/indie/ - Indie and Misc. Games General

>>189138223
Does this spider have anything to do with /indie/ games at all?

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Naramura keep teasing La-Mulana 2
Just finish it and give us the game already!

>>189138684
>he doesn't know about Empire of the Undergrowth
Ew.

>>189138840
didn't the head dev get fucking hospitalized

>>189139120
Laziness is not a sickness.

>When your best characters with rare trinkets and who are upgraded all have a heart attack and die on the same turn Vs Necromancer.

This game is truly a piece of shit. Where is the fun in grinding the same "clear 90% of X" over and over just to be raped again

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>>189140723
>dying to necromancer

>>189140723
It's amazingly rotten. I can't understand how people remain infatuated with it after ~10 hours of it.

>>189140723
The only fun is being able to be all smug about it afterward.
>"Haha, you died to Necromancer? The hag is where the tears start rolling."

>>189140723
>Necromancer
I bet it's not even champ Necromancer.

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>>189140723
Everyday.

>wiping against ANY boss before the Darkest Dungeon

Please play Stardew Valley.

>>189140236
no like actually hospitalized, right before the last big game con thing they had

>>189142718
Good advice. Stardew Valley is the better game out of those two.

>>189140723
>dying to easiest boss
Surely you won't show us your party, skills and trinkets, scrub.

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>>189142564
His new review is a lot more messy and mostly cries about SHILLS SHILLS SHILLS. To me that seems actually abusive, unlike this which seems to be (relatively) more about the failings of the game...

Kinda funny that it turned out that way.

>>189142798
>>189142718
lmao

/indie/ is lovely sometimes

>>189142806
I can't remember the gear exactly but I was PDoctor/GRobber/Crusader/Leper.

Every healer I take eventually just heart attacks and I was having a lot of success with this setup. Only put Robber in since my Hound master died. It seemed like a semi decent team since Necromancer looks like he needs to be killed by dots rather than brute force. I even camped in the room before his but still got rekt

>>189143048
Dude, the only thing you need to do against him is just hitting stuff. Like, that's it, punch his skeleton buddies and he's fucked. How do you deal with the Brigand Pounder if you can't even beat the Necromancer?

>>189142996
t. DD dev

>>189143048
>Necromancer looks like he needs to be killed by dots rather than brute force
Nah, the only thing that makes stuff need to die by dots instead of regular hits is protection. Necromancer ain't got none of that. The only real trick is being able to deal with the shit he summons while still getting him down, and that's just 'are you punching enough'. It sounds like you're taking an awful lot of stress damage, though. Are you targeting stressers in fights? It's easier to heal health than stress most of the time.

>>189143048
>killed by dots rather than brute force
Are you retarded?
You had 2 characters that attack 1-2 position and necro summon help and moving to 3-4, i bet you haven't used GR to stun necro and let crusader to use holy lance.
You couldn't kill him because only GR was able to deal damage to him, dots are not for this fight.
Easiest way to beat necro is to burst him or even bring stunner.
GIT GUD

>>189143048
Not having a healer against bosses unless you know exactly what you're doing is asking for trouble, healers are not weaker to stress than anyone else. Get used to using Arabman and the Vestal.

What are some games.

>>189143421
turban-wearing arabman of many 0

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>>189143408
>Are you retarded?

>>189143529
0+bleed to your death's door hero is the spice of life.Seriously though, his damage debuff is one of the strongest boss trivializer in the game.

>>189143675
it doesn't really work on flesh, does it? only targets one of the parts

>>189143625
Bringing shits who can attack only 1-2 positions to shufling boss is retarded.

>>189143625
I mean, it's pretty retarded.

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https://selfish-dream.itch.io/hollow

Goodbye for now.
See you in a year or so!

>>189143753
Well yeah, you don't bring him to every boss there is.

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>>189143625
>when you only address an ad hom and ignore the rest of the counterarguments provided in the post because you can't refute them

>>189143421
Never tried arabman, he looked like a weak mix of healing/damage. Any recommendations for a good team comp? Also is jester actually useful with his buffs?

>>189143932
Does it look as bad in the game as the screenshots? Because the screenshots look like photoshop threw up on them.

>>189144884
Jester used to be able to delete one enemy in most encounters, with a frontline Finale start. He was nerfed and most of his buffs are pretty eh, his main use is now a stress healer. Not bad, but not quite the nuke he used to be. Haven't used him (nor play DD) since I last cleared the Courtyard when it was first released, so I don't know what team comp would fit him now. I used to pair him with a Highwayman because a Finale to Point-blank Shot wrecks bitches real hard.

Arabman can cause your enemy to have like a 120% damage debuff stack, this absolutely demolishes the Swine God boss and some others. He also deals nice damage to Eldritch enemies. His heal is wonky as hell, so don't rely on it to save you when shit's going south but it's still a nice thing to have.

>>189144884
In terms of healing throughput he's actually basically the best in the game. Wyrd Reconstruction is strong as hell. The range and chance to bleed means he's a little less reliable than a healer vestal, though. His damage is mediocre aside from eldritch artillery which is solid against backlines. Really, most of his value is in the heal, his debuffs, and his pull.

>Yeah, it (Sprint) should be modified in some way so that it doesn't have a cooldown out of combat. I understand why it does in combat--it offers too much mobility for just one feat--but out of combat it just makes exploring sooo tedious.

That... doesn't even sound like such a terrible suggestion. Fast, not speedhacked speed already has a downside, you are more likely to step on traps before you could detect them. If tabis can give constant speed boost, out of combat Sprint doesn't sound all that unreasonable. Maybe it could force activate for you when you enter combat so you start with the cooldown ticking if you were using it already.

Although it would make dodging patrols and cameras way too easy for what is just a 6 AGI feat. Improved Sprint for 10 AGI? Veteran Sprint specialization might come a bit too late in the game.

>>189138840
Cheru on Steam confirmed the game is coming out next year as Naramura-san's illness pushed the release window. I've been trying to keep my hype down and enjoy other games, but Naramura-san definitely loves to tease me.

