to pass on to certain demons? I'm trying to get it on a Kushinada, but it either doesn't work or I'm getting obscenely unlucky. Talking about Nocturne here.

>>78825737
>>78825587
>>78825481
>>78825385
>>78825378
>>78825086
>>78824924
>>78824870
>>78824870
>>78824741
>>78824519
>>78825921
>>78825737

BOTTOM LINE:
Protagonist = Serph / Sera.
Main Cast = Serph / Sera / Heat / Argilla / Cielo / Gale / Roland.

>>78826410
Only demons with large mouths can use it.

>>78826541
Protagonist = Gale
Best Character = Gale

I'm glad we all agree.

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>>78826791
I comprehend.

>moving the Flying City of Bien
>Dat Mode 7

This is the future

>>78826882
mode 7 didn't exist on the famicom! NONCANON!

>>78826882
Was that mode7? It just looked like parallax scrolling to me.

>>78827192
It looked like the city scaled as it lifted. Either way fuck Ares and his necklace. I can't wait to be finished with this part.

>>78827192
There is definitely some scaling in there. Bien's captain has a balling ass theme.

>>78825580
Good, challenging dungeons
A challenge
Social Links that are not self-contained (things done in SLinks will affect things outside the Slink)
Nuclear damage

>>78825580
Sutble mention of Thorman/Gotou and/or Stephen.

>>78825580
Good dungeons is pretty much the only thing I want.

Bonus if the MC can use any weapon again like P3MC

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I want to fuck Mirai

>>78825580
Good dungeons.

>>78824630
I'm trying but it says I need flash player and I'm on Android at the moment. Sorry m8

>>78825580
good dungeons, more of a unique feel like persona 1 and 2 had. i still love the shit out of p3 and p4, but i just don't really want anything else like them.

>>78825587
Gale did have a great ass.

>>78829332
>>78825587

Yet you ignore Argilla's.

;_;

>>78829809
The only asses worth remembering are Serph's, Gale's, and Jinana's.

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>>78829809
She has a dress and not a uniform that explicitly highlights her ass. I also don't like girls.

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>>78830014

>>78829982
Was serph even a girl

Are people working on P2EPP? I can't remember if I actually heard that or if it was something I dreamed up.

How's that demon summoning app going?

Also, will a modern SMT ever have an actual battle with YHVH ever again?

>>78830937
almost ready for a 2011 release

Hohoh, Sega is publishing P4A2 in Europe. That means that PROBABLY we won't have to wait an eternity, and maybe we'll get additional localizations...

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>>78831285
>Also, will a modern SMT ever have an actual battle with YHVH ever again?
Neverever

Especially if they keep mainline on Nintendo

>>78831636

Didn't someone say they were going to insert the PS1 script with a few changes like making the P1 character's names their real ones?

So what exactly went down in Tatsuya's EPP scenario?

>>78832048
see
>Misc. Translations
http://pastebin.com/LHKVLNQB

>>78832048
You can get summaries on the translations pastebin.

>>78831835
That's lame as fuck.Part of what I love about mainline is the major focus on the Abrahamic mythology. I guess they'd probably not have as much issue with stuff like DDS that focuses on a different religion?

How big of a difference do you guys think there will be between the PS3 and PS4 versions?

>>78832425
The PS4 version will be in 1080p

Probably nothing else.

Do prerendered cutscenes display in 1080p on PS3?

>>78832425
Very little. Probably just resolution, maybe AA. Atlus is too lazy to do anything too big, really.

>>78832421
I think Nintendo would have an easier time telling indie folks to fuck off rather than Atlus. Smt is actually kind of a big thing in 3ds right now thanks to 4

>>78832425
probably resolution and antialiasing

maybe framerate

the ps4 version is most likely going to be the better looking and playing of the two, obviously

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>>78815235
sorry for taking so long to reply

>>78833612
you know, maya never faced her shadow in IS

in fact, she actively rejected it

>>78833885
It wasn't a real shadow, IIRC. Kinda like the ones in P4A

>>78834746
It was made from the rumors that they were terrorists, right?

>>78832556
>Atlus is too lazy to do anything too big, really.

Not to mention it will be one of (or the?) first game they do for it.

>>78834746
Yeah I know but everyone else accepted theirs.

>>78834746
When the world shapes you to what you are via their perceptions and rumors, what is the difference between a real shadow or a fake one?

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not P5 hype related but

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evv-W19sMQE

>>78831825
I'm calling him Nacho from now on, because he's not sho.

>>78836646
I like you

>>78836646
Wow, very punny.
By any chance is your name Shuji Ikutski?