>>189145936
Bad idea from a game design perspective. If it has no cooldown, it should just be a passive ability - or better yet, a toggle. But in either case, "Sprint" is not the correct moniker for it.

And it's probably impossible from game mechanics perspective. As far as I can tell there is no distinction between effects in RT and TB modes. Everything is real-time on a base level, turn-based mode simply clumps the real times into discrete units of 5 seconds aka turns.

>>189147487
You can constantly sprint in controlled zones only for example.

>>189147487
Your first argument is pointless pedantry and your second argument is plain wrong.

>>189147487
>As far as I can tell there is no distinction between effects in RT and TB modes
isn't there a bug where using a multi-shot ability in real time mode will start combat and only fire one shot?

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Son of a bitch is murdering my flock again.
Also, not sure how fences work. Build three of them, it's only some kind of fondation.

And, damn, I never understood how much I hated the sound effect for when you eat something. It sounds like the character is biting an apple. Doesn't make sense when 95% of the stuff I eat is cooked meat.

>>189147769
Yeah, the first hit causes hostility which forces you into turn-based mode and the current action (firing that burst) simply gets stopped when the mode changes.

>>189147741
It may be pedantic, but that doesn't change or devalue the point.

How is the second one plain wrong?

>>189147487
Maybe not RT and TB, but the game does make a difference between combat and non-combat. If it can disable certain actions in combat I doubt slapping a cooldown on something for the same purpose would be technically impossible.

A name is just a name, that can change if needed. It could be called Marathon Runner for all I care, that's not really the point.

That being said I don't personally have a problem with speed. But as far as solutions go a feat, whether Sprint or something else, that boost RT speed is a reasonable suggestion. Sprint is just a good candidate for it since it already does that, and can't be used to sanic stealth.

>>189147938
You know, it's a good thing ARK isn't realistic.
>build my house out of wood, with a thatch roof
>put a campfire and a cooking pot inside
That shit would really easily catch on fire, and since there are no windows, smoke would kill me as well.

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Steam code

>>189149005
What for?

>>189149005
Already used. Someone already grabbed it without even a thank.

People are so rude.

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>>189138840
Yet another pic, the third in a week. Naramura-san is going all out.

>>189149086
It was Citizens of Earth. Not a big deal but whatever.

>>189149414
Eeeh, that's okay, I don't know if it woulda been my kind of game anyway.
But the fact that someone grabbed it is still pretty rude.

should i just kill wolfman? i feel like he is a double nigger who is gonna joo me

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>modded best in between raiders and my base

It's just like Ubisoft's popular Far Cry series!

>>189149537
Wolfman is very loyal unless you betray him.

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Talking about Underrail, it's disheartening how the easiest of mutagen puzzles deliver awful pains to some.
http://steamcommunity.com/app/250520/discussions/0/1485482132156855838/
Echo-1, Io-1, Helicon-1, Ovid-1, Echo-4, Ovid-1, Io-2

How do we improve the IQ of gamers to the point where they can enjoy puzzles and get the satisfaction of solving them?

>>189149518
Maybe the guy that grabbed it thought it was a better game and got mad. I agree it's still pretty rude.

>>189149895
It's not about IQ, it's about logic.
I remember being stuck on Arkham Asylum's very first puzzle (the one with the sharp painting), but once I understood how I was supposed to answer, it became really easy.

>>189149895
Dunno, but I had good fun solving that guy's puzzle. Not that I'd every post on Steam to tell him that, so nice of Styg to help him out though.

>>189149640
eeh, i dont trust him but sure. trader is a good guy tho

can anyone rip the music out of the files? it is really good

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>>189150035
>It's not about IQ, it's about logic.

>>189150035
B-but IQ only measures logical thinking, not so much other areas of intelligence. I hope you still got the point.

>>189150092
Oh shit, Styg replied to him? Didn't see that before I posted the link. Nice!

>>189150309
>IQ only measures logical thinking
It does? I thought it measured how quickly your learned and adapted, stuff like that.

>>189149537
He is problem already, if you have been to his hideout you could notice, he breeding dogs and then makes huge dogs out of them. Maybe he wants to create something like himself, anyway woods are fucked up already and Wolfman only makes it worse.
Let alone his hobby, making trophies out of humans.

Your only true friend is Trader, sadly he can't be saved.

>>189148837
Just build a separate stone cookhouse outside like the hundreds of civilizations before

>>189150397
I would probably to relocate entirely. I settled down on the beach, and ressources are slowly running out.

>>189150481
Worth it for the comfiness alone
Cant see the stars at night deep in the jungle

>>189150348
I'm not an expert on the various types of intelligence and the terminology, but I meant IQ measures logical problem solving prowess rather than social intelligence or any other kind of intelligence. Things like that puzzle.

>>189150660
If I take down all the trees around me, I will.
I have a fondness for wood, since it respawn. A bit bummed I don't fully understand how respawn works in ARK.

>>189150872
So my bad. It's really intelligence then.

Not that it means much, I'm supposely at 143 and I still miss obvious social clues.

>>189150309
>>189150348
I wish I remembered whether logic is a component of g factor or s factor intelligence

>>189151006
At least you're modest enough to keep it to yourse-oh wait.

>>189151283
Just saying it doesn't mean much.

>>189151334
Uh huh.

>>189151006
I once tried to do an IQ test but got bored after four pages and left. Hmm.

>>189151729
Instant Internet Diagnosis: you have ADHD.

>>189151894
And autism, ASPD, at least 7 other mental illnesses, hypochondriasis, and who knows what else. Thanks, internet diagnosis!

>>189152129
You're welcome!

>>189152129
And AIDS.

>>189152218
Are you implying I have a sex life?

>>189151334
It also doesn't mean much if we don't know what test. Even if we did it wouldn't mean that much unless you had cognitive ability assessed through factorial analysis

>>189152405
I'm saying your hand cheated on you.

>>189153092
True. Pick your test, you pick your result.

>>189151894
Any indie games that benefit from aderall besides the usual suspects like NeoTokyo

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>>189153241
Aurora, the ultimate in 4X autism.

I need a game that takes away the pain of knowing that literally none of your """Friends""" give even a single shit about you and would just as easily forget about you as breathe.
Suggestions?

>>189155040
All Of Our Friends Are Dead.

https://amon26.itch.io/aoofad
It's free.

>>189155040
Russian Roulette
Mario Party
Golf It
Secret Hitler on Tabletop Simulator
Stardew Valley, it's slow and relaxing. A pretty good one if you just want to wind down.

>>189155634
>Russian Roulette
Is that an actual indie game or are you just telling anon to go shoot himself?

>>189155914
I mean, the thrill/terror at the possibility of shooting yourself will surely make you forget about a lot of things.

>>189155040
Va11ha11a
May Club

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>>189155040
Real Lives. Embrace the pain, Anon.

>>189156248
But what if he really does shoot himself? He can't quite do placebo Russian Roulette alone, so that's out of question. And I don't want anon to kill himself.

>>189155914
One of the best ways to make a decision is to flip a coin, and instead of just doing what the coin says, see whether you feel justified or want to try and flip again.

Russian Roulette is basically the same thing, with the question being "should I live or die"?

>>189156835
You can flip the coin again or put it away. Picking a bullet out is a lot messier. Unless it exists the skull, of course.

>>189156691
>And I don't want anon to kill himself.
It's not about what you want, it's about what anon wants, and sometimes that's a question best answered with a gun to one's head.

>>189155040
Play The Dishwasher: Vampire Smile and blast some violently cathartic music of your choice.

>>189156691
>I don't want anon to kill himself.
1-3 anons somewhere most likely killed themselves when you were typing this.

>>189158321
Out of pure contrarianism.

You will give me a decision making system that does not make anons safe and prosperous... and I will formulize decision making.

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>>189140723

>dying to Necromemester

COME ON HEALER

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>>189149537
> i feel like he is a double nigger
Yeah, he's kind of a dick.

3030 Deathwar Redux is it any good? It reminded me a bit of Halcyon 6 but I did not like that one bit.

>>189156691
>2017
>not committing sudoku

kys

>>189162417
We are not the RPG Codex, mate.

>>189155040
Comedy Night

It's been working for me

>>189147487
Well, how about something mechanically simple then?

Make it a new feat, call it whatever.
5% to movement speed for each point of agility above 5.

>>189163123
Wouldn't it be better to honestly and straightforwardly tell styg the pacing is too slow instead of dancing around the issue with these weird workarounds?

>>189163287
I don't think there is anything weird about agility potentially affecting speed, to be honest. Plenty of games do it.

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>>189163123
Or people could stop bitching about the movement speed since it's not that bad and making it significantly faster would ruin several aspects of the game.

Styg already adressed this.

>>189163417
Agility already does that, bonus movement points from AGI increase movement speed in real time.

>>189163905
I don't think a 50% boost for a 16 agility build is THAT game altering. But hey, whatever. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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>>189163905
>Agility already does that, bonus movement points from AGI increase movement speed in real time.
got proofs?

>>189149640
>betray
Not feeding him a woman is betrayal?

https://nicalis.com/games
Looks like they purged their Knytty past.

>>189165089
quick rundown on this wolf guy?

>>189165351
I didn't play the game, but from what I watched he wants to eat the chicken lady for some reason. If you don't give him the key to her room he steals your stuff next chapter.

>>189165351
He is actually a dog man.

>>189165302
What does Nicalis have to do with Knytt?

>huge dog killed a fucking elk all by himself
Wish I had seen the entire fight, I was only able to see the final blow. There was no bear trap, either.

There's an Underrail thread on /v/ and I can't bump it because I have to play video games with my gf.

>first world problems

>>189169294
Whoa, your gf is more important than an Underrail thread? What is this normie shit? And why do I feel a pang of jealousy?

Is Underrails skill system the best such a system can get or can it be improved?

>>189170137
Everything can be improved, that's what sequels are for. Gotta make that back to level 1 beam worth it.

>>189156589
Youd think all that athletic ability would prevent this

>>189170304
>meet Six at Hexagon
>ask him why I'm level 1 now

>"you don't need to know that"

>>189167489
>>189167653
:thinking:

>>189170453
Let's give the guy the benefit of the doubt, I think he'd go with the "I don't know why, but I know that this is something that needed to happen."

Whatever happened to Chaos Chronicles

so uh
does anyone still give a single shit about grimwah?

>>189170956
I gave one a moment ago.

>>189170956
Your question made me check if the manual is ready. Spoiler: It isn't.

Does that count?

>>189171434
nice

I'm building the system for a tactical game in my head because I feel like it even though I'll never have the experience to make such a game. My current idea is that characters have attributes, proficiencies, skills, and perks.
Attributes are their physical and mental traits, can be improved by cybernetics (to degrees that make unaugmented characters irrelevant late game) and some perks. Perks are complex skills characters can learn, like center axis relock with handguns or silent takedowns in CQB. Skills are simple things your character can pick up every 5 points you increase a proficiency, stuff like double tapping a semi auto or slam firing a pump action.
In short, an excessively complicated system that does nothing better than any other system out there except for making autists happy.

>>189171669
Dammit I forgot proficiencies. Those would be your skill in classes of weapons and actions. Shotguns, handguns, hand-to-hand, hacking, drones, etc. That post was also a lot less organized than I thought it would be. Each proficiency has its entire list of skills to pick from.

>>189171669
Your stupid project sunk /indie/ to the last page, are you happy?

>>189171669
>>189171849
Too much talk. I've seen that again and again.

Ideas aren't everything.

>>189176765
That's why I specifically said I'll never have the experience to make it. I'm an idea guy and this will never get off the ground.

>>189176835
So why tell us?

>>189177790
Because I felt like it.