>>78837045
Nope, it's Shoji Ikutsukanji :^)

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>>78837045
Nope, it's not. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

>>78837260
Don't pretend to be me while using that emoticon please. I'm a little autistic about that.

>>78837483
We're all you, and you are us.

>>78836154
smt1 is always top tier hype

>>78836154
Did you draw that?

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>>78839042
Yeah. I did the lineart a while back for the 69min twitter prompt and then relined and coloured it earlier.

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>>78839495
Thank you anon, it looks nice.

So is the Dark Hour back? Or something along those lines?
I don't really like the supposedly main character.

>>78839495
Nice work!

>>78840031
>I don't really like the supposedly main character.
but he's flynn tier cute.

>>78840031
Just because everyone was frozen in place doesn't mean Dark Hour. Especially because, well, it wasn't midnight

>>78840031
>not liking Sakamoto Desu Ga

>>78840196
cockroaches aren't cute

>>78840031
I like his design, you don't see protags with glasses often. His color palette seems a little dull but that's probably intended.

>>78840196
He looks soulless.
>>78840238
>Or something along those lines
I guess I really shouldn't expect any serious speculation from just that, anyway.
>speculation
>serious
>>78840345
Sakamoto has something this guy doesn't.

>>78802371
Does Zahlzeit even frequent these threads? I'm thinking of updating some of the pastebins. Especially the Tips and Tricks one. I come here everyday so I could keep them updated.

Anyone have any suggestions on what to add for the Tips and Tricks pastebin? Some of the games only have 1 or 2 things.

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>>78840471
I don't think "soulless" is a valid criticism towards someone who's supposed to be a blank slate.

>>78840379
I never got the cockroach thing.

>>78840459
>you don't see protags with glasses often
Literally every P4 character.
He doesn't look bad, just a little boring. Kind of like Yu.

>>78840750
He doesn't visit them as often as he used to. Like every couple months or so.

>>78840985
P4 characters didn't need them to see, nor did they wear them permanently.

>>78840926
>Persona The Movie

What happened to the second OVA?

>>78841364
What OVA? P3 is getting 3 movies.

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>playing Megami Tensei

"I can't believe I have to search Daedalus all over again until I find that DAMN shield for this teenager gatekeeper to let me pass. Well, I think having the Elevator open will save me some time at least. *sigh*

>takes elevator
>about 4 unexplored blocks

"Wait...what is th- RANDOM BATTLE"

>flying orange-colored Hog whose sprite keeps flipping (literally) all over the place and is called BUG
>had dispacthed all my minions minus one to save my MAG, oh i'm screwed
>turns out I wasn't, he couldn't dish good damage and Zanma destroyed him when I found out
>defeats him, checks his stats: INT SPD = 8 STR LCK = 5, VIT = TWENTY TWO
>you find old weapons strewn all over the ground.......YOU FIND GAR'S SHIELD!
>mfw I find what I was searching for without even trying

I LIKE THIS GAME EVEN MORE

What would be a neutral world after the ending be like? Like,it's a world forgotten by God and without the demon's power.
Also,captcha:Lucy

>>78842234
Just the normal world.
But then Law and Chaos would come fuck shit up again.

>>78842234
the same as the beginning of the game
shitty, but not as shitty as the other possibilities

>>78842234
I think it would ideally have the MC and Heroine and everyone else trying to create a world where nobody seeks power from demons.

Or at least preparing countermeasures for the next time somebody lets demons out.

>>78842410
Would people even go to heaven after their death?

>>78842201
bug is hella rad

im going to bed, but im sure another anon can tell you about him in mt1 nes

>>78842410
>But then Law and Chaos would come fuck shit up again because that's what humans want.
Fixed for truth.

>>78842707
Neutral is eternal reincarnation. That's why they try to make the mortal world the best place it can be.

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Euros, I got some bad news.

This is Atlus mobile site

>>78842827
And fail in the end.

>>78806262
Why don't you ask 2ch?Why nobody did this before?

>>78842849
What's the bad news there?

>>78842849
Fuck.

>>78842849
At least it's cheap for you guys.

At least I think that's cheap, I know lots of publishers just change the $ to € and call it a day.

>>78842849
It says available in Europe in November, not Septemeber

>>78842849
WINTER 2013 IS REAL

>>78842827
What?Eternal reincarnation? When did anyone said that?

>>78842965
But it never ends. They just keep trying, dying, reincarnating, and trying again until they get it right.

Why do you think the Hero and Heroine of SMT1 are actually Adam and Eve.

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>>78842849
Well fuck me if that's true. At least it's not as bad as Overclocked being broken for months until we Yuropeons finally got our patch

>>78843414
Because you can't always reincarnate as plants and animals.