>>189177846
Tell us your top 5 games of that genre

>>189179132
7,62 High Calibre
Silent Storm
Battle Brothers
Jagged Alliance 2 if it didn't crash and bug out too much to play, I should give it another go.
All of the Shadowrun games by Harebrained Schemes

>>189179846
>All of the Shadowrun games by Harebrained Schemes
Hahahaha

>>189171669
>>189179132
>>189179846
What's the name of that absurdly detailed turn based tactical military shooter where you can determine the trajectory of your shots in 3D space? I was too young to appreciate those sorts of games at the time and a lot of them are underappreciated to the point of not being on any "best tactical games of all time" lists.

>>189180835
Supreme Commander? No, wait, that one isn't a shooter.

>>189180835
Can't recall anything like that but I'd like to know. I know 7,62 has bullets simulated in flight rather than flat chance to hit, but that's not turn-based.

>>189181057
It was dumb of me to say turn-based. I don't know whether it's turn based or real time with pause.

>>189181215
7,62 is real time with pause. What do you mean by determine the trajectory specifically? Do you just mean they're simulated in flight, or that you can plot them them down with more detail than just clicking on an enemy?

>>189181361
It's been so long since I saw it discussed that the details are fuzzy but one time on either /k/ or /v/ I saw discussion of an old tactical military game and one of the screenshots showed an actual linetrace interface drawn on top of targets for aiming the trajectory of a shot.

I know /indie/ isn't /findingoldgames/ but you seemed like a guy who'd know so I figured I'd try.

>>189181752
That's one I've never heard of unfortunately. You could try to remember some specific phrases used during the thread or part of the name and search the archive for /k/ and /v/.

>>189181752
Seems you dreamed that game

>>189181752
Could it be Sniper Elite?

>>189180835
that does sound like sniper elite, yeah

>>189186782
Oh boy. That's a spanking.

Cook Serve Delicious 2 is now out
I'm pretty sure I'm the only one here who cares but still

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Okay, I like GoG, but their client GoG galaxy is really bad.

>>189188783
Things GOG Galaxy has going for it:
-Using it doesn't support Valve

>>189189342
That's not even a good reason.

>>189189619
It's the only good reason.

>>189189619
it's a pretty decent reason

I like Dankest Dungeon. What else would I like?

>>189189843
A barbed wire fleshlight

>>189189843
Getting sodomized by a cactus.

>>189189843
new xcom

>>189143048
When are you camping? You should be able to easily handle him with 3 DPs (2dps that deal damage to the front two rows like leper and crusader.) Always focus first on killing the adds first and he's pathetically easy even on the hardest mode.

>>189189843
in terms of aesthetics or gameplay?

>>189190608
Not that guy, but what would you recommend for similar aesthetics?

>>189188410
Do not punish Niko. Encourage Niko to do better.

>>189193938
You can't do better when you had only one shot and you missed it. It's like trying to shoot Keyser Soze. What happens if you miss?

Ok, I need some help with a rimworld mod I cannot for the life of me find.

You could reroll your pawns and select the min skills without hiting random everytime...

>>189196469
EdB Prepare Carefully.
Need a workshop link?

>>189192892
Dark Souls

>>189197324
There's no RNG in Dark Souls, he won't like it.

>>189197436
I am pretty sure RNG isn't the base of DD aesthetics.

>>189197651
DaS doesn't even have the same aesthetics. You need big lines to emulate DD's style. Salt and Sanctuary is closer.

>>189197749
The crutch of DD aesthetics is delving into dungeons and having endless expositions instead of plot.
So pretty close to DaS.

>>189197978
Are we talking about the same thing?
Asthetics means graphisms. So 2D stuff with lame animation, huge contrasts, and a gritty UI.

And stop suggesting Dark Souls to everyone, I'm getting sick of seeing every game compared to Dark Souls the moment it doesn't hold your hand. Once of these days, I'll see Spelunker being compared to Dark Souls.

>>189198139
>Asthetics means graphisms.
Aesthetics is more than graphics.
Otherwise there wouldn't be >a e s t h e t i c meme.
>And stop suggesting Dark Souls to everyone, I'm getting sick of seeing every game compared to Dark Souls the moment it doesn't hold your hand. Once of these days, I'll see Spelunker being compared to Dark Souls.
I hate DaS for le hardcore meme as much as you, but in the context of similar aesthetics it's a pretty spot on recommendation. You even mentioned Salt and Sanctuary which is literally DaS but in 2D.

>>189198630
>Salt and Sanctuary which is literally DaS but in 2D
No, no and no.
Salt and Sanctuary is a piece of shit that has nothing to do with Dark Souls. Stop spreading that meme that every hard game is Dark Souls. Despite supposely hating it as much as I do, you're still doing it.

Just because "lol you die a lot" doesn't mean it's Dark Souls in 2D.

all of the buttons in csd 2 are wrong, this is awful
also this is kinda unpolished for full release

>>189198964
It's crazy that someone can be so willfully ignorant. You'd have to be braindead retarded to not see the very obvious similarities between the Souls series and Salt and Sanctuary. It wears its inspiration on its sleeve and cribs from its predecessor at nearly every opportunity.

>>189199589
>lost the argument
>start calling people retarded
*sigh*
Typical.

>>189198964
>Salt and Sanctuary is a piece of shit that has nothing to do with Dark Souls.
https://blog.us.playstation.com/2016/02/26/friends-foes-and-sellswords-salt-and-sanctuary-multiplayer-detailed/
>We’re working on a game called Salt and Sanctuary, an insanely ambitious platformer that aims to capture the """"Soulslike"""" genre, faithfully reimagine it as a mechanically solid 2D platformer, and explore and develop the interplay of wonderful mechanics and themes like difficulty and danger, stylistic action and complex combat, and diverse, branching, and versatile character building.

Also it being piece of shit, doesn't make it less of a DaS clone, just a bad one.

>>189199750
>it being piece of shit, doesn't make it less of a DaS clone, just a bad one
My point is that it failed at being a DaS clone. It claims to be one to surf on DaS's popularity, but it lacks the fun part of Dark Souls and just comes off as irritating and frustrating, without any of the anti-frustration measures you can find in the Souls games.

It's also objective trash, too, so why would you even suggest it?

>>189199931
You were the one who brought it up in the first place.

>>189200048
I did? Well, I changed my mind, Salt and Sanctuary is a shit game. Don't play it. If you want something close to Darkest Dungeon, play Divinity 2, or Pillars of Eternity.

>>189200224
But DD doesn't have anything in common with any of those, outside of turn-based party combat. In fact Divinity isn't serious enough and too colourful to be any close to DD.
Reread the discussion from >>189190608.

>>189200769
Didn't you said yourself that aesthetic was more than gameplay? Dark Souls is just about one schizophrenic asshole walking around and killing innocent people while thinking he's saving them.
The guy who liked DD obviously wants a game with an entire team of losers to torture. Maybe Phantom Brave would be up his alley.

"it's a ____ clone" is a red flag that a poster is full of shit

Unless it's actually super close to the original, but that's exceedingly rare for how much cries about clones come up

>>189200962
>"it's a ____ clone" is a red flag that a poster is full of shit
Also applies to :
- reviewers,
- Steam curators,
- video games "journalists" (lol),
- Youtube comments,
- everyone in general.

It also applies to "it's a mix between _____ and ______."

A post made in response to a discussion without actually replying to anyone participating in the discussion is a red flag that a poster is full of shit.

The irony in the post above mine is amusing.

>>189190608
Gameplay. Sorry for the late answer.

>>189200962
>>189201215
>durr people are trying to make relations to an obscure game with things people have heard of

>>189200962
>the devs themsleves call it a clone
>there is a meme video of some DaS-fag explaining the game while inserting "soulslike" in every other sentence
>this means it's not a clone
Excellent logic.

>>189201768
So yeah. Pillars of Eternity, Divinity 2, most games where you have a team to command. Maybe even OFF.

>>189201768
A grimdark themed slot machine?

Been playing Consortium, I'm a bit annoyed that it's not much shooting and mostly talking, especially since conversations are bugged.
I hoped for something like Star Trek Elite Force, a near little FPS with some original ideas.

>>189201768
Have you played Lisa?

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Immortal Redneck is pretty fun.

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>tfw this is F2P and I just found out
why didnt you tell me /indie/

>>189203461
Oh yeah that game. Don't even remember the game's name, but I thought it was pretty cute.

>>189203396
Has it got anything over other the games in the genre, like Ziggurat, Tower of Guns, and Paranautical Activity?

>>189203757
It's actually good.

>>189204527
How so?

>>189204791
I don't know. I just saw Paranautical Activity in your post and it instantly pissed me off.

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>>189201768
hee hee

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>>189203757
IMO, no. But it's still fun.
>You get a set of weapons (3 default)
>Run through the Temple, get money and kill shit
>If you run out of ammo, you can chuck your gun, pick it back up, and chuck it again as need be
>When you die/clear the Pyramid, you get to spend all your Mone at the Tree and the Vendor
>Tree is like the Manor from Rogue Legacy
>Vendor, once you unlock him, houses all your Blueprints (equipable medallions, 1 per run) and a few other goods to tweak your run
>Heavily RNG-centric, Scrolls are your main source of in-run progression, giving you a wide range of boons and curses
>If you get lucky and get something like "You can reject Scrolls" or "More good scrolls" early, you got yourself the makings of a good run
>You can select different classes by aligning yourself to different deities who provide benefits and sometimes drawbacks, the only example I've come across for a drawback being the bull god who puts a hard cap on your jump count at 1. You default at 1 and can find sources of extra jumps, but they're rare cause of how much easier they make the game.
>>189204931
Paranautical Activity has its problems, but it's fun too.

>>189205845
"Fun" is completely objective. A game can be bland, tasteless, or even frustrating while being fun (COUGH COUGH Timeshift COUGH COUGH).

In Paranautical Activity, it's more a case of "devs are fucking retarded and oblivious to all criticism".

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>>189206089
>being a deliberately contentious twat by saying contrarian shit like "fun is completely objective" almost totally unprovoked
Look guys, it's a person with strong opinions and too much time on his hands.

>>189203624
Princess Remedy 1

>>189206510
>get proven wrong
>resort to personal attacks
Pottery.

>>189206089
>fun is objective
Besides that, you have a fair point. That said, were I not enjoying myself, I'd say it's not a good game. From what I hear, it was notably worse at release.

>>189206801
And it's hard as fuck

>>189206905
Oh, so they improved it? Good to know.

I heard it was complete shit at release and haven't heard of it since. Except for the dev having a meltdown and trying to kill Gave Newell or something.

>>189207015
>kill
That was Paranautical. That is also better, but I was talking about Redneck. Paranautical was taken down when the developer sent death threats to Gabe Newell on Twitter. It was bought and put back on Steam like half a year ago or so with improvements and the like.

>>189207168
So is Paranautical still shit?

And I though Redneck Rampage was a Doom-like, isn't it pretty old?

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>>189207168
Oh also final floor of the first Pyramid. Here's hoping I don't fuck it up.

>>189206917
Is it? I only remember having trouble with either the final boss or that one optional character you can find. It's been a minute though, so I might be wrong.

>>189207303
Immortal Redneck. Redneck Rampage is something else. Paranautical is fun, but judging by your prior statement, you probably would not enjoy it.

>>189207772
I don't like game with shit devs. I already paid enough with Starbound and Stellaris to have lost all confidences in developpers.

>>189208119
He is. Remember when Hatred was announced, and SJWs petitioned to have it removed? Gabe put it back in.

Is DS4Windows the only way to get rumble on PC from a dualshock 4? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PC_games_with_force_feedback_support#First-person_shooters then how come there are games here that support force feedback that came before the xbox 360? wouldn't dualshock 4 work on those too? Are there any indie games that have found a way to support rumble on a dualshock 4?