Or Rocks, if the fact they have magnetite means anything.

>>78843414
It's the reincarnation of civilizations that seek their own self-destruction.

That's it. Even the Mothers and Three Wise Men understand that.

Mankind doesn't want to get it right, they just want to destroy themselves.

>>78843338
It's in Buddhism. Well, certain flavors of it, at least.

>>78843414
>>78843609
Ok,wait,what? No one never said anything about reincarnation,mastema in Sj tells you that you should enjoy life while you're alive in neutral route and the angels tell you that you're going to hell after you die.

>>78842849
i told you faggots to stop asking

>>78842849
Geez, this sucks.
But at least it's not DeSu2 3 years later.

>>78844001
The Three Wise Men outright mention the reincarnation of foolish cultures that destroy themselves.

Although the creatures that came before weren't human, they allowed their decadence to destroy themselves.

Is there a gimmick to beating Loki in KMT?

I'm at level 29, I've been running around the mess that is valhalla for hours (was I supposed to go to biel first? I got the shield)

now I'm fighting loki and I can only do 3 damage even with 4 tarukajas. What gives?

>>78844473
Biel first

>>78842849
Rused me good anon

>>78844742
http://www.atlus.com/smt4/mob/

>>78844726
fuck I guess thats why everything has been busting my balls so hard

side note, how come everything I try to fuse ends up as fairy dryad? is that the equivalent to slime in this game? and if so why does it happen for with 90% of the species matchups?

If you reincarnate forever in neutral and you probably go to hell in chaos law if by far the best option.

Maaaan, Space Marine should have been the ultimate boss in SMTIV.

>>78844880
That's pure bullshit at this point.

>>78844970
Yeah I guess that is just like the garbage demon.

Around levlel 27 you should start getting bad asses

>>78845382
But in SMT, heaven is way worse than hell. You lose your brain and just become like the angels in Purgatory in SMTIV who can't hear anything that God doesn't say. Hell meanwhile is just a place ruled by demons that happens to have a lot of fire.

I'd say living forever beats both of those though.

>>78845514
They don't have all the fancy tech they had in the game since they left it behind. Besides, he wouldn't have any way to go to that world.

Since Asherah is not Asura, which she mentions she can only take her true form in Sector Fornax due to being demonized, IV and SJ are alternate worlds.

>>78845609
I always thought hell was just false hope. What chance do you have of being king of chaos for a long time? You will get overthrown and be a mindless follower, of whoever takes power or get eaten, tortured, or whatever.

>>78842849
Good thing I have Gateway.
Fuck Atlus.

>>78845750
I don't give a damn nigga. I just wanted to fight Space Marine.

>>78845609
No Angels are just programmed that way.

Though if Nocturne's game over screen is anything to go by, demons can also go to Heaven.

>>78844880
dafuq

>>78845609
No it's not,angels have their own opinion,have you ever played any megaten ever? Even the seraphims screw up sometimes,and in P1 you can seduce angels,some angels doubt what they are doing.
Also,captcha?Laws

I just got SJ the other day, and noticed stats level up randomly. The aptitude test determined me to be an 'attack support'. What exactly does that mean? I wanna be a gun-toting doomguy proper, dont I need agility for that?

When will the benefit of being owned by Sega actually show? Sega has the experience and man power to release games in Euroland day and date with the rest of the world. When will Atlus start using that power?

>>78846049
Yeah the being mindless robots is just in SMTIV.

>>78845609
Isn't heaven described in the bible as basically just sitting around and worshipping God all day?

>>78846207
Yup,exactly.

>>78839817
For the love of god, please more SMT I art, I do not have enough SMT I art

>>78846134
Sega is publishing P4U in Europe, apparently.

http://www.pegi.info/en/index/global_id/505/?searchString=40321&agecategories=&genre=&organisations=&platforms=&countries=&submit=Search#searchresults

>>78846349
so which is closer to an angel's "true" nature: the SMTIV depiction or the depiction elsewhere?

>>78846272
No it's not bro,it's living with your loved ones in a fair and peaceful world,it's literally perfect.

>>78846518
You're supposed to put spaces after your commas.

>>78846482
Let's see.

Other other games: Have their own thoughts and can do more than parrot the same words over and over.
SMTIV which is one game in the franchise: Parrots.

Which do you think it is?

With all this hacking going on, I wonder where it will stop. Maybe someone will hack into Hell and make a demon summoning program.

>>78846482
Everywhere else,if you think that Lucifer and his bros where free enough to rebel against God,Azazel literally was sent to hell because he had sex with human females,and mastema asked God to keep demons so he could test a human's faith with it.