>>189177790
So I can use it in my game

>>189215612
What type of game are you making?

>>189215882
He's not.

i tried to like immortal Redneck but the gameplay is very unsatisfying so I dropped it fast

How's Expeditions: Viking? Anyone play it?

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>>189216765

I did, it's good and they put up an update yesterday.

How is CCN 2's mutliplayer? I've only done the main story.

>>189215882
Spiritual sequel to Eternal Eyes (2000)

>>189206089
>Timeshift
LOADING SHADERS

>>189203461
>Also decide to try this
>Find the Chest of Jealousy
>Redo the first few areas just to open it
>+1 shot damage
Huh. Anything else I should know about?

Get hyped for Not-FTL
http://rogueambassador.interactivefate.com/

>>189171669
>>189171849
Until you have that character system running* with actual content** and mock battles it's
N O T H I N G
O
T
H
I
N
G

* A spreadsheet is enough for this so any non-prgrammer can make simple prototypes for game systems. Do it, "muh experience" is not a valid excuse.
** Anyone can think of few examples. Filling all the planned systems with meaningful, distinct and interesting choices is different. Then the nextt thing is balancing all your planned mechanics and character progress in a way that creates fun gameplay. If you can do these, you might have a knack for game design.

>>189176765
Too much talk is not a problem. The problem is NOT ENOUGH talk. It's just abstract crap touching the surface. Not a complete, well thought out and implementable idea. Basically the same bullshit marketers shove at your face.

>>189171669
>>189171849

Shouldn't you take discussions like this to /adgd/? They talk just as much shit about idea guys too.

>playing Radiant Historia
>get to the point in the plot where the princess explains just what the ritual actually is
>Stocke starts to object to the ritual
>expect the typical cliche where the JRPG main character strongly yet inarticulately rants against the plot element necessary for saving the world
>instead he acknowledges that the ritual is necessary but also raises a very valid point that the ritual is not a permanent solution and that the world should be trying to fix the root of the problem instead of "continually applying a bandage to a bloody wound".
Why is Stocke is good?

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>page 10

>Darkest Dungeon

Is this likely to work or a dank meme?

https://youtu.be/abudgvoLo1o

I know games aren't supposed to be realistic, but it bothers me when I need to take down six giant trees just to build one house. Whether it's ARK, Rimworld, or even the accursed Minecraft, I always end up cutting down every tree for a meager amount of wood.

Okay, it's balanced by the fact that you grow a tree in a few hours, but still.

>>189233219
Not the best, but it could work. Both MaA and Crusader can attack from multiple positions and not push around the Leper too much like a shuffle team would.

>>189233262
You're right they aren't realistic, but... In real life you would need more wood, more tools, more refining processes, multiple types of wood and other boring stuff.

Consider that in Minecraft you can turn each cubic meter of logs into 4 cubic meters of planks.

>>189235086
What about ARK, then? Every tree gives like 30 units of wood, and you need, what 40 or 60 to build a single wall?

>>189228486
he learned from the best

Speaking of survival games, how's No Man's Sky? I heard it was controversial, but I didn't saw any real complain, just "it's meh".

>>189235665
I don't know what to say about those. Minecraft is easiest to judge because things have a solidly defined and consistent scale, a block is 1m^3. Games like Rimworld or DF (before 3D trees) are rather abstract when it comes to the size of tiles.

But ARK? One could argue that's because it simulates how much of the raw material is wasted in the process of turning it into something useful, but if you want my honest opinion: it's simply bad design. Slow grind is necessary to spread the content and serve as a purpose for multiplayer. You need a group to get anything done within a reasonable timeframe.

>>189236858
It bothers my autism a bit, because given I stripped most of the area around me to build my house, if I wanted to build a real mansion, I would ruin the entire ARK's ecosystem.

I know video games aren't supposed to be realistic, but it bothers me when I'm forced to rely on magical respawn system to get anything done.

>>189236939
It's an evil secret agenda to make you like renewable resources!

>>189237072
Well, I already prefer wood over rocks and metal, so...
Thatch make the best-looking roof, by the way.

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plbs don die

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I don't know if The Phantom Pain is indie or if it has its own general, but I'm having a lot of fun with carboard boxes and the water pistol. More games should includes items like that.

>>189238558
konami is sure as shit not indie
metal gear general is dead right now though so

Darkest Dungeon, I tried to do the Baron mission in the Courtyard and my game keeps crashing after the loading screen, with the message "Darkest.exe has stopped working". I googled it and it seems to be a common problem, but all I could find was people asking about it and no solutions. Am I screwed?

>>189239228
A shame, I really liked The Phantom Pain.
One of the few games where the "joke" items are actually not joke.

Especially the water pistol. You think it's a kid toy? Breaks everything electronic, can be used as distraction, can splash people in the face, and has unlimited ammo.

And don't get me started on the many, many ways you can use a cardboard box.

>>189240440
you finished act 2, right? because konami didn't

>>189241748
I actually don't know.
With freeform games, I tend to just fuck around and never get anything done. Like with San Andreas, when I levelled up all weapons mastery to expert, but never left Los Santos.
I think I unlocked Africa and the old Indian guy, but after that, I just took over outposts and punched people in the face.

>>189241860
oh
uh
do you know about THE WOLBACHIA yet and/or did you fight METAL GEAR

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So sound effects are Styg's kryptonite!
Alright, who will be the brave soul to trudge through an expensive program to become a sound designer and do pro bono work while sleeping under a bridge? With all the suicidal people, college dropouts, and all-around human trash we have here I'm sure someone could do with a new lease on life!

God, I love giving motivational speeches.

>>189242061
I fought the Saelanthropus and I got the Kikongo infection at the base, but the Saelanthropus was destroyed and the infection was controlled, so I guess I'm fine.

>>189242134
>pro bono work while sleeping under a bridge
desu he could live in styg's garage with mac

>spicy sauce is s in all three wok dishes except in the second stage of shrimp/tofu where it's r
pls

>>189246636
Sounds appetizing. What game?

And speaking of food, putting a red berry and a steak in a cooking pot in ARK magically makes them less filling.

>>189248747
cook serve delicious 2
came out yesterday but it's pretty unfinished right now

>>189248912
Mmm, I don't know. Cooking is pretty fun, but a game only centered about food sounds a bit repetitive.

If you have to hunt, scavenge, and grow your food, it may be really fun, through.

>>189248991
>hunt, scavenge and grow your food
You are cute but you dont know a thing about Cook serve delicious. :3

Can Dankest Dungeon be modded to remove the grind and RNG?

>>189249154
It's that game where you take ingredients from a place to another to prepare them, and finally serve to them to clients, no?

>>189249236
But then you've got a 10 minute atmospheric walking game.

IIRC Darkest Dungeon is too hard to mod too much.

Changing skills/trinkets (tweaking numbers, swapping already existing effects, etc): easy

Changing visuals: not really a thing outside lame recolors and real awkward visual reworks that have to conform to the original sprite's shape

Changing anything else: too much of a mess

But I'm years outdated so I'm probably full of shit

That said perhaps it's time someone makes a clone that's uglier but does the gameplay better.

>want to listen to Soul Reaver's audio files
>can't find the DVD
>remember that I used to have it on my old ass cheap Chinese mp3 player some 7 or 8 years ago
>find it in a half destroyed bag in the cellar
>it still turns on, no recharge
>no fucking way
>find a video
>it plays the whole 20 minute thing

Mother of Christ. The chinks must have made this thing to survive the fucking apocalypse.

>>189238558
>posts about metal gear solid 5 in /indie/
Wow.

>>189249959
>But then you've got a 10 minute atmospheric walking game.
That's exactly the point. Remove bullshit, see what remains.

>>189250194
>Remove bullshit, see what remains.
Nothing. That's his point.

>>189249236
Grind and risk managment are literally everything the game is though.

>>189250194
It would be a lot like Megaman, but RPG.

What are some good Diablo clones?

>>189251242
Victor Cran for a more action-oriented version.

Maybe Inquisition or the Van Helsing games, but I found them pretty tough since you're very limited on potions.
If you're into Japanese stuff, Akaneiro is okay, or there's Throne of Darkness. Haven't played that one yet, but apparently it's like Diablo 2 except that you play four characters at once.

>>189251242
Torchlight uno y dos, PoE. Victor Vran is good if you've ever thought "I wish DIablo was Bastion".

>>189242134
Darkwood had such great sound effects I feel spoiled now. Especially firearms.

>>189251376
>Victor Cran
Meant Victor Vran.

If you like goofy stuff, there's Deathspank.
And I forgot Grim Dawn, who's surprisingly good.

>>189251445
Ha, yes, Torchlight. Never got into it for some reason.

>>189251242
Grim Dawn if you liked Titan Quest.

>>189251445
>if you've ever thought "I wish DIablo was Bastion"
Don't know what that means because I never played Bastion. Should I?

>>189252680
Fuck yes. It's one of the few games I played that has a good story AND a nice gameplay.
I often replay it.

>>189236781
It's meh but less meh with recent updates. At this point its up to your personal taste. You'll either but get bored and find it shallow and repetitive or you'll like it and keep playing it.

>>189252898
So it's like most survival games. Do the same thing over and over, slowly improving your situation, until you move to the next map/planet/plan/dimension.

>>189252680
Bastion was one of those "holy shit THIS is what indie games can be" games when it first came out. It's been a long time since then, but it's still an excellent game.
Basically it's made by Supergiant Games and they haven't made a bad title yet, and it earned the hype that surrounded its release.

>>189253049
>THIS is what indie games can be
Kinda bland and carried by a passable art direction?

>>189253049
I played and finished Bastion roughly twenty times. I always saved Zulf.

Actually, I think it's one of the very first game that I bought on Steam.

>>189253096
>I don't like game
k

>>189170304
>Underrail 2 drops
>asks for your Underrail Save as soon as you start a new game
>you don't play as jack, you play as a random schmuck for some reason
>Jack is the final boss, he killed Six and is trying to seize some ultimate bullshit power all to himself to lead a suicide rush to the surface because there might be even more oddities at the surface
>your older save will choose what kind of Jack you'll fight in the end, if he had the faceless medallion you'll also fight against faceless army + protectorate / free dones

>>189253378
I would be fine with that as long as I get to say "You can't be the Invictus, he's taller"

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>thinking of getting Firewatch because I want a comfy walking simulator
>a lot of negative reviews
>all complaining about some DMCA abuse
What the fuck is going on now?

>>189253378
Al Fabet better return in Underrail 2!

>>189254306
DC warehouse is his new home.

>>189254293
I like it. Hell, I even like how, say, "down to Earth" the ending was.

>>189253336
>I don't like that someone else doesn't like game
k

>>189254293
The developers are abusing the digital millennium copyright act for political purposes and should not be supported.

>>189254293
One of the devs is either planning/did send a bunch of DMCA complaints after Pewdiepie because he said 'nigger' onstream a couple days ago.

>>189254363
>tchortists left or got slaughtered
>the faceless went home
>al fabet now controls hollow earth
>sets up a vast trade empire peddling ancient biocorp goods
>hanging rat elevator is restored
>rude rob becomes al's right hand man
>all that traffic fucks up oculus business

>>189254712
k. Good talk. ^_^

>>189254293
https://twitter.com/vanaman/status/906983575337107456

>>189254885
Consider a bleach daquiri.

>>189255010
>all streaming is infringement but devs and pubs allow it
holy shit what

>>189255469
Legally speaking, that's how it is. Which is why we get cases like this.

>>189254808
Bullying Pewshitpie is perfectly legit. I might buy Firewatch just to support them.

>>189256881
>supporting people that abuse DMCA for political reasons just because it's someone you don't like
shit nigga I don't even like pewds either but hot damn the cringe

>>189255646
Which is legit, but how much repurcussion is "he said a word I don't like years after the fact on something unrelated to the work that affiliates us both, remove pls" going to have legally?