>>78846651
so maybe those other angels aren't as close to god or some shit

>no butterfly in P5 teaser
Philemon is kill

So in conclusion, LAW IS SUPERIOR.

>>78846082
Attack support means that you have greater chance of getting St points. In the end, the difference between all of them is quite little, but Attack Support makes you more of an attacker: all skills the main character can acquire are based off of St, even the elemental ones.
Agility only affects turn order and dodge rate, I think.

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>>78846763
Nah clearly the twist will be a black butterfly. The symbol of Nyarly.

>>78844970

MT1's fusion works differently than other games.
Each class of demon has 1 to 3 tiers, and each class is arranged in a hierarchy.
Fusing Dryad will move the demon up one tier or one class, and give you the first demon in that list.
But because of the tier arrangement, going up a class may have you end up with a weaker demon.
It's mostly useful for fusing to Good demons.

>>78846752
>so maybe those other angels aren't as close to god or some shit
The damn seraphims have their own toughts, and that's as close to God as you can get.

>>78846763
Philemon's new symbol is a stock car.

>>78846609
I thought I was the only one being bothered by this.

>>78847089
do they? or are they just slightly more verbose in what they can parrot?

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>>78846926
That's hilarious, son of man.

>>78847035
That was already in Arena.

>>78847035
Nyarly isn't coming back.

>>78847187
Or maybe there's a flaw in their programming.

>>78847187
They do,when YHVH isn't aroud they do their own stuff,they do what they feel like doing.

>>78847068
but why do all fusion pathways lead to the fucking dryad?

are you saying I can use Dryads the same way as elements in the later games and move the demons up one "tier" withing their species?

>yfw Persona 5 will keep using NINE/Nocturne's 3D models

>>78847301
No that's Kagutsuchi. And Shadow Aigis crushes the black butterfly seen, as if mocking the idea that's it Nyarly.

>>78847650
>people will defend it

>>78847650
>Still no games we can play with 3D models of Nyarly and Frost Ace
>Only in Japan

>>78847650
I will have no specific face for it, because it's a given.

>>78847650
They've already been using them for over 10 years, why stop now?

>>78847650
If it's like P3/4 they'll only show up for a couple seconds during summoning and the artwork will be used in menus anyway.

>>78847650
>Persona 5 uses 2D sprites like SMTIV

P5 MC looks like Hibiki from Devil Survivor 2.

>>78848769
It's called having generic anime hair.

>>78848769
I don't see it.

>>78847573

I used this old Japanese page to figure out fusions.

http://ifs.nog.cc/fool-est.hp.infoseek.co.jp/kyuyaku/data/mix.html

Basically, Good is best fused with Good, because Good with most Neutral demons will just give you Dryad.
Dryad is the "W" column there.
It's not quite one-to-one for moving up, but you could eventually get Ganesha or Odin if you just fused nothing but Dryad.

>>78848895
Not him, but it's just the fact that they both have black and kinda unkempt hair.

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Atlus pls put me out of my misery

Man,i feel like my eyes are gonna start bleeding when i read youtube comments, read the comments of this video guys:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Y5U8n4Ie3I&list=UUDKOsemhPLrK4JnsZqkxHLA

>>78849369
They already are, you're the one who needs to stop bringing it up.

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>Wastrel Beam

I-it's all over, isn't it? SMT 4 is just a big cruel joke and the game doesn't even exist in the first place. It's a social experiment involving the whole world except Europe.

Just beat Shiva and Vishu in DDS2. Can I fight Seth on my first playthrough?

>>78849423
>read first comment
>it's about how lightning returns is a better game than anything
i closed the tab after that
this kills the hype

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>>78850336

>>78850765
fuck, i meant persona

>>78850336
SMTIV is very real. Do you want to borrow my 3DS?

>>78850336
delete it!

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>>78850336
sadly, no

>>78850363
He might be hard mode only, but yes.

>>78851168
fuck, i can't believe i actually saved the thumbnail of that

What's with the people who can't capitalize "I" lately?

>>78851295
Fuck hard mode only??? Damnit

>>78851464
Why would i capitalize L !

>>78851464
its the internet who cares about punctuation
alright i admit its cuz im high as hell and cant be bothered

>>78849598
I feel your pain, bruddah. - Cielo

>>78850363
Seth is in that door on the right, in the hallway on your way to the Shiva/Vishnu/Meganada cross-shaped section.
Here: "Sethy is found past a previously locked door on the fifth layer. Go to the last
Large Karma Terminal and move on backwards until you find it. There are
some traps (you'll see) but nothing you can't handle at this point (you should
be mid-80s or higher.)"
From: http://www.gamefaqs.com/ps2/924460-shin-megami-tensei-digital-devil-saga-2/faqs/44308