>>189257327
>allowing a manchild to make money off YOUR hard work is acceptable, and don't you dare think otherwise or you're getting bullied
Get a real job instead.

>>189257443
Well, that shit certainly wouldn't hold in any sane court because their website has a clause allowing streaming and even monetization of said videos and his twitter post reveals the ulterior motive of that bullshit move.

But none of that matters for youtube. Video(s) get flagged, summary investigation shows flagging is valid/comes from actual copyright holder, account receives copyright strikes and said videos are taken down, at least temporarily.

>>189257502
>implying you dont make money off pewdiepie vids when he's playing your game

>>189257906
>implying a racist faggot who only cater to underage can improve your sales
All pewshitdie does is drag games in the mud for his own profit while yelling like a retarded faggot and trying to force memes. Good riddance, I hope more devs block him.

Oh, and he's racist, that's bad too.

>>189257502
Someone's mad they can't get paid to vidya.

What the fuck guys

>>189257814
Oh yeah I have no doubt Jewtube'll just take it down immediately, my thing is more if anybody plans to actually stand up to the bs, which is unlikely.

>>189258365
Pewshitpie Defense Force. Nothing to see here.

>>189258064
>implying it doesn't improve your sales
Worked in gaming hell for several years, kiddies coming in to buy shit that markiplier or other diet pewdie streamshits played was a relatively common occurrence.
Imagine even moreso when its games without physical copies that are generally cheaper, easier to get, and easier to whip out mommy's credit card for.

>>189258410
>defending developers who abuse DMCA claims because their feelings were hurt

>>189258365
Someone is butthurt because some guy said nigger on stream.

Speaking of Diablo clones, how is this?

>>189258536
Maybe for PUBG or H1Z1, but not for games with no replayability.

>>189258618
So, how does Pewshitpie's dick taste like?

>>189258748
Pretty good.

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>>189258748
hurr durr, meant to post this image

>>189258791
>Maybe for PUBG or H1Z1, but not for games with no replayability.
Maybe you should stop talking when you dont know jack shit about something. Friendly advice.

>>189258917
Solid game but much smaller in scope, in terms of mechanics, than Diablo.

>>189259153
>doesn't want to admit he's wrong
>switch the topic and resort to personal attacks
Typical.

>>189253049
>published by WB
>indie game
Is arkham asylum indie now?

>>189259420
Published doesn't mean developped.

Through if a game is published by another company, is it still indie? I thought "indie" meant self-published?

>>189259529
Yes, self-published is literally what it means, which is obviously what he was getting at. Assuming he's not an idiot, which of course is possible.

>>189259529
Indie means independent. As for the specifics, you'll get as many different answers as there are posters willing to answer the question.

>>189259420
Anything up to and including first party Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft games are indie now, just to spare you the burden of crying "NOT INDIE" like a stupid pedant at every available opportunity. You're welcome.

>>189258791
>not for games with no replayability
Wrong, and even if it weren't, that's the dev's fault for not having anything worth note.

>>189259696
Just wanted to make sure, since /indie/ now means "miscellaneous and general-less games".

>>189253336
>thread about discussing and giving opinions on indie games
>upset that someone gives an opinion on indie game
How about you tell us what's so good about it, champ? The gaming media fellating Bastion during their honeymoon phase with indie games on XBLA is of no real meaning.

>>189259827
The general, like the term, is terribly adulterated. Though that's not necessarily a bad thing, as the original distinction is pretty arbitrary and increasingly fuzzy anyway.

>>189259827
ded game general
except for ded engineering games, which go in /egg/, and ded 4x games, which go in /civ4xg/

>>189259930
>it's 2017 and I need to be told why Bastion is good
Welcome to the world of indie gaming, newfag. Enjoy your stay.

>>189258536
JackSepticTank played an indie game and wholeheartedly recommended it but in the end it only got two sales out of that

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>>189259975
>dead game general
I'm going to have you pay a fine for hurting my feelings.

>>189260167
ded bug general

>>189260112
You're embarrassing yourself

Is it indie if a publisher didn't invest a dime into development?

>>189259975
/egg/ best ded, lemonhulk will rise again

>>189260328
no because then all the assassins creed games would be indie

>>189260328
It's indie if people call it indie.

>>189260112
I've genuinely never seen anything super positive about its actual gameplay.
Just the art direction. Which is nice but you might as well have made a film for likely less effort.

>>189260328
No

>>189260509
the gameplay is solid
not amazing, not mediocre, just solid
solid weapon selection, solid movement, stuff feels appropriately weighty
the biggest value is in the story, the music, and the narrator

>>189260123
Better than nothing, even if I am taking your cartoonishly sauce-less claim at absolute face value.

>>189259696
Whats with the insults, who hurt you?

>>189260509
Are you serious? I posted a lot about how fun the game is, and I talked a lot with another Anon on how good the weapons are.
Did you miss all of that, two threads ago?

>>189260615
I found it kind of bland and wanting personally, but that's a fair description.

>>189260741
>did you miss all of that, two threads ago
that's like four days to a week ago lad I don't trawl the thread at all times

>>189260617
The devs wrote a gamasutra article about it a few months ago. I forgot the name of the game.

>>189260940
>gamasutra
Being played for a fool is less painful than scouring that garbage fire so I will just assume you're correct.

>>189260896
Then please don't say the gameplay is mediocre because you never saw any discussion about it if you're not on the thread 100% of the time. That was a really nice conversation about which weapons were the best to use, and I'm upset with you missing it and then claiming "never saw anything about the gameplay".

>>189260509
The gameplay is simple and not interesting at all until you start activating those god statues. The gameplay is really just a vehicle for the story and art.

>>189261018
Gamasutra is less shitty than Rock Paper Shotgun.
>Sonic Mania came out
>"huuh so in that game you can play a weasel or a rasta"
Fucking video game "journalist". If I wanted shitty jokes, I'd go to /v/.